I ASK THAT YOU READ ALL THIS BEFORE I GET TO THE FIX, BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTILAYERED TOPIC. I WANT EVERYONE TO READ THIS, NOT JUST DEVS OR SENIORS, BUT ALL THE LURKERS AND MEMBERS WHO'VE NEVER POSTED. I WILL ACCEPT ALL SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS.
THAT MEANS YOU. AND YOU. AND THATS RIGHT...EVEN YOU!
IN THIS POST, I WILL DISCUSS BRIEFLY MY PLANS FOR THE FUTURE OF MY HERO, HOW I WILL BRING MY SUCCESS TO PHONES AROUND THE USA, HOW I WILL JOIN THE LEAUGES OF DAMAGE, AND FLIPZ, AND ESPECIALLY DARCH, WHO WHILE WATCHED FROM A DISTANCE, WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR IT, BROUGHT ME THE ANSWER. AT THE END, I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE FIX[EDIT: REALITY; COMING SOON][sooner with your support!]
3 year lurker. xda is the only forum I've taken apart of in the community, and to a small sucess. I've actaully managed to help, learn, and now its time I give back to the community.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE I HAVE THE SKILLS REQUIRED TO BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE TABLE, AND HAVE ENOUGH TO SPLIT IT BETWEEN EVERY PERSON SITTING AT THAT TABLE. WILL YOU JOIN ME AT THIS TABLE?
If anyone has ever looked at my profile, then you know I've only been a member since March 25th, and have been made a senior in just over a week(not that I'm bragging...). I'm no spammer, all my posts have been legit, and I have actually helped people. I still consider myself a noob, but I do believe I have earned my seniority, and hopefully the support of all the main devs, who have helped me beyond belief, and have responded to any major question I had, especially with what Ive been working on lately.
If you've logged on within the past 2 weeks, and followed my posts at all, then you know that even if I dont know the answer, I offer suggestions, and more importantly support. I distinguish flames, stomp on the trolls, and still manage to bring my ideas to the table, so its time to test and see if I can make these idea's come true.
I cannot do this without your help.
I am now going to quote one the the best devs on this forum, with the fix.
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mountaindont said:
wanna hop over on my trackball fix thread?
im so damn close, i can see the lights!
...get it?
im uploading the directory we gotta mess with now. i just know you can help!!
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I think you're best bet would be to write an app to keep the trackball light forever on instead of trying to rewrite most of the frameworks and deal with all the dependencies to fix the trackball light.
if you really want to go and make the trackball stay always on by rewriting some code, i'd suggest you first look inside the framework jars with baksmali and find any lines which reference to the trackball, and see if you can somehow manipulate it to constantly echo 1 to the trackball led device in /dev to constantly stay on.
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If I'm going to start understanding the Android platform to the degree that Darch and co do, the best place to start would be writing my first application (this will expose me to the framework, the commands, and how to manipulate the OS like never before). Something I've looked into, and have tried a couple things.
-keeping in mind, that in all reality, Sprints final release will give the option to decide light or touch responsive...at least, I hope so...-
I get my laptop back tomaro, and I will be studying the SDK to the T, and with the support of you guys, I will write an app to work on any 2.1 ROM, that will give you the option to keep the trackball light on or let it remain light sensitive[beta, first release] and eventually, options that will blow your mind. Things that handcent might incorporate, so you only have to use this app to pimp out the stock messaging app. Speed of flash. Customize vibration. Haptic feedback when clicking the trackball (links, function buttons, or just sitting on your homescreen, and you get that urge to just enjoy the pleasure of your customized vibration.) [future release, always FREE]
I dont know how long it will take me to learn the SDK enough to set something up from nothing and make this farfetched idea. I was hoping that someone could give me the scource code to a related app; handcent would be amazing, but something like Trackball Alert for the nexus one (its something, not nothing :-\) would be cool too. Or if you have programming skills, please, lets team up, I'm reading tutorials now. If I can complete "Hello Android", I'm sure I can make this happen.
THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT I ASK OF THE ENTIRE XDA COMMUNITY (lurkers, seniors, devs, and members who just want to test and give feed back)
WILL YOU SUPPORT ME?
If I ask a question (dont worry, this thread your reading now has gone through four topic changes to avoid clutter, I'll be sticking with this thread for updates, releases, and changelogs -
I might start one more thread to keep up on bugs-) will you help? Will you subscribe and help my idea come to life, and bring a whole new customization option app. Will the main devs take part, seeing as how this app could very well be included in future releases of their ROMS (I'll talk about my ROM idea's in another update) Will the seniors with a sick attitude be able to put their frustrations and rude answers in their pocket while posting in this thread? Bring positive energy in, with advice and sugestions, and crys of "good luck!"?
If its a team effort, its hardly an effort at all.
the basis of what what we have so far. i know what files need to be edited, this time im sure its [sys/class/leds/button-backlight] in this directory, there are sensor files, a "trigger file"(quite sure this will play a major role) that contains a series of commands that seem to tell the backlights and sensors how and when to act. I'm sure apps like Handcent and Trackball alert mess with the same files (and if not, what do they mess with to make these changes? would installing and taking a look at the permissions be a good place to start?). Anyone know how to get in touch with the devs, or some scource code of an app that affects the trackball? This would be a great start.
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quick rundown of my rom idea's. some of you read my MAJOR INTERNAL MEMORY ISSUE thread, which you all rose magnificently to the occasion, and I couldnt be happier. It was true team work, something I know we can do if we just unite like we did yesterday. You all solved my problem, and have proven to me the members of XDA are capable of anything, especially when united.
the fact is, damages latest leaks are the best platform to build upon, as when the final release surfaces, and we get an official RUU, it will work truely flawlessly. so this is most certainly what we need to base the app off of at first, as its the only one with the closest trackball fix. if darch and flipz n fresh all want to encorporate it into their ROMS, they more than entitled too, as I hope to get help from them in certain areas. my issue with the latest sprint leak: the OS is so big, it leaves you with barely any internal memory, and you pretty much have no choice but to use a2sd. ive never had to use a2sd on my hero, and this is disppointing (damage, this is NOT a shot at you, its a fact, one I plan on helping you adress. im in the middle of working on a cleaner foundation for you to work on). the rom will be fully "sensable" with some tweaks like that of no other. i will build on the foundation you've laid, to create a new foundation for you to build on (once more leaks surface)
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im off for the day, except for occasionaly visits on my Hero, so please feel free to comment. I'm looking for someone to help build this app, so anyone with app programming skills, PM your GTALK and we can chat about idea's. in the meantime, maybe someone knows a open scource app that would allow us to build off?
dear damage, darch, and flipz, please PM me your GTALK if your interested...although I could understand if your too busy with your ROMS, I dont mind taking on the load, as long as I have your support, and can ask for help. i will not cross the line and ask for the RUU's you've been getting damage, but I would love to hear your plans for future releases, whether or not you might be interested in using my app and perhaps help developing it.
c.a.l.i.n.g. a.l.l. d.e.v.s.
It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
mrbook said:
It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
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a quick search in damages.thread (which i hate doing, his threads fill so fast.and questions get buried, right along with the answer) gave me the same conclusion. but the fact is, i want a constant trackball led, and im sure if people had the option, more people would want it too. most view it as a minimal bug, so dont bother. i guess, for me, the other bugs are so minimal that the trackballs led has become the biggest issue.
could someone please help? i spend alot of time on here helping as much as i can, id really appreciate it if someone with the same desired goal could devote some time to it. id be willing to help in any manner.
im sitting in my basement with all the lights out posting this, just to spend time with my long lost tb led.
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
chfields said:
I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
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yes ive been playing with the power control widget since first flash. no joy. thanks for the idea, have anymore?
anyone?
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Trackball Alert
There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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yeah ive seen the app. i will make sure to do that, i hope the brits want to help.
im sure us on xda.could find a solution, however.
i really hope sprint doesnt plan on releasing 2.1 like this. id be sorely disappointed.
Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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i exchanged a pm woth regaw, who is working closely with damage in building and testing the leaks. he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
anyone have any clue what.xml file defines when and how the tb lights up?
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he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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i comletely understand what you mean, and whole heartidly agree. damage is getting these leaks from someone and simply modifying for beytter performance, and working out the bugs sprint hasnt quite got ironed out yet.
but!
originally, these 2.1 roms were based on the eris and legend leaks, meaning the devs have a sound understanding of taking the given software and rewriting it to work on the sprint network/our hardware
it can be done, a simple edit of an xml file, and if we team up, i see no reason it couldnt be done, and rather easily at that.
i dp regret i have no knowledge in this regard, but i know its a patch alot of peoe would jump on and definatly appreciate. damage and all the rest are artists, maybe its time we give baxk, ya know? i wish i could be more of a help, but for.now, all i can do it bring the devs together in hopes to make a speedy and stable patch.
if any devs are reading this, i just want you to know us here at xda do appreciate your work, and i hope us joes.can give back in someway.
i guess edits dont bump lol
sooo...
ahem
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can someone help?
is no one awake?
its fridaaaaay!
im off for the night...any late night noobs or pros wanna take a look, you can easily use root explorer to view and edit the files, hopefully youll have more luck than i have (remember its a xml file!)
sys/class/leds/button-backlight/
gnite
correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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okokokok, let me take a look
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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dammit, i was just trying to sleep.
i was told the file we need is an xml file, and i dont see any in there. HOWEVER; i do see lights.msm7k.so
and sensors.goldfish.so/sensors.heroc.so
which one should i look at first?
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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i was wondering what those two were also...no idea
i DO know the file we need to fix is xlm file...should be just a change of a command (or perhaps an addon) but i dont see a single xlm in the entire system/ folder...
suggestions?
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JACxHEROSki-v2.1
http://www.justanotherdev.slackdev.com
= does in this ROM it has the "Skip" button when signing in?
'Core' download link:
http://content.modaco.net/Hero/2.2-update-...core-signed.zip
= also in this ROM?
= just wanted to be sure coz my G1 isn't activated yet. i can't use wifi to sign-in to google i can only use whn i got skipped on that step.
Well, if you bang the phone against your head a few times anything is possible
I heard you can also open the terminal that way also
It will also make you invisible, quick go into the girl's locker room to see if it worked
all adp based roms (confirmed) and all hero roms (to my knowledge) have the ability to skip past the activation.
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Well, if you bang the phone against your head a few times anything is possible
I heard you can also open the terminal that way also
It will also make you invisible, quick go into the girl's locker room to see if it worked
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you really have stopped answering questions lol
hint
Instead of hitting the new thread button, try the search one
I won't be a complete **** the whole time
Yes all hero roms allow you to skip sign in and will allow you to use wi-fi
You could have easily found that out by going back a few threads
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Instead of hitting the new thread button, try the search one
I won't be a complete **** the whole time
Yes all hero roms allow you to skip sign in and will allow you to use wi-fi
You could have easily found that out by going back a few threads
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bbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttttt gridlock............. its sooooo hard to search...... it involves using my brain to a minimal extent and also it means i have to do stuff like look........... also i have to think............. and to top it all off there are mean people on xda that will don't want to be kind and polite and answer my questions.......... imma gonna go cry in a corner now
You just get to the point david when the same ?s have been asked some many times which could have easily been answered in the same amount of time it took to post a new thread.that you just get cynical, plus it doesn't help that I have bad influances and a couple drinks in me
Ps I did answer the ?
i wish i had a few drinks in me.... and trust me i know the feeling... some nights i am just happier then others (it shows when you see how much of an ass i am to people) like tonight i found some sweet custom shapes for photoshop that got me thinking of a new theme so i am happy tonight
I must say that I have noticed a huge slowdown of stupid and repeative questions since codina, supreme and me have been hijacking threads out the ass, easily getting the post numbers up to over 100 before we get bored or have them locked
Ain't that the truth, since I don't got a computer now more I can't be making anything plus I am too lazy to learn how to make a theme, **** even set up adb, I won't be making any, any time time soon. One of these days I will learn, maybe even make my own rom but it prob won't be any time soon. I tried to pick up coding but I just can't keep interest, I understand it but I ger bored. At least I can say I did my homework how how android works and the understanding of linux helps.
I need to gain some hacker friends though, since the one I got now is unreliable
I needed to track down some info earlier and hit a brick wall, plus I wanna know how to track someone phone or at least the general area they are in
I'm posting this in the Development section because that is what I am trying to learn about. Please move me if I am mis-posting this.
I'm greatly interested in the the Roms people are making and everything that is being done on these forums. If someone wanted to start to learn about these things, developing and such, where should they start? Do I need to learn Java? Are there certain books I should be reading?
I can flash my phone like its my day job now, and I haven't come across any major problems I couldn't solve by reading, but I have no idea where to start to be able to develop things myself. If any developers here could maybe throw out a few tips on how to get started, what someone should focus on learning, etc., it would be greatly appreciated! I have plenty of time and a great desire to learn so I'm not intimidated by having to do the work, I just have to have some things to focus on. Thank you in advance for any help/advice you can give me!
I always wanted to know how make roms also I was looking around the internet but couldn't find anything that will describe it step by step word for word.
Maccie
It will be a huge writeup.But im sure someone will do it. I am still learning myself. There are some good topics around but different from what we have now
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I'm posting this in the Development section because that is what I am trying to learn about. Please move me if I am mis-posting this.
I'm greatly interested in the the Roms people are making and everything that is being done on these forums. If someone wanted to start to learn about these things, developing and such, where should they start? Do I need to learn Java? Are there certain books I should be reading?
I can flash my phone like its my day job now, and I haven't come across any major problems I couldn't solve by reading, but I have no idea where to start to be able to develop things myself. If any developers here could maybe throw out a few tips on how to get started, what someone should focus on learning, etc., it would be greatly appreciated! I have plenty of time and a great desire to learn so I'm not intimidated by having to do the work, I just have to have some things to focus on. Thank you in advance for any help/advice you can give me!
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There are a number of aspects to android development you have to learn to know how to build a full ROM from scratch. C is of course required for kernel building, and apps are built from java in the dalvik-vm, but can be built against sun java.
of course, to get started, you would need the android sdk available here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
then there's the cloning of the android git:
http://android.git.kernel.org/
and, specifically for the captivate, there's the captivate source code:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
then there's pulling off the vendor proprietary libs from your phone (which is a ***** and I believe you can grab them from wes's github, though I can't speak for their accuracy) here:
http://github.com/wesgarner/proprietary_vendor_samsung
building the entire android OS from source is a challenge, especially compensating for some changes Samsung has introduced. this is what a real ROM is. now if you're talking about "ROM"s like Cognition and Shep's and even Eugene's Hybrid/Frankin-Twiz... they aren't comparable. Not to belittle any of their efforts, but this is simple "drag and drop" from stuff built by Samsung. While they're very useful tools, there is little actual development going on in them. There are improvements and tweaks, for sure... but it isn't a *true* ROM. All these releases by DesignGears, Eugene, and Shep are good and effective, but it'd be a shame if they weren't because they are just files thrown together from Samsung's already compiled ROM(s). Even the AOSP Beta 3 (which I have a qualm with the name, because it isn't actually AOSP, it's files pulled from an already built AOSP tossed onto Samsung's ROM again) is just modifying binaries (decompile, edit, recompile).
for those, it's as simple as extracting the zip, replacing the files you want, and rezip it. modifying the update-script inside meta-inf if there's something you want to add.
Awesome post Kaik, thanks, I was wondering some of those too.
Thx that explained a bunch
Maccie
Thank you for taking the time to post that Kaik! It's nice to have a place to start! Anyone else have any tips or things they think might be good to check out?
last, but certainly not least and I can't believe I forgot this, is Unhelpful's toolchain to compile against:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761923
he did a lot of testing with various combinations, and this was the best he found to reduce wakeup lag and other issues
Wow. Kaik. That was the most awesome response to that question I have ever seen. Most people just point to developer.android.com and say go learn to program and come back in 5 years.
Thank you for this very useful information. Your the man now dog.
johnyhoffman said:
Most people just point to developer.android.com and say go learn to program and come back in 5 years.
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Devs are not being mean or pissy, they are being honest and realistic. If development was just "point and click" XDA would not even be here. Give the devs/veterans a break and take it upon yourself to learn the basics and do some searches, if you are that interested.
I would love to just start making my own Android OS just the way I like too but to do that will require much more reading and learning, trying and failing.
You will probably not find "the answer" you are looking for but if you search, read and most importantly, respect the time, energy and anguish people have put into this site you will find the means to get where you want.
Otherwise you can expect... "Let me just glance and peek to see how to do this. Damn what the hell does that mean? Oh well here is a modded ROM. I'll try that. Jeez, that sucks. How do I make my own? Let me just glance and peek to see how to do this. Damn what the hell does that mean? Oh well ..." It is an endless cycle.
I'm not saying this to belittle anyone. Most have been there, including myself. I say this as a vote of confidence to all.
Hang in there, do the work, break some phones, read some books. Really! You have to!
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Devs are not being mean or pissy, they are being honest and realistic. If development was just "point and click" XDA would not even be here. Give the devs/veterans a break and take it upon yourself to learn the basics and do some searches, if you are that interested.
I would love to just start making my own Android OS just the way I like too but to do that will require much more reading and learning, trying and failing.
You will probably not find "the answer" you are looking for but if you search, read and most importantly, respect the time, energy and anguish people have put into this site you will find the means to get where you want.
Otherwise you can expect... "Let me just glance and peek to see how to do this. Damn what the hell does that mean? Oh well here is a modded ROM. I'll try that. Jeez, that sucks. How do I make my own? Let me just glance and peek to see how to do this. Damn what the hell does that mean? Oh well ..." It is an endless cycle.
I'm not saying this to belittle anyone. Most have been there, including myself. I say this as a vote of confidence to all.
Hang in there, do the work, break some phones, read some books. Really! You have to!
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this times one thousand. I linked you guys to some very useful sites when it comes to actually putting android together... but understanding how it all works, actually getting a successful build, fixing bugs, etc... I can't even begin to pretend to be able to help with that. if you have little to no experience in C and Java, these things will basically be useless to you. dev's aren't being mean when they brush you off like that, but usually if you can't figure out how to google what to do with the code, they don't have high hopes for what you'll be able to do with it once you find the code.
the idea isn't to be like "f*** off" when they say that, it's more of a "we'll help you when you learn, but you're the one who needs to take the first steps and you need to take the responsibility of learning on yourself."
I was actually referring to the fact that someone like me, a hobbyist programmer for about 10 years now, can make sense of his reply and use it to go forth and actually do something. Most of the guides you find on here that are supposedly pointed at noobs, do not layout things as easily as his post did.
Wasn't criticizing anyone, but I have seen less patience nowadays for any posts such as these.
Was just saying it was a gem of a post for me personally. Maybe it doesn't help the ultra noobs and the more experienced people see it as useless, but for someone with little time right now, it was a perfect post for me.
Okay, so thanks to some members for helping me find this homescreen replacement. However, I have searched for hours looking for some kind of mod for this thing, and I haven't found a one. Is it not possible to manually tweak settings like color, for instance? I can't believe this UI isn't as hyped as I find it to be.
So, can we get some devs on this to give us some tweaks and start a thread?
I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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Yeah, but I think the requests are falling on deaf ears. Multiple people are saying over in their forums are saying they are simply doing compatibility updates now. I thought some Devs here at XDA could take matters into their own hands. But I just don't think there are enough people interested in it, you know? At the time of this post, 395 views of this thread and only one reply. Supply and demand, we need more people to speak up!
Very true. I'm gonna hang on to the free version for a while and see what happens. Time will tell.
I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I have no idea. It seem's that it would be, but then again, people are porting SENSE over to non-HTC devices as well, so who knows? I don't know if the free version is open source or not.
I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo.
I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot.
Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo.
I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media.
I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed.
Can anyone help?
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I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo.
I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot.
Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo.
I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media.
I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed.
Can anyone help?
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Samsung Theme's have nothing to do with what you want to accomplish.. It sounds to me like you don't fully understand what's involved with trying to do what you're asking for.. First of all you'll have to root the phone possibly voiding it's warranty just to get to the files you'd have to replace to begin with and if you don't fully understand what you're trying to do you could possibly turn your phone into a paperweight! You might want to do some research before trying to do what you're asking for..
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Samsung Theme's have nothing to do with what you want to accomplish.. It sounds to me like you don't fully understand what's involved with trying to do what you're asking for.. First of all you'll have to root the phone possibly voiding it's warranty just to get to the files you'd have to replace to begin with and if you don't fully understand what you're trying to do you could possibly turn your phone into a paperweight! You might want to do some research before trying to do what you're asking for..
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Yeah dude, don't over think it. I'm way way way WAY past a simple rooting. I've installed 100s of roms just not messed with themes very much beyond the occasional bootanimation.zip placement.
But, a piece of advice, next time just say "i don't know" because you really didn't answer my question, you were about as far away from what i asked for as an answer could get. I explained that i checked out the Samsung theme editor, not that i expected it to work. It was just a step i went through.
If i didn't know anything about theming, at all, i wouldn't know about the extension or placement area i mentioned and since you didn't really give any answer of note (beyond a generic warning that's been in every root and rom since the beginning of time) i'm thinking you don't either...
Please, don't give your idea of "help" any further.
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Yeah dude, don't over think it. I'm way way way WAY past a simple rooting. I've installed 100s of roms just not messed with themes very much beyond the occasional bootanimation.zip placement.
But, a piece of advice, next time just say "i don't know" because you really didn't answer my question, you were about as far away from what i asked for as an answer could get. I explained that i checked out the Samsung theme editor, not that i expected it to work. It was just a step i went through.
If i didn't know anything about theming, at all, i wouldn't know about the extension or placement area i mentioned and since you didn't really give any answer of note (beyond a generic warning that's been in every root and rom since the beginning of time) i'm thinking you don't either...
Please, don't give your idea of "help" any further.
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Then maybe you should have thought more about what you were saying in your first post and possibly included some other information about how smart you are but yet you can't figure out what the screen dimensions for the phone are? But I stand by what I said Samsungs Theme's having nothing to do with the boot animation at all.. And if you're so great at flashing roms.. Uh wow "claps" that's taking others work and dropping it on to an SD and tapping flash.. SO so hard!! Try building your own rom and kernel from scratch! Since you wanted to act all tough I'm not even going to give you the answer and yes I damn well do know the answer I've been a developer since way back in the day when WebTVs were the thing! And if this is how you're going to act towards developers of other people on here, then don't expect much help now! I'm sure you can figure it out Mr 100s of rom flashes!
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Then maybe you should have thought more about what you were saying in your first post and possibly included some other information about how smart you are but yet you can't figure out what the screen dimensions for the phone are? But I stand by what I said Samsungs Theme's having nothing to do with the boot animation at all.. And if you're so great at flashing roms.. Uh wow "claps" that's taking others work and dropping it on to an SD and tapping flash.. SO so hard!! Try building your own rom and kernel from scratch! Since you wanted to act all tough I'm not even going to give you the answer and yes I damn well do know the answer I've been a developer since way back in the day when WebTVs were the thing! And if this is how you're going to act towards developers of other people on here, then don't expect much help now! I'm sure you can figure it out Mr 100s of rom flashes!
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Say it with me one more time, just so you realize it ..... "You don't know"....You can wax and waste people's time ALL day long with your big talk but the straight truth is:
If you would have had the answer, you would have posted it.
I already got it, from someone who actually could answer the question. "He" didn't have any trouble with my request, at all, and had it summed up in a small paragraph.
So i guess that makes you the "special" person here...
Don't bother wasting space with a reply, "unsubscribe" was created for a-holes like you wanna talk big but can't come up with the answer. But then again people like you probably get off on posting to yourself anyway.
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Say it with me one more time, just so you realize it ..... "You don't know"....You can wax and waste people's time ALL day long with your big talk but the straight truth is:
If you would have had the answer, you would have posted it.
I already got it, from someone who actually could answer the question. "He" didn't have any trouble with my request, at all, and had it summed up in a small paragraph.
So i guess that makes you the "special" person here...
Don't bother wasting space with a reply, "unsubscribe" was created for a-holes like you wanna talk big but can't come up with the answer. But then again people like you probably get off on posting to yourself anyway.
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Lol.. You aren't getting under my skin little man.. I can reply wherever I want!! This isn't YouTube where you tap unsubscribe lmfao!!! You only have less than 50 post and you're going to come to xda with your mister know it all attitude and tell me what I do and don't know?! I have the answer to what you want to do and it's definitely in /system/media but good luck getting it to work (the right way).
If you would have replied nicely and asked nicely like other people on here do I would have showed you how to convert the files you and other stuff you needed but not interested now.. And if you think I'm so dumb and don't know nothing, I just wrote an entire page and a half just for the Galaxy S6 owners to root their phones! And Why? Because someone asked nicely!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72647478#post72647478
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I've got an N920t and i would love to put a simple 1st boot screen and add my company name and number to it so, if it's stolen, the average person won't have a CLUE how to get rid of the logo. I would also like to be able to change a cool animated GIF into the animation that pops up after the initial boot. Lastly, i would like a decent shut-down logo. I've downloaded Samsung's theme editor and it looks like i was created for the "yesterday" phones. I know where the qmg files are in the system/media. I just don't know 1) The screen dimensions 2) the conversion process of whatever to qmg. 3) whatever else i may have missed. Can anyone help?
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1) This conversation is so petty I'm not even sure why I'm responding to it.
2) Creating a boot animation for Samsung has EVERYTHING to do with Samsung Theme Designer.
3) Here is my tutorial for this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63963738
4) Ignore the fact that the program looks old school. If you read my tutorial you'll see how that doesn't matter at all.
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1) This conversation is so petty I'm not even sure why I'm responding to it.
2) Creating a boot animation for Samsung has EVERYTHING to do with Samsung Theme Designer.
3) Here is my tutorial for this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63963738
4) Ignore the fact that the program looks old school. If you read my tutorial you'll see how that doesn't matter at all.
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Well, i appreciate a straight-forward answer.
I reacted to the other guy the way i did because of his condescending attitude and the fact that he obviously didn't know but went out of his way to give a false impression of "knowledge" in the matter. Personally, i can't stand people who answer with useless information, have an attitude, and waste my time trying to "look" big...i appreciate you "not" being that kind of person.
You're right, it's petty, but sometimes it's necessary because (over the years) i've noticed these forums have become a home for "some" who seem to devote time to not giving people a straight answer and have a superiority complex doing it. Also, the douche bag had the arrogance to "label" me because i didn't post a lot on the forums, probably the biggest ignorance here to assume a person isn't knowledgeable about anything because they don't make a lot of noise in the forums.
It's like i've said from the jump....the guy who knows simply gives the straight answer.
Since that's what i really needed i'll just unsub the thread so i don't have to deal with him spouting any further.
Again, thanks.
Please keep it civil guys. No need to go mad. If you are annoyed by someone, please add them to your ignore list and move on.
No need to be disrespectful. The Forum Rulesforum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 clearly state
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Actually, there isn't anything in the system partition that pertains to the initial graphic shown when the phone starts, that's actually part of the partition known as param, which is little more than a tar archive that's been written to the block device that is designated as PARAM directly. You can use dd to dump it and untar the resulting file with, you guessed it, tar. The images within the archive are png format, but you have to be careful to pay close attention to the very specific palette and compression used in the original images because if you fail to match it exactly then you run the very real risk of rendering the device bricked in an unrecoverable way as the only way to write the PARAM partition is via an environment where you can access dd, or any other utility that is capable of performing direct read and write to block devices, which is either a custom recovery or the running system itself and since it holds the logo shown immediately upon starting the device before the kernel itself or recovery then making a mistake is not an option. Said archive also holds the graphics for download mode as well as the battery image shown prior to the charging animation, which is loaded by the kernel and is a low power mode that partially boots the device and stops just before zygote is brought up, which is the base of the GUI if you were unaware. I've successfully modified every single image in the archive itself and I'd be glad to upload proof to that end as soon as I can borrow another device to capture the result with as I've only got my phone on hand at the moment. I can provide you with more detailed steps, specifically the arguments I used with the convert command from ImageMagick to ensure the image palette and compression were correct since I couldn't get GIMP to save the edited images with the necessary options.
As far as the qmg files, there are several tutorials on the forums that do a great job of detailing that process, but it requires access to a Windows machine as Samsung doesn't see fit to develop a cross-platform tool. Having said that, this is all under the assumption that you're familiar with Linux and a couple of common utilities within it, I don't use Windows save for audio production and the occasional Octoplus unlock, so I can't offer quite as precise information on performing the steps I've mentioned from that environment. I'll go ahead and dig up the arguments I mentioned for the convert utility and post them since I don't recall them from memory as I did this a few months ago. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing and what I'm talking about and the first order of your request is most definitely possible though I've yet to have ever encountered any instruction on it or even mention of it until now aside from my own venture into that scary process.
It's worth noting that your idea of deterring theft is sound only if the thief would try to sell it and only if the buyer was a noble person, and most thieves don't keep company with good people so it would be something they got a chuckle out of at worst and a minor annoyance at best. Consider how many items must be stolen that have been engraved or otherwise marked and are sold without much ado over it, if they want to steal it they will and not think twice over it. Just my two cents there.
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Actually, there isn't anything in the system partition that pertains to the initial graphic shown when the phone starts, that's actually part of the partition known as param, which is little more than a tar archive that's been written to the block device that is designated as PARAM directly. You can use dd to dump it and untar the resulting file with, you guessed it, tar. The images within the archive are png format, but you have to be careful to pay close attention to the very specific palette and compression used in the original images because if you fail to match it exactly then you run the very real risk of rendering the device bricked in an unrecoverable way as the only way to write the PARAM partition is via an environment where you can access dd, or any other utility that is capable of performing direct read and write to block devices, which is either a custom recovery or the running system itself and since it holds the logo shown immediately upon starting the device before the kernel itself or recovery then making a mistake is not an option. Said archive also holds the graphics for download mode as well as the battery image shown prior to the charging animation, which is loaded by the kernel and is a low power mode that partially boots the device and stops just before zygote is brought up, which is the base of the GUI if you were unaware. I've successfully modified every single image in the archive itself and I'd be glad to upload proof to that end as soon as I can borrow another device to capture the result with as I've only got my phone on hand at the moment. I can provide you with more detailed steps, specifically the arguments I used with the convert command from ImageMagick to ensure the image palette and compression were correct since I couldn't get GIMP to save the edited images with the necessary options.
As far as the qmg files, there are several tutorials on the forums that do a great job of detailing that process, but it requires access to a Windows machine as Samsung doesn't see fit to develop a cross-platform tool. Having said that, this is all under the assumption that you're familiar with Linux and a couple of common utilities within it, I don't use Windows save for audio production and the occasional Octoplus unlock, so I can't offer quite as precise information on performing the steps I've mentioned from that environment. I'll go ahead and dig up the arguments I mentioned for the convert utility and post them since I don't recall them from memory as I did this a few months ago. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing and what I'm talking about and the first order of your request is most definitely possible though I've yet to have ever encountered any instruction on it or even mention of it until now aside from my own venture into that scary process.
It's worth noting that your idea of deterring theft is sound only if the thief would try to sell it and only if the buyer was a noble person, and most thieves don't keep company with good people so it would be something they got a chuckle out of at worst and a minor annoyance at best. Consider how many items must be stolen that have been engraved or otherwise marked and are sold without much ado over it, if they want to steal it they will and not think twice over it. Just my two cents there.
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Yeah, i had some luck with Odin based flashing of the initial boot screen but haven't had a lot of time to play around with it. I just enjoy customizing the phone to the point to where (if anyone steals it) there's no doubt it's mine. I can walk in and say "It does this on boot" without even looking and i've done that in the past and it's worked out great with reclaiming a stolen phone. The more customized you make it, the harder it is for the pawn-shop owner to argue it's not yours (and they WILL try). I've had to bring the authorities in. "Noble" is not a word that most pawn-shop owners seem to know
It's just odd how these phones change their structure so much that general "boot animation" apps have no effect on them at all.
Thanks for the info.
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Yeah, i had some luck with Odin based flashing of the initial boot screen but haven't had a lot of time to play around with it. I just enjoy customizing the phone to the point to where (if anyone steals it) there's no doubt it's mine. I can walk in and say "It does this on boot" without even looking and i've done that in the past and it's worked out great with reclaiming a stolen phone. The more customized you make it, the harder it is for the pawn-shop owner to argue it's not yours (and they WILL try). I've had to bring the authorities in. "Noble" is not a word that most pawn-shop owners seem to know
It's just odd how these phones change their structure so much that general "boot animation" apps have no effect on them at all.
Thanks for the info.
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The easiest way I've found is RomToolbox pro.
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The easiest way I've found is RomToolbox pro.
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Yup, had it for a long time. But it seems to have no effect on my phone since i got Nougat. In fact, "none" of the usual apps seem to work. Must be a new set of rules. The only ways i've seen them change are by Odin and that rom installer (Aroma, isn't it?) that everyone is so fond of.
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Yup, had it for a long time. But it seems to have no effect on my phone since i got Nougat. In fact, "none" of the usual apps seem to work. Must be a new set of rules. The only ways i've seen them change are by Odin and that rom installer (Aroma, isn't it?) that everyone is so fond of.
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Huh, I haven't changed mine since switching to nougat. The custom logo hasn't changed from before the upgrade. Thanks for the info.
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Before I start saying anything and before anyone starts ranting or fighting or whatever I want to make one thing crispy clear: I don't want, under any circumstances, to fight or argue in any way with other developers, contributors, users, whatsoever nor do I want to claim anything as correct. I am anytime ready to accept it if I am proven wrong for anything. Show me a proof against what I said and I will accept it. I'm not claiming anything to be right what I'm saying, but as long as it is not proven wrong I'm assuming it is right. Of course some statements base on assumptions and guesses, hence there is no reason for ranting about something particular I said that I am not entirely sure of. I just want to get this out because it has been sitting inside of me for a while and this is the only way I can get it out without offending or insulting anyone.
A statement from my side regarding TWRP and ROMs for the OP5:
I have seen many device trees so far, and the "official" TWRP as well and I'm pretty disappointed to see people not wanting to work together. Of course there are exceptions, for example I have been working together with @benschhold and @gtpitch on TWRP as well as on ROMs and it has been a pretty good experience so far. But I have also seen @Dees_Troy releasing his own TWRP. I tried to contact him and whoever is behind TWRP earlier to get a working TWRP up and running and official. No response. At least I haven't seen anything. I am anytime ready to work together and build working stuff, but I'm not ready to see something that is exactly the same as I did (his TWRP literally has the same, if not more, issues than mine, as far as user reports have told us) and releases it as an official product which should have been tested and does not even fix the issues we have so far.
I know mine is unofficial and I have stated nowhere that this would be official but if you check the sources used for my recovery as well as take the user reports into consideration you will notice that none of the issues we currently have on the now latest recovery image, that is version 72, have been fixed in either mine or his recovery. I would have liked to work together with developers to build a stable, fully working custom recovery with as many parts of it totally free and open-sourced for anyone to inspect. Regarding authorship, I'm anytime ready to correct authors in case they are wrong. What I am not ready for is seeing others taking my work and putting it under their own authorship so that nobody will know about what I did and instead honor the non-existent work of others misleadingly causing the community to think I would have stolen the work from others.
As I already said, I am open to any corrections regarding this.
Another aspect is the custom ROM section. While it's all good and fine to see ROMs coming out for the OP5, none of these are actually stable and fully tested. They might have been flashed and booted up and roughly checked for functionality but not actually tested for quality (not claiming anything here). I really can see a race between ROMs, maybe even a war, everyone perhaps even stealing the work of each other and claiming to be first but of course saying it's super highly experimental and whatsoever.
Why is this happening? I know I have very low reputation for saying anything in this matter, even though I am lead developer and co-founder of a ROM. I don't want to claim that anyone stole my work, and I don't want to be showing examples as they might not even be right because some things can really be done by anyone without seeing what others did. But still, everyone is racing against each other, except for a few ROMs, and trying to say hey yo we brought this rom out for jellyburger super fast and we are the best... blablabla, whatsoever, make sure to decrypt, make sure not to do this not to do that, note this doesn't work.... I guess y'all get the point.
Why do people work against each other and not together? Just trying to be the best, the first, whatsoever? I mean it's cool when you are first and best but it's not cool pretending to be so and in reality just having taken a WIP tree from whatever github profile you just went on and saying your ROM is the first, while in reality you actually don't have any idea about what you are doing. Guys, really.... I appreciate when people do in fact help bringing up custom roms for the OP5, I admit that I also take advantage of that for building my own rom, but I also try to improve it, contribute to it, to make sure others have access to my work and using it without changing authorship. Of course many developers e. g. copy whole directories into their device tree instead of getting the whole commit history in, and, to some extent, that is more or less acceptable, because there is no really convenient way of doing so, but at least, when picking individual commits, do keep authorship. Thanks for your understanding and I hope this community does not become corrupted.
I'm open for a peaceful discussion in this thread, let's get it started!
Cheeseburger developers and testers who can provide logs shall join https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEN_kkG6_WJe8IlG2Q
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Cheeseburger developers and testers who can provide logs shall join https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEN_kkG6_WJe8IlG2Q
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Is not a bad beginning, but there actually is a dev group, so in case anyone wants to work together with each other, let me know. (Developers only)
Sad but true how many ROMs for the op5 have there source in the op?
Surely it's better for all of us to work collectively towards building a better base
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Sad but true how many ROMs for the op5 have there source in the op?
Surely it's better for all of us to work collectively towards building a better base
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Trees don't have to be equal but everyone should share contributions and help each other.
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Trees don't have to be equal but everyone should share contributions and help each other.
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The general issue here is we all work opensource even if they are official teamwin they could just copycated your changes(im not saying this just assuming), dont want to insult anyone here but thats how it goes opensource projects are open and you cant change this, on the other hand they could actually start working on it legitely even if your recorvery is pretty stable(i would say 99%) they started it before but were able to get it to same point but later. As for now we need more developers in kernel section but i see you doing a good job keep it up my dude. :good:
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The general issue here is we all work opensource even if they are official teamwin they could just copycated your changes(im not saying this just assuming), dont want to insult anyone here but thats how it goes opensource projects are open and you cant change this, on the other hand they could actually start working on it legitely even if your recorvery is pretty stable(i would say 99%) they started it before but were able to get it to same point but later. As for now we need more developers in kernel section but i see you doing a good job keep it up my dude. :good:
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The point is that it seems to be that they don't even care about their users. Don't quote me on that, as it might be wrong, but it seems to be that they simply just want to look down on other developers and be the big guys.
While I try to provide good support as much as possible, and release all my changes mostly individually, he simply gave it out once and every now and then might eventually look at the last 5 posts and maybe answer. I mean... I know he probably has alot of work to do but still. Released something officially without even checking for bugs. They say they make sure they provide quality but I can't see the quality there.
And for the other thing you mentioned... Most of the things they have in their tree really seem to be something that has been around for a longer time, but not actually made by themselves and just committed recently:
I don't really know why everyone tells to.keep authorship and maintaining a commit history and what not but end up simply copy and pasting the whole tree and commit that at once. Whatever. If this doesn't stop soon, I will start thinking about whether it is really worth doing this because from my point of view this is just looking down on me and releasing something that does not even work quite as well just to keep me away. I know I might be wrong anytime but this is what it feels like.
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The point is that it seems to be that they don't even care about their users. Don't quote me on that, as it might be wrong, but it seems to be that they simply just want to look down on other developers and be the big guys.
While I try to provide good support as much as possible, and release all my changes mostly individually, he simply gave it out once and every now and then might eventually look at the last 5 posts and maybe answer. I mean... I know he probably has alot of work to do but still. Released something officially without even checking for bugs. They say they make sure they provide quality but I can't see the quality there.
And for the other thing you mentioned... Most of the things they have in their tree really seem to be something that has been around for a longer time, but not actually made by themselves and just committed recently:
I don't really know why everyone tells to.keep authorship and maintaining a commit history and what not but end up simply copy and pasting the whole tree and commit that at once. Whatever. If this doesn't stop soon, I will start thinking about whether it is really worth doing this because from my point of view this is just looking down on me and releasing something that does not even work quite as well just to keep me away. I know I might be wrong anytime but this is what it feels like.
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The next thing here is we shouldn't really assume anything cuz it might be making us look stupid, i would generally say to not care about what they do and i can say that most phones i had, used twrp from users there was no official ones and even if there was it wasn't functioning like other.
Right now how i see it is they opened a thread and called it official(i don't remember if they called it stable) and most users like official stuff so this generally looks funny from your pov, from mine too as i am self called open source developer and i know general ideas behind being open.
The only issue here i can see is that he doesn't respond to you soo it looks bad i really wouldn't assume anything cuz it can piss off a few ppl that's what i want to generally tell you to kindof watch out on the community around this because it already looks weird. If you want you can pm me with your telegram nickname and ill add you to a group where we work on a kernel fixing a small gelatinous issue some(me included) have. Would be for best if he answered to your pms soo you can have a talk and for now it looks like "stolen" work but at the same time we shouldn't assume stuff, for now i don't really know what to say on this whole matter it really looks quite weird and i don't like it too.
MasterDomino said:
The next thing here is we shouldn't really assume anything cuz it might be making us look stupid, i would generally say to not care about what they do and i can say that most phones i had, used twrp from users there was no official ones and even if there was it wasn't functioning like other.
Right now how i see it is they opened a thread and called it official(i don't remember if they called it stable) and most users like official stuff so this generally looks funny from your pov, from mine too as i am self called open source developer and i know general ideas behind being open.
The only issue here i can see is that he doesn't respond to you soo it looks bad i really wouldn't assume anything cuz it can piss off a few ppl that's what i want to generally tell you to kindof watch out on the community around this because it already looks weird. If you want you can pm me with your telegram nickname and ill add you to a group where we work on a kernel fixing a small gelatinous issue some(me included) have. Would be for best if he answered to your pms soo you can have a talk and for now it looks like "stolen" work but at the same time we shouldn't assume stuff, for now i don't really know what to say on this whole matter it really looks quite weird and i don't like it too.
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Yeah that"s what I thought too but on the other hand, if you don't say anything, then nothing will change. Perhaps it won't change even after saying, but often it does.
You can add me to the telegram group if you want to, pm me the group link and I'll join but I can't promise to constantly be active there throughout the day.
xdvs23 said:
Yeah that"s what I thought too but on the other hand, if you don't say anything, then nothing will change. Perhaps it won't change even after saying, but often it does.
You can add me to the telegram group if you want to, pm me the group link and I'll join but I can't promise to constantly be active there throughout the day.
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tru dat.