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HTC Vivid and 4GLTE in New York City

Well they hit the switch on December 1st of this year, been getting a strong LTE signal since then. Been keeping an eye on the data going in and out of this phone. I have noticed that during phone calls the network switches back to “4G“ and when calls end the “LTE“ reappears. Does anyone here maintain an LTE signal during phone calls by any chance?. Or is this just preliminary tower behavior for testing?
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8125Omnimax said:
Well they hit the switch on December 1st of this year, been getting a strong LTE signal since then. Been keeping an eye on the data going in and out of this phone. I have noticed that during phone calls the network switches back to “4G“ and when calls end the “LTE“ reappears. Does anyone here maintain an LTE signal during phone calls by any chance?. Or is this just preliminary tower behavior for testing?
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That's how LTE works on AT&T. When on a phone call it switches back to HSPA+. I think it will always be like this but I'm not 100% positive. Never been an issue for me. It switches back and forth very quickly and I hardly ever use data while I'm on the phone.

Well it seems LTE coverage is expanding in the NYC area as of today. I'm now getting LTE signal in the boroughs. Bronx and Queens to be exact.
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Could be a little faster but I'll take it for now.
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how to unlock sim for vivd at&t ?

youy_2008 said:
how to unlock sim for vivd at&t ?
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You do a search

youy_2008 said:
how to unlock sim for vivd at&t ?
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And you don't hijack an almost 2 year old thread that has nothing to do with what you're asking...
If you go to the "Android Development" subforum it's on the first page...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681145

htcvividnoob said:
And you don't hijack an almost 2 year old thread that has nothing to do with what you're asking...
If you go to the "Android Development" subforum it's on the first page...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681145
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thanks but didn't work like it says with me.
that is what i get when i used that way:
Fat32 init ok
Reading config.dat
Read mccmnc file success
Open CID file fail
Check keycard failed
Process done, reboot device?

youy_2008 said:
thanks but didn't work like it says with me.
that is what i get when i used that way:
Fat32 init ok
Reading config.dat
Read mccmnc file success
Open CID file fail
Check keycard failed
Process done, reboot device?
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Probably not S-Off

bilibox said:
Probably not S-Off
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Thanks
Yeah it isn't S-Off yet and i wish i find something to S-Off it

youy_2008 said:
Thanks
Yeah it isn't S-Off yet and i wish i find something to S-Off it
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This should help:
http://bit.ly/19PpdoE

[Ranting] Sprint should soo switch over to GSM!!

I'm kinda ranting about it right now but I really think Sprint should shift over to being a GSM Network mainly because CDMA is so old and outdated....even T-Mobile is GSM! Haha. Sprint has the ability to control the devices their customers buy and insures that all are bought from Sprint. But I think that if they switched over to GSM and screwed WiMax and went completely 4G LTE, the Sprint network would be so much better...also because I can just pop in any sim card...lol HIT THANKS IF YOU AGREE WITH ME!
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Not going to happen. LTE is the future for now.

TLDR.
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Not gonna happen. Sprint is hemorrhaging money and customers so a total rework to their network isn't gonna happen. Not to mention what would happen existing contract customers with CDMA phones.

What I'm saying is that Sprint slowly shift over, much like Verizon did. So sprint will still support CDMA and GSM until all their customers have then purchased GSM phones on Sprint. But they'll still have to support CDMA for the iPhone.. :/
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DroidModder said:
What I'm saying is that Sprint slowly shift over, much like Verizon did. So sprint will still support CDMA and GSM until all their customers have then purchased GSM phones on Sprint. But they'll still have to support CDMA for the iPhone.. :/
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Hey I just read that, and this is crazy, but Verizon is CDMA, so try next time maybe.

You sure about that....I just talked to a Verizon rep today and he told me that the network is GSM with the exception of the iPhone...I could be wrong. But mind me I was given the Verizon info from a Verizon rep..
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jaszek said:
Hey I just read that, and this is crazy, but Verizon is CDMA, so try next time maybe.
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I also like your reference to "Call Me Maybe" in your post lol
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DroidModder said:
You sure about that....I just talked to a Verizon rep today and he told me that the network is GSM with the exception of the iPhone...I could be wrong. But mind me I was given the Verizon info from a Verizon rep..
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Verizon Wireless uses the CDMA network. The 4G LTE is really close to GSM technology, but it is still considered CDMA. The only GSM Verizon has are their "Global" phones, which run on the CDMA network in the US but have a Sim Card slot to run on GSM networks (once you get the Sim Card)

DroidModder said:
I also like your reference to "Call Me Maybe" in your post lol
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I like your stating of the obvious.

DroidModder said:
I also like your reference to "Call Me Maybe" in your post lol
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You and you're CSR (Customer Service Rep) don't know anything apparently. Verizon is a CDMA network.

Ok, just to correct myself a bit. I see that verizon gives Sim Cards for the 4G LTE phones, ONLY for the 4G to run. Technically if you take that out you can still make calls and text. But still, the LTE runs on a CDMA network, AFAIK.

Oh okay. Thanks for the explanation. I should have known that it couldn't be true. The rep just wanted me to sign lol
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Well I honestly think CDMA is just whack and GSM is the way to go. Also I do know something, but I didn't really care for what Verizons network was etc. Until I spoke with a stupid rep today
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DroidModder said:
Well I honestly think CDMA is just whack and GSM is the way to go. Also I do know something, but I didn't really care for what Verizons network was etc. Until I spoke with a stupid rep today
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If you're the leader/founder of an android related website.....you should already know the difference between CDMA and GSM
CDMA: Code Divisional Multiple Access
GSM: Global Standard (for) Mobile
GSM is used worldwide, with the exception of Sprint, Verizon,and some Prepaid MVNOs like Boost Virgin Mobile and Metro PCS. (Those I just listed all use CDMA technology.)
With the exception of soft hand offs between towers (CDMA is better at this) GSM is a better technology. There is also a similar standard used in parts of Asia called TDMA
TDMA: Time Divisional Multiple Access.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.

Lol know whats whack? Japanese 3G-only network despite using sims in every carrier.

I am the leader but since this is a new group, we only have worked with Sprint devices.....no other.
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jaszek said:
Hey I just read that, and this is crazy, but Verizon is CDMA, so try next time maybe.
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lmfao.

Dudes got rhymes!
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[Q] Would the T-Mobile HTC One work on Wind Mobile in Canada?

If I scavenge around this site and Google hard enough, I can find this question asked a few times, but none have definitive answers. This is a phone that I'm extremely interested in purchasing, as the Sony XPeria Z and Samsung Galaxy S 4 don't have an appeal remotely close to that of the HTC One's. Wind Mobile is a hard carrier to find phones for it seems, but I'd really love to use this phone on my network. Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible? On T-Mobile's website, it states that the UMTS Band IV is 1700/2100, which should be compatible with Wind's 3G network. I would just like to confirm this is true? Normally, I don't like to start new threads to a simple natured question like this, but I'm pretty much desperate to confirm whether or not I can use this phone. That way I'll know whether or not to get excited, or just stick with my S3. Thanks, it's much appreciated.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-Glacial-Silver

Amartier said:
... Since the international and LTE variant lack the AWS 3G band to support Wind, would the T-Mobile version be compatible?...
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Yes.
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wuZheng said:
Yes.
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Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?

inyallan said:
Is this tested? Do you own or know someone that actually tested this?
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Can anyone confirm this?

Was on wind in the past, yea it's hard to find devices for this carrier because it's strictly on AWS for its data and services.
The HTC One might work...but if I recall correctly you need 1700/1900/2100 frequencies for HSPA+ or something.
If it's anything like the original Galaxy Note, you may have to flash a radio or something to make it compatible with wind IF this phone is pentaband. If it isn't, f forget it because no amount of radio flashing will work if it the hardware doesn't support it.
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Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

htc fan89 said:
Yes it will work I'm using it with wind mobile and mines the T-Mobile version
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proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+

DonDizzurp said:
proof? take a pic of your one connected to wind signal
i didnt know it has 1700/2100 for hspa+
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I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900

htc fan89 said:
I'm out of country right now, so once I'm back I will post it. By the way t-mobile uses the same bands as wind mobile, apart from having lte also. Other than that there's no differences...T-mobile one has 1700/2100/850/1900
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t-mobile uses something like 1900 LTE since i think last year.. i didnt know they still use AWS/2100

Sorry if that wasn't clear, but the picture is actually linked to dropbox, if you follow it, you'll see that its a screenshot of my TMo HTC One working with the "WIND Home" carrier ID clearly visible.

Anyone know the Stock ROM/or RUU for WIND Mobile??

GPE and/or DEV Edition work with Sprint?

Anyone know if either or both of these variants will work with Sprint? My Nexus 5 is fully compatible with Sprint as well as the GSM carriers in the US.
Thanks!

Check the bands and see if they match. My gut says they won't be fully compatible with Spark.

Captain_Throwback said:
Check the bands and see if they match. My gut says they won't be fully compatible with Spark.
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I can't find detailed specs on the Sprint website. I'll see what HTC has on theirs.
Thanks!

erikivy said:
Anyone know if either or both of these variants will work with Sprint? My Nexus 5 is fully compatible with Sprint as well as the GSM carriers in the US.
Thanks!
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The Google Play edition is only compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile (it doesn't support CDMA 3G). It says so right on the bottom of the product page. I imagine the unlocked and developer editions are the same.

ahecht said:
The Google Play edition is only compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile (it doesn't support CDMA 3G). It says so right on the bottom of the product page. I imagine the unlocked and developer editions are the same.
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Damn, I didn't scroll down quite far enough. Thanks, man. :good:

erikivy said:
Anyone know if either or both of these variants will work with Sprint? My Nexus 5 is fully compatible with Sprint as well as the GSM carriers in the US.
Thanks!
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atm it wont

ticklemepinks said:
atm it wont
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Are you saying that it might in the future? I guess that means the radios are present, just not accessible?
Oh wait, I think I understand. Much like we had the ability to SIM-unlock the M7, we may be able to do the same with the M8, right?

erikivy said:
Are you saying that it might in the future? I guess that means the radios are present, just not accessible?
Oh wait, I think I understand. Much like we had the ability to SIM-unlock the M7, we may be able to do the same with the M8, right?
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At least on the GPe there aren't CDMA radios (WCDMA is different from CDMA and not what Sprint uses). Sim unlocking won't help.

It's just like the M7 dev edition, it does NOT work on Sprint.

What is the advantage of a the dev edition? From what I can find it is an unlockable bootloader. Does that mean you cannot unlock the bootloader of a regular version?

ticklemepinks said:
atm it wont
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pinks is right ;P
it doesnt support CDMA.
long time no talk pinks.

xadidas4lifex said:
pinks is right ;P
it doesnt support CDMA.
long time no talk pinks.
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Who let Cam in here? lol

Captain_Throwback said:
Who let Cam in here? lol
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im coming back to the HTC side =P
I love my Nexus 5 tho...
Man I need to get back on IRC

Robbie_G said:
What is the advantage of a the dev edition? From what I can find it is an unlockable bootloader. Does that mean you cannot unlock the bootloader of a regular version?
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Yes, the dev edition comes with an unlocked bootloader. This doesn't mean you can't unlock the bootloader of a "regular" version M8. But we'll have to wait for that, and hope your carrier doesn't block it.

i not konw
i do not know you kan ask others

Thanks to everyone for your guidance. I guess I'm going to have to wait for another phone. I was willing to buy the M8 if I could use it on both CDMA and GSM carriers, but it looks like only the Verizon variant has all the necessary hardware. To further prove what you have all said, this is a chart from the AnandTech.com review. There are no GSM radios in the Sprint version at all.
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Why would HTC not put the same radios in both CDMA models? I guess every penny counts when you are trying to keep costs down. This is the comparable chart from the M7.
Can someone confirm that I am reading this right?

gaoyan1234 said:
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Then why post?
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erikivy said:
Thanks to everyone for your guidance. I guess I'm going to have to wait for another phone. I was willing to buy the M8 if I could use it on both CDMA and GSM carriers, but it looks like only the Verizon variant has all the necessary hardware. To further prove what you have all said, this is a chart from the AnandTech.com review. There are no GSM radios in the Sprint version at all.
Why would HTC not put the same radios in both CDMA models? I guess every penny counts when you are trying to keep costs down. This is the comparable chart from the M7.
Can someone confirm that I am reading this right?
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Anandtech is wrong. The Sprint version includes support for GSM in both 2G and HSPA: http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php

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Anandtech is wrong. The Sprint version includes support for GSM in both 2G and HSPA: http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
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Well ****, does that mean all we need is the ability to perform a SIM-unlock like we did on the M7?

erikivy said:
Well ****, does that mean all we need is the ability to perform a SIM-unlock like we did on the M7?
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If you want to use your Sprint M8 on a GSM carrier for 2G and 3G? Yes. If you want to use a GPe or Unlocked M8 on Sprint? No.

ahecht said:
If you want to use your Sprint M8 on a GSM carrier for 2G and 3G? Yes. If you want to use a GPe or Unlocked M8 on Sprint? No.
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Understood. I should have clarified my post. I don't have a problem buying direct from Sprint, and if that's the only way to end up with a phone capable of everything I want, that's probably what I'll end up doing. Thanks!

Looking for app that shows me Band/Pairing #

I know Samsung devices have this and I believe iphones.. not sure.. I dont use iphones...
Unfortuneately, our devices doesnt show this or at least I can not get into this mode... Is there an app that can show us this...
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I have yet to find one.

Lte discovery might be what your lookin for it will show you band not sure about pairing though but still worth looking in to
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Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*

mindblizzard said:
Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*
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Im pretty sure our phones dont show this info.. Ive been in there many times..
Can you show me a screen shot of yours with this info?

Sure, I dont have 4g network overhere

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kei5rio.secretcode&hl=en

I must be blind.. but where does it show the Band and pairing BW?

If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).

fmc000 said:
If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).
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that app your referring to is the same menu as going into *#*#4636#*#*
also, HSPA, LTE, GSM, etc is not the band type, its a network type.. by Band type I mean LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40, which is also another way to describe radio frequency
as you can see in the first pic of my first post, in the Samsung device, it shows Band 4
but my question was for mindblizzard,

I don't think the phone can show that information
Sent from my OnePlusOne

which is why Iam asking around to see if theres an app that can...

gd6noob said:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?

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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.

tofuboi01 said:
I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.
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That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.

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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...

gd6noob said:
Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...
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Fair enough, if you have LTE already, and they are simply deploying a new frequency, you likely won't notice any change, to any of the service. Speeds don't increase between bands, the only reason a carrier deploys a new band, is to fight radio interference from other carriers. Given the cost of a single radio, carriers generally only deploy these new radios in VERY congested areas. Meaning, that in a city that has, say 15 towers, 2-3 of them would actually get the upgrade, in the area that suffers from the most interference. (You have to bear in mind, that a full tower build, requires 6 radios, each radio costing about $18,000 for the radio, another $1000 for the antenna, another $500-1500 for the power supply and cabling. They don't just "upgrade" an entire area, it takes too long to recoup costs)

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That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.
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Ah my mistake, i had in my head he meant to check for bands in the area which he can use with the 'unlocked' frequency mod..for some reason. My total mistake!
However what i meant with what i said when i get my 4g is that i can confirm that the unlock mod will enable band 20 since our OPO is restricted/doesnt support it by default. The band app would be good though!