Android on Rhodium = better performance? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

would android on rhodium provide better performance?? i mean the rhodium has a ok processor and a massive amount of ram but windows mobile is a huuuugggggeeeee turn off.
does neone think android may solve the freezing, locking and other performance issues?
Thx all for ur facts and opinions

zaclolz said:
would android on rhodium provide better performance?? i mean the rhodium has a ok processor and a massive amount of ram but windows mobile is a huuuugggggeeeee turn off.
does neone think android may solve the freezing, locking and other performance issues?
Thx all for ur facts and opinions
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K.............

If you consider WinMo a turnoff, then this forum is not the place for you.

glcK23 said:
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I believe that's a fairly valid question, and might have been better to post in one of the Android for Rhodium threads, but I don't see the need to post such a useless reply glcK23...
On topic: I think Android would offer the TP2 better performance than the current WM6.5 builds, but there's still plenty of work to be done on the current porting project for the Topaz/Rhodium. And by the time a stable version of Android is available for us, we probably won't be far away from Windows Mobile 7. The chefs here making WM6.5 ROMs do a fantastic job at giving us great performance. I love my TP2 for what it can currently do, I'm not fussed about Android at all.

zaclolz said:
would android on rhodium provide better performance?? i mean the rhodium has a ok processor and a massive amount of ram but windows mobile is a huuuugggggeeeee turn off.
does neone think android may solve the freezing, locking and other performance issues?
Thx all for ur facts and opinions
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Yeah, it's pretty fast considering it isn't even fully using the GPU yet. It may be an early port still, but live wallpapers (my favorite is Star Field) run flawlessly and there's only a bit of lag. You know, you can always try it for yourself...

nackas said:
I believe that's a fairly valid question, and might have been better to post in one of the Android for Rhodium threads, but I don't see the need to post such a useless reply glcK23...
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nackas said:
On topic: I think Android would offer the TP2 better performance than the current WM6.5 builds, but there's still plenty of work to be done on the current porting project for the Topaz/Rhodium. And by the time a stable version of Android is available for us, we probably won't be far away from Windows Mobile 7. The chefs here making WM6.5 ROMs do a fantastic job at giving us great performance. I love my TP2 for what it can currently do, I'm not fussed about Android at all.
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hmmmmm huge point there aight then im just gonna wait for wm7 lolz thx for your thoughts

I'm not sure it'd offer better performance to be honest (compared to a TP2 running Sense 2.1, not the very cool but slow and buggy 2.5).
I had a T-mobile Pulse for a while, and it has pretty much the same internals as the Pro2 & did not perform much better, and sometimes a lot worse & needed a restart to speed things up.
I'll be interested to try Android on the Pro2 again once it becomes useable (and it's getting there fast).
There's so much about WinMo being outdated and rubbish compared to Android & Iphone etc, but I don't really agree - set up correctly you can do the very same tasks just as well as on the other platforms, and sometimes WinMo is better. Only things missing are a vibrant application store & compared to the Iphone, the snappy performance opening apps etc.
Oh, and if you want Android and a device with a Keyboard & WVGA screen, you could always get a milestone?

I had the G1 and Mytouch since before they were released. Now i have the touch pro 2.
Both have positive and negitives just like anything. Android does slow down after you load it with apps..
But considering the touchpro 2 is the same specs as the HTC hero (unlocked) I would think it could run the android Sense really well.. IF it was built for android
Trying to make a phone run with a different OS than it was built for regardless of specs, will take a long time to perfect.
Just do what i do, Buy a phone, use it, than when your board sell it on Ebay. Than buy another one, I'm onto the N900 next.
Have fun.

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New Sense UI on HTC hero?

anyone seen this yet?
i have and it looks tasty
if u havent check it out here
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/htc-hero-details-begin-leaking-from-htcs-own-website/
any thoughts on this being ported to a winmo HD?
because it looks so much nicer than touch flo?
post your thoughts people.
My thought is that it will not be ported. It's running on android, and uses android interfaces to communicate with the device.
We could only dream that at some point our blackstones will be able to run android.. These new android phones are starting to make me regret ever getting the HD
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My thought is that it will not be ported. It's running on android, and uses android interfaces to communicate with the device.
We could only dream that at some point our blackstones will be able to run android.. These new android phones are starting to make me regret ever getting the HD
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According to the HTC press release, HTC Sense will appear on ALL future HTC phones. This should mean that we will see it on Windows Mobile phones soon. Maybe then we will see it ported to the Blackstone.
regret getting a blackstone! take a look at what u just said and re think it! lol
Yeah, I'm a sinner, sorry
bad bad bad abats!
/enjoys blackstone again
Microsoft is so slow on moving with things
Android really looks like taking off. the only thing that prevented me from going android is that it seemed very bandwidth heavy. now seeing hero and android apps ahhh.. what are they doing at microsoft!! come on guys make it easy for me to develop apps!!! get your marketplace going !! come one balmer get onto a stage and do a crazy and get us excited about windows mobile again. wm6.5 is such a cop out.
but why do all android phones have a huge chin! thats another thing letting them down in my opinion, that and that so far they are only on t mobile and voda in the uk......No thanks!
g1nchy said:
Android really looks like taking off. the only thing that prevented me from going android is that it seemed very bandwidth heavy. now seeing hero and android apps ahhh.. what are they doing at microsoft!! come on guys make it easy for me to develop apps!!! get your marketplace going !! come one balmer get onto a stage and do a crazy and get us excited about windows mobile again. wm6.5 is such a cop out.
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yepp....windows mobile is dying slowly That why my Blackstone is my last WiMo device...iPhone and Android have a bright future...WiMo doesn't.
after more looking this new UI is so nice, widgets and everything, better contacts management and stuff. i want i want i want! please be on a winmo device so it can be ported
android porting to HD is being worked on.. lets keep our fingers crossed
HTC SENSE, looks interesting Let's wait for new cooked rom
lol, maybe chefs here can cook up something =)
Now THAT'S some serious ui!!
Can't wait till some xda-blackstone-chef gets his hands on this one...
it is coming to Windows Mobile accoring to this...http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
crosses fingers for an HD port!
I have to say that this HTC Sense UI looks great and seems to be very user friendly. I believe that sooner or later we will have "Sense" on ours Blackstones Patience...
the htc hero version can't be portet...even if android is running on the blackstone....there's a resolution problem...cause specs are as follows:
Inside you'll find Qualcomm's MSM7200A proc running Android at 528MHz, 512MB/288MB ROM/RAM, 3.2-inch TFT-LCD with 320 x 480 pixel rez, 900/2100MHz HSPA and Quad-band GSM, trackball, GPS, 802.11b/g WiFi, 3.5mm audio jack, G-sensor, compass, and 5 megapixel auto-focus cam with microSD expansion. It's all there baby.
But this ui will be available for windows mobile too...so I guess we will get a working version by the end of this years (at latest!!!).
HTC First Look Video of whats to come.....
Full promotional video from HTC can be downloaded HERE
VERY Impressive!!!!!
Expected UK Release Date 3rd July
I think this will be my next "adventure" - the main constraint for me will be Blackberry support though.....
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Looks like Point UI.
But it is smoothhhhhhhhh! Please port ass soon ass possible!!
the new ui is based on manila, the only difference is layout.
you have to think, the original android UI is used on all previous android devices.
this is the first UI built by HTC for the android OS.
so can be easily built for WM by HTC.
so glad i spotted this and posted it before everyone else did lol

POLL: Would you buy X2 knowing the CPU is the same?!

I'm not!!!!
Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-2926.php
It does look very sexy though http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-3d-spin-2926.php
dude there is a neverending thread about this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555651
spikegotti said:
dude there is a neverending thread about this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555651
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i tried searching for one but it doesn't let me search for less than 3 characters or whatever ("X2").... not my fault
on second thought the vids i'm seeing on youtube show it's rather fast but i'm still not convinced by prototypes.....
Not unless they pay me for taking it and after that I'm going to sell it and buy a real modern device from a company that doesn't piss on its customers.
i wouldnt buy it even if the CPU was faster
comeradealexi said:
i wouldnt buy it even if the CPU was faster
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That crossed my mind as well haha.
orelsi said:
That crossed my mind as well haha.
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lol... said by a man who praises x1 over everything else. what an epic fail...
Unless it was cheaper, I cannot justify another $650 (family center discount) for much of the same.
if X2 2nd hand price for next 6 month is $300, i'll buy it . im still in love with my X1 now
vietdoan20062006
They need improvements on not only the CPU, but also the screen (AMOLED and larger).
What a retarded topic - like if it makes any difference if the CPU is faster (it's plenty fast enough already) or if some exotic display tech could only solve the problem of being resistive (AMOLED and similarly clueless idiocies)...
...it is Windows Mobile, dumbos, THAT IS THE PROBLEM, period.
It is not slow nor badly "coded" (like if SE or HTC has much to do with WM's root timing & kernel issues), it is simply Windows Mobile ergo it SUCKS.
Better than iCrap because it has multitasking and probably still has more apps (But who cares?) but worse in almost anything else.
Better than Android in hardware etc support and has more apps but worse in anything else.
Any other way it SUCKS compared to anyone else.
Yes, that's all.
szlevi said:
What a retarded topic - like if it makes any difference if the CPU is faster (it's plenty fast enough already) or if some exotic display tech could only solve the problem of being resistive (AMOLED and similarly clueless idiocies)...
...it is Windows Mobile, dumbos, THAT IS THE PROBLEM, period.
It is not slow nor badly "coded" (like if SE or HTC has much to do with WM's root timing & kernel issues), it is simply Windows Mobile ergo it SUCKS.
Better than iCrap because it has multitasking and probably still has more apps (But who cares?) but worse in almost anything else.
Better than Android in hardware etc support and has more apps but worse in anything else.
Any other way it SUCKS compared to anyone else.
Yes, that's all.
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Excuse me? Better go get some brains before you make a joke of yourself on the Internetz.
1 - Having a better and faster CPU is the sole gole of both the manufacturers and the consumers. Are you kidding me? Faster CPU means, faster gameplay, movies. UI, multitasking and more. You just made the most ignorant claim in the history of the world.
The CPU is not fast enough and it is not the fault of the OS. You can tweak things only so far, after that, you need a faster CPU to take the load off.
2 - Lol wut? What has one to do with the other. AMOLED is good, because of the vivid colours and brightness.
FYI resistive is FAR, FAR superior to capacitive and if you didn't know that, you shouldn't post, only read, oh clueless one...
3 - Just because you can't handle the complexity of a certain OS, doesn't mean that the OS sucks. It mean thaat you don't have the skills and knowledge to appreciate it. WinMo is the most versatile, customizable and productive OS out there. Oh yeah, adding a "period" after your sentence doesn't magically turn it into the word of God...
Now GTFO and take your ignorance with you.
fight! fight!!!
sa7640 said:
They need improvements on not only the CPU, but also the screen (AMOLED and larger).
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Absolutely. Even with a faster CPU it is still ugly as hell and the screen is not big enough. There are many other thing not to like as well. I wouldn't buy even if it had a faster CPU.
orelsi said:
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3 - Just because you can't handle the complexity of a certain OS, doesn't mean that the OS sucks. It mean thaat you don't have the skills and knowledge to appreciate it. WinMo is the most versatile, customizable and productive OS out there. Oh yeah, adding a "period" after your sentence doesn't magically turn it into the word of God...
Now GTFO and take your ignorance with you.
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This one I have to agree!
i agree but i wont say customizable, the symbian platform is way more customizable than wm, everything on my P1 was changed, and i mean everything, and much easier to do so than on wm, but the symbian OS including the UIQ felt as though something was missing, apart from wm which is practically the same thing as windows on a comp except that its on a mobile device.
iphone os x is just as productive as wm now bcos of the developers who spend their time, you have to admit it, the iphone now is surpassing wm if it haven't, it seems as tho the wm developers have abandoned the wm platform...
i have emailed many developers about updating their apps and games for the wvga resolution and their response was nothing but bad news...
i agree this topic is useless only bcos of when it was published, why now when 6.5 is on the horizon???? ....shouldn't this be relevant when all we knew about was 6.1 which has the windows 98 appearance?
wm 6.5 in the latest builds is just as sexy as the iphone and android's gui, and the good part is that it seems to be more customizable than the two.
I wont buy X2 even they integrate 2Ghz CPU inside. There are no major improvements, i noticed only better camera and WM6.5 which you already can install to X1. Im happy with X1 now. IF i would buy new phone i would wait for something like HTC leo with QWERTY(TouchPro3 ?).
Does X2 even have G-sensor?
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i agree but i wont say customizable, the symbian platform is way more customizable than wm, everything on my P1 was changed, and i mean everything, and much easier to do so than on wm, but the symbian OS including the UIQ felt as though something was missing, apart from wm which is practically the same thing as windows on a comp except that its on a mobile device........
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I agree about most of those things. Symbian is still my second favourite OS, but I wouldn't put it on par with WinMo. It is a smartphone platform not a ppc one.
iPhail = CRAP.
matejdro said:
IF i would buy new phone i would wait for something like HTC leo with QWERTY(TouchPro3 ?).
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Oh yeah .
doministry said:
This one I have to agree!
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Yes I agree too. All Microsoft really has to do is make the buttons look larger and make the skin more modern (that is what they are doing on 6.5, but I'd rather have the 6.1 start menu as an option - at least newer builds make the 6.5 more easily customizable).
poetryrocksalot said:
Yes I agree too. All Microsoft really has to do is make the buttons look larger and make the skin more modern (that is what they are doing on 6.5, but I'd rather have the 6.1 start menu as an option - at least newer builds make the 6.5 more easily customizable).
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Agreed about the start menu.
Some things in 6.5 look weird or ugly to me, but as a whole I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, I was thinking about getting a second device with another OS, just to try something else. I'll stick to WinMo for the next several years for sure, but maybe an Android or a Maemo device won't hurt anyone .

[Q] Wil Manila 2.5 Sense UI ever run smooth on our HD Blackstone?

Hi there,
Title says everything.
I know that the HD2 Leo has a bigger processor then our HD, but with (lots of) tweaks on Manila 2.5, will it ever be possible that it runs smooth?
I mean, scrolling in photo's and music in landscape modus in manila is too laggy to use now..
I'm not a ROM cooker, so excuse me if this is a silly question.
I don't believe it can ever come close to running as well on the Leo but I've tried a bunch of them and Flashmore runs pretty dang well on it imho. I've played with the Leo and if the speed of it is a 10 on there Flashmore runs at 7 on ours.
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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Ok, really good to hear! Hope it will then
Else I would almost consider to buy a HD2
I think i've tried all the versions at some point in different ROMS and I have to say it IS getting faster imo.
I think there will alwasy be a gap between how it performs on a LEO to our Blackstone, mainly due to the amount of opitimisation HTC can apply over what the guys here can. Things like graphics drivers and API's.
It is more than usable in the most recent versions and hopefully it will become better and better.
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep
Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS.
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Doing the same i'm really fed up of winmo sluggishness, even the alpha android builds that are coming from #htc-linux are faster...
Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep
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Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?
the latest builds are getting better and better. all we need is good drivers and little overcloking of the cpu. at 600 Mhz it will be enough to run manilla 2.5 without problems. must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.
khanem said:
must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.
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totally agree with you! HD2 is way too big for me, I just love the design of our lovely blackstone
otherwise I think I would have bought the HD2..
Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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I hope for the same outcome, but we have to remember that the Leo ROMs were designed for use on the HD2 hence the reason for why they run so smoothly on that device, which has a bigger processor, more RAM, etc.
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.
Mastoid said:
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.
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I think the moment Windows 7 will be out for the HD2 (probably at the end of 2010) there will be much better devices on the market than the HD2, so no use if you buy one now
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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so, maybe WM 6.1 with manila 2.5..?
think I rather have a slower manila.. Really don't like WM6.1
Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?
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Umm yes Android has the lovely animations and they work super smooth on the Hero. the screen transitions from basic settings screen are even nice.
Windows mobile just has that horrible lag when swithcing between any app or screen. The kind of thing the Iphone and android doesn't have.
It may only be a small lag (half a second) but it makes WM look old and slow.
Also you have to remember that the hardware is required by Andorid to have OpenGL ES 2 support, which mean properly implimented drivers. 6.5 doesn;t.
I read alsi that it looks like windows 7 will only support the snapdragon CPU (although I can't see that actually being the case)
Logicalstep
I think Leo is so big!! and its battery could be better.... Our blackstone is the best device...! I think HTC Bravo with Android could be better than our loved Blackstone...
I use leo26 v4 with m2.5.. and I think the manila is running well.. lets wait manila 2.6. and in march wm7!!
barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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Dude you are running 1,5 OS on your device (wm + manila)...so no wonder why it's lame...just give a try to BlackDragonROM...it's as smooth as manila 2.5 can be...do not know if you will like it...but it's smooth. I also prefer android...had a new motorolla last week in my hands...it was smooth as hell...but the downside was...no apps...just a few google apps. They are all online apps...and I am living new france boarder...so online apps can be really expensive in those regions.
Wait for dualcore processors
Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html
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Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html
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i think these are more likely to go in low power laptops/netbooks than a mobile device. 1ghz is more than adequate at this point in time and this is before alot of the stuff is even optimised for a processor of this speed.
about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it. landscape photo and and music tabs wont ever be smooth as the drivers for the blackstone are such that there is a huge fps drop going from portrait to landscape (think what happens in opera) so even if the blackstone had the power, it is let down by drivers and theres nothing we can do about that.
but yea, an interesting question raised by the OP and im glad i took the time to look around the new manilla 2.5 roms.
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Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
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Wow you say this in Manilla 2.5 related thread on a ROM cooking forum...
...where WinMo 6.5.3 is available for HD
just saying
anyway back on topic i go
try this, people report Manila speed increase even on HD
also as people say different ROMs work better, the one i currently use works VERY well, i enjoy it
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about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it.
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Hmm, think I will give Flashmore a try then
Although..I red that the 1.6 Rev3 don't support the landscape modus in the Photo and Music tab? Cause he deleted the Diamond2 Gsensor configuration..?
Thanks everyone for discussing about this subject
EDIT: So I flashed Flashmore 1.6 Rev3.. Ok, manila is fast, but not faster as Mikenificent 7.0 I did install some 3rd apps to test if it would run fast with them..
So back to Mikenificent 7.0 then

{q} can we get flashable android rom

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The Devs are working on this at the moment on some other devices.
It's a Fake! NAND storage is not aviable at Topaz in this moment!
Damn it, I really wish it would be possible already.
As shavenyaknz posted, devs are working on a flashable ROM for Rhodium. Considering the huge similarities between Topaz and Rhod, their work should be easily ported to Topaz when the time comes.
However, right now the project relies on windows to initialize a good deal of stuff so that it would work on Android. So it'll take a lot of work to succeed in making the Kernel initialize everything properly.
HD2 can do it , we can too
Winmo is better
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
Uuuh no, that is all based on opinion. Sure, the windows mobile os is cleaner and has other benefits (including, if you have HTC) HTC sense UI, but nowadays, people want a phone that can do anything, and, even you would admit, windows mobile has far fewer apps then Android (official ones at least) and Android is becoming quite common among the smartphone croud. I like microsoft, but even I think they kinda dropped the ball on this one. However, I do think that Windows Phone 7 is a step in the right direction.
HTC OS
Hey i had this idea for a few days but only now i found a chat where i can ask it. Is there Symbian os for HTC devices?; and if there is where can i find it(if there isn't then why???)
thoughtunleashed said:
Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better.
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So why doesn't it?? If it did we wouldn't be lusting after android.
thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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Are you for real?
The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work
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The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work
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maybe a 128M data.img will do
thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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GPS connects better on android, so not everything by windows is better.
Android is better. I've been winmobile ever since the Orange SPV and imho Android ****s all over winmobile (except 7). I can't wait until I can flash android on my TD2, tho I'll probably have saved up the cash for an HD7 by then!
txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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Who is this "we" you are exactly referring to?
"TD2 is like wannabe" What??????
wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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The HD2 is the bigger version of the TD2
I have the TD2 befor HTC made the HD2
Now I have the Desire and gave the TD2 to my wife. And she want now to have the Android in the TD2 too.
wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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my only phone upgrade will ever be an hd2 i am not switching os's.... ive tried them all... seriouslly all!!!
i am only slightly tempted by WP7...
im gonna buy enough HD2's to last me the rest of my life...
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DFT TEAM has Android working on Nand PRO2

DFT team has released a video of Android running on nand pro2
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
youtube.com/watch?v=yOGnQ3D5IDk
wow
hey , sound good,
i hope working an topaz,too
i think they both phones have similar technical data.
i dont understand why cpu is to slow, lenin reds built with sense
run much more faster from sdcard than this nand built ????
btw good work from the DFT Team , thx
hello there. let's hope topaz, aka touch diamond2, wont be forgotten.
I'll be willing to pay for good working rom
sounds promising
waiting for more updates
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
loadstone007 said:
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
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Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
ReWind402 said:
Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
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Thanks!
It's indeed outdated, perhaps I should just wait.
thijsdgier said:
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
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Well, i don't know if this will be the same decision for topaz. But if yes then it's a bad bad info for me
I just hate pure android and sense in android rocks!!
I also don't understand this because i have lenin build and it's fasttt from sdcard!!!
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
Anyway thanks for all who make this possible even if it no feet my needs!!
Thank you
Zimaia said:
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
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AFAIK nand is not faster than sd-method. But it would allow you too get rid off winmo.
actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
Airpil said:
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
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you misunderstood my post, i'm just tryin to say how thing are and hd2 was best example i could think of. i like my diamonds very much. first gen was really awesome on looks, but low on hardware(slow and small ram..etc).
i wish there will be some goodies from dft soon
stirkac said:
actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
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quited d2 and joined moto defy~~~
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
Black.Heart said:
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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I am very much upset with that you are right!

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