Kensington Virtuoso Touch stylus first thoughts - Nexus 7 Accessories

This one :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...X39I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342685483&sr=8-1
It's very well made and has a good heft to it, feels like quality. I've only been able to test it on my TP as N7 still on the slow boat from Timbuktoo, the TP is not as sensitive as the N7 and pressure sensitive apps don't seem to work on it so more on that when the N7 arrives. That said the stylus is very responsive and the tip does not 'stick' to the screen although I suppose it depends what (if any) screen protector you have and how tacky it is so ymmv.
The pen end is not a gimmick, it takes Parker refills so that's a big plus point, the lid clips on firmly and the pocket clip is very strong but there's nowhere to store the cap when you are using the pen as it won't fit over the stylus tip, that's a minor problem though..
I have only one big gripe but which could be a problem if you intend to use it for long periods, when using the stylus end the balance point is too far back for my liking and the stylus wants to tip back all the time, given it's weight this is noticeable quite quickly. The balance point is a tiny bit forward of the line of the cap joint which is about the two thirds mark. You can ease the problem by taking the cap off the end but that exposes the pen nib with all the dangers of drawing on your hand/clothes as well as the screen.
As I said above, it's a well made piece if kit and well worth the money, I've used a few styluses from checp nasty ones to better quality, this one is by far the best I've used yet even given the balance issue.

I got this as well and am very happy with it! This is my first tablet, so maybe I don't know what a real good stylus is, but it feels really natural to use and I actually prefer it over using my fingers. Plus less smudging and the pen is handy as well

Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me

Update, Three weeks later and while the stylus is still as good to use, the pen cap is getting loose (rubber O ring a bit thin) which means it can come apart when hung from the clip. Drops a star for that.

Troute said:
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
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There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?

khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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My guess....he's using Quill or a similar app which has a tool that somehow manages to mimic pressure sensitivity.

khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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I wonder if there's an app that can transfer pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth or WiFi.
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I spoke of pressure sensitive Apps, not the N7 screen. I can't speak for all Apps but Markers is one that responds well to the stylus. I think it may be sensing tip coverage but it goes much further than just the area touched by the stylus (or your finger) try it and you'll see what I mean.

Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending

Troute said:
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
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I got the silver elago stylus for 10 bucks, made of aluminum, removable soft tip, nice length, width, weight, and it includes an additional soft tip
Sent from my Black "Destroy Mode" Nexus 7

I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso

Doallyn said:
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
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Mine has become totally unusable now, the tip seems sticky and will not run across the screen smoothly.

Related

capacitive pens are almost useless!

At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?
yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.
stylus
I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
madmackem said:
htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.
i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41
madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.
Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.
I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin
It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.
try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...
There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD
I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
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kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!
capacitive pens
I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!

HD2 Stylus

has anybody purchased the HD2 stylus yet? the screen may be huge, but I miss using a stylus for texting. I have read really bad reviews, but I do want one.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50
Ordered These
I ordered these, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...849513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2824wt_911 and will let y'all know how they work. Even if they don't, they were only $4.
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
steve austin said:
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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Unfortunately, that is the problem with the capacitive screen. The so-called stylus is actually something that emulates your finger tip in terms of contact area. Personally, a very sensitive resistive screen, such as in Samsung I8000 (Omnia 2) is better than the capacitive screen if you do a lot of text work involving copying, cutting and pasting!

I found a great control for tab

so i found this buttons... so i bought them.. they actually work great a bit off the screen but nothing that interrupt the game play... so i guess i wont be doing anything lol no need these are inexpensive and practical....
so i wont let me post the link... search it on ebay by Ten One Design Fling Joystick Ninja iPad 2&1
Is this it ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/C26-Ten-One-Design-Fling-Joystick-Controller-Ninja-iPad-/220738850157
Will that work on our tabs
Can you take a picture of the joysticks on the tab? Curious how well it fits since it's made for the ipad.
That thing looks MASSIVE
yes they are kind of big but it does not affect the gameplay when playing landscape.... ill try to put some pic this week...
Bought a set of 2 from ebay as well after reading the recommendation here. The suction cups goes off the viewable area of the screen a little but it fits and works fine and doesn't obstruct gameplay. Played Death Worm for 2 hours with it and a bit of Gun Bros with both to control movement and firing and it really made controlling a lot easier than using my finger. The only issue that I should note is that if you have a screen protector that uses the material like Zagg's Invisible Shield, Ghost armor, or skinomi (basically the rubbery type protectors) it makes extreme movements a bit difficult because of the friction with that type of material. Honestly, it happens with my fingers too so I don't blame the joystick. All in all I highly recommend it if you play games that have a large touch joystick. Currently waiting on normal plastic screen protectors and will see how the joystick work with them.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Thanks!!!
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Nexus 7 Ergonomics

I just got my Nexus 7 and I am NOT liking the ergonomics. I find it difficult to hold on the sides. I'm coming from a Nook Color which is easy to grip anywhere with one hand. If the edges were not as round on the back, I don't I think I would have such a problem. Also I had expected the "rubber" back to have better grip. I don't know if these are deal breakers for me just yet. Grip or holdability from the bottom is pretty good; I perhaps could get use to it. Everything else is amazing including build quality, except the usb cable is too short at 3 feet; I wouldn't use it, except charging is too slow without it. What's going to help with the ergonomics, a skin or case?
I think I'll add a poll on how well others like the ergonomics.
We've got some baby hands over here....just kidding, but I see what you're getting at. I actually like it for two hand usage more so than one handed. I however really like the feel of the tablet. It just feels solid and premium.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
I always wanted a case the has a like a fabric strap that i can slide my hand into.
Saw it on American family Phil was using it on his iPad. I might just buy a case and fashion it on there myself
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BrianDigital said:
I always wanted a case the has a like a fabric strap that i can slide my hand into.
Saw it on American family Phil was using it on his iPad. I might just buy a case and fashion it on there myself
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Here you go!
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Automa...rated-Manufacturer/dp/B008IEGSGU/ref=pd_ybh_6
I'd say they could be better. The first thing I noticed was that I prefer portrait over landscape a lot. The home button is too far away from either of my hands in landscape making it awkward to press. It's also hard to type in landscape since it takes a lot of reach to hit the keys near the middle. Even the sleep button seems a little awkward to press. I have to take my hand totally off the tablet to get to it. I feel I might like it more once I get my case since I'm overly cautious about getting smudges on the bezel right now.
i prefer the homescreen portrait layout. The only thing that i can point my finger on is the tablet wants to be picked up due to the position of the sleep/wake button. Sometimes i prefer to just turn it on while its on the desk but that doesn't seem like an option anymore, also they could have made the screen slightly longer on top and bottom, but when putting it into landscape mode you can see the thinking
Don't get me wrong...I love the N7 but a few things I find difficult coming from the Nook.
every time I try to turn the volume up I end up turning the screen off....
90% of the time that i pick it up I have it upside down. I never had this problem with the Nook thanks to the little ring/hook.
I agree it's slightly awkward to hold, but maybe it's just because I'm being very reserved with my new baby. Gotta keep her clean for a little while at least...

MiiKare glass screen protector. ?

So I know how difficult it is to find a good screen protector for the Note 8 at the minute, I've tried a few and sent them all back so far.
I ordered the MiiKare glass screen protector, and am pretty happy with it so I thought I'd share it.
I know it won't be the best, but it's the first one I've found that I'll be keeping on my device.
-Price, £8.99
-Packaging, cheap and chinese
-Fitting, easy;
(I did not use the fitting kit device thing, it was awful)
-Fit, good, allows for a case, could be individual cutouts as opposed to one big cut out.
-Visabilaty, 100% clear, very slight "rainbowing"
-Touch Sensitivity, minimal reduction
-S Pen compatability, very good, seemingly unaffected
It also came with a "leather effect" skin for the back, bit fiddly to apply but fine with a bit of patience, it looks OK, prevents scratches on the back when out of case so I'll keep it on, nothing special.
Link :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074RB6JC1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Zq3gWaWo1yGbW
I completely agree with all the points above. Have used the Miikare tgsp since my handset was released from it's box and no issues so far at all. Would have preferred it to be completely clear as opposed to having black bars top and bottom, but otherwise great for the price ?
Nixher said:
So I know how difficult it is to find a good screen protector for the Note 8 at the minute, I've tried a few and sent them all back so far.
I ordered the MiiKare glass screen protector, and am pretty happy with it so I thought I'd share it.
I know it won't be the best, but it's the first one I've found that I'll be keeping on my device.
-Price, £8.99
-Packaging, cheap and chinese
-Fitting, easy;
(I did not use the fitting kit device thing, it was awful)
-Fit, good, allows for a case, could be individual cutouts as opposed to one big cut out.
-Visabilaty, 100% clear, very slight "rainbowing"
-Touch Sensitivity, minimal reduction
-S Pen compatability, very good, seemingly unaffected
It also came with a "leather effect" skin for the back, bit fiddly to apply but fine with a bit of patience, it looks OK, prevents scratches on the back when out of case so I'll keep it on, nothing special.
Link :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074RB6JC1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Zq3gWaWo1yGbW
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When you say "minimal reduction" about the touch sensitivity, do you have to press harder for it to detect input? Specially at the center areas?
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When you say "minimal reduction" about the touch sensitivity, do you have to press harder for it to detect input? Specially at the center areas?
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I use s pen probably 90% of the time im using the phone and can honestly say I have no issue on any part of the screen, barely have to touch it and it works perfectly. I did ever so slightly misalign the protector on install though and when using my finger at the top and top corners I do find I sometimes have to press a bit firmer but nothing I'd say was frustrating as it's not that often an issue for me (probably just compounded by the fact my finger or thumb is already reaching for that part of the screen and pressing lighter than I do lower on the screen). Overall I'm very happy and bought a spare as backup (I'll probably try a fresh install at some point but as there's no issue with the s pen, I'm in no rush).

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