I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance
what the hell are you talking about?
You automatically get all emails from the account you registered your g1 with pushed to your device if u did not manually disable it in settings. Via thhe mentioned G(oogle)Mail application!
You can also use the suppiled email app that comes pre installed on the phone. Works with all the major emails except those from an exchange server.
That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant
Proxin said:
I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance
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You do have an exchange account? POP3/web mail can't be pushed
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
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yes they are...
Proxin said:
That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.
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The GMail client does not "check" the source email, it uses a proprietary version of IMAP IDLE (push) technology. It is indeed pushed to your phone, when "Sync" is enabled. However, K9 and the stock email app do not provide IMAP IDLE support at this time, so there is no way to set that up. K9 has it on the To-Do list. I don't know about you, but the instant my account that is set up with the Gmail client on the phone gets an email - my phone notifies me, sometimes it is faster then a desktop client. And, I assure you that it is not constantly sending out requests checking in for mail on the server, that would be poor coding on Google's part and waste a lot of their resources.
So, to answer your concerns directly.
The GMail client IS what is referred to as "Push" email.
The K9 and stock Email clients are currently not capable of "Push" email.
bassbox said:
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant
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How about doing some reading before sticking your foot further into your throat.
IMAP IDLE - how it works.
It is very efficient.
"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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You're still looking for a clue, almost getting there
In case of push mail your phone does NOT poll for new mails: The mailserver will notify your phone when new mail is available. Yes your phone sends an idle command, but nothing happens after that: The connection is just left open and when there is new mail the server will send it.
bassbox said:
"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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I think you are grasping the concept, but the semantics are lost on you.
It works like this:
1. Client connects to server, does it's initial check-in, and handles new requests.
2. Client sends IDLE command to server, telling the server that it is still active, but not actively sending requests.
3. Client sits IDLE (no more data is transmitted from client to server unless an action takes place on the CLIENT requiring transmission - ie, an email is sent).
4. Server receives a new message.
5. Server sends a packet to the Client (knowing where it is located based on the open - yet IDLE connection).
6. Client responds to the packet and is subsequently transmitted the message.
See how many times I used the word IDLE - get the picture? As long as you know what IDLE means, you will understand how efficient this is. Here is a quote from that page I posted a link to:
Phone. For older phones there could be an issue of increased battery usage due to holding the connection open. This is unlikely to be a problem on a modern phone.
Another practical problem is that current phone networking technology will lose IP network connectivity from time to time, and this will need to be automatically re-established, and the IMAP connection re-established if this is lost due to a long network failure.
In summary, the overall IMAP IDLE architecture has good performance.
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Whoo HOO! Another GIRL on the forum! Go ZEE ZEE! And, she's CUTE, too!
Anyway, back to the subject at hand.
Proxin - I believe (although I could be wrong) what is going on is that you don't have the Gmail as your primary mail account - the one that everyone sends email to.
I only lately began to use Gmail. So, I have three email addresses that are set to forward to the Gmail account. The time it takes for these email to be forwarded and received by Gmail is the only lag I experience at all.
If you are using Gmail's "fetcher" feature to fetch email from other accounts... I have seen up to 30 minutes before each "fetch." So, it can take awhile. In which case I suggest that you go to any primary accounts that you have and set them to forward your email to your Google account and see if that decreases the delay.
Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.
B-Eazy said:
Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.
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Touchdown rocks, and is worth the money.
Even the Exchange support in the upcoming cupcake is lame, as ig works with a lame email client.
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Has anyone tried to setup push e-mail on the Diamond? How does it affect the battery life?
Thanks!
turt said:
Has anyone tried to setup push e-mail on the Diamond? How does it affect the battery life?
Thanks!
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Yes, I do push e-mail everyday (using Edge).
Fully charged Diamond last for 9.5 hrs for normally usage + pushmail.
It is only around 2/3 usage time for my Touch Elf.
Ouch... What do you call "normal usage"?
How many e-mails do you receive daily? Do you retrieve your e-mails as soon as they are on server or did you configure an "x minutes" check?
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Ouch... What do you call "normal usage"?
How many e-mails do you receive daily? Do you retrieve your e-mails as soon as they are on server or did you configure an "x minutes" check?
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i have around 50-100 emails daily. poor me.
I have Exchange 2007 mailbox for company, it is pushmail and i got as soon as they are arriving on server. Simultaneously, I have another IMAP4 mailbox for my personal, i check it every 10 mins.
Same settings also apply to my previous Touch Elf, which have 1/3 longer running time for a fully charged battery.
OK I see...
I noticed on the HTC website that the specs for standby time are:
- Up to 396 hours for WCDMA
- Up to 285 hours for GSM
EDGE is GSM, so maybe that's the reason why it sucks the battery so much?
These numbers seem strange, that would mean we can expect a better battery life on 3G networks... I hope it's true!
Keep in mind after the first connection Windows mobile 6 doesn't close the connection. Then the battery life down very fast
Sorry I very newbie in push email... Is it necessary to install anything in the diamond to start receiving push email?
Is there any way to receive real push email from imap4 accounts beside forcing the diamond check the mail box every time?
Fabio Miyauchi said:
Sorry I very newbie in push email... Is it necessary to install anything in the diamond to start receiving push email?
Is there any way to receive real push email from imap4 accounts beside forcing the diamond check the mail box every time?
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Hi,
You can try emoze (emoze.com) it is free and you'll have what you need.
You can also try seven (seven.com) witch is the same.
mail2web gmail
Hi
I'm getting gmail pushed through mail2web.
Anyone know how I can get just my inbox and not all the folders and emails ? There's no way to set up a filter for just the inbox --> forward emails.
thanks.
@feridoun
I'm using mail2web as well, however I don't let my email be pushed or forwarded to mail2web. I'm having mail2web set-up to acquire the e-mails from my other accounts. And I only receive the inbox items. Maybe you can adjust something there to just get what you wish for?
akito said:
@feridoun
I'm using mail2web as well, however I don't let my email be pushed or forwarded to mail2web. I'm having mail2web set-up to acquire the e-mails from my other accounts. And I only receive the inbox items. Maybe you can adjust something there to just get what you wish for?
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Allowing mail2web to aggregate emails would work, but the trouble is, it uses IMAP and of course that mean it pulls emails from Gmail on a timed basis. If mail2web is using IMAP, I may as well set up a direct account on the phone to do just that.
The benefit of forwarding gmail is that mails would arrive almost instantaneously to mail2web and then be pushed to the phone.
Unfortunately in the case of gmail, all email gets forwarded including those that I have filtered out and don't want in my regular inbox, so every few minutes my phone is pinging to let me know I have a new email.
lmr2003 said:
Hi,
You can try emoze (emoze.com) it is free and you'll have what you need.
You can also try seven (seven.com) witch is the same.
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I've been using emoze for the past week or so while I wait for a Blackberry solution and must admit its pretty neat - I'd recommend it to anyone who's looking for a FREE and reliable service - from a corporate perspective if you have an existing Outlook Webmail system then this really is a great interim solution!
I would still like my BlackBerry service back though!
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I've been using emoze for the past week or so while I wait for a Blackberry solution and must admit its pretty neat - I'd recommend it to anyone who's looking for a FREE and reliable service - from a corporate perspective if you have an existing Outlook Webmail system then this really is a great interim solution!
I would still like my BlackBerry service back though!
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Is it possible to ad more accounts in Emoze? And is Emoze pushing HTML emails or TXT..?? This moment i use mobipush.com, but they don't support HTML push...
I'm not sure if emoze can support more than one account at a time in the "free" version??? Dont think so but you should check.
As for HTML or Text - Text only for now I think???
Thats a lot of thinking??? Their website give some good detail....
I use 4smartphone.net - for push email.
My battery needs charging every second day - my phone use is 1 hours calls 50 SMS and surffing 30mins inbetween charges.
I use momail.com and they support push email,
ihave never used that before and i dont know how to set it up in diamond,
any one that can guide me in the right direction?
I've tried to use my mail2web push-mail account on my Diamond, and I have to say that I was surprised that it did not decreased that much the battery longevity.
(compared to my wizard and trinity I used to do push-mail on)
This might be because by default, the settings are not high consuming on the Diamond (no wake-up on email reception, no ring, etc.)
since everything is done with the screen light off, I even think that it reduces more the battery charge to put on the light and check what time it is, than to have the push running in the back ground.
While we're on the subject of emoze, does it work (ie still push) while the phone is in standby?
Yep, it sure does.
I used to have my diamond setup for push and barely got through the day with my battery,
now I upgraded to the newest radio rom and set the mail sync to every 15min.
after this I have about 60% power left after one day.
I used to think push is a must, but honestly, 15min syncs are just fine. no mail cant be that important....
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
Where do you get an exchange account?
CutePinkSox said:
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
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so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
helpme said:
so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
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Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
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This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
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I could do but let me explain I have to email accounts:
1x Hotmail - which is push enabled anyway as per any hotmail account with a little tinkering
1x Googlemail which is my primary email address - I also use google calendar and contacts.
So Emansio is pushing Googlemail and OggSync is syncing Google Calender and contacts... this seems so far a flawless combo with hardly any overheads in terms of memory and CPU.
I am not that familiar with exchange - will exchange cater to all my needs?
I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
marisa4755 said:
I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
Go to windows live on your pc and sign in to your live (hotmail) account, then on the top right hand side there is 'options', at the bottom of that list there is 'more options', under the heading Manage your account, one of the options is 'forward to another email account'
Sergio PC said:
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
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1. It depends, some exchange hosts charge a monthly charge, some like mail2web have both free and charged services. However, you obviously have to pay for the data, just like any other kind of data service. If you are on an unlimited data tariff, this won't worry you.
2. No idea how it works (I don't know how my car works either, just as long as it goes when I turn the key I don't care)!
Hotmail Push email
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
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Basically sign into windows live on your Diamond then goto options choose "sync schedule" then set it to "as items arrive" and volia free push hotmail...
The advantage of doing this will mail2web is that you can get all your mail pushed to you from all your accounts. Saves fiddling about with lots of mail boxes on the device. But I'm sure some people would prefer to keep them separate.
Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Same concern!
Call me dumb, but I use yahoo mail and every time I get a new email it pops up on my email tab, I've set it to check every hour, you can set it for less if you get more emails than me(5 x pink diet patch and 20 x penis extension, both not required). I have a nice unlimited data plan but why would anyone who has a diamond not? If you have a diamond in my opinion you must have an unlimited data plan, otherwise you are just not getting the full benefits of such a beautiful device and should roll back to the awesome old magician.
Yes it can drain battery...
You shoudn't have push email just for the sake of having it...
...yes Emansio always maintains a constant data connection as does push Hotmail... and naturally this will shorten the battery life somewhat in addition to that if you don't have an unlimited data plan then your fooked... but if your out and about and regularly use email for business or personal then push email is for you.
I stop it when I am out shopping etc as there is no need for it but if I need to be contacted easily via email then I activate Emansio.
For those who wan't to find out how it works... cmon guys you have the net and presumably a Diamond with Opera LOL - www.google.com need I say more.
OggSync is great for Google Calendar BTW
This is also new out in beta for those wanting to sync google mail and calendar. Don't know anything about it but might help someone.
http://www.nuevasync.com/
Hi,
Nuevasync looks interesting: Unfortunately it's not supporting email yet.
Emansio: Agree, it's the only push plugin which works fine (e.g. in sleep mode etc). BUT: It's expensive and it ssupports the main email folder only. The meaning of Imap is having the folder structure on the server, so I expect such a tool to inform about every new email in every folder I subscribed to.
According to Emansio support this feature is currently worked on and might be available later in 2008.
Cheers,
Kingshill
CutePinkSox said:
Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
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correct me if I am wrong but Emansio only support push mail but not calanda and contact, right?
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
I've always been under the impression that "push" mail only works with an Exchange Server... and it works well with my business e-mails. I check gmail through IMAP which is an improvement overPOP3, but still needs to poll the server on a schedule.
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
Are you serieus? Why my w810i/k850i/w960i all used pushmail service from Gmail? So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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i'm using Mobipush(.com) with satisfaction.
Ciao
I have windows live set up on ROMeOS and I'm having no problem with push. Sometimes I send CABs to myself so i can get them on my phone and it always happens instantly.
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So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
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If MS didn't like the idea of not using exchange... they wouldn't allow outlook to get mail from pop3/imap. If that's suffering you need to expand your horizons a bit... Sorry for the rant, just tired of anti-MS (not that I'm a big fan). Credit where credit is due.
I didn't read the RFC, but I don't think IMAP supports "push". There is a new proposal for Push-IMAP (P-IMAP) based on IMAP4... Android OS seems to support "push" Gmail and iPhones have some proprietary hooks to get "push" Gmail. So "push" Gmail is out there...
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
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GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push.....
Emoze - www.emoze.com offers not only G'Mail "pushed" but also access to G'Apps too!!!!!
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IMAP IDLE can be called Push-Mail.
The email client can stay in contact with the IMAP server, which tells the client that there is new mail.
Unfortunately, Outlook Mobile does NOT support IMAP IDLE.
ImapPusherService adds this functionality, but it's still an early version...
I'm not satisfied with Xpress email either. I've only added my main Gmail on so far for testing, but I have several more I want to monitor. With my Treo 680 I had no problem with email monitoring. During Mon-Fri daytime I monitor all my accts with thunderbird portable and therefore don't want email being picked up by the phone too. I set up the custom time settings in Xpress to not do this and yet, email still came through. Also it often picks up old mail - mail that was sent several days ago that I'd already read via POP on thunderbird, etc. I don't want to deal with this ridiculousness. I don't need instant Push per se, but at least the ability to set an account to check every five minutes. Would I be able to replace Xpress with Emoze, FlexMail, ProfiMail, or other email apps smoothly? As in replace it on my email tab easily?
I've had no issued with xpress mail. I'm actually participating in their beta program and have hotmail, yahoo and my work lotus notes mail pushing. A lot of times I will get mail on my htc touch pro before my Notes client on my laptop pulls in the mail.
The big ting I'm looking for (for my wifes phone) is a solution that can push contacts and calendar from yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
Lastly I wish one of these solutions would some how include a script or something triggering your VPN client. When I'm away from my desktop I need the connector to reconnect to the work mail server but it can't without me manually starting my vpn client.
Maybe I need to learn how to write a script to not own launch my VPN client but also to click on connect...
For everyone that claims Gmail doesn't offer push, if i connect the first time to it via imap on every latest model (later then w810i) it says 'gmail offers pushmail, activate it on this phone?'... it workes really great (on a SE phone) but MS don't like us to use other clients...
It just sucks, and of there was a real solution for this (a real program instead of ms outlook) it wil be used by almost everyone with wm i quess!
I wanted to throw out some names: I use Seven's Beta for my university (Yale) IMAP push. I also use Funambol to synchronize contacts, tasks, notes, calendar with Outlook.
Alternatives for Push Gmail include Emansio, Emoze, IMAP-pusher service, Mobipush.
I've posted on this issue extensively, so just do a search!
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
Kraize said:
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
Bulldog said:
Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Seriously? Why? I have a yahoo account. And I've been using SEVEN so far, and it gets my mail faster than my mail counter on my yahoo widgets can count.
Afternoon,
I finally got round to setting up my gmail account on my vario 3 and actually using it to send and receive emails etc but there is a small problem...
I have set it up to heck from mail every five minutes automatically....however, it doesnt seem to work...i think i have narrowed it down to power settings...
I have the backlight to go off after 10 secs and teh "turn off device" after 1 minute.
After that minute, the pulse that checks for mail doent run untill i do something with the phone to wake it out of standbye...
Is there a fix available for this other than modify my power settings (which i would prefer not to do)
TIA
Matt
nevawlkalone said:
Is there a fix available for this other than modify my power settings (which i would prefer not to do)
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Not sure I understand fully but if you want it to truely receive push email, then the data connection must be active all the time... and that uses power, lots of it. When you think about it this makes sense because how is the phone going to know when a new email comes in unless it's constantly connected to the internet. I had this setup with my Hotmail account after someone here told me how to do so but reverted back to only checking manually when I wanted it to after I found the battery life fell through the floor. You could make sure other things like bluetooth and wifi are turned off when not being used to maximise a charge but even just having data on all the time makes quite a difference.
from what i understand of push email, it uses a pulse to connect to the net, check for mail and then disconnect again...i have always had my internet connected on my vario and never noticed a increase in battery life when i have spent days without it off (on holiday)
is there not a way to make the 5 minute pulse ignore the screen being turned off?
Window Mobile Push Mail requires an Exchange Server (2003 or 2007 flavor) on the other end.
Without that your just using scheduled pull mail.
The heartbeat/pulse whatever you want to call it does continue to work when the device is in standby if you are using true push mail.
kyphur said:
Window Mobile Push Mail requires an Exchange Server (2003 or 2007 flavor) on the other end.
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Do you know if that includes Hotmail? If its set up right, my Hotmail emails will be received pretty much instantaneously. Maybe they use Exchange Servers - I don't know if these can be configured for HTTP mail? Even when I had that configured though I still didn't get the Com Manager Microsoft Direct Push Icon to jump to life (it's always been grey).
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Do you know if that includes Hotmail? If its set up right, my Hotmail emails will be received pretty much instantaneously. Maybe they use Exchange Servers - I don't know if these can be configured for HTTP mail? Even when I had that configured though I still didn't get the Com Manager Microsoft Direct Push Icon to jump to life (it's always been grey).
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@hotmail and @live use M$ Direct push, if you set it up for " as they arrive " emails. They do this however by keeping your phone constantly connected = kill battery. I had to shut my push email off to get a full 8hrs out of my battery.
Seven Push Email
Hey maybe you can try this little app called Seven from seven systems. It provides free true push email to WinMo environments. You can configure many accounts for example from hotmail, yahoo, gmail and others. There is a beta that is completely free of charge. Ive been using it for quite a while now (WinMo and Symbian) and Im very pleassed with its performance. Check it out here http://www.seven.com/ and go to the beta program section to download it.
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@hotmail and @live use M$ Direct push, if you set it up for " as they arrive " emails. They do this however by keeping your phone constantly connected = kill battery. I had to shut my push email off to get a full 8hrs out of my battery.
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Thats what I've tried in the past and certainly the emails arrive pretty quickly. I don't know if its genuine Push Email or just polling really often though. It also doesn't explain why the Microsoft Push Email icon in Com Manager never does anything other than sit there greyed out.
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Thats what I've tried in the past and certainly the emails arrive pretty quickly. I don't know if its genuine Push Email or just polling really often though. It also doesn't explain why the Microsoft Push Email icon in Com Manager never does anything other than sit there greyed out.
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That highlights when you have a proper exchange account attached for push emial therefore isnt activated when google and hotmail are set up.
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that 5 minute setting is not called "pushmail". it's calles "i'll ddos my mailserver by asking for mails every 5 minutes"
there are several free pushmail provider arround www.mail2web.com is one of them. they offer a completely free exchange 2003 account with active sync for contacts, tasks, calendar and pushmail
I find that the Windows Live 'As items arrive' option works well, though this seems to be pulling at high frequencies to provide the illusion of Push e-mail. I used to experience temperamental service but now it works flawlessly - as well as friends' blackberry devices. I don't have to keep my phone signed in to Messenger which is often advised to maintain a consistent delivery of e-mails.
I set up the Blackberry Connect service (£5/month) with T-Mobile UK but immediately reverted to using Windows Live (which is free given that you have a data connection) as the BB Connect service acts as a middleman, while Windows Live connects directly (or appears to) to your Hotmail inbox. Messages you read or mark as unread will be viewed as read/unread in your mailbox via a PC, folders can be synched and sent items are synchronised. Perfect for me. The only problem is reduced battery life.
For anyone who tried to use Windows Live 'Push' e-mail and found it to be inconsistent, see here: http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/Connection/forums/t/2134.aspx.
I was always wondering about the battery too.
So I did a power drain test...
Hope this link helps!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185860
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
I am currently using Comcast, and was considering going the Mail2Web route, but it seemed too confusing...I know, I'm a moron. (As for "Seven", I've heard it's not yet stable and it severly taxes the battery.) As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
Try seven.com you'll love it.
DrzNight said:
Try seven.com you'll love it.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
WildAce786 said:
LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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Although it is still in a beta stage I don't think it unstable at all and emails at least for me being pushed from gmail come within 2 seconds. I can't disagree that it will take a toll on your battery but that's the price we pay for push email. If anyone has any other suggestions I'd also be glad to know.
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Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
.... As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I would like to keep 3rd party sources as a second option.
First, I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook has the ability to Push E-mail to the TP without severly draining the battery.
Now, if that is not an option, then I would like some clarification on the Mail2Web process.
1) Do I need to register with mail2web first?
2) When you said
go to Activesync and add a server
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, where exactly is Activesync located and how can I go about adding a server to it?
I know I sound like a moron, but that's because in this matter, I am.
another option is EMOZE. Its a good alternative to seven if you just care about emails. it really dont do the contacts too well and calendar not at all. again good app if you just care about getting your gmail emails....
Well, after a lot of searching, I went ahead with steb0ne's idea of using Mail2Web LIVE. So far it works great, especially since I've set all my comcast e-mails to autoforward to the M2W account so I can receive them "instantly" as well.
I do have a few concerns though that maybe a few of you guys can address:
1) How does Direct Push actually work? Does it establish a connection every so often looking for new messages?
2) Generally speaking, how much battery life does it drain during the course of a normal 8-hour day if I keep Direct Push active in the Comm. Manager?
3) How good is M2W at keeping SPAM messages away?
I have used seven, mail2web, and the sprint mobile email app. I prefer mail2web over the others. The sprint app is based on the seven email program, but only allows for one email address.
With the seven program I have noticed a noticeable lag in receiving my email. I have sent an email to the an account, received in on my desktop and still dont get it for up to 10min on my phone. With Mail2web I usually get it on my phone before the computer, also the online system they use will save all of your contacts, calender so you can access it from your phone or computer, as well as have an easy backup if you lose your phone, or do a hard reset.
So if I use seven, which they and Sprint say my TP is not supported, does it still send from my email addy or some seven.com email?
for me its all but useless to just get email if I cant send it.
when i try to set up active sync i put details in , user pass server, there is a field "domain" which i cannot get past unless i put something in it , trying to use mobipush and their directions are to leave domain blank but if i do i cant progress on my screen the next button wont highlight, any ideas