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alrightly well i got my refurb in the mail from aspurion, sprints insurance,
so i really would like to know is it against my insurance terms to take apart my phone?
i'd really like to make a screen replacement guide, as i'd rather replace my screen then replace my phone next time i crack the screen.
so any info would be great!

xpgamer523114 said:
alrightly well i got my refurb in the mail from aspurion, sprints insurance,
so i really would like to know is it against my insurance terms to take apart my phone?
i'd really like to make a screen replacement guide, as i'd rather replace my screen then replace my phone next time i crack the screen.
so any info would be great!
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Somewhere in the breakdown process there will be a seal you have to break to get it open. If you can't remove that seal without breaking it then you've voided your warranty (even with insurance) and you will be paying for that phone after it gets back to Asurion. Best thing to do would have been to reported it as totally busted (ran over by a car? lol) and then after you make your disassembly guide you destroy it and send it back.

flipzmode said:
Somewhere in the breakdown process there will be a seal you have to break to get it open. If you can't remove that seal without breaking it then you've voided your warranty (even with insurance) and you will be paying for that phone after it gets back to Asurion. Best thing to do would have been to reported it as totally busted (ran over by a car? lol) and then after you make your disassembly guide you destroy it and send it back.
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It is a simple white sticker over one of the lower screws. Easily taken off with a razor blade and put back on when you are finished. No one will be the wiser. I have done it twice and it was very simple. Good Luck.

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Broke My Att Tilt!

Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
NappyBoy001 said:
Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
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Is it "obvious" that the phone took a fall? If not, then you could probably get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.
I never had a screen issue with my 8125, but I did brick around 7 of them from various issues with flashing custom roms. As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
NotATreoFan said:
Is it "obvious" that the phone took a fall? If not, then you could probably get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.
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Screens don't just crack. They'll sniff out the lie.
and another one...i do feel better now after i broke mine, since it is a tilt u should be able to go through service see how much that will cost, if its over $200 u might be better off doing it urself by getting a screen elsewhere
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
NotATreoFan said:
get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.....As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
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the phone dosent really looked banged up on anything. what should i tell them. i really wanna get out of this not paying a thing...i paid to much for this phone.
benchMarc said:
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
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where did you get yous fixed?
Unless you insured it somehow, you're going to have to pay to replace it. I don't see why anyone should pay for your accident if you didn't arrange coverage for it somehow.
they don't allow you to get insurance on it.
AT&T might not, but you can add it to your homeowners/renters policy or secure outside insurance from a third party (Safeware is one that I'm aware of). Mine is covered under my homeowner's insurance at a very low cost.
aite. but what do i do?
NotATreoFan said:
get it replaced by calling AT&T's handset repair department (800-801-1101, I think) and just lie to them.....As long as I was careful with how I worded it, I got a new phone each time.
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the phone dosent really looked banged up on anything. what should i tell them. i really wanna get out of this not paying a thing...i paid to much for this phone.
benchMarc said:
My screen was cracked after 4 days of having it :')
It was inside my pocket without any further protection and i walked against something. Did cost me 136 euro to fix the screen.
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where did you get yous fixed?
You go buy a replacement or get the screen fixed. They're not going to believe that you didn't break it yourself. I believe PocketPC Techs advertises that they can fix the screen.
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db1-0d15896736f242ad61bedaefd7d48e58.jhtml
This is an auction site like ebay in China. Buy it now price is 400 RMB. equals $55 approx.
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db1-0d15896736f242ad61bedaefd7d48e58.jhtml
This is an auction site like ebay in China. Buy it now price is 400 RMB. equals $55 approx.
I cracked my screen just s few days after getting it. I just repaired it this morning.
Contact njbridges here on the forum, or go to www.phoneystore.com and order the LCD from him. You have to get the whole LCD, as the digitizer portion is not available as a separate component. It cost me $120 + shipping to the US. He even included all the tools you need to make the repair. It literally took me 15 minutes to do. There are 4 torx screws under the display to remove, and then you use the separator tool that is included to remove the top housing. Once you've done that, unplug the LCD, slide it out, slide the new one in, reconnect the LCD, reassemble the top plastics, replace the screws, power back on, and you're done.
It's really simple to do. Why pay someone else to do it (especially if you're given the correct tools for the job).
Regards,
Jeff
Send it to at&t just don't tell them that the screen is broken tell them that it doesn't turn on, it worked for me and my 8125.
NappyBoy001 said:
Dropped my phone and the screen is all inked up NOW!
I purchased the phone about a month and a half ago...
the screen is the only thing thats messed up...it still made sounds and stuff like normal.
WHAT SHOULD I DO"?
Im so confused.
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Me, too.
I just got back from Panama City, Panama where I was without my screen for a week. I talked on my phone while leaving the mall, put it in my pocket and pulled it out 15 minutes later after getting out of a taxi and the screen was broken. I'll be calling AT&T as this is my business' corp account. I had insurance on my Treo and my 8125, but think I may have dropped it on this one.
It does suck. The phone was three weeks old. I've gone back to my 8125 that's gone through hell and back without any problems....
I've got my fingers crossed or else I'll just order the screen myself.
Joe
www.jozle.com
http://www.phoneystore.com/product.asp?id=114327
See someone else posted this sight above also. I believe this will be the lest expensive way to go.
trick420 said:
I cracked my screen just s few days after getting it. I just repaired it this morning.
Contact njbridges here on the forum, or go to www.phoneystore.com and order the LCD from him. You have to get the whole LCD, as the digitizer portion is not available as a separate component. It cost me $120 + shipping to the US. He even included all the tools you need to make the repair. It literally took me 15 minutes to do. There are 4 torx screws under the display to remove, and then you use the separator tool that is included to remove the top housing. Once you've done that, unplug the LCD, slide it out, slide the new one in, reconnect the LCD, reassemble the top plastics, replace the screws, power back on, and you're done.
It's really simple to do. Why pay someone else to do it (especially if you're given the correct tools for the job).
Regards,
Jeff
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thanx man,
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thanx man,
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Any time. One thing to note, putting the outer plastic cover back on is a little bit of a bear - it's a tight fit. you will need to put some serious pressure on the housings to snap them together. It's especially difficult on the power button side of the phone. I used a small flat screwdriver between the top and the keyboard to support the carrier plastics on the top and then used thumb pressure to snap the top plastic to the carrier.
Jeff
As someone who has been through quite a few exchanges with Cingular (none since AT&T officially took over), and as a former employee of a Cingular warranty service provider, I can tell you that they do cover screen damage under very specific circumstances.
When going through the process on the phone, they will ask you basic questions like:
"Is there a pink strip under the battery?" - Indicates water damage
"Was the phone ever dropped from a distance greater than 2 feet?" - This is the important question for screen damage. Damage sustained from drops of 18 inches or less are covered.
It is a reasonable assumption that a cell phone, which is handheld most of the time, will be dropped on occasion.
The biggest question is whether or not the phone shows signs of "physical abuse". If you can answer no to that, then you should have no problem getting your phone exchanged.

AT&T Warranty Replacement

Ok i recently posted about my device being dead and getting a replacement, well i guess it was easier than i thought and they have shipped out a replacement device. The problem is is they read me the terms and in those terms was "if we find any physical or water damage we will charge you $499 unless you send back the replacement and either way they WONT SHIP BACK YOUR DAMAGED DEVICE!!!!" I think that is rediculous. And ok i have a small crack in my lcd that happened a few days before it stopped booting. Ive kept all the factory stickers and screen film on from day one (been waiting for my screen protector) so im sure they will remove the screen film but you cant notice the crack at all, only if you look very very very closely you can see like a darker area along the crack. I have a oem lcd on the way and i was planning on replacing it so i guess my questions are should i send it back as is (do they take it apart and thoughroughly inspect it) or should i replace the lcd (does replacing the lcd require you to take apart the base or just the back screws on the screen?) and if you need to take the base apart is there a way to peel off the void sticker and replace the lcd and then replace the void sticker?
Replacing the screen will void the warranty so you might as well just send it as is and see what happens if you want the warranty work done.
so i would have to start at the base and unscrew the screws around the battery? theres no way to peel off the void sticker?
only thing with that is what happens when they find the crack? you lose the phone and have to pay for another phone.I think you might come out better just looking online to buy one and see if you can get the other broken phone to work again,if nothing else you'll have a phone you can use for parts which is more than you'll have if you send the phone in.But its your call if you don't think they'll see it go for it.
do they really have the right to keep my original device? i think that is rediculous if i send theirs back they should send mine back...
Bring it into an AT&T Store and ask them if your scratch will give AT&T the right to keep your device.
met3ora said:
Bring it into an AT&T Store and ask them if your scratch will give AT&T the right to keep your device.
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I agree. Take it in to an authorized AT&T dealer ahead of time and have them check the damage.
If they say it's screwed up and AT&T would keep your phone, then you know your options.
Personally, i wouldnt even ask them about it. I'd just take my phone in with the ****ed up LCD and see if you can get someone in the store to replace the LCD for you. Tell them you will pay for them to replace it so the phone will stay under warranty. See if that works?
Don't take it to a authorized dealer becuase they have know idea what there taking about. Take it to a AT&T corporate store, because they work for AT&T.
dawa259
dawa259 said:
Don't take it to a authorized dealer becuase they have know idea what there taking about. Take it to a AT&T corporate store, because they work for AT&T.
dawa259
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exactly. that's what i'd do.
Please let us know how it does.
I'm getting my tilt soon too
ok so ive heard back from htc, they quoted me that the mobo would be replaced under warranty but the lcd/housing would cost $192 (they also stated the housing of the phone needed to be replaced because "its such a tight fit that they need to break it to get the lcd out" and thats just crap!) I told the guy that that does not need to happen and im sure of that so he sent a request back to the techs to see what can be done if the phone can be sent out wit the replaced mobo and the broken lcd still inside (as i can still use the device its only a small crack). He stated that they need to replace the lcd for the purpoe of running the tests to make sure the mobo is fine so it can be covered under their 90day parts warranty. Any advice on what to say? Dont i have the right to get MY property back (the broken lcd) as is. They never stated anywhere that they would have to keep the broken parts by policy..

Water Damaged Diamond... what next?

Hello all, while drunk at the beach this weekend I accidentally went into the water with my Touch Diamond in my pocket... stupid... I know, did I mention I was drunk? Anyways, the current issue at hand is what to do with my screwed up cell phone.
I took the backing, battery and SIM card out of the phone and let it dry out as much as I could since the weekend. When I turned it on this morning, the "smart mobility" text appears for a few seconds, but the phone shuts off shortly after that. Do batteries usually break from water damage, as well?
If anyone has any advice for me I would greatly appreciate it. Does anyone know of a legit place that can repair this? Is there anything I can do to try and remedy this problem? Or would you recommend I just sell/ditch this one and get a new phone? Thanks a lot.
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
Disassemble your Diamond completely (manual floating around somewhere in this forum), clean all pieces using one of these isopropanol-brush-thingies, reassemble, turn it on - and pray. Any year - a new battery might be a good idea. No promises on anything of that though. The diamond is a very integrated piece of technology and you might have short-circuited something on one of the PCBs really. No guarantee that everything will work as usual even if the device comes up as well.
Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
That's true, I meant to say insurance, heh.
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
I have the same problem with my Tytn 2. It got wet during the "Oranje" Party in Basel, when the firemen were "cooling" down the fans...
It boots..but as soon as it has booted, you here a lot of "bling..bling..bling.." and it shuts down.. the batterie doesn't charge..
You recommend to open and clean it with alcool? Actually I'm not sure if it was washed by the firemen or by my own alcool .ehhehe..
I have a Diamond now, but if I get it back to work, I would sell it on ebay.
Regards
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Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
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There is a watersensor inside the diamond. They'll notice that the device has been in the water.
wardy said:
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
Firstly remove the battery and SIM, please do not try to power up or charge again as you might have already damaged it beyond repair.
Isopropanol or IPA is what you need (100% Alcohol), you can get this from your local chemist for about £5 a bottle.
You need to strip your phone down completely and use an anti static PCB brush to clean the whole lot (Buy it from Maplin), submerge it in a plate of IPA (excluding the screen) while cleaning. As for the warranty sticker remove this by first heating with a hair drier, then uing a Stanley knife point to remove it.
Once it’s all been cleaned and dried in air, re-assemble and power up. If it fails to work take it back for a warranty replacement. As the warranty sticker is intact, and all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
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Pretty sure? I would check if I was you before doing anything else with it. If insurance doesnt cover water damage, what does it cover? Phone insurance is so expensive i thought they covered everything like theft and accidental damage, I thought the idea was a warranty wont cover you if you break the phone but insurance will.
I'm thinking it may be an idea to check before you do anything else so they dont say "Well we cover water damage, but now youve taken apart the phone we cant cover you"
Antimus said:
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
imranbashir_uk said:
all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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All the evidence, that is, apart from the water-sensitive tab which I am assuming you didn't know about...? (behind the tab for attaching a strap)
Mathew
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
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or doese he mean "Swimming Diamond" ... Is that a new feature we overlocked? I think it's time for another entry in the tweaklist... *rofl*
My warranty does not cover accidental water damage, that is for sure.
I charged the battery up over the weekend and tried turning it back on, and, to my utter amazement, the phone completely powered on. I got to all of my menus and was able to use all of the programs that I opened, even the WiFi worked.
However, the functionality of the touch screen is quite screwed up. I don't know if its shorting out or what but there are basically "ghost taps" and other unintentional actions happening all the time. For example, if I were to just leave it at the home screen it would eventually scroll to another menu, open the start pull-down menu, automatically open the calendar and start doing random ****, etc.
Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
nairb011 said:
Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
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Maybe try to re-calibrate the touch screen?
Don't give up hope, sometimes these things can take days, even weeks to fully dry and become functional. My mom had a sony ericsson somethingorother that she loved, dropped in the tub, didn't work for like a month or more... She'd check it every week or so to see, and slowly the features started coming back... Little by little, more and more buttons would respond (without activating 2 or 3 at a time). Well, long story short (too late?) works 100% now. I don't think water damage is a reparable occurrence, but DON'T sell your Diamond for parts or anything like that, keep it around and check back periodically. Best of luck.
there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
deuillevent said:
there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Haha you're all over it... Yeah, I had a feeling they'd have something in the phone, they'd never make it THAT easy.

Broken screen- how to replace?

So someone crashed into my son at a football game and broke the screen on his 2 week old Tilt...
Anyone know if it's worth trying to fix myself or should I just go for a warranty/insurance repair?
How hard is it to replace the screen? Are there any drawbacks (warranty/insurance voids, etc)? How much does it cost to get a new screen on the Tilt and how long does it take to install?
I would go for the warranty if it's still good.I took apart my Tilt and put it back together with guidance:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/
Well the warranty doesn't cover broken display, unfortunately. And my insurance deductable with AT&T is somewhere around $150 (can't remember exactly how much, but I know it's around $150). So I am thinking I might want to try to fix it myself and if I fail, then use the insurance...
Thanks for the link!
will i just replace my sceen about a 1 week ago, i got the sceen off ebay for $45 take about 1hr. yes it going void warranty because u going brake the seal, but ya it not that hard change it up.
Where is the seal? Is it possible for me to do it very carefully so the seal can be put back unbroken?

$100 serviced Hd2 repair goes awry

I took my shattered glass HD2 in to replace the glass today at a local store. I was quoted $100 for the glass replacement. I thought, "hey excellent price. I'd rather pay a bill than ruin my phone by doing it myself." (I have fixed all my prior lcds on my phones just FYI) Needless to say about 5 hours later they tell me that due to the damaged state of the phone the lcd was affected as well from the jarring it took when it was shattered. Apparently there were was one large tear of the anti-glare coat on the top left hand side and two other areas where it was lifted as well.
I tried calling them out by saying the technician did not take the required precautions to avoid tearing the anti-glare coat on the lcd when separating the digitizer and lcd.
Unfortunately, I had the option of continuing as is or ordering an lcd screen from them for another $100. The owner who seemed pretty nice said he would try and see if he could get the price on the replacement lcd lowered. Personally, I believe I should not have to pay for the lcd since it was NOT damaged when I took it in.
I probably don't have any recourse though since they say it's a risk associated with this phone. I should have just bought the combo together and done it myself. That's what I get for trying to save a few dollars.
Would you gentlemen have any suggestions?
theres not really much you can do unless you just want to live with it. i was going to suggest getting a warranty replacement but realized it voids warranty when taken apart. if you want things done right DIY cant really rely on shops to do anything anymore..
That sucks. I'd want to be damn sure they are replacing the screen with a genuine article too.
Unfortunately you can't really prove that the membrane wasn't damaged prior to them touching the phone so it will be hard to get out of this one without forking out extra, however I suppose you could always politely threaten them with legal action and a public flaming on a busy internet forum if they don't want to play nice.
It's worked for me i nthe past when i've had issues with car servicing.
Warranty?
k20a1 said:
theres not really much you can do unless you just want to live with it. i was going to suggest getting a warranty replacement but realized it voids warranty when taken apart. if you want things done right DIY cant really rely on shops to do anything anymore..
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No warranty for physical damage to unit. Insurance would have covered it, if insurance was purchased? I did..

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