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OpenGL ES Games

Hi,
I've tried some OpenGL ES games (usually designed for the X51v)...
Those games don't work, I've got a message "untrusted certificate..."
Call of Duty 2 (software version OK) (www.aspyr.com)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (software version OK) (www.ionfx.com)
Yeti 3D Engine (www.sourceitsoftware.com/yeti.html)
Chopper Fight (www.omnigsoft.com)
Solterra (http://www.blacksmithstudios.com/solterra/)
Enigmo (www.aspyr.com)
BUT !!!
Stuntcar Extreme accelerated (X51v version) works with our devices but it's very slow... (about 5 fps)...
Strange thing that this game works... about the speed, I really don't know if it's our driver or the poor 3d chip...
I'll try some others...
I don't know what the error message means... somone has an idea ?

Thanks for the info! im very interesting in diamond games performance as its one of main reasons for me to buy it!
have you tried any games on the playstation emulator FPSECE? or PocketSnes?
Thanks

According to the poor GLBenchmark performances, and Stuntcar Extreme OGLES, it seems to be a poor graphic chipset...
Or maybe a poor driver (libgles_cm.dll) but I bear on the first option...

A 3D Accelerator is all that is needed to play such games with requirements that aren't that much really, they need to be optimised for the diamond, or there is some driver issue, that is all.

Most OpenGL ES games I have tried don't work at all for me, Stuntcar Extreme won't even start either will Solterra and that looks pretty good

i managed to run COD2 in hardware mode, very good frame rame rate too!
so i guess its not about a poor 3d chip but more a software issue
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703

I got Tony Hawk to run with hardware accel!!!the frames are sluggish..maybe needs some tweaking....

Hi ,
wich rom are you using trying those game ?
have you tried ati d3d driver ?
thanx by advance
solterra seems to be freeware , but hard as hell to find ...
i 've seen a great improvement in thps2 with ati d3d .cab ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475493

Hi guizmox
the answer to untrusted ... is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703

ive been able to run COD and THPS. problems are controls... and the device gets quite hot when playing even for five minutes. I wish I could play those games... BUt its just way to inconvenient.

yes ... i agree gameplay is horrible ... but it works !
i m going to buy a bluetooth gamepad

So i ve tested many of those games ...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/games/98674-x50v-x51v-2700g-accelerated-game-list.html
all of them are playable and accelerated , but i steel doesnt find x51v versions of fathammers games solterra and stuntcar ...
if anybody has an idea
info : in chopper fight http://www.omnigsoft.com/products/2005/ChopperFight/ChopperFight.html
the demo comes with two files ... only this one is antialised by our chip "ChopperFight11x_Trial_320x320.exe"
dont know why ...

bench
Usefull toy to bench your device with ati driver
http://www.ims.tuwien.ac.at/~daniel/download/BenchGLES_0_2.zip

hi guizmox !
i finally found stunt car extreme for x51 v but it wouldnt run , why have we far different results .. ??
i m using 2.03 official rom with ati d3d drivers
in fact i ve dl every versions of stunt car i found no one is working ..
excuse me for my poor english ..

Solterra
If anyone is interested I have found Solterra for X51v. Tried it on my Diamond:
.DLL files found in main directory are HSS.DLL and ZLIB1.DLL
The game gave me an "Untrusted" error upon start. Copied and renamed lebgles_cm.dll from Windows directory to ZLib1.dll, replaced original. Same thing.
Downloaded sdkcerts.cab and installed. Ran Solterra. Same thing.
Downloaded lebgles_cl.dll (thanks NuShrike!) wrapper, game starts then quits. (Windows Titlebar changes to Solterra momentarily but nothing is visible.)
Downloaded CUBE 2004 x51v, copied and renamed ZlibCE.dll to Zlib1.dll. Solterra can be seen in Windows Titlebar indefinitely. Let PDA sit for 2 minutes. Nothing happened. Screen unresponsive to stylus. Pressed Home Key, Diamond returned to home screen and Solterra crashed.
I have heard a few debates about whether Solterra is freeware or not. The last time I checked the site was down, and Solterra is essentially abandonware (I heard if you clicked the "BuyNow" button on the homepage, you could download the full game for free for a limited time...) but since the site is gone and no information is available I will refrain from posting the link until someone can prove it is freely distributable. (I don't want to anger the mods and get banned on my first post!)
If anyone has any other ideas to get the game running, please let me know. I'll share my results and help others get the game running too. If you want the files, just prove the game is freeware and ill upload it somewhere and post the link. Thanks!
ROM: aFast 2.03 (b30)
Radio: v1.09.25.23

i m looking for solterra for a long time ... where did you find it ?
Please .....

Micropool 2007 on Diamond

Hi first!
i want to play Micropool 2007 (
http://www.handango.de/servlet/d/micropoolv4.1demosetup.exe?s=8&p=201396&secw=3e2942dd&email=
)on my diamond but it doesn't work. When i start the game a failure window opens. Does anyone here already play the game on his diamond? If yes, then let me know how!
Thanks!
cheers
Daniel

Had the same problem, but it did start once or twice for me, didn't persist with it and uninstalled it.
Anyone know of a Pool/Snooker/Billiards game that is in true VGA ?
I've become such a VGA snob since owning the diamond

I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.

Pool House is also quite a good game

doesn't anyone made to run the game on his diamond? i doesn't have the knowledge to fix my problem because this is my first wm device! I also talked to the developer of the game, but he doesn't have a solution at all! On his Glofiish X650 (also a vga device) the game runs!

leien said:
I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.
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I second that, used to use Micropool on all my other Windows Mobile phones but Virtual Pool does look and play really well on the Diamond
Good find.

Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.

pokevitek said:
Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.
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Which version do you have and how did you made it? I hope you also have a diamond ;-)

Genesis/Mega Drive emulator for Kaiser?

Is there a fully working, full speed Genesis emulator for the Kaiser?
I tried Genesis Plus 0.6. With frameskip on auto, it was way too slow. And it doesn't have any options to remap keys.
I tried PicoDrive 0.52. It was also too slow and it doesn't have any options to enable frameskip. I could remap keys, but up was right, down was left, right was down, and left was up.
Are there any full speed Genesis/Mega Drive emulators for the Kaiser? There were some nearly full speed ones for my ancient Nokia 6620 (150 MHz Arm9, 16 MB RAM), so full speed emulation on the Kaiser (400 MHz Arm9, 128 MB RAM) should be possible.

I have not found even a decent Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, or Nintendo emulator. My iPod Touch has got them all and working great :<<

You won't find any emulators at the moment that are going to be fully smooth (forget about sound) on kaiser. sorry, but that's the way it is.
hopefully incoming version 0.1 of fpsece will let us play games like final fantasy VII with decent framerates. it may be possible, as makers of it have promised to release source code for gfx plugin. maybe, just maybe someone will try to write a dedicated gfx plugin and to utilize 3d hardware in kaisers to give it bit more processing power.
br
bro
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funny thing is, that silly old nokia N70 can play gameboy advance games without sound at almost full speed (frameskip 1), and all of it on ~200 mhz cpu. those who tried playing gba games on kaiser know, that they are not playable at all.

bronx said:
You won't find any emulators at the moment that are going to be fully smooth (forget about sound) on kaiser. sorry, but that's the way it is.
hopefully incoming version 0.1 of fpsece will let us play games like final fantasy VII with decent framerates. it may be possible, as makers of it have promised to release source code for gfx plugin. maybe, just maybe someone will try to write a dedicated gfx plugin and to utilize 3d hardware in kaisers to give it bit more processing power.
br
bro
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funny thing is, that silly old nokia N70 can play gameboy advance games without sound at almost full speed (frameskip 1), and all of it on ~200 mhz cpu. those who tried playing gba games on kaiser know, that they are not playable at all.
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My friend always plays ol` good games (GB, GBA, NINTENDO) with his N95 and they look gorgeus compared to kaiser. I just hate the fact that we don`t have anything matching.

solid nes emulator for kaiser exists
Lokioki said:
I have not found even a decent Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, or Nintendo emulator. My iPod Touch has got them all and working great :<<
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I suggest u guys look for pocket nester. it runs nes roms just fine on kaiser. requires some remapping of keys. I believe it took some googling after trying xda forum links. i located the emulator while looking for kinoma free play here on xda.
cheers
[edit] pocketnester
and morphgear

anmclark23 said:
I suggest u guys look for pocket nester. it runs nes roms just fine on kaiser. requires some remapping of keys. I believe it took some googling after trying xda forum links. i located the emulator while looking for kinoma free play here on xda.
cheers
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It looks like the latest version is 0.7 from 2003 Giving it a try tho, need to source some roms.
Update : Works fine if you don't use the onscreen controls, just maps to the dpad and A=Softkey Left B=IE Button Start=Softkey right Select=SMS button.
The Audio works best upto 22800, 8 bit, with 2 set for frameskip .
Apparently free .NES ROMs here - full commercial games at non-warez site.
PS Sorry to hijack your MegDdrive thread with NES info but I'm all excited I got this working smooth.

seems right
snachez orignally wrote:
It looks like the latest version is 0.7 from 2003 Giving it a try tho, need to source some roms.
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yup, that is the one. simply copy pocketnester app to storage card, transfer your roms, load roms thru program or just setup association with nes roms inside options and double click ur rom
remember ull need to remap, which took a little state diagram for me to get it right.
if u can find your mario 2 it is perfect for ppc since no time limit, four characters, and lots of places when you drop it simply scrolls down. makes sloppy button presses little less upsetting!

morphgear seems to work fine
feanor512 said:
Is there a fully working, full speed Genesis emulator for the Kaiser?
I tried Genesis Plus 0.6. With frameskip on auto, it was way too slow. And it doesn't have any options to remap keys.
I tried PicoDrive 0.52. It was also too slow and it doesn't have any options to enable frameskip. I could remap keys, but up was right, down was left, right was down, and left was up.
Are there any full speed Genesis/Mega Drive emulators for the Kaiser? There were some nearly full speed ones for my ancient Nokia 6620 (150 MHz Arm9, 16 MB RAM), so full speed emulation on the Kaiser (400 MHz Arm9, 128 MB RAM) should be possible.
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download site
download the generator and the emulators, run the files while ppc connected to activesync and computer thru usb, soft reset and proceed with installations, transfer appropriate roms to storage card, goto programs->games->morphgear, switch to whichever file type and load rom
try it

Genesis/Mega Drive emulation is currently broken in Morphgear. It crashes immediately on opening a ROM.

Check out Smart Gear. It emulates Genesis, SNES, NES, Gamegear, and Gameboy. Unfortunately, it's not free.

pocket nester works great for playing nintendo games, i'm playing mike tyson's punch out now, SICK

I use picodrive v0.52 for mega drive, pocketgnuboy v1.20 for gameboy and PocketGBA v060723 for gameboy advance and all run fine with sound, only thing is on picodrive turn the sound sample rate down to about 22050 or less because i've found if set any higher games become quite laggy.

No sound on Kaiser?
I am running Picodrive v0.052 on my TyTyn II and all of the roms run fine, but without sound. I have tried changing the sample rate, disabling Z80 and any other options I can see, but so far had no joy.
Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

HW Accelerated Quake3 Hack

Hey everyone!
I got a bit bored at work today, so I hacked the Windows CE Quake3 port (http://code.google.com/p/q3ce/) so that it's playable with the new accelerated 3d drivers (http://www.htcclassaction.org/).
Someone has probably done this before, but I couldn't find anything on the forums, so I thought I'd might as well release it. I basically just changed the import segment so that the (seemingly) unused import of "glClipPlanex", which isn't included in the system-provided libGLES_CM.dll, got changed to the equally-long string "glMatrixMode". This allows the game to run, and while it's still pretty slow, it's much faster than the software renderer.
To run q3ce in hardware 3d, simply remove the libGLES_CM.dll file in your q3ce directory, and run q3ce.exe.
Cheers!

When I download the code from Google, the zip file errors when trying to unpack it. Did you have to do anything out of the ordinary to get it to work?
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Nevermind, I'm a sooper noob.

i get "the file q3ce cannot be opened eather it is not signed with a trusted cert or one of its componets can not be found. i am useing the ommina driver.

What version of Quake 3 do I need to buy? Quake III Arena?

Yes, you need Quake 3 Arena to run the game. The q3ce package contains instructions on how to convert and install the game to your windows mobile.
@josefcrist:
Does the original q3ce executable work if you follow the instructions on how to run it without hardware acceleration? I might have to make a special fix for the omnia driver, it probably looks a bit different... Give me a few hours and I'll try getting it to work with that driver. Didn't even know it existed

Thank you ever so much. Will try this on my Diamond (which uses the same chipset albeit with more memory assigned to it).
EDIT: Strange...after the bootconsole part, it just goes back to the homescreen (I disabled TF3D because Q3ce is a huge mem. hog).
Anyway, I'm very grateful for your effort, and I'm sure many Diam users would be.

@josefcrist:
Hmm, it looks like the omnia drivers is only a D3D driver, while Quake 3 uses OpenGL... So with both the HTCCA driver AND the Omnia driver installed you can use OpenGL ES applications, while still having the better D3D performance that the Omnia driver seems to promise.
@nuuke1:
Yeah, I really want one of those, the much higher resolution display is just so sexy! If you can send me all the DLL files (could be one or two) called libgles in your Windows directory on the diamond, I'll see what I can do about it.

erim said:
@josefcrist:
Hmm, it looks like the omnia drivers is only a D3D driver, while Quake 3 uses OpenGL... So with both the HTCCA driver AND the Omnia driver installed you can use OpenGL ES applications, while still having the better D3D performance that the Omnia driver seems to promise.
@nuuke1:
Yeah, I really want one of those, the much higher resolution display is just so sexy! If you can send me all the DLL files (could be one or two) called libgles in your Windows directory on the diamond, I'll see what I can do about it.
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It looks sexy alright, with the VGA too, but I'd wait for some of HTCs newer announcements in about 20 days at the MWC09, and since HTC has partnered with nVidia, we may even see Tegra *faints on the spot out of excitement*.
Sure thing with the dlls .
EDIT: Here we go. Hmm, I think one of the libgles files is hidden, the cm one.

Hmm, this is a bit odd... The original q3ce.exe seems to be linked to exactly your libgles_cl.dll. All the imports line up perfectly. Could you try copying your ligbles_cl.dll to the q3ce dir, and rename it to libgles_cm.dll?
It could also be worth to try the same with the libgles_mn.dll, as they both seem like good candidates. Good luck!

Whoops I forgot to mention that Q3ce already works with h/w acceleration but only 7 or 8 fps. It must be able to work better than that, methinks.
Anyhow just trying what you said (with original Q3ce.exe, other one doesn't work this time as well) AND...
OK the FPS is on average around 9/10 fps hehe. It's an improvement though!
EDIT: Is it possible to make it play in QVGA, as it's currently set to play at the resolution of that particular device. That would be sterling!

I get around that framerate too... There's definitely room for improvements. GLBenchmark runs pretty fast, so one would think that quake 3 would too...
I'll see if I can get q3ce to compile. With a bit of luck I might be able to do some optimizations and fixes. Would be fun to have a more playable q3 port for these phones.

Whatever happened to getting Quake 3 Arena to work smoothly?

well depends on what you call smooth, i can run quake 3 at about 9-15 fps, with customized config and a special ram setup+exe that i found for the dellaxim and surprisingly it worked for the kaiser, you do need a mix of drivers and a special rom if you will, almost none of the newer roms works with the d3d drivers

I would just give up on trying to get Quake 3 running on the Kaiser. The Kaiser obviously isn't as powerful as advertised, and Quake 3 is never gonna be playable.
For this reason I'm getting a nokia n82 (it's like a copy of the N95 except with xenon flash, better camera, candybar style). It'l play quake 3 at about 30fps with full graphics and detail. I'll also be able to play SNES and GBA. I really can't wait to get it!

mikeeey said:
For this reason I'm getting a nokia n82 (it's like a copy of the N95 except with xenon flash, better camera, candybar style). It'l play quake 3 at about 30fps with full graphics and detail. I'll also be able to play SNES and GBA. I really can't wait to get it!
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some need a gps device with pda functions and a phone.. others, a gaming machine. want the first? get an winmo! want games? get an iphone dude

Does anyone have a working copy of everything needed to get Quake 3 working? Minus the Quake 3 files itself of course. Instructions on how to get .wad files there would be great too.
Some reason, I tried Quake3, but it just closes when it tries to start up.

I finally got Quake3 working with 3D acceleration. These damn applications don't make it easy getting it working. The main problem was getting the .pk3 file correctly made.
Anyway, it runs at 4-5 fps, and textures are missing. Mainly, the textures on the weapons.
Quake 3 was ported finally on the Android, and I'm going to give it a try on the Kaiser. Going to see which is better, Quake 3 for WinMO or Android. So far, nearly everything I run on Android is faster, such as emulators for Nes, Genesis, and SNES.

I know this is my third post, but I got Quake 3 working on the Android running on the Kaiser. I have a post about it, with a video showing it working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5791339#post5791339

Q3CE Quake 3 for X1 with 3D Acceleration

hi there,
i managed to run quake 3 but WITHOUT 3D opengl acceleration.
anyone suceeded running it with accel.?

Was it playable?

yes about 5 fps. but hardware accelerated is about 30 fps!

Can you give us details?

The Xperia runs most optimized movies at 20-22 fps, so I don't think we'll be able to run Quake III at a usable framerate anytime soon.

Could you make a guide of what to install and in what order etc? Maybe upload some files so other could do it?
Obviously dont post any game files or links to game files as this would contravene the anti-warez rules, but perhaps any custom config files if there are any.

vinokirk said:
Could you make a guide of what to install and in what order etc? Maybe upload some files so other could do it?
Obviously dont post any game files or links to game files as this would contravene the anti-warez rules, but perhaps any custom config files if there are any.
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I'd also like this.
Thanks.

ask not what people can link to for you but what you can google for them
http://www.google.dk/search?source=ig&hl=da&rlz=&q=pocketpc+quake3&btnG=Google-søgning&aq=o

got 5 to 15 fps on mine but this is the accelerated version. non accelerated version run at 1/5 fps ....and the reality is that you have more than 5 fps even if 5 is displayed... cf the diamond thread.

Can you post the configuration file or what files did you modify?
I tried it on my X1 and it just exits without errors after it ries to load a map. Also, it wasn't fullscreen.

Any help with configuration?

Here my config file.
menu are NOT in fullscreen but the game is in full screen
you can change the invert mouse configuration but don't change anything else.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Tylwith said:
Here my config file.
menu are NOT in fullscreen but the game is in full screen
you can change the invert mouse configuration but don't change anything else.
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is this with acceleration? which files do you have in q3 root dir?

Ok, it worked, even in landscape if i start q3ce while the keyboard is out. In this case, the menu is messed up, but you are able to guess where to press.
It's running at 4-5 fps with low graphics, I think. Anyway, thanks for the config file! Maybe someday we'll have a better optimized quake.

dont forget that q3ce has been program to run on intel 2700g so it's not optimize for our qualcomm with ati graphics

The conversion isn't working properly for me.
After the pakconvert I end up with a 123mb pak0 file (correct according to the installation manual). the 123mb file can't be manipulated though, I get errors when trying to copy, zip or do whatever with the file (so I deleted it.)
Anyone encountered this?

Alright, now I've gotten the convert to work, but my X1 keeps telling me that the execute file isn't a valid ppc application!
I've got the original Q3A files, who can send me (/point me towards) the proper PPC files (the non-illegal ones)? I think mine are broken ^_^ (googled).
Thanks!

you have to remove the libgl.dll and sometime have to softreset for the program to lauch

Strange thing is, it sais that the executable file doesn't work on my x1! I get the error that it's not a ppc file. And yes, I downloaded the PPC files.