Call Queue - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi Before I purchased my Kaiser i had a Sony Ericsson phone, my old phone gave me a signal when the person I was calling was handling another call. This is not happening with my Kaiser, anyone know of an application that can make this on the Kaiser or can anyone develop one? (I know it still working because I just test it with my old phone)
Thanks

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as far as i know, if you call a person who is busy on another line, my network plays a prerecorded female voice that says:
"The number you have dialed is busy on another line. Please wait."
i had a cheap-ass motorola phone and this is what i heard. after upgrading to the kaiser, i hear the SAME THING, nothing more, nothing less.
what i mean to say is that MAYBE the sony ericsson was doing something propriatory that might not be considered a "standard feature" and therefore the kaiser (and my previous cheap-ass motorola and countless other basic bare bone phones i've used) doesn't include it.
HOWEVER, when I myself am on the phone and someone calls me, the kaiser beeps/rings/vibrates (depending on the sound profile and settings) to indicate i have a call waiting.

ASCIIker said:
as far as i know, if you call a person who is busy on another line, my network plays a prerecorded female voice that says:
"The number you have dialed is busy on another line. Please wait."
i had a cheap-ass motorola phone and this is what i heard. after upgrading to the kaiser, i hear the SAME THING, nothing more, nothing less.
what i mean to say is that MAYBE the sony ericsson was doing something propriatory that might not be considered a "standard feature" and therefore the kaiser (and my previous cheap-ass motorola and countless other basic bare bone phones i've used) doesn't include it.
HOWEVER, when I myself am on the phone and someone calls me, the kaiser beeps/rings/vibrates (depending on the sound profile and settings) to indicate i have a call waiting.
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ASCIIker I Completely understand what your saying, when you call someone that is busy on another line your carrier gives you a message saying that the caller is busy on the other line and to wait, in my carrier it doesn't happen like that, you get the same tone as if the caller its not on another call, so that's why this tools is handy at least with my carrier, In my case it goes like these, it rings and in the middle of the first ring it gives me a tone(and also shows a message saying "caller busy"), with my kaiser it doesn't do it.
Thanks for the reply

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AT&T - Announce Recording

Hey Friends,
How do I program the phone or thru AT&T to announce a recorded message before connecting to my cell phone?
Ex: You call my cell # and hear a brief intro "Welcome to Tvos's Phone, please hold the line until connected". - Once it connects, I answer the
phone.
Is this done thru software or AT&T
tvos
I never heard of a program that does this, although I did hear some carriers playing a song while you waited - that was compltely though the carrier.
It would have to be through the carrier.
Was it a Windows Phone, because I had a software on my Nokia N95 that does that, but it was a little diffrent. You press 1 to stay on the line, press to be transfer, and press 3 to leave a voicemail.
That was all software.
would be cool if this function was not carrier dependent. nice change from ringing to something else
rwcozens said:
would be cool if this function was not carrier dependent. nice change from ringing to something else
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If its software capable of Symbian OS, then it should be capable on Windows OS.
The answer..is answer tones
If you have the att service answer tones, that allow you to choose music instead of a standard ring, then you also have the ability to record up to a 20 sec intro...used to work there....
thanx,
i will look into this with at&t..
tvos
I know Verizon does this. My cousin has Steve Harvey talking about if this is a bill collector, you know I'm not answering. It's funny as hell
they are called "answer tones" which AT&T does supply them with a fee (of course).
Here's the FAQs on them. Should be interesting to see how this works!
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/ringtones-downloads/faq.jsp#what_are_answer_tones
I actually signed up for the service. It's only .99 a month to have the answer tone and to purchase the song clip is $1.99 for the year. You can assign each person a specific tone or whole group.
Now, what I would like to have is a professional voice message w/music when answer machine plays. Anyone know how to perform this feat?
tvos
when the service first rolled out you were able to make a personalized recorded greeting... they have since removed that feature, you can now ONLY use songs/clips, etc that they approve of... yes, very lame...
i could understand that - unfortunately the public has to ruin a good thing... imagine calling my # and hearing a woman moan...
tvos

Call waiting problem in all PPC

When you are calling someone that has another call (Call waiting), your PPC do not show in a notification or beep that the second party is having another line.
This is available on any very basic symbian phone.
Is there a cab to fix that?
Share a solution if you have one..
This is a feature from your carrier.... Call waiting works just fime on my Kaiser
rohanmaini said:
This is a feature from your carrier.... Call waiting works just fime on my Kaiser
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Call waiting works fine on my Kaiser as well.
The carrier here has this option.
This is not the problem though.
The problem is when you call someone up from a PPC and that party has another line.
You should get a beep or a visual notification showing that the person you are calling has another line (my call is waiting on his phone).
So, if someone has a solution for this; please share.
Ok what I think your talking about is when you call someone that is on the phone, you hear a quick beep indicating that they are on the line, correct????
If this is what you are talking about, YES it is carrier specific. For example, when I call my father on Verizon and he is on the phone with someone else, after each ring there is a small beep. This is telling me that he is on the line.
There is nothing you can do to the Tilt to change this, it is carrier specific.
True... and there are also some PBX systems that provide the ring/beep when you are the call waiting. It usually depends on the phone system of the person you're calling.
fireblade63 said:
Call waiting works fine on my Kaiser as well.
The carrier here has this option.
This is not the problem though.
The problem is when you call someone up from a PPC and that party has another line.
You should get a beep or a visual notification showing that the person you are calling has another line (my call is waiting on his phone).
So, if someone has a solution for this; please share.
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I think that is carrier specific too.. if I am calling some someone who is busy on another call, I get a completely diff to ringing tone.. Infact in most cases I get a audio message that the person I am calling is busy on another call and I should wait or call back later... Atleast thats what we have on all major carriers here in India...
ok we know that carrier has to support it, i know t-mobile does...
i used an old nokia to check and it works, it beeps and the whole screen says CALL WAITING, then it starts ringing...
i haven't seen any Windows Mobile touch screen or not that can do this
so its a carrier thing, yes t-mobile supports it.. windows mobile doesnt support it though!!!
so there is no way to make a .cab or something to fix this problem
It's not broken so how can you fix it? It's just not a feature that is offered.
it is not about the carrier. for instance when i had a nokia, when the other party was on the phone i had a beep in my phone, but with the WM devices, you cannot see that you call is waiting.

[Request] Undetecatable Call Blocking

I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.
pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator
I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great
I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.
Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.
I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com
I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?
Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?
Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.
Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...
pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."
It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.
Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.

Blue Ant Q1 with HD2 TMO_US

Well, as the title states, Blue Ant Q1 paired with US HD2: Does it work with US HD2 as reported with other phones? The story is kinda funny and I'll tell it if asked but just main details for now.....
I was speaking with an *irrate* iPhone user who really is considering becoming an ex-iPhone user after introducing him to my HD2. He went into "research mode" and frantically tried to find shortcomings to convince me that I made a mistake in claiming the his device is no longer top dog in the world of hand held "Super Phones". In his rant, he finally had to admit, and I quote, "you're phone is the sh!t, you might make me switch...." long story short.
To his credit, I will admit, He brought up a "stumper" question that I have been trying to find the answer for. IS THERE A BT HEADSET THAT WILL ANNOUNCE INCOMING CALLS AND/OR PLAY CALLER ID RINGTONES WITH HD2 US? I had been trying to get my caller-id's to play through the headset since three phones ago. From what I have recently read, the Blue Ant Q1 announces the incoming caller's phone number in the BT and asks "would you like to answer or decline?" (or something to that degree) then waits for your response, as well as a few very useful voice commands such as "pair device" etc.......
Any one using this headset with HD2 that can shed some light?
If it matters, I am a US Tmobile customer using the new HD2
ROM ver.2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Radio 2.08.50.08_2
OS 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87)
I don't know about the Q1 but I have the Blueant V1 and the US HD2 and it announces for me. Don't see why the Q1 wouldn't either.
Stewartwi said:
I don't know about the Q1 but I have the Blueant V1 and the US HD2 and it announces for me. Don't see why the Q1 wouldn't either.
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Thanks. I read that also, but I believe the Q1 is newer. I don't know that one is better than the other. But at least I have a confirmation from one user.....YOU.
Does it announce the number? Contact name? Caller tone?
Update, Blue Ant just released a T1 Model which looks similar to the Q1. I have only read some specs. One major difference is that it is capable of announcing caller's NAME for incoming calls. Also it touts wind noise cancellation of 20+ miles per hour. I cannot find any pricing on it nor a vendor who offers it as of yet. On their website, Blue Ant shows the V1, Q1 and T1 in this category. I'm liking the Q1 for looks, price (although pricey), function and word-of-mouth (and reviews) ratings. Any additional input will benefit other users who find product in their choices.
UPDATE:::::
Blue Ant Q1 does, in fact, announce incoming calls by phone number while the phone plays the ringer and ringer ID. I just wish it would play my ringer IDs too. But at least I have audible caller id in one form.
Love my BlueAnt Q1
I used the BlueAnt Q1 with my HD2 and my iPhone 3Gs. When I receive and incoming call it does announce the number that is calling me but not the caller name. The BlueAnt also works perfectly and with MSVC. I can easily call people without having to take the phone out of my pocket. Simply press the button and say "Phone command." It will activate the phones built in voice command. Works flawlessly. Also if you update your BlueAnt Q1 with version 8.19 you can also stream music through A2DP which also works really well and sounds better on the HD2 than my iPhone 3Gs.
Side note. I once put my BlueAnt through the washer and dried and after all of that it still works and continues to work to this day with 0 issues. The BA is by far the best Bluetooth headset I have used on a phone. I highly recommend it.
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The BlueAnt also works perfectly and with MSVC. I can easily call people without having to take the phone out of my pocket. Simply press the button and say "Phone command." It will activate the phones built in voice command.
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I can't seem to MSVC to work with mine. Maybe you can give some insight. Is there an instruction posted somewhere?
Latest update is 8.21; I did the update yesterday.
guardm said:
I can't seem to MSVC to work with mine. Maybe you can give some insight. Is there an instruction posted somewhere?
Latest update is 8.21; I did the update yesterday.
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nice thanks for the update on the BlueAnt Q1. I will update the BlueAnt to that version and let you know if I am still able to do it. I have version 8.19 now.
Update:
No problem initiating microsoft voice command with the BlueAnt. Simply press the outside button and say "Phone command" It should tell you that it's initiating the phones built in voice command. If that doesn't work make sure the ROM you are using has it installed and enabled.
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If that doesn't work make sure the ROM you are using has it installed and enabled.
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I'm not sure if MSVC is in my phone. I can't locate it. I am using stock/shipped ROM from TMOUS.
guardm said:
I'm not sure if MSVC is in my phone. I can't locate it. I am using stock/shipped ROM from TMOUS.
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Here is a .cab file for you. credit to NRGZ28
it will install in Settings > Personal. Make sure it's enabled there and then try again.
BTW the firmware update for the Q1 signigicantly improves the sound quality on the device.
AllTheWay said:
Here is a .cab file for you. credit to NRGZ28
it will install in Settings > Personal. Make sure it's enabled there and then try again.
BTW the firmware update for the Q1 signigicantly improves the sound quality on the device.
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Thanks, AllTheWay, and congrats on the upgrade. It helped mine too, but it's getting tired and quirky. I'm looking forward to the release of the T1.
As it turns out, MSVC v1.6.21889 came installed in the stock ROM. I'm not sure how to use it with Q1 though. Maybe I will wait til the T1 is available since I plan on giving it a try.
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As it turns out, MSVC v1.6.21889 came installed in the stock ROM. I'm not sure how to use it with Q1 though. Maybe I will wait til the T1 is available since I plan on giving it a try.
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Like I said pair up your Q1 with your phone. Push the outside button on the Q1. say "Phone command" and MSVC will start. You will hear a beep, then you can say "call (contact name)" or "dial (phone number). you can also say things like "what time is it" "what is my signal strength."
etc.
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Like I said pair up your Q1 with your phone. Push the outside button on the Q1. say "Phone command" and MSVC will start. You will hear a beep, then you can say "call (contact name)" or "dial (phone number). you can also say things like "what time is it" "what is my signal strength."
etc.
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Must be me......does not seem to work. I'll play with it some to see if I need to tweak something.
guardm said:
Must be me......does not seem to work. I'll play with it some to see if I need to tweak something.
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Well, Duh, DUH, Duh on me. I obviously can't read. When you type quotation marks around something, it does mean ........ any how, I pressed the blue ant button and was failing to say "phone command" which is the activation for MSVC, DOH!! Tweak found. Well it was me and not my device. Now the only thing I need to accomplish is getting the ringtones to play into the headset.
Thanks for clearing that part up for me.

outgoing call waiting notification

when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
t_assal said:
when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
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Who says that you should receive a notice as to what the other person is doing when you call ?
t_assal said:
when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call ..
Would appreciate if anyone can be of help here.
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yes, but that doesn't have nothing to do with your phone. It's a provider's (vendor/operator) service. And only some of them support it
Actually @t_assal is correct, he meant if I call a guy who is calling someone else and this guy is activated the call waiting function, I have to get a message "waiting" and then you decide to continue disturbing him or to hang up.
Also @papo is correct that his is an operator thing.
But the problem that the operator send me back this waiting signal, and neither my iPhone nor my Nexus one shows this message, but my 10 years old Nokia show it. the same sim card used in the three phones for this test.
Which means the waiting signal which sent by the operator "maybe only Mr. t_assal's and mine" is not recognized by neither iPhone nor nexus1 (also winmo)
We need a solution
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Actually @t_assal is correct, he meant if I call a guy who is calling someone else and this guy is activated the call waiting function, I have to get a message "waiting" and the you decide to continue disturbing him or to hang up.
Also @papo is correct that his is an operator thing.
But the problem that the operator send me back this waiting signal, and neither my iPhone nor my Nexus one shows this message, but my 10 years old Nokia show it. the same sim card used in the three phones for this test.
Which means the waiting signal which sent by the operator (maybe only mine and t_assal's) is not recognized by iPhone nor nexus 1.
We need a solution
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we need to make clear about this. Just to make post short and spare my brain waves, I supposed (wrongly?) he messed it up and is referring to sms which called party get after finish his call.
That's the service I've wrote about.
It's handy if you are off, turn phone on and receive message from Bob, but it's automated and saying he tried to call and you can hit call back btn. In some countries/operators it's common.
Why would I want a message saying Bill is busy on call, 5 secs after I hear beep beep from the line? But yes that would be phone function and it's possible to handle. It's a network message, nokia is showing them by default (and can't be turned off!!!! :-S )
Make an application showing message such as this is possible and there could be one. Just what the purpose?
Though there is one useful info there. After active call ends, phone will receive network message containing code, which describes reason of ended call: red button by called, caller, lost reception (out of coverage or battery), network error, network busy
If you often make people angry over line and they hang on you, with this cell code you can have an monthly statistic of upset people or whatever you want. aah just cant see any reason to have this eather
run windows\fieldtest.exe and check it there, that's good enough.
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bull****..
The fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. that's what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person hears some indicator beep or someting , and HE desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus aparently) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, nokia, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
sorry for my bad english.
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bullSt.. the fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. thas what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person listen some indicator beep or someting and he desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
satanm said:
sorry to hear ppl who thinks they know it all and says bullSt.. the fact is clear, whe u call some one who has HIS call waiting service active UR phone MUST indicate U the other person call status. thas what call waiting means. usually "call on waiting.." or something, but STILL ringing and the othrer person listen some indicator beep or someting and he desides to take the call or not.
the bug is Iphone 3gs, 4g (and nexus) don't show this message "call waiting" like ALL other phones, in my case, OMNIA II, (with the same SIM card) shows the msg.
please don't coment if u dont know and PLEASE lowercase and regular font. NOOBS.
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Who's the noob? You double posted and no this isn't a fact, I've never had a phone tell me when someone is on a call. There are some carriers that have a tone at the end of the ring to let you know they are on another call..
I think you are confusing your words, your phone should alert you (the person getting the call) that someone is calling you while on another line, it's not the other way..
Provide some info stating other wise that isn't half ass typed like the **** you are posting.
Yes it's true I had this problem since i started using PDA phones only (HTC Mda compact, then HTC Tytn 2 and the HTC HD2), I think problem only exists when using PDA phones because ''call waiting'' function is working on my all other symbian phones like (Samsung, Nokia, .... with symbian)
It might be with Windows mobile phones not sure, but don't know if there is any fixing for this specially for HTC HD2 ..
thanks

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