hello!
I bought a qtek 2020i and wanted to update it because he's with windows mobile 2003 second editon, and wanted to upgrade it to wm 5.0 or one that is possible. through a rom, but I need you to explain how to install everything, but I am new at this and does not realize anything.
even better was if they could get the software in Portuguese.
thanks
greetings
I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware
zenity said:
I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware
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I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...
paopaotang said:
I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...
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The reason why other HTC devices are able to run WM5 or above is quite complicated, but to be brief, it all comes down to the hardware/software interface, the OS must be able to access the hardware, and for this it needs drivers.
The problem is, Alpine's hardware is different from those devices which can run WM5 and above, and the drivers do not exist, and cannot be modified from other devices.
WM2003se drivers cannot work on WM5, and no other drivers are available, so I'm afraid it's an impossible dream.
In theory it might be possible to develop a version of Android for the Alpine, but this would require a team of skilled developers, and although there are such skilled developers here, I doubt they'd be interested in developing for what is now old hardware.
So, no WM5 or WM6 or Android, only dependable, stable and fast WM2003SE
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can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
Well, I must agree that WM5 slows down your PDA... for me its performance was kind of acceptable, but still noticeably slower. Especially if u install many applications.
I was just curious to see how WM5 looks like on my MDA III and how it works, but I haven't been satisfied with the results (slower and active sync couldn't recognise device)
so I downgraded it back to 2003SE. For now I think I'll wait a bit more to see how things with WM5 and this device will develop.
If u know why and what are u doing than u can try to upgrade, but imho if it ain't broken... :wink:
Re: No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
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After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
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I was (really I am who knows if it will arise again) having this same problem. Have made a follow up to the problem and it seems like the error reproduces if you take the battery out of the device.
I was able to have SIM service again (after many attempts) by resseting it.
I thought it was a problem with my SIM (its already 4 years old). Is yous as old as mine?
Please note my device model.
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can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
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I think it will depend on the kind of device you own. On my PDA2k (BlueAngel) WM5 runs even faster than 2003SE.
Some minor problems, though... :roll:
Agree with arieltools as my Orange M2000 (ba) runs perfectly acceptable.
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IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
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Hm-m... Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se. I suppose it becomes slow after some software is installed, maybe spb pocketplus 3.0 ore something... It's very important to make some hacks.
I switched registry to file mode, turned off animation and GUI sounds.
For more information try to search forum about tweaks2k2 wm5.
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Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se.
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Yep, I agree with that. Just flashed WM5 worked really great for me, but than again, sync didn't work (yep, i could reinstall XP, coz i know that AS will work in that case) and as soon as I upped some software from other pc, WM5 started to sink... Just to explain, applications worked relatively fast when they started, but getting to them (start - programs etc.) was really slow.
If anyone has good performance results with MDA III (T-Mobile) and WM5 (with some applications on it) i would like to hear about that.
I see that we still have a lot problems with w5 on our beloved blue angels.
Now, my question is: what is a major benefit to go from fast and reliable SE 2003 to W 5.0?
it's sluggish, unstable.
so, why we all upgrading-downgrading our devices up and down, is this a justified action to get a better OS or our desire to try something new?
Something new. :wink:
WM5 is a lot better than WM2003 but the problem is that there is no specefic official version of wm5 for blueangel, so developers reverse engineer other versions of WM5 and the leaked one from MS , to create stable OS. Latest WM5 versions are quite stable. None forces you to try WM5 if you don't like it downgrade and use WM2003
it's not about forcing me or someone to use w5.0, but what's better in this OS, what do you mean by saying better ? speed, stability extra functionality ?
I simply like it better
Its like WinMe vs WinXP
Well said TB. Kinda like, why are people instrested in Windows Vista? Windows XP work dunit? Acuttaly, don't answer that one.
Guys, you are talking very subjectivly:
like-don't like.
win me and win xp is quite dif. OS. Upgrading to XP gives us very stable reliable system with much more functionalities.
I simply like to see what extra features are in wm5, which are not available in SE.
so far we have OS with not 100% working BT, MMS, terrible ActiveSync, poor phone, etc.
I am very grateful to guys workimg on these ROMs, and thank them of course, but my question: is wm5 better than SE at all and what this better stuff is?
COM,
flashing OS takes about 15 mins. So, flash WM5, play with it. U can always go back to WM23.
And Wm5 to Wm2 is not like ME to XP. More like Win2K vs Win2K+service packs.
Well for me its a Me vs XP (My SE kept crashing and crashing, doublesending the same SMS, not sending MMSes at all, freezing when cancelling calls). WM5 drops Bluetooth connections, does strange things with the hw keyboard and works quite slow (I overclocked the CPU to 531MHz, it works... usable). But at least I can use my PHONE as a PHONE.
I agree with TB
I have many problems with 2003SE, 3-4 daily resets, because it hangs, when the battery and backup battery drains out you loose everything(such as in hard reset). I have no such problems with WM5 it is much stable and it is slower than 2003 but in the recent WM5 roms (Ivan's and Tuatara) the speed is improved and stability is much better than 2003SE
I like WM5 because it looks better, and the soft keys are very usefull. and you get to show off the nice and hard work of Mamaich, Tuatara and all others and say that xda-dev kicks ass!!!!
well, from what you are saying: wm5 is more stable !
Thanks, this is an advantage no doubt. let's hope we will soon get the final version from our gurus here.
By the way, should wm5 be a hardware independent OS, like windows XP and portable from one PDA to another?
Better not - due to XP's portability it eats up so much resources :| If you wanna try it yourself - Linux for example compiles (is compiled ) in order to match the HW configuration of the computer, while WindowsXP 'HasItAll, but mostly unusefull for your current hardware' :|
A new OS, which prevents your data from loss even at significant battery discharge, comfortable control without a stylus, improved Office Mobile. Noticeable cosmetic advantages.
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Will there every be a BA Official WM5 release
no, microsoft made one and distrobuted it to the telecos but it is there decision whether to release it. as far as i can tell they will never do this as it doesn't make buisiness sense, why give a free wm5 update away when if you keep it too yourself people are gonna buy a new phone to get it?
but.. we are keeping our phones anyway hehehehe :twisted:
(that's why we are on this phorum. Anyway..)
Hi,
I am using O2 XDA IIs for more than 8 months. I eagerly waited for the O2 update, as HP had offered to its ipaqs.But it was very disappointing that , instead of giving software updates; o2 started to show new models with Windows Mobile 5.0. I tried even from Microsoft site for upgrades, but that was a futile attempt.Then I finally decided to upgrade from XDA-developres.
You have to understand that major advantafe of WM5 over the Wm2003se is that data is not volatile; so there is no need to backup now and then.Secondly fast and secure.The major problem is that it needs faster processor. I hope it is helpful.
Kalonian said:
Secondly fast and secure.The major problem is that it needs faster processor
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WM5 is slower than WM2003SE. WM5 best offering is persistent storage.
It is because it has NAND based rom. So, it doesnt offer XIP
Yes it is a lil slower than 2003 but it hte rom is properly build (Ivan and Tuatara roms) you will find no diference for speed, bu you will find a lot more stability. The CPU is not so important, we see devices with 200 MHz CPU to run WM5 just fine (Prophet and Wizard), of course they have a lil problems with multitasking but thay have only 200 MHz CPU, so you have to expect some lag. Blueangel have more than enough resources to run and operate WM5, we just need a properly tweaked rom for this device.
Hi
I'm new kid on this forum and the question is simple to anyone who digged down deeper than me and sounds like:
Is there any possibility to upgrade or reinstall original "Windawz" Mobile 2003 second edition ver 4.21.1088 (build 15110.2.6.2) to Windows Mobile 5 (any kind of version)?
I have serched already a huge part of internet without success and I really would like to get any hint about. Does anyone of forumers saw such thing or better, already have it ?
Appreciate any responses, hints, tips, how to's etc etc
Commanddos
That's something that I would like to know too
UPGRADE 4 hw6515
Can ne1 pls tell me the answer for that question on top... I own a 6515 and am stuck with WM2003.. Can i upgrade it to WM 5.0 if so how????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328924
no, to WM 6.0 also no
I read something on the HP site that indicated that the device does not have enough memory to support WM5 let alone WM6. I guess if someone was able to take a ROM from a Sable and clean it up enough it might work but even then any device drivers may be out of whack...
WM5 is slow. I had once put it on my HX4700 and had to downgrade back to 2003SE.
Not possible. not enough space.
It's not a question of space. The 6515 has the wrong type of Flash ROM. It is physically impossible.
hx2790
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It's not a question of space. The 6515 has the wrong type of Flash ROM. It is physically impossible.
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how can that be i also got the hx2790 and upgraded it with wm6.5 , isnt it older than the hw6515
There is internet phone function in WM6, so I like to upgrade my mda in order to use Gizmo project. If I upgrade it, will the system be very slow for the MDA with only 200 mhz CPU?
Well Its Your Choice
Well, trying is ever the development thingy issues... too much roms for try right here
with the lasts releases i cant see the difference between wm6.1 and wm5
Most of the programs that runs on wm5 runs too in wm 6 and wm6.1
but please... read everything before do everything... ask wathever you want. to avoid brick youir device
I know, there is a lot to read, thank you!
SO which is the most stable rom for 6.1 with internet phone?
I have my HP 6515 for about 3 years now, and it's still working fine.
But even if it's updated to the latest official ROM from the HP site, the Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition on it, is just getting to old.
I think it would be great, if there would be made a cooked ROM for this device, with Windows Mobile 5 or 6. There would be some many more possibilities with this device, just with a ROM upgrade.
For example: the latest versions of DivX Player Mobile don't support WiMo 2003 (SE). I have to use one of the earliest versions to play AVI's on this device. It can play them fine, without hitches or errors, but you have to use an idiot old version, and you have to set the date to 2006 to get it working.
It's not because I don't want to buy a new phone or something alike (I have an HTC Prophet with WiMo 6.1) but I'd like to learn how to make a cooked ROM, and there's nothing better to experiment with than this device
What are the needs to create cooked ROM's, what software do you need, etc ?
I know there are people who can explain this to me on this forum, and I'm not afraid to learn (or brick my HP ).
Wow, it's great I'm getting so much response...
Does anyone here actually reads this ????????
Impossible
Don't bother anymore cause from what I've been reading it's not possible to put WM5 on iPAQ 65xx because of hardware incompatible memory, and if WM5 don't work WM 6.x is out of the questions cause it uses even more memory.
Have fun with WM2003SE.
yep!
even if you ask HP about it...