HTC hero VS Liquid E - Liquid S100 General

Hi! i currently have a hero with sensehero 2.1 installed. it works fine, but are getting tired, both speakers blown and quite scratchy screen.
So what i was wondering is, is it worth the buy of a liquid e over my hero? i can get an ok deal on one in norway for 480usd$ last year i payed ~780 usd for my hero. should i save up a bit and buy a htc with non underclocked snapdragon, or the liquid? i dont mind it getting hot as some reviews say, so does my hero. But what im most worried about here is the quality of the screen, is it scratch resistant enough? and how is the speed compared to say a desire or a nexus one?
Hope someone can answer my questions and sosry if there is some bad english
Thank you!
Ole

Never used the Hero (was considering it) but I think that it is a better phone.
I have an A1 (256 megs of RAM while E has 512 megs of RAM). Mine is overclocked to 1GHz so in terms of speed, it is fast (Linpack scores of 6.x nearing 7). Even at 768MHz it was getting Linpack results in the 5.x range. There is also reason to believe that the GPU is overclocked because it gets Nenamark scores in the 16.7 fps range at 1GHz (while HTC 1GHz Snapdragon phones get it in the 10-13 range). So yes, the speed does compare to Nexus/Desire.
The phone is plasticky and creaky, doesn't look amazing or anything, but in terms of hardware, you won't get better bang for buck anywhere.
As far as scratch resistant goes, I was using without a protector for the past 2 months and there are a couple of small scratches (really not too bad. Does not affect anything on the screen). The phone does include a screen protector but it is utter ****. I could not use it. Recently I ordered a 3M protector and a scratch remover, hopefully that takes care of it.
In terms of overall screen quality:
-It is an 800x480 WVGA 3.5" screen so the it does look really good. I don't see pixels or anything.
-The multitouch works but is not great. However there is a custom kernal which does improve it (this is an MT test with the fix, the test is done in FroYo, which is somewhat usable but still lots of work needed til its perfect, but this kernal is also available for Éclair- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTBRwgFPnC8 )
-The sensitivity is not great, however there is a hack which greatly improves it.
If you are looking for something affordable yet nice, you should take a long hard look at this. If you do plan on saving up a bit and stepping up, I think the Galaxy S would be a better buy given how much better the Hummingbird processor is to Snapdragon (especially on graphics) and how nice the Super AMOLED screen is.

Wow. I didnt actually bother checking out the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S from my network supplyer here in Norway, Telenor. I just assumed it would be dirt expensive. And i found it was only 30 dollars more expensive than the acer if i lock my service plan in for another 12 months :O.
I now know its GOING TO be the samsung only downer is that its huge! but ill survive that. Now i cant wait for my paycheck.

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What Will You Get After the Nexus?

So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?
Nexus One is a beautiful product... I would like to wait for Nexus Two if there is any~ I got my Nexus One on 2nd March.
have been using it for 9 months and I still have 92% usable battery capacity..
I agree it is beautiful. I noticed you're in Australia, for which I'm very jealous. However, I'm not sure what the Australian Android scene is like down there, but it's changing daily here in the US.
Check out the battery cal thread. We just got the battery changes into pershoot's kernel this week. So now you can pull all your battery values from the battery EEPROM chip, and tweak them. We are experimenting with squeezing out more capacity now that we can change voltage, current, etc. Check the battery thread for more info
nothing for awhile, i just upgraded from my G1 to a N1 3 weeks ago and i don't honestly see anything hardware wise ground breaking happening that will make me want to get a new phone anytime soon.
a buddy of mine has the droid X, nice phone but man that screen looks like crap compared to the AMOLED screen the viewing angles not that it matters is very bad on them as well.
I think when they come up with a newer battery tech or phones that can have 2x+ the battery life and still be just as good as an N1 i would consider it but it's not going to happen for at least a year if not longer. in the mean time i don't have problems with battery life on average days and when i know i will be away from home/work for awhile i have a spare charged battery to make sure it stays alive
angasreid said:
So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?
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As soon as something that has a high quality build with a good camera equipped, I will jump ship. As of right now, I don't think that any Android phone has a good camera (in my opinion). I think we definitely live in an age where cellphone cameras can replace digital cameras but, unfortunately, there is no Android phone that has impressed me yet in the imaging department.
I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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IPhone 3g vs n1 camera? Lol don't think so
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Droid Terminator... Early next year...
Nexus One has a decent camera, but the video recording quality is atrocious, ie. typical HTC video camera quality. Even the Sony X10 Mini Pro takes better videos (constant 30fps indoors). That's probably the only big knock against my Nexus One.
N1 stays
With currently available options I am unable to justify a switch from N1.
Thats unless someone releases an unlocked phone with a 1.5 dual core processor and 1G RAM with sustainable battery backup.
I'll wait for the next batch of new Android devices from the manufacturers once the WP7(which looks good) dust settles down.
They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.
Chahk said:
They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.
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That would be freaking awsome. I will have my Nexus One until a "Nexus two" is coming . Still very happy with it, had it for like 8 months now.
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Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
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That's why, after a lot of deliberation, I'm getting the LG Optimus 2X
All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.
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All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.
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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
to answer this thread, i've been in upgrade hell, i simply cant figure out what i would want to replace my nexus one with. nothing out there seems to be "better" than the nexus one for me. is it too hard to get a nice solid aluminum 3.7-4 inch phone with notification light and build quality? the desire s is the highest on my list right now, but that stupid side-charge port turns me off. and no notification light. couldnt they just make the charge port on the bottom like normal?
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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
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S-OFF stands for Security Off. Without getting technical, think of is as an unlocked bootloader.
I'll go for the HTC Pyramid if it shows up unlocked & 4G for tmob usa. Keeping my great N1 till then...
next phone
for me it has to be htc iv experimented and the dev support is with htc it will be a sense phone i cant stand stock
I am going to keep my N1 until the LG Optimus G2x or HTC Pyramid come out on Tmo, but I will wait to see if the Cyanogen team support them. I am not willing to get a phone without CM, or not being able to use custom Roms.
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[Q] Liquid e worth buying still or too old?

Am getting a really cheap brand new liquid e, is it still worth buying? does it have multi touch support? One thing that I am disappointed about is mini USB instead of micro, but its not a big deal if rest is a good package. How is direct sunlight legibility outdoors?
personally I think the Liquid E it the best phone for the price.
If you are from Canada you can pick it up new from kijiji for $250. Lots of ppl using their Fido $$ to get it for free and just selling it there (got one for my GF)
Performance wise its got the same processor as the Nexus one except its clocked down to 800Mhz for battery performance. 512 MB of Ram/Rom
Its upgradeable to Android 2.2 since October (Faster then a lot of other devices) and it will most likely get gingerbread seeing as acer is on top of the upgrade cycles (a guess).
I do notice that the touch screen can be a little iffy. The edges of the screen sometimes are really hard to detect and in general the whole touch screen could be a little more sensitive. But that can all be fixed by rooting your device and changing some values around.
Multitouch, Im not entirely sure, it has it but might have the same issues as N1/Experia when the two fingers come really close to each other.
Overall, Id buy this phone if i didn't have the money and weren't waiting for Nexus S to come out for AT&T/Rogers/Fido frequencies.
Hope that helps.
I got mine not too long ago, and for the price im moar than happy with it. Comunity support is really good. Maybe not so much here, but modaco has lots of different custom roms that can be flashed onto it. Really good phone for the price : )
I'm waiting for Rogers to replace my 3rd one. They keep failing. The battery life is horrible. I've been without a phone for a month now because they are back ordered.

SGS one year onwards: still worth buying?

hi peeps,
At least in the 1Ghz cpu weight devision, is it still worth buying at ~US$545? i'm not that impressed with the past and current 1Ghz offerings. My main concern is software updates -- which, ironically, was why i hesitated buying the SGS a year ago. But then Samsung appears to have released a Gingerbread update ahead of everyone else( *cough* HTC *cough*), has even announced that it won't lock the bootloader, and appears to have a ton of custom ROMs and just as much "unofficial" developer support.
Then again, the projected price range of the dual core monsters coming in May isn't really that big; imho a US$100 price premium is well worth it for me.
I think as of right now, anyone who wants a phone should wait for the SGSII, but as for buying the SGS, im glad i bought it when i did (jan). The community make it what it is. If there wasnt custom roms to speed the phone up then i would have been bitterly disapointed with the lag of a stock SGS, yes gingerbread is quick but its been awhile in the making.
One year and another month different story SGS 2 on sale SGS 1 at a cheaper price .
jje
Nope. Save your money for SGS2 or dual-core HTCm whatever suits you.
I would definitely hang on for whichever dual core floats your boat, be it HTC or SGS II. As good as the SGS is (I love mine) it will struggle to compete with the heavyweight dual core handsets.
Get a Tegra 2 based device. See how much juice they consume though.
SGS 2 is silly big, well for me personally, there ought to be some constraints to limit overall size of device, afterall its mobile phones we're talking about. Bigger devices defeat the purpose of having a mobile phone and tend to look rather unprofessional, more like portable gaming devices.
I'm going to take the opposite opinion to many on here.
+es
SGS is a solid, reliable, known platform, that just keeps improving with each android revision.
not possible to have a problem that can't be answered by reading here
****load of 3rd party hardware, from spare batteries on up
-es
doesn't have dual core, waaa waaa my penis isn't big enough, go and buy 3 spare batteries to run the dual core SGS2, better still buy a laptop, because the only people I have seen with ANY kind of computing power problems are frankly assholes who could bring a cray to its knees in a week.
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phones have got to the place desktops got with 3ghz cpu's and xp/linux, almost nobody actually needs faster more than 0.5% of the time.
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The next big revolution is going to be in battery tech, when you can get 5000 mAh into the volume and mass of 1000 mAh today, that will open new doors
thermal rejection of an SGS at full battery draining whack is already as high as you can go and stay healthy silicon wise.
just be grateful it ain't x86.... (speaking as someone who used to run 64bit MIPS Cobalt RAQ2's back in the day when they were the new kid on the block... wow, an empty pizza box with not even any heatsinks on the silicon...)
save your money for SGS II
i just bought mine last week. got it for around $470 (8GB version) in Vietnam. the reason i got it was mainly due to the great screen as well as the strong community developer support which coming from the Galaxy Spica is a BIG difference in the overall user experience. I love tech and love tinkering with my phone. I don't believe dual core will make that much of a difference unlike on a laptop/desktop where you really have to run multiple programs (note: antivirus). I know my SGS will be astounding as soon as the devs finish tweaking the heck out of the GB code!
If you are going to pay that kind of price (around 500$) and you care about updates, why don't you get a Nexus S ?
Same phone, slightly better and corrected hardware-wise. It is supported by Google and CyanogenMod.
I think it's worth considering buying second hand. I just bought a 1 month old handset for quite a bit less than a new one. It's in perfect condition. And I'll use it for the next year and then upgrade when the SGSII (and others like it) are down to a reasonable price. Rinse and repeat (too expensive to be on the bleeding edge all the time ).
benoitb85 said:
If you are going to pay that kind of price (around 500$) and you care about updates, why don't you get a Nexus S ?
Same phone, slightly better and corrected hardware-wise. It is supported by Google and CyanogenMod.
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the deal breaker for me on the nexus s was the lack of micro SD support
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the deal breaker for me on the nexus s was the lack of micro SD support
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I had 2 deal breakers...
No microsd slot and no fm radio.
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depends on $$$$
Johnny55555555 said:
I'm going to take the opposite opinion to many on here.
+es
SGS is a solid, reliable, known platform, that just keeps improving with each android revision.
not possible to have a problem that can't be answered by reading here
****load of 3rd party hardware, from spare batteries on up
-es
doesn't have dual core, waaa waaa my penis isn't big enough, go and buy 3 spare batteries to run the dual core SGS2, better still buy a laptop, because the only people I have seen with ANY kind of computing power problems are frankly assholes who could bring a cray to its knees in a week.
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phones have got to the place desktops got with 3ghz cpu's and xp/linux, almost nobody actually needs faster more than 0.5% of the time.
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The next big revolution is going to be in battery tech, when you can get 5000 mAh into the volume and mass of 1000 mAh today, that will open new doors
thermal rejection of an SGS at full battery draining whack is already as high as you can go and stay healthy silicon wise.
just be grateful it ain't x86.... (speaking as someone who used to run 64bit MIPS Cobalt RAQ2's back in the day when they were the new kid on the block... wow, an empty pizza box with not even any heatsinks on the silicon...)
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I agree. SGS is still a great buy.
honestly, i do find dual cores a bit of an overkill for phones...but yeah, the price diff is just too close, esp. if you compare it with the G2X. dual core it is then. i just wish HTC(and all the other brands) would stop with the signed bootloader crap.
Then again, once the other dual cores come out, then the SGS drops to US$350...hmm...
badkuk said:
hi peeps,
At least in the 1Ghz cpu weight devision, is it still worth buying at ~US$545?
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For sure it wasn't worth buying one year ago when I bought mine...
maybe it's like wine, the older the better
Soulbrighter
In Austria, you get the I9000 for 299€ .
A year ago, I paid the same + 24 months contract...
As you look around and see the tons of fixes / mods / developments, I would suggest, this is a very good buy even though I guess, SGS 2 is quite interesting as well...
Kind regards,
ww
in scotland you can get galaxy s's from £170 second hand on gumtree.
most are around £200 but to me thats still a bargain
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[Q] love my SGS classic, why buy a SGS II ?

Hi,
Not a troll or flamebait, but I really can't find any reason to let go of
my trusty SGS (one) to get a shiny SGS II. A friend showed me his II and
it is taller than the classic and not really thiner (it seemed to me).
So the II would stick out a bit more from my pocket.
Is there any good reason to "upgrade" to a SGS II?
In my opinion the the upgrade from SGS to SGS II isnt worth the 500€, or well more like 300€ since you can probably get 200€+ from your SGS
Dual core, 1 GB RAM, SAMOLED+, 1080p recording, TW4... The list goes on and on.
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I got a SGS Galaxy II for a friend of mine, and could buy another for me heavily discounted, and still I didn't think twice and didn't upgrade from my precious i9000.
SGS Galaxy II advantages are minimal for my needs, there is no real breakthrough.
Probably will only upgrade when my i9000 dies on me.
I'm waiting for SGS3 as it will propably be 3D phone. I9000 to i9100 is too small upgrade for me as my i9000 can do 95% as smooth as I9100 games i play and roms i use.
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HDMI, better CPU, much more RAM,... if it had 720p screen, I'd be drolling over it
I think the biggest difference I noticed when I played with one at the store, besides the RAM, was the faster SD speed. Installing apps seemed to be about 2-4x faster than on my SGS. Angry Birds, large program, installed pretty quickly maybe 5-7 seconds while it would be a bit of a wait 15+ seconds on my SGS. I would guess that the faster SD is mostly what makes the device much quicker and less laggy overall.
Still not dropping the cash to buy one though. I'll just want next year's model when it comes out...so I'll play with SGS gingerbread roms in the meantime to relax my trigger finger for now.
I would have upgraded in a heartbeat if the SGS2 would have had the exact identical form factor as the SGS.
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal until I got to try my friends phone.
It was an instant deal-killer after using it...
ccrows said:
I would have upgraded in a heartbeat if the SGS2 would have had the exact identical form factor as the SGS.
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal until I got to try my friends phone.
It was an instant deal-killer after using it...
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Agreed!!! I hope the SGS 3, comes with a 4.3" screen while still retaining the form factor similar to SGS (width in particular, should be lower as in SE Arc). If nothing works, 4" still would be enough.
For me, two things, that SGS 2 will definitely fix are the memory issue (browser tabs's data being lost, after multitasking) and maybe the GPS. (have tried most of the fixes, but voice navigation in car doesn't work all that well. maybe limitation of a mobile device, but I have a feeling SGS2 would fare much better).
Its too much too soon IMO.
Ive only had my SGS 1 for 7 months now, Upgrading to the SGS 2 is bizzare lol,
I mean, if i had the cash spare, i probably would, as would anyone else. But to me £200/300 is just waaaay to much for little gain.. Theres so much more that money could do for me.
Maybe in another 6 months i may think about the upgrade, But im loving my SGS 1 at the moment, Running MIUI, super smooth super fast, TW4 launcher, Great GPS, 720p recording, and lots more..... I dont need much more from a phone really.
I am going through the same debate in my head. I LOVE my sgs but the sgs2 is very tempting. For me the main pros are:
-Bigger screen
-Bigger battery
-Faster
-Camera flash
-Better/working gps (this is my assumption, anyone confirm?)
-The form factor, current sgs reminds me too much of an iphone.
-Hdmi out
I love my SGS.. The SGS2 looks much 'squarer' imo.
ok let me say my experience:
after buying the sgsII over the original, I can confirm that all the pros which people claimed r true
what is the difference between pentium 3 and 4? its nothing but the speed and performance.
having said that I gave sgs+cm 7 to my wife and she is pretty happy with it
this phone is not dead .....yet
so does the big question is SHALL U GUYS UPGRADE ??
I got my phone by a contract upgrade cause I needed to get a contract anyway
I am paying £27 for free phone+300min+unlimited sms+500mb on O2
but if I dont have the upgrade yet I would stay patient for couple of months waiting for the prices to fall.
Summary: this phone is a big leap on the old one, ull c the improvements in every single element . However, its worth holding ur breaths for a short while
I owned the S1 for 11 months, Initially I never thought the S2 would really offer anything better apart from the bigger screen and 50% more subpixels which is not noticeable anyway, but when I got the phone the speed difference is just amazing and I've decked out the SGS1 with tweaks (OneNAND mode / SpeedMod / 1.4Ghz OC) The difference is just so huge, w/o using the S2 you can say that the S1 is pretty smooth but once you start yung the S2 you can really say that the S1 was just fooling you in terms of smoothness. Multi tasking is awesome on the phone, no waiting time when switching between apps/tasks the phone is actually waiting on you. Its pretty impressive and worth the jump for me.. Imagine this is running on an OS with almost no dualcore optimizations..
The only edge the S1 has over the S2 is the quality control of the screen on the S1 is far far better than the S2.
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I owned the S1 for 11 months, Initially I never thought the S2 would really offer anything better apart from the bigger screen and 50% more subpixels which is not noticeable anyway, but when I got the phone the speed difference is just amazing and I've decked out the SGS1 with tweaks (OneNAND mode / SpeedMod / 1.4Ghz OC) The difference is just so huge, w/o using the S2 you can say that the S1 is pretty smooth but once you start yung the S2 you can really say that the S1 was just fooling you in terms of smoothness. Multi tasking is awesome on the phone, no waiting time when switching between apps/tasks the phone is actually waiting on you. Its pretty impressive and worth the jump for me.. Imagine this is running on an OS with almost no dualcore optimizations..
The only edge the S1 has over the S2 is the quality control of the screen on the S1 is far far better than the S2.
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You mean 25% more sub-pixels? Green, Blue, Red and now with SAmoled+ also Yellow?
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Jobiza said:
You mean 25% more sub-pixels? Green, Blue, Red and now with SAmoled+ also Yellow?
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No, it's 50% more.
The SGS is:
R G | B G | R G
The SGS II is:
R G B | R G B | R G B
In both cases, 3 pixels. One has 6 subpixels, the other 9.
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Hrithan2020 said:
Agreed!!! I hope the SGS 3, comes with a 4.3" screen while still retaining the form factor similar to SGS (width in particular, should be lower as in SE Arc). If nothing works, 4" still would be enough.
For me, two things, that SGS 2 will definitely fix are the memory issue (browser tabs's data being lost, after multitasking) and maybe the GPS. (have tried most of the fixes, but voice navigation in car doesn't work all that well. maybe limitation of a mobile device, but I have a feeling SGS2 would fare much better).
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For anyone having issues or even a slow GPS on the SGS, take a look at this thread.
This virtually fixed all of my GPS issues just by applying OP's config...
Dual Core & 1Gb RAM of the SGS2 is very tempting! But because I'm a music fan, I really hate the Yamaha DAC on the SGS2. Tested it a couple of times and it just blows a$$!
SGS1 + Voodoo is so much better!
I'm still waiting for the next batch of SGS2 that will have Wolfson DAC in it and probably 1.4Ghz Processor & bigger internal memory!
ccrows said:
For anyone having issues or even a slow GPS on the SGS, take a look at this thread.
This virtually fixed all of my GPS issues just by applying OP's config...
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I have found that in general these fixes, would increase the locking speed. But, didn't find it to perform very well, when it comes to tracking the device when moving. (maybe, that is the limit of SGS? inside car, with windows closed, there is bound to be quite a lot of attenuation)
currently using galnets miui on the sgs...I'm also not sure whether or not the upgrade to the sgs2 is worthy (yet) ?
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Need advice on selecting a new phone

I had an HTC Inspire and liked it, but kind of heavy.
Recently upgraded to an LG Nitro. I've had a few problems. For some reason, during the night while it is charging, it just quits charging. When I get up the battery is down to 25%. I've also had problems when placing a calls. When I take the phone away from my ear the screen won't come back on and I can't disconnect the call. This almost always happens when I'm leaving a voice mail and people will end up with a bunch of background noise until I can manage to get the screen to come back on and disconnect the call. All in all, very annoying problems.
I was considering returning it for the HTC Vivid or the Samsung Skyrocket.
Does anyone have any opinions?
Thanks.
Do you want sense or touchwiz?
Both are great but the vivid is stuck with no development due to not being able to unlock.....yet.
The HTC is the much nicer phone
I wouldn't go from nitro to skyrocket, the phone is good but the screen is low resolution. I'm really happy with the Vivid, I can still wait for bootloader, no time to play with custom roms yet, do no biggie for me.
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kiddchris said:
The HTC is the much nicer phone
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Just because you own the HTC doesn't mean "it's the much nicer phone"....they are both great phones, but i would go with the regular at&t gs2 over the skyrocket and then its a coin flip for the HTC or the GS2
It depends if you want to wait for the HTC bootloader to be unlocked, or if you want to go ahead and start flashing custom rom's
Pretty sure you're stuck with the Nitro since you only get one exchange within the 30 days from when you upgrade.
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Boobie Watcher said:
Just because you own the HTC doesn't mean "it's the much nicer phone"....they are both great phones, but i would go with the regular at&t gs2 over the skyrocket and then its a coin flip for the HTC or the GS2
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no, not "because I own the htc", I have had two Samsungs very recently along with the htc, and the HTC is the nicer phone out of the three, by alot
jacquiegardner said:
I had an HTC Inspire and liked it, but kind of heavy.
Recently upgraded to an LG Nitro. I've had a few problems. For some reason, during the night while it is charging, it just quits charging. When I get up the battery is down to 25%. I've also had problems when placing a calls. When I take the phone away from my ear the screen won't come back on and I can't disconnect the call. This almost always happens when I'm leaving a voice mail and people will end up with a bunch of background noise until I can manage to get the screen to come back on and disconnect the call. All in all, very annoying problems.
I was considering returning it for the HTC Vivid or the Samsung Skyrocket.
Does anyone have any opinions?
Thanks.
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This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
ebaul said:
This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
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Agree!
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kiddchris said:
no, not "because I own the htc", I have had two Samsungs very recently along with the htc, and the HTC is the nicer phone out of the three, by alot
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by alot? Like what?
I kept my Evo but got a Galaxy oil the other day. I was shocked at the low resolution screen and cartoon colors. I can appreciate that Sense uses tons of memory and what made me root my Evo was the ui slowing after gingerbread. Every time I went to the gone screen it would have to stop and reload.
I plan to replace the Galaxy with a Inspire or Vivid as I can't live with the screen.
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ebaul said:
This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
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Nicely said!
My 2 Cents
I tend to stick to mainly HTC based phones. Why..
I feel they are very solid.
They tend to have good support factory & dev.
They tend to be very customizable
Performance wise I think the HTC & Samsung run very close (I am basing this using Vivid and Skyrocket for examples).
I like both screens (the Samsung oled screens tend to be better in sunlight, but I have been impressed with the Vivids screen in Sunlight)
My Advice to you look at your options, do some reading on what prople like and don't like and decide what phone better fits your needs. For me it's currently the Vivid.
Just my opionion tho.
Cheers
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