Hey!
Most of the cooked roms are now using the new Manila version of the threaded sms. And all though I like most of the roms out there, I have a big problem with the new Manila way of writing sms. So...
- How do I go about changing the threaded sms back to the old version?
I.e.: When I click on a received sms on the Messages tab in Manila, I want it to go to the standard Windows threaded sms view.
Cheers!
I'd like this too, the Windows version was clean yet slick.
if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.
MistaRip said:
if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.
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Yes, I know that one. But that doesn't really account for a fix now, does it?
What I'm after is only the sms solution from the old Manila.
My guess is that it's not that a difficult configuration thing (since it's only in the last couple of weeks that the "new sms way" has appeared).
If you try an old version of Manila and view/send sms from there, I think you'll see what I want in terms of functionality...
True the old way is still there, but it'd be nice to revert but to it completely without sacrificing all the other fantastic Manilla improvements.
im also looking for a way to get this to work.
did anyone find anything out?
thanks.
Count me in too....
Me too..
Me three!
Me four!
The new Manila SMS looks good, but is really inferior to the WinMo default in terms of functionality.
Me too. I'd love to use the default threaded SMS of WindowMobile. Becoz the new threaded SMS of new Manila is very slow do appear.
Are there any solutions or registry to fix this matter?
Thanks
Any solution? I'd like old threaded sms back too...
Anyone? Can't someone from the ROM Gurus help?
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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I can donate for your efforts! Can't afford much but atleast for a beer of two, and I'm sure that trere will be more people ready to donate a little for this!
NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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Could you please help me by pointing me in the right direction?
(i.e: where the script is located, and how to edit it)
anything new on the matter?
Did anyone find a solution ?
I posted a solution ages ago, cant even remember where.. ah found it
Basically when you click the sms icon in manila tab it drops back to winmo client,is that what you want?
All it takes is to use an older version of the manila file I think..
Any way as it's a cab it's uninstallable if it doesnt work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189081&d=1243378698
Works great! Thanks a lot, I've been looking for this for hours
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Why are all the kaiser roms with JOINED MMS
I hate the joined MMS/SMS
And no matter what i do I cant get them to seperate
Is there a specific path to take with kaiser roms
on my hermes i could just install a cab i have for SPLIT MMS
it does nothing on my kaiser
**Someone HELP Please**
i have been all through the boards searching for how to fix
but only thing i fund was that Dutty's old rom had split mms
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
tramane said:
OKAY 57 views and no posts
An expert please HELP ??
I like split mms and i like Palm threaded
Niether of which i seem to be able to get on my KAISER
WHAT GIVES?
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Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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tramane, i personally can't help you on this but i do know that Dutty has done this from some of his roms if you want to check there or contact him for some help. If he is able to help you out please post here so others can see what needs to be done.
I too like the split SMS and MMS but ever since i stopped using Dutty's roms i haven't had that and i've learned to deal with it. Although i have a PIM backup that i can only get the MMS from if i have those two split so yeah please let us know.
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read the post above you, it does work, though personally i like them combined.
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Well first of all, most people probably just didn't answer because this question should have been a new thread in the rom DEVELOPMENT forum.
Second, to get split sms/mms you only need to install an older version of archsoft mms, like the one in my cabs folder linked in my signature. Make sure to soft reset immediately before you install the cab.
I never liked palm threaded text messaging, so i can't tell you if it works on wm6.1 roms, but all WM6.1 roms have threaded messaging already.
Both of these answers could have easily been found using the search function on the site.
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No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
tramane said:
No disrespect
But I DID that
Thats what I said i my post
Im no super noob, i been flashing hacking and unlocking for a minute
I just wasnt posting,
But all in all, from what i gather noone has been able to get the palm app working on kaiser, which baffles me. Why would it work on the hermes?
Im assumin becuase the palm and hermes have OMAP processors
And when the mms function checks for available emory to complete the operation it fails and gives an OUT OF MEMORY error
IMHO the palm app kills the wm6.1 on pure speed
ITS MUCH FASTER
But im gonna try again to install arcsoft mms 4.2.8.1 and see if that works
I wasnt quite sure if this belonged in development/hacking or the rom section, So my apologies on location
THANKS for the info!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Well to begin with, i meant it shouldn't be in the rom development, lol, but i think they moved it anyway to software.
I know there was a palm sms/mms app that was used on WM6.0 for the kaiser, but i never used it on WM6.1. I know many people used it cause it threaded the messages. You could try to hunt that down, just make sure you disable threaded messaging in kaisertweaks first just to be safe. Like i said, i've never tried it. If i find the link then i'll hook you up with it in a bit.
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Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
tramane said:
Thanx Scotchua
Hey i installed the new ROMeOS
it has split ms/sms
So i installed the palm threaded and use the palm for texting
And the wm6.1 default for mms
Works so far
There arent any wm6.0 roms left are there?
becuase there are speed enhancements with 6.1 correct?
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Well I'd really assume it's just because everyone is porting stuff from the diamond/xperia/omnia/raphael and all those are only wm6.1.
Also nobody wants to cook something old when there's something new. Plus they did add some enhancements related to screen rotation...mostly it's just the new and shiny thing...i never used wm6.0 much so i don't know.
Quick Question/Request,
I've been searching for about 2 hours or so and cant seem to find the Manila file to replace the message tab press function, I would like it to go into the windows messaging layout, rather then the tf3d HTC messaging layout. I thought someone mentioned it in Our Sexai Energy Rom Cult, so if anyone comes across it please let me know!
-Dave
warri said:
Quick Question/Request,
I've been searching for about 2 hours or so and cant seem to find the Manila file to replace the message tab press function, I would like it to go into the windows messaging layout, rather then the tf3d HTC messaging layout. I thought someone mentioned it in Our Sexai Energy Rom Cult, so if anyone comes across it please let me know!
-Dave
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I don't know the manila file number, but it will be in one of the lua scripts for messaging tab. Most likely it is in one of the embedded scripts of the messaging mode9 file, but could be one of the standalone scripts.
showaco said:
I don't know the manila file number, but it will be in one of the lua scripts for messaging tab. Most likely it is in one of the embedded scripts of the messaging mode9 file, but could be one of the standalone scripts.
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I believe it is this manila file 47dd6acd_manila
i am just not sure how to edit it.
Hi guy,
Did you manage to do what you wanted to? I am looking for the same thing.
If you are using TF3D2 then check the first page of the rhodium manila thread in dev and hacking, 12
Thanks a lot, it works great.
12aon said:
If you are using TF3D2 then check the first page of the rhodium manila thread in dev and hacking, 12
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Sorry for the bump... but could someone point out to me where this is? I've been looking for a way to change the Press Tab Function of the Messages tab to go back to the default WinMo threaded SMS function for a while now. Using Rhodium Manila 2.1
I've been using this forever. It doesn't work in the Sense 2.5 but works great for Sense 2.1. Just unzip and copy the manila file into your Windows folder and restart.
wingman1487 said:
I've been using this forever. It doesn't work in the Sense 2.5 but works great for Sense 2.1. Just unzip and copy the manila file into your Windows folder and restart.
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Thank you so very much. This is why I love XDA. I don't need to ask for much, but when I do, I always get a response with exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again!
AycheDub said:
Thank you so very much. This is why I love XDA. I don't need to ask for much, but when I do, I always get a response with exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again!
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You are very welcome, glad to help.
wingman1487 said:
I've been using this forever. It doesn't work in the Sense 2.5 but works great for Sense 2.1. Just unzip and copy the manila file into your Windows folder and restart.
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Thankyou just a shame it positions landscape sms to the left instead of centralized, will have to find out if can be corrected? Mineute graphic problem would just be nice to have it pukka but way better than the manila sms interface to which didn't capatalize start or after . also very minute reply space.
wingman, can you tell us what to do so that this will work in manila (sense) 2.5 as well?
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wingman, can you tell us what to do so that this will work in manila (sense) 2.5 as well?
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I wish I knew, that would make the 2.5 messaging so much more bearable.
try this: View attachment 09bd4ef2_manila.zip
manoli20 said:
try this: View attachment 279460
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On Sense 2.5 it doesn't work
how can i make my messaging program ALWAYS LOOK like this?
ok im running energy rom 26 feb 2010 21892 and am very happy with it. i have recently found this certain messaging bubble conversation style "look" on my phone. i would like my phone to always OPEN with this look. can ANYONE help me find the setting or possibly use a cab to enable this style of messaging PERMANENTLY?
take a look at the uploaded pic...
I too am on Energy Rom Feb26, how do you get that mode up?
I'm trying to fix the messaging tab at the moment, since I hate that it uses MS messaging from "All Messages", the new message icon and the menu options but HTC messaging from everywhere else. At the moment I'm try to get it to use HTC messaging since the contact lookup as you type appears to be better.
It looks like that is a MS messaging feature, threaded messaging, I can't get it up on mine at all.
You can customise it using the following:
http://www.reinout.info/xda/
Looking at my current style sheets it is in my rom, but it's not using it (hence my MS messaging looks shockingly wm5)
Ahh, this message tab is annoying me, read 101 ways to disable HTC messaging but NOT how to get HTC to link correctly from the message tab.
As for disabling HTC and putting MS messaging, try searching for "Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2"
Hi,
I am a pretty basic user and way back when there was a change to Manilla that i really didn't like, and all newer versions seem to have this one annoying feature that almost kills all newer ROMS for me. It's in the messaging, specifically SMS, where (i believe) if u enter a message thread by clicking the message, there's a centered text box now and the soft keys have changed. Where "send" used to be, now there is "back." I can't tell you how many mssgs i've lost because i accidentilly hit the back button.
I think this happened from one version of Manilla to the next? If so can anyone tell me which version incorporated the change so i can look for the older versions, or if there is a fix out there to get back to simple threaded sms
TIA!
Thing you are describing is feature of manila 2.0 and higher. There is simply solution thanks to user CMYLXGO. Try google for "cmylxgo rhodium sms app disable". Install the cab and next time you tap the message you get the well known windows SMS application
oh awesome! thanks....maybe now i can get into 6.5
Is it possible to create a ROM that contains most of Manila 2.5, but has the HTC Messaging from Manila 2.1?
I like Manila 2.5, but I'm not impressed that HTC has decided to intercept all text messages, and their method doesn't allow other apps (like Remote Tracker) to intercept any..
Disabling 2.5 messaging in 2.5 ROMs doesn't resolve this issue, but maybe that's because the current methods to disable the 2.5 messaging do not address the actual issue of message interception..
Anyone think they can tackle this? The new messaging system has other issues that many people don't like.. (Slowness...) Sure it looks good, but visual appeal can't override the actual ability to function... (or break other features..)
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1
cryst_666 said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1
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Would post this to, but didn't because of... highlight...
Verrigan said:
Is it possible to create a ROM that contains most of Manila 2.5, but has the HTC Messaging from Manila 2.1?
I like Manila 2.5, but I'm not impressed that HTC has decided to intercept all text messages, and their method doesn't allow other apps (like Remote Tracker) to intercept any..
Disabling 2.5 messaging in 2.5 ROMs doesn't resolve this issue, but maybe that's because the current methods to disable the 2.5 messaging do not address the actual issue of message interception..
Anyone think they can tackle this? The new messaging system has other issues that many people don't like.. (Slowness...) Sure it looks good, but visual appeal can't override the actual ability to function... (or break other features..)
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problem solved without sticking to a single rom that doesn't even exists as far as i'm concerned.
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problem solved without sticking to a single rom that doesn't even exists as far as i'm concerned.
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I know, I'm also using that...
But for some people nothing works or is good enough.
cryst_666 said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1
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Did not work for me on latest Shadowline ROM..
As far as I have seen, it doesn't resolve the issue.. It removes HTC Messaging out of the picture just fine, but doesn't fix it to allow other apps to intercept text messages.
Unfortunately, I don't plan on using the ROMs for which it claims to be useful...
koen-ronse said:
I know, I'm also using that...
But for some people nothing works or is good enough.
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Verrigan said:
Did not work for me on latest Shadowline ROM..
As far as I have seen, it doesn't resolve the issue.. It removes HTC Messaging out of the picture just fine, but doesn't fix it to allow other apps to intercept text messages.
Unfortunately, I don't plan on using the ROMs for which it claims to be useful...
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My words are even not cold...
Well.. If HTC didn't hijack all the text messages with the new 2.5 messaging, this wouldn't be an issue..
I don't dislike any of the work ROM developers have done.. (Any of them.. Excellent job, guys!) But most of the ROMs are not what I'm looking for.. (Too bloated mostly) but they build their ROMs the way they want them..
The problem is not the ROMs or the chefs.. It's HTC, for breaking a feature of Windows Mobile by hijacking the messaging service instead of using what was already in Windows Mobile, and breaking other apps that rely on the ability to intercept text messages in the process.
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Well.. If HTC didn't hijack all the text messages with the new 2.5 messaging, this wouldn't be an issue..
I don't dislike any of the work ROM developers have done.. (Any of them.. Excellent job, guys!) But most of the ROMs are not what I'm looking for.. (Too bloated mostly) but they build their ROMs the way they want them..
The problem is not the ROMs or the chefs.. It's HTC, for breaking a feature of Windows Mobile by hijacking the messaging service instead of using what was already in Windows Mobile, and breaking other apps that rely on the ability to intercept text messages in the process.
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And a rom without Manila? Maybe that's something for you...
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And a rom without Manila? Maybe that's something for you...
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Manila 2.1 messaging does not hijack the text messages..
And the only Titanium ROM I liked had HTC Messaging from Manila 2.5 in it.. Go figure.
Verrigan said:
Manila 2.1 messaging does not hijack the text messages..
And the only Titanium ROM I liked had HTC Messaging from Manila 2.5 in it.. Go figure.
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Last advice... "Start to cook"...
koen-ronse said:
Last advice... "Start to cook"...
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Working on that as we speak.. Thanks to BeeGee.
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Working on that as we speak.. Thanks to BeeGee.
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Looking forward to that.
Sense 2.5 simple was not meant for the TD2. I actually cant believe chefs are cooking this into there roms because without SMS functioning as it should im dead in the water and so are many others. I wait sometimes 15 to 20 seconds before i can actually type something when I open a conversation. Without the functionality cell phones were meant to deliver I might as well buy an iPhone.
Unfortunately M2.1 is getting phased out which makes absolutely no sense but thats the mobile world were living in. Honestly I wish there was a line being drawn where functionality wasn't sacrificed to bleeding edge. Hate to say this but my most stable rom thus far has been the stock AT&T ROM which I can t get back
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Sense 2.5 simple was not meant for the TD2. I actually cant believe chefs are cooking this into there roms because without SMS functioning as it should im dead in the water and so are many others. I wait sometimes 15 to 20 seconds before i can actually type something when I open a conversation. Without the functionality cell phones were meant to deliver I might as well buy an iPhone.
Unfortunately M2.1 is getting phased out which makes absolutely no sense but thats the mobile world were living in. Honestly I wish there was a line being drawn where functionality wasn't sacrificed to bleeding edge. Hate to say this but my most stable rom thus far has been the stock AT&T ROM which I can t get back
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I have totaly no probs with messaging. HTC-messaging is disabled with the cab we all know. I send and receive sms like in the "old" roms...
And if you don't feel the need to keep 100's or even 1000's messages, it works perfect. Be honnest... what can you do with all the old messages?
I will give it a go later when im off work. Do you have any bugs from that cab?
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I will give it a go later when im off work. Do you have any bugs from that cab?
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No, does what it has to do, nothing more, nothing less...
Can you get apps like Remote Tracker and Visual Voicemail working? I'll find links for you if you'd like.. Both of these apps rely on the ability to intercept incoming text messages.
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Can you get apps like Remote Tracker and Visual Voicemail working? I'll find links for you if you'd like.. Both of these apps rely on the ability to intercept incoming text messages.
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+1 here too
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/marketing/default.htm
here's a thread about voicemail
http://forum.phonefusion.com/read.php?9,225
Wm6.1 offers threaded sms which has been suppressed by touchwiz. I like the touchwiz black look and font spacing etc while need the threaded style. Is it possible ?
open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...
Aafi-rocks said:
open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...
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I know of this option and have tried it. It doesn't work as touchwiz ignores it. There is a similar option for samsung which once came up during my search but can't find it anymore. Most probably both needs to be tweaked.
Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"
One ques guys how do u find the registry editor?thanks in advance
boogiecornejo said:
Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"
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Thanks but have you tried it ? And yr experience? I think on this and other sites it is said by those who have done it that the sms process becomes extremely slow and there are additional problems as well.
This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe
new2city said:
This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe
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Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz
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Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz
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Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.
new2city said:
Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.
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If the software is always disturbing you and cannot be totally discarded then its not a perfect situation.
Re: alternate solutions, I am still looking for one under wm6.1 as 6.5 is not offered in my country. Unfortunately, there are many ideas but little for wm6.1 anywhere. So cannot call it a satisfactory situation.
Touchwiz for all its fault offer good finger based usage under wm6.1 and as I said it really like the black skin.
So is there any solution which satisfies the above requirements under wm6.1 or should I forget it and wait for 6.5 whenever that happens.
I am in the same boat.
I can upgrade to 6.5 but don't want to.
I have 6.1 and actually like Touch Wiz (more so than tf3d on my htc touch pro).