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Which folder is 4MB storage?

When I go to Active Sync and click Explore, I get a folder view that confuses me! There is no C: drive and I know there is two types of storage on my HTC Touch Diamond.
What is the My Windows Mobile-Based Device folder? If I double click that, I can see a list of folders, one of which says Internal Storage. Is that the 4MB of memory that the Diamond has? Or am I confused!
Thanks,
Jon

There is no 4MB memory but the internal memory is 4GB.

Yes, Internal Storage has 4GB

So does that mean the forlder called Internal Storage is the 4GB of internal memory?

Yes .

Remember that the folder is invisible while the Diamond is connected to the PC.

Thanks guys!

karlth said:
Remember that the folder is invisible while the Diamond is connected to the PC.
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Only when connecting your phone as a disk drive. In active sync it remains visible.

I notice that a system file for a program has this:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/program"
If I want to store it in the internal storage folder, what do I change the %SDCARD% to?

Jon12345 said:
I notice that a system file for a program has this:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/program"
If I want to store it in the internal storage folder, what do I change the %SDCARD% to?
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Iternal storage, but it is language sensitive, so you use the name displayed in the TD file manager.

if it's for iGO8 you don't need to do it just get the 8.0.0.44366 update and install
easiest way to determine which folder it is is to unplug the diamond and go to file explorer to rood folder
you will see a small sd card sign by the name of the folder,and that's the one,doesn't matter in which language,icon is the same

So %SDCARD% doesn't automatically look for any SD card on your device?

farukb said:
if it's for iGO8 you don't need to do it just get the 8.0.0.44366 update and install
easiest way to determine which folder it is is to unplug the diamond and go to file explorer to rood folder
you will see a small sd card sign by the name of the folder,and that's the one,doesn't matter in which language,icon is the same
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How just to get this update? And should you know how to get the camera file, please include this as well. Thanks

Storage card on my Tilt

Why is it when i download a file on my PC from the net i can't save it directly to my storage card?
Thanks,
Chuck

sinclac said:
Why is it when i download a file on my PC from the net i can't save it directly to my storage card?
Thanks,
Chuck
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EDIT:
I misread that. Retracting my retarded advice
Dave

You can't save files to the phone with ActiveSync. If you want to save it directly to the card use a reader or a utility like WM5torage.

You can, if..
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You can, if you take the storage card out of the phone, put it in a card reader and plug that into your computer.. Then it should recognize as a mass-storage device and you can save directly to it!
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Not flaming, just being silly. The last poster answered your question.

Thanks guy for the Help, i just need to change my way of thinking.

Actually you can do it directly through the phone. The trick is to copy and paste the files in instead of dragging and dropping. It works fine for me.
-J

Yep, I second that - I'm using XP (dunno if it's different in Vista?) but you should have a 'Mobile Device' under the 'Other' category in Windows Explorer?
Just open this up like any other drive, you will see your My Documents folder in your system memory, double click on 'My Windows Mobile Based Device' to get to your phone's system memory root, you should then see a 'Storage Card' folder which you can then copy and paste to / from just as you would with any other folder...

[Q] How to View SD Card Content from Vivid?

How does one view the content of the SD Card from the Vivid device itself?
I can connect the Vivid to my PC via USB cable and view the SD Card as a separate drive on the PC, but cannot see how to view the SD Card content from within the device.
Suggestions? TIA.

Get a file explorer app from the marketplace. Try Astro.
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DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
How does one view the content of the SD Card from the Vivid device itself?
I can connect the Vivid to my PC via USB cable and view the SD Card as a separate drive on the PC, but cannot see how to view the SD Card content from within the device.
Suggestions? TIA.
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First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.

brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard.
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How does one access the root directory? Is that what the file manager app does?
(New to Android, and still in the learning phase.)

DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
How does one access the root directory? Is that what the file manager app does?
(New to Android, and still in the learning phase.)
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Don't feel alone. I just came from several years on the old Windows Mobile. In the file manager, I click on the Up icon until it won't go any further. You will see only a '/' in the address/location bar near the top. You will likely see folders such as acct, app-cache, config, sys, sysytem, etc., as well as mnt, sdcard and sdcard2. Tap on the sdcard2 folder icon, and you will see any folders you have on your external SD card.
In Astro, you can specifiy where the program opens when it starts. It can be the root directry, the exteranl SD card or any other location.
By the way, the other poster likes Astro. It comes with other tools. The "free" version has ads, but it might have a paid version. And it does come with an Exit button, something missing from a lot of Android apps.

brucegil said:
Don't feel alone. I just came from several years on the old Windows Mobile. In the file manager, I click on the Up icon until it won't go any further. You will see only a '/' in the address/location bar near the top. You will likely see folders such as acct, app-cache, config, sys, sysytem, etc., as well as mnt, sdcard and sdcard2. Tap on the sdcard2 folder icon, and you will see any folders you have on your external SD card.
In Astro, you can specifiy where the program opens when it starts. It can be the root directry, the exteranl SD card or any other location.
By the way, the other poster likes Astro. It comes with other tools. The "free" version has ads, but it might have a paid version. And it does come with an Exit button, something missing from a lot of Android apps.
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Thanks much!

brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.
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/sdcard is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard/ its the same thing, just a 'shortcut' to the actual mounted partition located in /mnt
/sdcard2 is a symlink to /mnt/ext_sd/ same thing, just a 'shortcut'
the actual ROOT system is inaccessible unless you have root access and an app that can see it, like root explorer, or es file manager. there are probably a few others that can get into the actual root of the filesystem.

Pirateghost said:
/sdcard is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard/ its the same thing, just a 'shortcut' to the actual mounted partition located in /mnt
/sdcard2 is a symlink to /mnt/ext_sd/ same thing, just a 'shortcut'
the actual ROOT system is inaccessible unless you have root access and an app that can see it, like root explorer, or es file manager. there are probably a few others that can get into the actual root of the filesystem.
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Thanks for the explanation. What I meant by "root" was the top level of the file system, e.g. C:\ on a Windows PC. "Root" apparently has a different meaning in the Android OS.
ES File Manager was the other highly rated file manager, along with Astro when I searched for "file manager" in the Market.

brucegil said:
Thanks for the explanation. What I meant by "root" was the top level of the file system, e.g. C:\ on a Windows PC. "Root" apparently has a different meaning in the Android OS.
ES File Manager was the other highly rated file manager, along with Astro when I searched for "file manager" in the Market.
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root in linux and subsequently, android, has an entirely different meaning.
in a sense, you have it right. / in linux/android is the root of the filesystem, equivalent to C:\ in windows pcs.
without having root (superuser access) on linux/android, you cant see the / or most of the directories below it. the general user only has direct access to storage, like /sdcard, /sdcard2 (also referred to as ext_sd, or sd_ext)

brucegil said:
First, you need to get a file manager application from the market. There are many of them, mostly free or low cost. I'm not crazy about Astro, the one I downloaded, but it works. Look at some others.
On my Vivid in the root directory is a folder called sdcard. That is the 8.83 GB user portion internal memory portion of the "16 GB" internal memory. Also, I have a folder called sdcard2. It's the 32 GB micro SD card I installed.
Interestingly, there is also a folder in the root directory called mnt. Under it is a folder called sdcard. It is the same as the sdcard under the root directory. Under mnt/sdcard is ext_sd. That is the 32 GB external SD card. I don't know if this duplicate listing is the work of the file manager app, or if it is the Android OS, but I am able to find files and copy files from one place to another.
With me making no changes for applications and data during application installations (I'm not sure I can), all of the apps I have installed have gone into the other portion of internal memory. The data seems to be going into the user portion of internal memory. When I installed the external SD card, I copied music files to it from my PC. The music player found them with no problem. Also, once the card was installed, photos I took were placed on the external SD card instead of internal memory.
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I was wondering about this, can we Not access the rest of this 16GB ...what happened to the other 8GB...?
I too just made the Jump from WM 6.5 (<-- nightmare), so I have no clue how a lot of things work too. ;P hehe I'm a noob again ;P

StrangeShadow said:
I was wondering about this, can we Not access the rest of this 16GB ...what happened to the other 8GB...?
I too just made the Jump from WM 6.5 (<-- nightmare), so I have no clue how a lot of things work too. ;P hehe I'm a noob again ;P
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the phone is marketed as having 16gb of onboard storage, but in reality, 1gb is dedicated to the ROM, aka /system
4gb is dedicated to /data which handles app installs and the like.
the remaining is storage for you to use.
be lucky you have all that. my other HTC phones all just had a mere 2gb or 4gb TOTAL storage (all allocated to /system and /data), which required you to have an SDCard just to be able to take pics or put music/movies/ringtones on it....

Pirateghost said:
the phone is marketed as having 16gb of onboard storage, but in reality, 1gb is dedicated to the ROM, aka /system
4gb is dedicated to /data which handles app installs and the like.
the remaining is storage for you to use.
be lucky you have all that. my other HTC phones all just had a mere 2gb or 4gb TOTAL storage (all allocated to /system and /data), which required you to have an SDCard just to be able to take pics or put music/movies/ringtones on it....
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Wow! Yeah I figured at least a Gig for the Rom. The rest is pretty nuts though, any way we can see a detailed breakdown on our phone? Didn't expect it to be so much.
Can we install apps on the sd card, like some WM apps?

[Q] Applications to external sd

Hi, everyone.
I have a question if somebody is able to copy or move applications to external sd card either with rooted stock or custom rom. What applications or mods did you do to enable such option?

tsokh said:
Hi, everyone.
I have a question if somebody is able to copy or move applications to external sd card either with rooted stock or custom rom. What applications or mods did you do to enable such option?
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Im having the same problem as well. my Internal storage is half way getting there and None of the apps that I installed does not have the option to be transferred to ext_SD

Ok, after 2 days of searching over the web and forums I found a workaround for moving apps on external SD (working only on rooted phones).
1) Download and install FolderMount program from Google Play store.
2) Open the program, tap on "+", enter name (any alias), source folder of the app, and destination (external sd with the same folder already created or choose automatic method), then tap on check mark.
3) Wait till the program copies the application to external sd and creates link. After you need to tap on pin icon and it'll turn to green.
If you get some notification, just click "Yes".
P.S.
Don't delete the folder with the moved app in your internal memory, as it'll also delete the app from external SD. If you want to check if the program moved, unpin the program and browse to the app folder in your internal memory and you won't see the files there. FolderMount creates the link to the application in internal memory to trick Android. Every time Android requests the application, it passes the request to its internal memory and after goes via the link to external SD. That is the only trick that worked for me.

I read on the butterfly 901s/e forum thread and it said something about fat32

I have Kingston 64gb formated in FAT32, don't know if Android works properly with exFAT or ext format. You can't format 64gb SD card in FAT32 with Windows, but you can install other partition wizards like Minitool Partition Wizard to format it.

Does the old setinstalllocation trick work here?

SquareBare said:
Does the old setinstalllocation trick work here?
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If you mean "set pm install location" command, then no. I tried that trick, however programs didn't even install on internal memory after I used the command. I left it as default "0".

tsokh said:
If you mean "set pm install location" command, then no. I tried that trick, however programs didn't even install on internal memory after I used the command. I left it as default "0".
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Thanks a lot. I think I can do everything I need to do with foldermount so it should all work out.
Also got a 70mbps read SD card! Phone comes in later today!

Does the micro SDXC work in the butterfly s
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Yes, works with microSDXC up to 64gb in FAT32, couldn't manage to use external sd card in other formats like exFAT or NTFS.

PLEASE change path in Ativ S to install apps to SD card

Now there is all this new progress with unlocked Ativ S' can some clever hacker please allow apps to be installed direct to SD card. Maybe via a registry edit. This was done for the Microsoft Surface so may be possible in the Ativ S. The following is taken direct from my hints and tips thread for the Surface...
52. Install Apps Direct to SD Card
By default only media files can be installed to the SD cards and apps are installed to internal memory. If you have a 32gig tablet, you will realise internal memory is precious and limited. Free up internal memory by changing the location of where apps are installed. Run Regedit and navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Appx and change the location path of the PackageRoot key from C:\ProgramFiles\WindowsApps to say D:\WindowsApps (where D: is the drive letter of your SD card and WindowsApps is the name of a folder you created in your SD card). You may need to change permissions on the Appx registry folder so that you can edit the key. You can also change the app repository to another directory by changing the PackageRepository key in a similar manner.
PLEASE!!!

Currently, we can't even browse the SD card, much less install apps there. It's not even mounted at a visible path. I'll post if I find a way, though.

GoodDayToDie said:
Currently, we can't even browse the SD card, much less install apps there. It's not even mounted at a visible path. I'll post if I find a way, though.
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Thank you sir! Good luck!

tboy2000 said:
Thank you sir! Good luck!
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Looking at the fs directly, i'd say that everything is mounted through Mount point, like android/Linux do.

Don't be too sure it's a user-mode visible mount point, though. There's a special DLL in System32 for accessing the SD card. It may just be mounted on a different drive letter - -WOLF-'s hack accesses C:\ specifically, though it could access others - but there's no reference to an actual path for it anywhere that I can see.