capacitive pens are almost useless! - HD2 Accessories

At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?

yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.

stylus
I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.

madmackem said:
htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.

i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41

madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.

Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.

I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin

It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.

try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...

There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD

I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
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kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!

capacitive pens
I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!

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Screen Protectors

What do you guys use / recommend for screen protectors and cleaners?
I use the protectors from ShieldZone. Nothing comes close.
I bought mine through a deal I found on Slickdeals (it's about to expire!)
Check here for info: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=184771&t=712921&highlight=shield
My favorites are the "crystal clear" type from ppcTechs:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...0~area~accessories-WriteSHIELD%AE+crystal.htm
have you tried the front and side protector from shieldzone?
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have you tried the front and side protector from shieldzone?
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i too would be interested in what you use, i.e. just the screen protector or the front and side protectors.
If you have used the front and side protectors could you describe what the coverage is like?
and i have heard that that brand makes it hard to use the stylis, have you had that experience as well?
hmm might have to post pictures of this one...
ordered today 2/2/08 with 50% off via slickdeals. I got them for my mogul and my Panasonic Toughbook cf-19. [bad ass they had one for it.] Cant wait to see if this product stands up to it's advertised quality.
goalkeepr said:
I use the protectors from ShieldZone. Nothing comes close.
I bought mine through a deal I found on Slickdeals (it's about to expire!)
Check here for info: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=184771&t=712921&highlight=shield
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Are those shield zone one's like clearview? are they hard to the touch like screen material itself? i dont like the ones that are soft and sort of compress when you hit with the stylus
morganlowe said:
hmm might have to post pictures of this one...
ordered today 2/2/08 with 50% off via slickdeals. I got them for my mogul and my Panasonic Toughbook cf-19. [bad ass they had one for it.] Cant wait to see if this product stands up to it's advertised quality.
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so did you get just the screen protectors or the front and side covers as well? I would love to see close ups of the front and side protector. cant seem to find any info or pics of them anywhere.
i got just the screen protector... it is nice, but tricky to get on at first. i don't really notice it when using the stylus. in some light i see a orange peal like affect. since it took me about three tries to get it in position and all the air bubles out there it isn't perfectly clean on the unexposed side. but it works.
Just order it at brando. To my opinion the best there are. Ultra clear is the one I like the most.
Link
Search for exim spuc or exim spoc on ebay. They're hard screen protectors that are residue free, and almost scratch-proof, stylus and pocket-wise thinking. (I don't think its as scratch proof as the invisible shield protectors, but isn't soft like a cushioning effect as with invisible shield) They also block out UV rays, making it easier on the eyes in direct sunlight. I've been using it ever since the first of my phone days (Sony Ericsson S700i, Nokia E60i, Nokia E61i, AT&T Tilt, HTC Tytn II, 2x Moguls)
One tip is to put it on in a dust free room...if dust gets on the application side of the protector, use some scotch tape to remove it. Works wonders.
tcolling said:
My favorites are the "crystal clear" type from ppcTechs:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...0~area~accessories-WriteSHIELD%AE+crystal.htm
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How is the anti-glare in the sun? I am curious as I am looking for a new one.
Debating the clear vs anti-glare as I use my phone a good bit outside...
Any updates on any other screen protectors?
JavoScreen claims to be quite effective.
Here's a recent video shootout of leading screen protectors.
I don't recall which brand of antiglare screen I use; it was one of the most expensive ones, and comes with a camel's hair brush. In any event, it does the job EXCEPT in bright sunlight, when it's helpless. I'm thinking that a slip-on polarizer would be welcomed for bright sun.
best ive used
i think this is the same one i last bought, and its the best yet.
http://cgi.ebay.com/H009-3-Screen-P...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
i have tried many, and this one is the best.
no bubbles, perfect fit, and dosnt screw up the screen when removed. i attached a scan of the packaging mine came in below
tought id chime in..
i have had the oem crappy flimsy one for a while now..
was going to buy 3 from ebay for $7 free shipping..
kept on forgetting to go and buy them.. so I walked into verizon... no sprint stores on my walk through philly.... and bought the blackberry universal kit... $10.66 with tax... tell you what.. they are nice and thick....
you can hold it at the corner and it will not bend!!!!
also has a grid for you to cut...
went on super easy.. 0 bubbles... none... and im loving it...
verizon sku UNIV3PKSP

Stupid screen protectors and Air Bubbles

So I had my original Att screen protector on my tilt for over 3 months..then this week I went to the tmobile store and bought screen protectors cuz mine was old and wear and tear set in. Come to find out when I get home and unbox it...its the kind that's not alrdy fitted for the phone screen and you have to cut it out and size it yourself..theirs a reason why like 15 screen pro's come in the box...I nearly went through the whole box trying to use scissors and cutting and itting the stupid things myself...I shoulda went to ATT cuz I think their screen pro's come fitted for touchscreens. Anyway after finally fitting it to my tilts screen..I got another problem, Air f#*king bubbles!....anybody have this issue and figured out how to put on screen pro's without stupid air bubbles?
use a card (credit card, atm, license) and smooth it out little by little when applying
works perfectly for me
The screen protector that came with my Tilt isn't EXACTLY the same size of the screen. I managed to put it on as soon as I had it in my hand (still in-store before paying the guy). The bottom of the screen looks perfect, but at the top of the screen there is a gap of uncovered screen about the 1/16th of an inch. Doesn't bother me though...
The best thing you can do to avoid air bubbles is to buy a quality, reusable screen protector. I bought mine 9 months ago from DayDeal.com, and it still works great. Since it not that super thin plastic, it goes on without any air bubbles. Well worth the $15.
I have ordered the Invisible Shield from http://www.zagg.com/
Haven't got it yet, so I can't share any personal experience, but this was highly recommended on a norwegian PDA forum.
Wow, my screen protector is on it's 10th month and it looks as good as the day I put it on. And it's a $5 cheapy one from Pocket Solutions.
I have been using the JavoScreen Ultra Clear screen protectors for a few years no, and have been very happy. They are completely removable, washable, replaceable without leaving residue; and they do not trap bubbles. Once applied, you literally cannot tell that it's there! They are a few more dollars than some other similar brands, but they are IMHO the best.
I've just given up on them. The glass feels better without one.
squeeze the big ones out by just pushing them off to the side with your fingers. the smaller ones should go away after a few days use.
on a side note, my screen protector that came with the phone SHIFTED somehow, and i cant move it back (well i dont want to peel it off and restick it). odd.
tdusen said:
I've just given up on them. The glass feels better without one.
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same here.
moegdaog said:
So I had my original Att screen protector on my tilt for over 3 months.. Come to find out when I get home and unbox it...its the kind that's not alrdy fitted for the phone screen and you have to cut it out and size it yourself..
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You guys will probably think I'm nuts, but I swear by WriteShield product from PocketPCtechs. Expensive, but worth it. The plastic they use is superior, it's absolutely crystal clear, and it's cut perfectly to fit.
I've experimented with other cheaper products that didn't last or didn't fit right. I've tried the cut-them-yourself products (boxwave) and they didn't work out right for me either. I went right back to the WriteShield and no worries.
At one time, I thought to myself that spending so much on screen protectors was nuts, and what they charge for shipping added insult to injury, but then I put it into perspective. What's it worth to protect a $600 machine? What's it worth to not have to be without the machine while I have my screen serviced and what would the combined cost of the hardware labor and inconvenience be?
I've used them on every PDA I've owned and I'll never look back. I have yet to find a better product out there.
Link is here: CLICKY
Hi,
Someone can say me if WriteShield Screen Protector fit exactly the screen size of the Kaiser without leaving some screen surface unprotected ? Or which one fit exactly the screen's size ?
Thanks in advance
Moo
VTECaddict said:
squeeze the big ones out by just pushing them off to the side with your fingers. the smaller ones should go away after a few days use.
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This
Plus, don't use a card to squeeze out the large bubbles -- I did this once and ended up with scratch marks. Just use your fingers, and the small ones should vanish with time.

HD2 Stylus

has anybody purchased the HD2 stylus yet? the screen may be huge, but I miss using a stylus for texting. I have read really bad reviews, but I do want one.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50
Ordered These
I ordered these, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...849513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2824wt_911 and will let y'all know how they work. Even if they don't, they were only $4.
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
steve austin said:
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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Unfortunately, that is the problem with the capacitive screen. The so-called stylus is actually something that emulates your finger tip in terms of contact area. Personally, a very sensitive resistive screen, such as in Samsung I8000 (Omnia 2) is better than the capacitive screen if you do a lot of text work involving copying, cutting and pasting!

Kensington Virtuoso Touch stylus first thoughts

This one :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...X39I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342685483&sr=8-1
It's very well made and has a good heft to it, feels like quality. I've only been able to test it on my TP as N7 still on the slow boat from Timbuktoo, the TP is not as sensitive as the N7 and pressure sensitive apps don't seem to work on it so more on that when the N7 arrives. That said the stylus is very responsive and the tip does not 'stick' to the screen although I suppose it depends what (if any) screen protector you have and how tacky it is so ymmv.
The pen end is not a gimmick, it takes Parker refills so that's a big plus point, the lid clips on firmly and the pocket clip is very strong but there's nowhere to store the cap when you are using the pen as it won't fit over the stylus tip, that's a minor problem though..
I have only one big gripe but which could be a problem if you intend to use it for long periods, when using the stylus end the balance point is too far back for my liking and the stylus wants to tip back all the time, given it's weight this is noticeable quite quickly. The balance point is a tiny bit forward of the line of the cap joint which is about the two thirds mark. You can ease the problem by taking the cap off the end but that exposes the pen nib with all the dangers of drawing on your hand/clothes as well as the screen.
As I said above, it's a well made piece if kit and well worth the money, I've used a few styluses from checp nasty ones to better quality, this one is by far the best I've used yet even given the balance issue.
I got this as well and am very happy with it! This is my first tablet, so maybe I don't know what a real good stylus is, but it feels really natural to use and I actually prefer it over using my fingers. Plus less smudging and the pen is handy as well
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
Update, Three weeks later and while the stylus is still as good to use, the pen cap is getting loose (rubber O ring a bit thin) which means it can come apart when hung from the clip. Drops a star for that.
Troute said:
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
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There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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My guess....he's using Quill or a similar app which has a tool that somehow manages to mimic pressure sensitivity.
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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I wonder if there's an app that can transfer pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth or WiFi.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
I spoke of pressure sensitive Apps, not the N7 screen. I can't speak for all Apps but Markers is one that responds well to the stylus. I think it may be sensing tip coverage but it goes much further than just the area touched by the stylus (or your finger) try it and you'll see what I mean.
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
Troute said:
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
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I got the silver elago stylus for 10 bucks, made of aluminum, removable soft tip, nice length, width, weight, and it includes an additional soft tip
Sent from my Black "Destroy Mode" Nexus 7
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
Doallyn said:
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
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Mine has become totally unusable now, the tip seems sticky and will not run across the screen smoothly.

MiiKare glass screen protector. ?

So I know how difficult it is to find a good screen protector for the Note 8 at the minute, I've tried a few and sent them all back so far.
I ordered the MiiKare glass screen protector, and am pretty happy with it so I thought I'd share it.
I know it won't be the best, but it's the first one I've found that I'll be keeping on my device.
-Price, £8.99
-Packaging, cheap and chinese
-Fitting, easy;
(I did not use the fitting kit device thing, it was awful)
-Fit, good, allows for a case, could be individual cutouts as opposed to one big cut out.
-Visabilaty, 100% clear, very slight "rainbowing"
-Touch Sensitivity, minimal reduction
-S Pen compatability, very good, seemingly unaffected
It also came with a "leather effect" skin for the back, bit fiddly to apply but fine with a bit of patience, it looks OK, prevents scratches on the back when out of case so I'll keep it on, nothing special.
Link :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074RB6JC1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Zq3gWaWo1yGbW
I completely agree with all the points above. Have used the Miikare tgsp since my handset was released from it's box and no issues so far at all. Would have preferred it to be completely clear as opposed to having black bars top and bottom, but otherwise great for the price ?
Nixher said:
So I know how difficult it is to find a good screen protector for the Note 8 at the minute, I've tried a few and sent them all back so far.
I ordered the MiiKare glass screen protector, and am pretty happy with it so I thought I'd share it.
I know it won't be the best, but it's the first one I've found that I'll be keeping on my device.
-Price, £8.99
-Packaging, cheap and chinese
-Fitting, easy;
(I did not use the fitting kit device thing, it was awful)
-Fit, good, allows for a case, could be individual cutouts as opposed to one big cut out.
-Visabilaty, 100% clear, very slight "rainbowing"
-Touch Sensitivity, minimal reduction
-S Pen compatability, very good, seemingly unaffected
It also came with a "leather effect" skin for the back, bit fiddly to apply but fine with a bit of patience, it looks OK, prevents scratches on the back when out of case so I'll keep it on, nothing special.
Link :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074RB6JC1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Zq3gWaWo1yGbW
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When you say "minimal reduction" about the touch sensitivity, do you have to press harder for it to detect input? Specially at the center areas?
gretschpr said:
When you say "minimal reduction" about the touch sensitivity, do you have to press harder for it to detect input? Specially at the center areas?
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I use s pen probably 90% of the time im using the phone and can honestly say I have no issue on any part of the screen, barely have to touch it and it works perfectly. I did ever so slightly misalign the protector on install though and when using my finger at the top and top corners I do find I sometimes have to press a bit firmer but nothing I'd say was frustrating as it's not that often an issue for me (probably just compounded by the fact my finger or thumb is already reaching for that part of the screen and pressing lighter than I do lower on the screen). Overall I'm very happy and bought a spare as backup (I'll probably try a fresh install at some point but as there's no issue with the s pen, I'm in no rush).

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