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Got to thinking... I dont own an iPhone and have never held one. From what I understand, the iPhone has a Visual Voice Mail feature that essentially stores voice mail on the phone.
Now, is this as simple as ATT sending the WAV file to the phone as an attachment and the phone storing it? Plus the iPhone having a built in app that "threads" the list of voice mails?
I was looking at this application:
http://www.motionapps.com/mvisualvoicemail/_otherppc.jsp
But, my provider, ATT, doesn't send me the WAV files so the above program will not work for me. I use Vonage and they DO send the voice mail attachment but I use TCMP to open and listed.
Just wondering how the iPhone did what it did and why the reset of us are missing out on this same feature.
Congratulations. On another thread you flame a noob for asking a question thats been asked before... and then you start a new thread about this
Sorry, I guess you misunderstood. I'm looking for carrier specific option. I mean, ATT already does it for ONE brand of phone, right? Why not all phones. Callwave, GrandCentral, etc are all 3rd party stuff. They might work, yes. But again, if ATT does it for one, why not all?
My point was that you could have discussed it on the existing thread about the issue... considering your post the microsd card threads...
In my past experience (using Treo / Palm) running 2-3-4 "inbound call programs" causes you to loose calls. For example, when an inbound call comes in, you start up Ringo, MagiCall and something else, by the time all 3 applications do their thing, the phone locks up or whatever and you miss 90% of your calls.
The thread you point to requires more modifications than I want to attempt to use. Replying on sooo many variables (3rd party apps, 3rd party answering machines, etc) I think you are bound to miss calls eventually.
In the end, I'd perfer not to miss calls or voice mails. I'd just like for my carrier, ATT, who already does it, to send me the voice mail as an attachment and then store it on my phone.
I think the program I point to in my post, MVisualVoiceMail is just for that, reading attached email voice mails, which I want from my carrier, ATT, the same provider that already does it for one brand of phone, the iPhone.
It's still the same question. Only the iPhone has visual voicemail. AT&T will not support it on other phones.
Full marks though for ignoring my point...
Hey. With the original standard HTC ROM, if I go into settings/connections/SMS service it gives me the option to send SMS using GPRS. Does this mean I do NOT have to pay for a TXT messaging package from my carrier (AT&T)? I currently have unlimited internet usage on my account and do not want to buy an additional TXT msg package. Is this possible? Is it reliable for txt msgs? Does it affect battery life?
Thanks for any help!
i would also like to know the answer to this question. i would love to be able to send sms through gprs without paying anything. but i have the att rom and theres no settings for it. if i flash to htc rom will i be able to do this?
UP!
If you flash to the HTC ROM I believe you will be able to do it. Well, at least I can confirm that you will have the option in the settings to do it. I am using an OEM Kaiser direct from HTC, not a Tilt.
I am just wondering if anyone has confirmed that they can ditch the AT&T SMS Text messaging plan and send all messages through GPRS instead??
Anyone??
I just tried sending an SMS over GRPS via a T-Mobile PAYG sim, I got charged for it as normal
Are there any IM programs anyone is aware of that can initiate a chat with SMS, but otherwise is offline?
I don't get a lot of chat requests, but I do sometimes chat a bit, and I only have 250 sms. But I find that IM+ uses quite a bit of battery, particularly on HSDPA. If I exit it and just leave FlexMail running (2 idle imap mailboxes) it uses only a few percent of battery an hour vs 10% or so with FM and IM running.
So perhaps there's an IM program out there that is offline until you get an SMS, at which point you can chat over data? Figure it's worth asking.
I made a fair attempt at searching, but all I find either use SMS or data, no hybrids.
I've continued to look, haven't found anything yet. I have switched to Jabber using transports to see if that lowers data usage, but the jury is still out on that, I'm tracking battery usage right now.
OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.
austinsnyc said:
OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.
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I guess I wasn't terribly clear.. I want an IM program would do basically this:
Goes online (using data I presume)
Program itself now goes offline (no more data usage)
When I get an IM, I get an SMS which initiates the program going back online
Chat over cellular data
When done with chat, program again goes back offline and waits for another sms
Seems the perfect combination for someone like me who doesn't have a lot of SMS and wants to save on battery life at the same time.
...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.
You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".
drawde said:
You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".
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That really IS the best way at the moment. Unfortunately, developers either go for the SMS or the data. SMS cost more usually, and data is not as reliable.
MrEous said:
...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.
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Hmm, I didn't realize that the $15 unlimited plan covered the whole group. I thought it was per-user. I might have to look into that.
I have 250 for $5 just for myself. Yeah, the initial SMS would come out, but that's not a big deal, I don't get a lot of SMSes or initiated chats, but there are times I need to be contacted to get in touch with someone on IM and aren't near a computer. And at work I don't have personal IM running (except on the Tilt ;-) )
I'll check out your suggestion.. Sounds like that's a good possibility to just go all SMS for the IMing.
i do believe that AIM has the ability to do this, if you are offline and i wanted to get in touch with you and you have your AIM account setup correctly by providing the profile with your phone number there will be the option to send via text message, at that point you will receive the text message and then get online yourself to talk to the person.
i dont think there is any program that once you receive the text message that it will automatically go online for you.
it may be ICQ i dont remember which client has this capability of sending text but one of them do it.
Hello, I have a HTC FUZE with AT&T and an unlimited messaging package.
I'd like to use an AIM-based client via texting rather than data because i locked data usage (they charge $0.01/kb) and my phone connects automatically.
Anyone has the .CAB file to install on the phone?
I found a few in this forum but they were for T-Mobile and Sprint.
Thank you in advance!
Just sign on to AIM and hook up your phone for mobile usage...its uses texting rather than data..
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Just sign on to AIM and hook up your phone for mobile usage...its uses texting rather than data..
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Sign in to AIM? Where?
I mean, i want the application for my phone, the .cab installation.
The aim that my phone brought requires a data plan
I tried installing the new beta of aim too but it requires a data plan as well...
Here is the cab file:
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Here is the cab file:
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It connects through data
it requires Media nET
Here's the OZ messenger that came default on AT&T's Fuze.
It uses txt messages to send IM's, but it MAY require a small amount of data transfer to get the list of online friends, etc. It should be minimal, if anything.
kennyb123 said:
Here's the OZ messenger that came default on AT&T's Fuze.
It uses txt messages to send IM's, but it MAY require a small amount of data transfer to get the list of online friends, etc. It should be minimal, if anything.
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This one asks for data too, and i have my data unlocked because its "pay per usage" and they charge 0.01$ every 1kb.
So i can't use aim at all on my phone i guess.
Is there an updated version? Or is 2.0.84 the current one? I went to Oz's site and the screen shots look nicer, but i'm not sure if that's for WM phones and also, no download links on the site...
latest version is 2.0.94 but it looks the same as .84
All of them require some data. Read about OZ, you'll see. The one I poasted is dirtectly from AT&T.
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
phamous said:
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
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....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
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....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
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I'm sure there isn't. But I'm pretty sure you don't need a data plan. My old RAZR did it just fine without a data plan. I know from experience that you can't send or receive mms over wifi
MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing.
isikh said:
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
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you used to be able to, but T-Mobile took care of that, and the APN is now blocked so you can't send or receive the mms messages. Kinda sucks.
settings for MMS over wifi?
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
i think it would be pretty useful.... cause i dont get 3G service in my room or good service at all , and sometimes its impossible to even send an sms
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pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
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I did not say you could send MMS over WiFi, I said you could only send MMS OTA, which means Over The Air, aka through your carrier's network.
The reason people can't send MMS with cooked ROMs most of the time is because they do not enter their carriers settings into the phone, just like you need to enter the data settings. Sometimes, the date account settings and MMS settings are one in the same, but most of the time they are not.
As well, MMS are independent from having a data account. Every single carrier allows any customer to send and recieve MMS for a nominal fee whether they have a data plan or not. Some bundle MMS in with text while others with data, but MMS is independent of both of those services in terms of network protocol and phone settings(with a few exceptions where if you have a data plan, it is the same setting that your phone uses to do MMS and internet)
WiFi and MMS
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
Yes, you must set up your phone with proper MMS and SMS settings for your carrier. MMS does not need dataplan.
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Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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And these APN settings are far and few to find but good luck if you find them, I have tried everything, every different type of APN for T-Mobile US and had absolutely no luck.
These are not facts but my own conclusion about this: What I'm afraid is that Android pushes all MMS activity through the data connection anyhow. Because after using another T-Mobile SIM, with the data connection, I was instantly able to download all my MMS pictures. So I don't think there is any correct APN setting for MMS to work without the data plan sadly. That's why I started a thread awhile ago to hopefully build support.. but I guess most people out there have the data plan or no data plan + no messaging or simply just don't care about MMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559805
I'm just hoping that somebody will try to fix this problem eventually, but like I've discovered there just isn't much demand for it. Personally, I want to get into Android dev but I can't say how long it'll take me to learn the ropes plus if I'll even be able to do anything about it myself.
MMS over wifi
Yeah, it is crazy that MMS is not available over wifi that we know of. I was going to call tmobile for the APN, but from reading it sounds like MMS by default goes over there new data APN? no clue. What a crappy way to make money for tmobile that they have to force customers to have the data plan. At least SMS works and other functions over wifi (which is really all I need). I don't have time for non-stop data access for my phone. Yeah, hopefully there will be an alternate fix to access MMS over wifi or another APN. Any ideas or does any one have a working APN they can provide?
I guess I'll try tmobile again for a valid APN.