Wi-Fi tether Infrastructure instead of Ad-Hoc? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have been trying to find a way to enable Wi-Fi tethering from my G1 to my PSP. I have tethered to my Xbox no problem but the PSP cannot see the hotspot when tethering is enabled.
I have learnt that this is because the PSP only uses infrastructure mode for Wi-Fi connections, and Ad-Hoc (which the G1 uses) is only used to connect to other PSP's.
Unfortunatley I don't know too much about the nuts and bolts of Wi-Fi networks so this might not even be possible, but can the G1 run as a Wi-Fi tether in infrastructure mode? If not, why not? im genuinley interested in learning more about this and software development in general.
I imagine the demand for a program to enable this would be pretty high, to be able to have full wi-fi access on your portable gaming systems, no matter where you are would be fantastic. When i had previously asked on another forum about using the G1 to tether my Xbox I was told the connection would be too slow for gaming, that is nonsense, so please don't let that put you off.
Many thanks, and looking forward to your feedback and opinions.

ironnius said:
Hi,
I have been trying to find a way to enable Wi-Fi tethering from my G1 to my PSP. I have tethered to my Xbox no problem but the PSP cannot see the hotspot when tethering is enabled.
I have learnt that this is because the PSP only uses infrastructure mode for Wi-Fi connections, and Ad-Hoc (which the G1 uses) is only used to connect to other PSP's.
Unfortunatley I don't know too much about the nuts and bolts of Wi-Fi networks so this might not even be possible, but can the G1 run as a Wi-Fi tether in infrastructure mode? If not, why not? im genuinley interested in learning more about this and software development in general.
I imagine the demand for a program to enable this would be pretty high, to be able to have full wi-fi access on your portable gaming systems, no matter where you are would be fantastic. When i had previously asked on another forum about using the G1 to tether my Xbox I was told the connection would be too slow for gaming, that is nonsense, so please don't let that put you off.
Many thanks, and looking forward to your feedback and opinions.
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Very true bro, 2mbps is nice and stable for online gaming, i used to do it with my PS3 2 years ago.. I know abit about wifi from long ago, its highly possible if the wifi hardware on the device which will send out a infrastructure ssid is like a routers wifi hardware, the trouble is, i'm sure mobile vendors don't want to let out harware info for software makers to make such software or else other standalone wifi portable devices will decrease in price and mobile phones with wifi would be very open to security attacks and fast to considering wifi speeds, also theres other technical glitches that could make it hard to creat a stable application being that not all mobile networks offer proper subnet masks or dns addresses, the list goes on........!!!!

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full tethering TCP/IP, VPN,...

I have seen a new app, that is not yet available for Android. There is an alpha version for Android , given to some testing people, including me. Till now the alpha only supports usb but Wifi and Bluetooth will follow.
I will report...
PDAnet has been one of the most popular software for Windows Mobile phones and Palm OS phones. It is now ported to the iPhone! The latest version turns your iPhone into a true WiFi router for your computer (MAC or PC), and allows your laptop to go online wirelessly through the 3G network on the iPhone. New! Version 1.50 adds USB support for Windows users.
While there has been quite a few other third party software (iPhoneModem, NetShare etc. and also the built-in OpenSSH) that tether your iPhone through a junky SOCKS proxy solution. PdaNet, on the other hand, is miles ahead! This version is called "PdaNet WiFi Router", it literally is. All you need to do is simply to create an ad-hoc WiFi network on the computer and connect your iPhone to it (instructions). Your computer then goes online automatically. There is no need to specify IP (or any other) settings on either end.
Full list of PdaNet benefits:
* You will get FULL Internet access on the computer! (Instead of only applications that support Socks proxy.) In technical terms, all applications make direct TCP/IP connections to the server. Since there is no proxy involved, that also means less problems and less delays.
* VPN connections are supported on the computer.
* You don't need to configure anything on the computer end whenever you connect PdaNet. No proxy settings, no extra software installation, no messing with static IP assignment, no switching settings back and forth when going back to your home's WiFi router.
* Yes it will connect at 3G speed if your phone has the coverage.Feedback from our users shows pretty fast speed even for the 2G version.
* Supports PC, MAC, Linux or anything (include other PDA/phones) that connects to a WiFi router.
* PdaNet runs in the background so you can still use other iPhone features when PdaNet is connected. But when you are done with them, go back to PdaNet to prevent the phone from entering idle and drops your connection.
* PdaNet has a built-in "insomnia" feature so you can turn off the phone when PdaNet is in the foreground and it won't drop your active connection. This will conserve battery.
* It is recommended that you charge the phone at the same time while using PdaNet because both WiFi and 3G will be put on full speed, both consume a lot of juice.
http://www.junefabrics.com/iphone/index.php
Hook a brother up you tease!!! Just kidding, I think. Unless you really wanna hook me up!
You got any idea of a release date?
Sounds great thanks for the tip, hopefully it will come soon sure would make tethering easy !
till now it looks like installing and there you go. no telnet - su -....
This is exactly the app I've been waiting for. No root wireless wifi tethering. Please bring more good news and keep us updated with the findings
I had been given a testing version in December as well, but unfortunately it's Windows-only at this point. =/
June Fabrics PDANET for G1
Hi,
I just received an invite from June-Fabrics last night for their alpha testing. I am able to access the internet through a USB Based connection using their software.
It is pretty ugly right now. but it works.
It appears that the connecitons are possibly throttled a little bit for testing purposes as I am able to browse pages as expected, but there are no images or graphics being displayed.
As this is my first connection, I am going to perform some additional tests and I will write my updates as I come across them.
Have a good day
please
OMG HURRY!!!!!!!!!!! I just wanna use my phone the way it should which is ocassionally to tether it to my Laptop!
Current tether with g1
http://www.androidactivity.com/tetherWifi.html
This tether application rocks. It also has bluetooth. I am getting around 700.
bummer
im currently leaving my phne stock as i see no benefit to tohaving root acess. Ill wait for an opensource app
AndroidActivity's Wi-Fi and Bluetooth tethers work wonderfully.
a1t said:
http://www.androidactivity.com/tetherWifi.html
This tether application rocks. It also has bluetooth. I am getting around 700.
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Ditto! I use tetherWifi also. It is the best. And it is free!!! Why pay for an app when Rooting is sooooooo easy.
markdam said:
im currently leaving my phne stock as i see no benefit to tohaving root acess. Ill wait for an opensource app
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You need to look harder if you're not seeing the benefit...

AP Mode

Anyone have a clue, how to get this working in the hero? Adhoc just doesn't cut it.
not going to happen, the hardware does not support it.
what device or os won't join ad hoc? Ive even had ipod touch's joined to my ad hoc hero wifi network. I know windows, mac and linux will all join ad hoc too, so wtf?
Low cost Android tablets are having a lot of trouble joining ad hoc.
Ps3, or other phones
Psp! And yeah, other phones wont connect to ad-hocs either. But not being able to use game consoles is a major buzzkill.
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DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?
animal7296 said:
DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?
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Only people who have played that sad campfest they call a game would understand how funny this comment is.
Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..
ipfreelytech said:
Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..
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Yeah its pretty obvious you don't.
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I have been able to setup my Linksys WRT54G with dd-wrt firmware flashed and have it use my phone's data and broadcast it through the router. The router is not inadhoc mode. I had to keep tweaking with all the settings to get it to work like I wanted. There are 2 reasons that I would not do it on a regular basis, especially if you are trying to play networked games.
1. The phone becomes really hot if you do not have it in front of a fan and can fry your phone
2. The download speed may be intermediate depending on where you are and the time of day, but the upload speeds can be very slow. Considering a majority of gamers have 6Mbs down and somewhere around 512Kbs - 1Mb up you will be falling behind.

[Q] MobileAP/X-Box Live Compatibility?

Hey guys, I'm a long time lurker, first time thread-starter, and I hope there is a simple solution to this.
This is more of a proof-of-concept question, and since the PS3 is capable of connecting to a tethering application I figured an XB could as well.
Recently, I updated my Captivate's ROM to the SREv1.3.1c (it was the ROM before he renamed it to Cognition). One of the added benefits was the addition of the Mobile Access POint, which is way better than PDANet in my opinion, but I digress.
Anyway, I've managed to turn the AP on and get it to connect to a PS3 with no issues and very little lag, which was awesome. However, the XBox is being a pain in the ***. i can go to my network connections on the XB, and my wireless attachment "sees" the connection just fine. It also connects and pulls both a IP and DNS server address. I even get 5 bars of great signal.
But when I run a XBL test, when it tries to connect to the internet it craps the bed and does nothing. Now, I've seen people get XBL to connect over similar tethering apps, even PDANet with its shaky connection issues, but I can't seem to figure this one out. As far as I can tell, maybe 3G has too high of a latency to be compatable, but I figured I'd ask the experts of XDA. Can anyone help?
Did I forget to say please or something? Any pointers?
Hey just wondering what is your configuration. like are you connecting with wi-fi from the phone, do you have a laptop to use? that is one of the easiest ways. or are you just usb direct into the console?
Well presently I'm using MobileAP which broadcasts a wifi signal that my laptop can pick up (it's how I'm typing this at the moment as well). It can be seen, like I said, but the XB won't get past the internet part of the diagnostic test.
I also had PDAnet installed a while ago so I know how to usb tether but couldnt get that to work on XBL either.

[Q] wifi tethering and ip camera

Hi,
I've read alot about wifi tethering on the forums, but I'm curious if the Nook Color (rooted) is able to become a wifi hotspot itself. The reason being, I have some wireless ip cameras that I'd like to set it up as baby monitors and it would be convenient be able to watch the stream directly on the nook (instead of having to go from ip cam --> router --> nook). This would be a significantly better setup than using the stuff they sell at toysrus/target etc (and cheaper too, in some ways).
From what I've read, there's lots of info on properly setting a tethering on a phone and connect the nook to that, but nothing on having a nook as its own hotspot. Also, this would be an LAN, so there's no need for an actual connection to the web.
Thanks,
Joey
PS. Sorry if I didn't post in the correct subforum, as I'm a new member, I can't post in the development section yet.
joey12345 said:
Hi,
I've read alot about wifi tethering on the forums, but I'm curious if the Nook Color (rooted) is able to become a wifi hotspot itself. The reason being, I have some wireless ip cameras that I'd like to set it up as baby monitors and it would be convenient be able to watch the stream directly on the nook (instead of having to go from ip cam --> router --> nook). This would be a significantly better setup than using the stuff they sell at toysrus/target etc (and cheaper too, in some ways).
From what I've read, there's lots of info on properly setting a tethering on a phone and connect the nook to that, but nothing on having a nook as its own hotspot. Also, this would be an LAN, so there's no need for an actual connection to the web.
Thanks,
Joey
PS. Sorry if I didn't post in the correct subforum, as I'm a new member, I can't post in the development section yet.
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Wow, what a good idea. I hope you get a positive answer on this since it would open up even more capability.
Double post.
Tethering requires 2 ip connections: one for wifi and one to the rest of the net. On the phone that would be the wifi and the carrier network. Since the NC only has wifi you cannot tether.
What maybe could work if you can operate your cameras in ad-hoc wifi mode (like computer to computer without a router). You would definitely need an other linux kernel on the NC to do that. Do not know if the Cyanogenmod kernels allow for ad-hoc wifi mode on the NC.
Check on the development forum for ad-hoc wifi, again assuming your cameras can work in ad-hoc mode.
The purpose is for a LAN (closed feed), so a carrier network would be unnecessary.
I know that Barnacle Wifi Tether has the option setup a connection (and forgo the data/carrier network (under "Local Mode -- Don't wait for data connection)).
My particular problem, is the ip cam doesn't allow for ad-hoc networks ( I believe the scene is working on opening the firmware and adding this feature).
It sounds like to me, that Barnacle Tether can issue DHCP and I can connect two Nooks together. Fun fact, but useless in many ways, cuz what's the point in connecting 2 nooks.
I'm curious if anyone else might be able to shed some light on this issue. Is it possible to have the nook act as a router or an access point?
-Joey
PS. To connect the 2 nooks together, I had to enable ad hoc mode by changing the wpa_supplicant file (in another post).
PSS. For those who are interested in doing what I'm doing, my current setup for my house includes several ip cameras, router, nook color (using "ip cam viewer" software). Everything runs great inside my house as the router takes care of business. I can view/pan/tilt the baby monitor (ip cam) around on my nook which is excellent. My particular ip cam can also record audio and play audio, so I can hear the baby, but unfortunately the nook has NO mic, so I can't talk back (but who would need too??).
PSSS. The issue is currently, I can't take one of the cameras away from home (vacation or to visit family) without taking a spare router/access point with me. I was hoping for one less thing to carry (but at least routers are pretty small and cheap these days).
tvoverbeek said:
Tethering requires 2 ip connections: one for wifi and one to the rest of the net. On the phone that would be the wifi and the carrier network. Since the NC only has wifi you cannot tether.
What maybe could work if you can operate your cameras in ad-hoc wifi mode (like computer to computer without a router). You would definitely need an other linux kernel on the NC to do that. Do not know if the Cyanogenmod kernels allow for ad-hoc wifi mode on the NC.
Check on the development forum for ad-hoc wifi, again assuming your cameras can work in ad-hoc mode.
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Joey, have you been able to come up with any updates? I am looking to get an android tablet and foscam ip camera for a similar set up. One thing that I can't figure out is how to make a direct connection to the camera without the need for a router when travelling to friends and family. Thanks!
No luck so far, the nook can't act as a HOT SPOT, and foscam/ipcam development doesn't have any updates either (for ad-hoc connections).
The cheapest solution (both time/money) is to buy a wireless AP (ASUS WL-330gE - newegg has this item for $22 after rebate). The problem is obviously the extra unit and the power cord that comes with it. It's a small unit and I can glue it down to the ipcam.
It's not the most elegant solution (tablet --> wireless AP --> ipcam), but it's still fairly small and cheaper than the stuff at babyrus.
part16john said:
Joey, have you been able to come up with any updates? I am looking to get an android tablet and foscam ip camera for a similar set up. One thing that I can't figure out is how to make a direct connection to the camera without the need for a router when travelling to friends and family. Thanks!
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Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
Asphyx said:
Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
Asphyx said:
Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
exeLz said:
That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Asphyx said:
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!
Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.
I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653
I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?

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