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Is any third party accessories announced that utilizes the port on the Galaxy Tab?
(It is similar to PDMI, but not compatible, right?)
I would love to see an adapter to connect usb-devices such as usb memory sticks and digital cameras for backup as well as a hdmi output cable.
i start workin again next week after 2 years of school... goodbye lovely time....
will be coding machines and wanted to make a selfmade hdmi dock for the tab.
...as some excersie after 2 years...
but nobody in here is able to post the pin assignment of his dock or. tv cable.... thanks to the community!!!
Hi
I am also trying to find out more on this matter to make my own "real" hdmi cable for the Tab or experiment with other fun features as sub stick adapter...
The port seems to be a fully PDMI port, don't know if USB 3.0 signaling is there though.
The Dell Streak also use PDMI connector.
PDMI info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
USB on tge go OTG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
Displayport info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
http://www.displayport.org/cms/sites/default/files/downloads/DisplayPort_Technical_Overview.pdf
The PDMI connector features a 2 lane Displayport adapter.
To convert from this adapter You would need a chip that can convert dual lane Displayport to HDMI as most readily adapters use 4 lane Displayport AC level conversions as this chip:'
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/14627.pdf
This is a 2 lane to VGA adpater :
http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATA_BRIEF/CD00214490.pdf
http://www.nxp.com/#/pip/pip=[pip=PTN3392]|pp=[t=pip,i=PTN3392]
This is the Displayport convert chip we want to use:
http://www.paradetech.com/products/displayport-format-converters/displayport-to-hdmidvi-converter/
This is just a quick summary.
The first thing we need is to find a suppier of PDMI contacs instead of ripping apart expensive charger cables to test with.
Other devices that uses PDMI connector:
Dell Streak
Slacker G2
thanks to zab... i finally get a useable tab... all my questions have been anwered :0)
now lets start workin.... i m going to make a stand for mobile and outdoor use.
there are some cheap solar battery extenders out now...
i think video without hdmi should do its job.... look at those tiny mini beamers :0) i own one :0)
ok... now lets reactivate my braincells... hits from the.... .... ....
edit: after a short look at my samsung usb cable..... i have to say its not pdmi standard. :0(
shame on samsung! there are 7 pins used in my cable... ok only 23 left... grrrr
What is the pinout You have measured then?
And does anyone have the videocable so they can measure the pinout on it?
I don't wanna sacrifise my cable until I have a spare one. I've already lost it once and the battery lasts for 3 days. After that it was a long wait until I found it again as I haven't found any spare cable here in Norway yet in the stores.
Belkin have a hdmi cable you can order.
Don't now exactly how it looks, hope it's just transforms the pdmi to a hdmi port where you can mount a standard hdmi cable. But it almost seems like item will be a mini hdmi import.
Have ordered one, hope i will have it ibm some days
Belkin Ultra-Thin Mobile HDMI Cable
for Galaxy Tab HDMI A - HDMI C
step by step to a usefull tab...
bd85 said:
Belkin have a hdmi cable you can order.
Don't now exactly how it looks, hope it's just transforms the pdmi to a hdmi port where you can mount a standard hdmi cable. But it almost seems like item will be a mini hdmi import.
Have ordered one, hope i will have it ibm some days
Belkin Ultra-Thin Mobile HDMI Cable
for Galaxy Tab HDMI A - HDMI C
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thanks, i'm going to take a look at this.
edit: nooooooooo!!! you bought an mini hdmi to hdmi cable.... its for the dock... oh man.
there is no pdmi. not in your cable and not in the tab too.
...i was searching in some other forums last night.
it looks like the dell streak has got the only real pdmi pin assignment.
when i look at my tab usb cable the pins that are used are:
3,4 then 7,8 + 15,16 and finally... pin 30 !? ...perhaps they where drunken when doin this...
comparing to pdmi-wiki and dells it looks like samsung only used the size (you can plug it in the dell tablet) but fully messed around the assignment so most of users have to buy a piece of sh... for 50 bucks.... wow!!!
.... ... i bought fruid-salad but i only taste apples.... .... thanksung!
It's NOT a PDMI connector, Samsung have altered it so it's mechanically compatible, but not electrically.
We don't have any specs on the actual pinouts of the Tab connector yet as far as I'm aware.
me dont buy pdmi accessoire :0)
knightnz said:
It's NOT a PDMI connector, Samsung have altered it so it's mechanically compatible, but not electrically.
We don't have any specs on the actual pinouts of the Tab connector yet as far as I'm aware.
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thanks for you're english lesson. im loose my religion ;0) apesome!
no pdmi, right!
pinouts?...
i visited my mother and got some needels now (nähnadeln in germany, not the ones for heroine)
i am doing some voodoo on my tab right now ;0) ... O
first i was afraid of the high power pdmi-usb output....
but now i think there is no high power...
dagobert drug said:
i visited my mother and got some needels now (nähnadeln in germany, not the ones for heroine)
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ROFL that's some hilarous shi* man, you got twitter account? You're thoughts are mind blowing lol
Only if you had the official dock which has the hdmi out, perhaps you get a better idea how this works?
dagobert drug said:
thanks, i'm going to take a look at this.
edit: nooooooooo!!! you bought an mini hdmi to hdmi cable.... its for the dock... oh man.
there is no pdmi. not in your cable and not in the tab too.
...i was searching in some other forums last night.
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Thanks for looking this up,
luckily i haven't got the cable yet. So will remove my order and buy the hdmi dock and a hdmi mini to hdmi cable.
If i have now the length of belkins cable i have bought it, but now i don't now that so will find a other cable
Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector. I am also adding micro/mini usb..so that the adapter can be used with more devices Please tell me what you think about the cord length.
PLEASE NOTE: In this picture, the iphone end is "male"..it would be FEMALE for us!!
How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?
Bohemian said:
How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?
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That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)
Muscleshop said:
That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)
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Great work, but I would be happy to pay the 5x the price for just a streak to iPhone adapter, aslong as it was under 25 gnome
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out
TheManii said:
How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out
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This current plan (still working on actual dock too, separately) is:
Female iFail 30 pin <--cable --> Female Standard USB + Female Mini USB + Female Micro USB (so it appeals to more devices)
Planning on Charging/Sync/Audio
Does that answer it?
Sounds good to me. Count me in.
May I suggest a Male PDMI -> Female USB Block/Cable for connecting USB accessories to the Streak? USB Keyboards work by default, the block would just need a short wire to connect pins 2 and 4 of the PDMI together (I believe) to activate USB Host mode.
I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
still would be better for an adapter that plugged into the streak and had female micro/mini.
Something low profile that could potentially be left plugged in and left in place.
Start with a naked streak and if popular make ones for a otterbox defender/commuter, etc
TooMuchFace said:
I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: http://cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
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This is why the internet is so important...lol Thanks for finding this "unicorn"
I searched and searched and searched but could not find it, so I decided to possibly have it made. This is very similar to what I was thinking. Differrences would be the addition of mini & micro usb female connectors with my idea. Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
In addition to that, this particular site says:
cablejive said:
The Universal Dock Converter is CableJive's most "hobbyist" product, and as a result we are fairly open about returns, provided you are open about how it has or hasn't worked with your setup.
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Which leads me to believe it was not very well thought out.
Muscleshop said:
This is why the internet is so important...lol Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
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I'm in!
(that is all I wanted to say but I can't submit posts with less than 10 characters. See... you didn't have to read this.)
I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
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Fazziebear said:
I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk
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I think this would be better if the male end is PDMI
http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockStubz.html
Muscleshop said:
Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector.
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I don't see how that can work.
You need the 30-pin PDMI connector on one end, and the Apple connector on the other. Here's the Streak's pinout http://linuxslate.com/#Dell_Streak_PDMI_Pinout and here's the Apple pinout http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod,_iPad_and_iPhone_dock
If it's simply going to connect USB to the Apple connector, then it will only be able to pass USB's 4 pins of data and power - there'll be no video or audio output. What's more, there are already adaptors on the market for USB to Apple, like the one already mentioned http://www.cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
Both PDMI and apple dock connectors support line out for audio, only thing it wouldnt take advantage of is video out and USB-OTG
At least what i was interested in was a PDMI <-> Dock directly
This is an intriguing project. I have a question about accessory compatibility.
I've been desperately trying to work out an external, powered mic set up for the Streak. I've established that the headphone jack, like iProducts, doesn't supply phantom power. iProducts got around this by using their dataport to power attached microphones. So in theory, this solution could connect to an iMic and supply the same power.
Here's the q: Is just having a powered mic attached via dataport (through the adapter cable) enough? Or work a supporting app have to be written to tell the device that there's a mic there and also handle the supporting software to make it work?
PDMI only supplies line out from what we know, nor does it have power out.
Even if it could do both, wouldnt it drain the battery pretty quickly?
All I care for is a line out and the charging. Who gives a damn for the video and other stuff. I care more for the pure acoustic bliss.
I would like it to just lie and say its apple so my car play music from it.. using then ipod interface..
Hello
I'm having problems charging my captivate. It's not the micro usb cable because I have tried multiple ones. I do receive power but its not just simply "plug and play". I literally have to tinker with it and if the phone is interrupted it stops charging.
I priced the repair for it online and cell phone repair shops want 60$. I looked up the (SAMSUNG I897 CHARGING PORT) and its 3$. My question to anyone who has repaired or knows. Is this piece modular or is it soldered to the circuit board.
This is the part I'm referencing to.
Charger-Port-Connector-Plug-Samsung-Captivate-i897
Sorry I cant post the link because I'm a noobie, and this site has a great feature built in to avoid spam.
Thanks for all you help
I've never taken mine apart to find out but I just saw this post by Statstalker that has some pics of his USB port and it appears to be soldered. Hope that helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153099
ZBigT said:
I've never taken mine apart to find out but I just saw this post by Statstalker that has some pics of his USB port and it appears to be soldered. Hope that helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153099
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Thanks bro
I beleive most friends already DIY this or from somewhre else, but this time, we alreay finished design and launch goods workmanship products, see here pls.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...-mini-5-OTG-cable-for-Dell-mini-5-streak.html
we already finished it, and launch the finished producds.
and attach the photo, thanks all.
Can you provide the pinouts for the dell 30 pin connector?
Does it also do standard charging/usb device?
I'm going to buy a couple cables, but I'd like more information first.
TheManii said:
Can you provide the pinouts for the dell 30 pin connector?
Does it also do standard charging/usb device?
I'm going to buy a couple cables, but I'd like more information first.
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sure, it's support standard data/charging for the device, like streak 5; also support otg cable.
for example, for streak 5, when you plug micro usb otg cable, the device into otg function, when you plug stand micro usb cable, it's into data/sync/charging.
TheManii said:
Can you provide the pinouts for the dell 30 pin connector?
Does it also do standard charging/usb device?
I'm going to buy a couple cables, but I'd like more information first.
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for the pinouts, i will take more details photo of inside the adaptor
You should repost this on the Streak7 subforum, I'm planning on buying one soon for my S7.
TheManii said:
You should repost this on the Streak7 subforum, I'm planning on buying one soon for my S7.
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OH, thanks
Hi,
Are you going to sell this on ebay? Thanks
PDMI to mini HDMI connector?
Can you make a PDMI to mini HDMI connector?
hxcomchina said:
I beleive most friends already DIY this or from somewhre else, but this time, we alreay finished design and launch goods workmanship products, see here pls.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...-mini-5-OTG-cable-for-Dell-mini-5-streak.html
we already finished it, and launch the finished producds.
and attach the photo, thanks all.
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Too bad "Can not deliver to Hong Kong". Where else I can order it!?
tonyfung820 said:
Too bad "Can not deliver to Hong Kong". Where else I can order it!?
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sure can send to hong kong, pls contact me via email: [email protected] or gtalk: [email protected]
I've purchased and received, works perfectly, thank you VERY much for this
thank you!
this is super helpful! good bye to the days of my phone being proprietary! great post, buying this weekend
hxcomchina said:
for the pinouts, i will take more details photo of inside the adaptor
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Can you all make a PDMI -- HDMI connector or cable for the Dell Streak 5?
Many thanks!!
akita16384 said:
Can you all make a PDMI -- HDMI connector or cable for the Dell Streak 5?
Many thanks!!
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i am already in testing the rom for it,
The website says that these are not shipped to India.
Kartikaye, write direcly to hxcomchina, asking for PayPal invoice.
Had no probs getting my cables to Ukraine.
hxcomchina said:
I beleive most friends already DIY this or from somewhre else, but this time, we alreay finished design and launch goods workmanship products, see here pls.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...-mini-5-OTG-cable-for-Dell-mini-5-streak.html
we already finished it, and launch the finished producds.
and attach the photo, thanks all.
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How you will provide mounting software for streak 5..? & how can I use it..? Do you supply to India- tamilnadu-Chennai..?
Hey i am intrested in buying one
Just tell me the price and will you be able to shio it to india
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46308/asus-nexus-7-audio-dock
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
Perfect.
whaaaaat? this tab has pogo pins? cool
Perhaps with it having 4 pins it will allow for data to transfer with it (unlike the nexus with it only having 3 pins).
Threads about accessories go in the Accessories section
neok44 said:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46308/asus-nexus-7-audio-dock
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
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So, you find this out and post it on xda without telling me? Jerk.
Micro USB to HDMI Cable Included.
neok44 said:
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
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If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
pache711 said:
If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/2
contrary to popular belief, the asus nexus 7 actually has TWO speakers/drivers. its shown in the first pic. theyre closer together compared to in the memo 370t, but there are two.
i havent seen how theyre hooked up, but theyre either in two channel mode or in single channel mode. chances are that theyre in single channel mode. even if it were in dual channel mode, theyre so close together it wouldnt even matter, it would sound like a nearfield setup.
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If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
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No, unfortunately they screwed up. That's the cable included with the Nexus Q, there's still no HDMI capabilities for the Nexus 7.
What with there being FOUR pogo pins, I hope it is just a straight up USB type connection. That would make it pretty damn easy to make docks with USB connections for peripherals or whatever external storage may end up working with the device.
Can't wait to get my N7!