now the deisre phone is getting an update for 720 p recoring and such and why cant the nexus get an update with more features????? is this possible will we see such features coming out for our beloved nexus one??? cmon!!
i know we already got 720 with rooted phones but none rooted i mean??
I asked about this earlier and apparently google dosent care about nexua one owners and we will never get feature updates. Kinda makes me mad when i was choosing between an n1 and desire. The only thing hding me off the desire was north american 3g but now it has it.
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I asked about this earlier and apparently google dosent care about nexua one owners and we will never get feature updates. Kinda makes me mad when i was choosing between an n1 and desire. The only thing hding me off the desire was north american 3g but now it has it.
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right? i actually might get the htc evo or some other phone because of this reason....dont get me wrong guys nexus is a nice phone but the lack of updates and now basically no one is really selling it means obsolete....sorry...
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I asked about this earlier and apparently google dosent care about nexua one owners and we will never get feature updates. Kinda makes me mad when i was choosing between an n1 and desire. The only thing hding me off the desire was north american 3g but now it has it.
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really?
the nexus one is still google's dev phone of choice and will be selling it through their dev page.
not to mention that it got froyo before any other device.
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really?
the nexus one is still google's dev phone of choice and will be selling it through their dev page.
not to mention that it got froyo before any other device.
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beside if any the os updates where are the manufacture updates?? htc??? adding radio and such and 720 p and much more??? not been rooted of course??
it is Google Nexus one, not HTC Nexus one. Google is responsible for updates.
Even though they have stopped the retail store, that doesn't mean they stopped supporting the phone.
It will be sold to devs and as far as we know Google will still update as, as it is their flagship device.
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beside if any the os updates where are the manufacture updates?? htc??? adding radio and such and 720 p and much more??? not been rooted of course??
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Google already added a new radio with FroYo. As mentioned, HTC is out of the picture
I believe he meant FM radio
We will get the regular os updates but apparently google wont add features like 720p video or fm radio even though the n1 supports it.
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If you bought a nexus one for support from google shame on you. Its about the developer community and 720p video for nexus one has been around for months on cyanogen's roms.
Not rooting your nexus one is wasting your devices potential. Get another phone if you don't want to root
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If you bought a nexus one for support from google shame on you. Its about the developer community and 720p video for nexus one has been around for months on cyanogen's roms.
Not rooting your nexus one is wasting your devices potential. Get another phone if you don't want to root
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i know it has but all tend to struggle like for example the fm radio still a failure if only we had drivers for such on the nexus one but still no realease and from who?? google??
I didnt buy the n1 for google's support but i atleast thought they would let the phone work at its full potential( fm radio , 720p video, wireless N) Even though google dosent want to support it why not give the developer community a break and atleast give them the drivers and let them implement it. as for not rooting my phone, i dont want to void my warranty with over 10 months remaining in it, I'm not saying i wont root i will root it later on but for now i'll keep it stock for atleast till my warranty is over.
Every loves to rave about how awesome it is to have "vanilla android" on the nexus one.
Well, here we are, this IS vanilla android......and it's not that exciting. Until you see native HD recording* support in AOSP you won't see it on the nexus.
*won't happen soon as it's hardware dependent and not ubiquitous yet, by the time HD video recording on camera phones because run of the mill, well the nexus will be sitting in the same position the g1 is right now.
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I didnt buy the n1 for google's support but i atleast thought they would let the phone work at its full potential( fm radio , 720p video, wireless N) Even though google dosent want to support it why not give the developer community a break and atleast give them the drivers and let them implement it. as for not rooting my phone, i dont want to void my warranty with over 10 months remaining in it, I'm not saying i wont root i will root it later on but for now i'll keep it stock for atleast till my warranty is over.
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There's nothing to "give" developers. Google Nexus team never looked into HD recording support, or FM radio support, that means there's not drivers, no nothing. They're not sitting on safe filled with magical files. The only reason the latest 2.2 update has N driver support is because qualcomm wrote the drivers for a chip that is in nearly every single handheld wifi device.
The desire is currently getting support for 720p video and it has support for fm radio, that technically means we have the necessary drivers to enable fm radio and 720p video recording on nexus one which should have the same quality as the desire. just wondering has anyone actually got the froyo update on the desire and has any dev been able to pull the drivers out the desire software?
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The desire is currently getting support for 720p video and it has support for fm radio, that technically means we have the necessary drivers to enable fm radio and 720p video recording on nexus one which should have the same quality as the desire. just wondering has anyone actually got the froyo update on the desire and has any dev been able to pull the drivers out the desire software?
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HTC manages that stuff for desire.
Googles manages that stuff for nexus.
Different companies, different priorities.
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HTC manages that stuff for desire.
Googles manages that stuff for nexus.
Different companies, different priorities.
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Yeah but hardware wise the devices are identical, so wouldnt the drivers be identical?
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Yeah but hardware wise the devices are identical, so wouldnt the drivers be identical?
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Yes and no, but that's not even the issue. Htc has no incentive to share it's work with google, unless google pays for it, which they have shown they are not interested in. They are competing companies when it comes to selling a retail phone.
Yeah I don’t understand the people that get a nexus one and don’t root.. I honestly feel that’s the whole point of the “dev phone”... If you don’t root, there are many other android phone out there that have superior stock features and hardware.... And froyo is only 1-2 months released earlier on the n1...
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if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?
That is Exactly what I am doing! The desire HD looks wonderful, but i think There will be a VERY nice phone coming on T mobile with new gingerbread already there around Christmas....Just my guess
It seems T mobile and Google have some sort of special deal when it comes to android, like getting stock android phones.....and there MUST be a stock gingerbread phone coming soon!
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if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?
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First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1. Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better. The N1 has an awesome modding scene though.
First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1.
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nobody know that for sure...the minimal requirements may suit the N1 but it may lack the ability to perform certain tasks. we've seen it happen with other phones.
Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better
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true for most cases. to me nexus is different from others by design. that phone feels right. i really couldn't care less about all these samsungs or motorolas that are out there. and other htc devices seem too big like the desire HD that was mentioned.
basicly, the world need a NEXUS TWO!
So you think Google will develop an OS using their development phone, but not all features of the OS will work on the phone they developed it on? I highly doubt that. Google debunked the minimum requirements roomer for Gingerbread, that was nothing but a site trying to get traffic. Do a little thinking on the subject.
If I were getting a new phone soon though, I would wait till the next gen ones come out. I do love my Nexus though!
the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.
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the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.
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Whether or not Gingerbread includes a facetime like option is irrelevant to how it will run on the N1. Obviously any phone without a front-facing camera will not be able to do something like facetime. Gingerbread itself will run just fine on the N1. Without going into any technical reasons, just think of this. Of all the Android phones out there right now, the top ones are all in the general vicinity of the N1 in performance. If Gingerbread wouldn't run on the N1, then you cut out these phones too which means only as-yet-unreleased phones would run Gingerbread. So on what basis are you questioning it?
You should probably wait though since you don't seem sure about the N1. The only guarantee you can have is that in a few months from now an even better phone will be released. And then a few months from that once again, and repeat... Dual core snapdragons will start finding their way into phones at some point soon. If you're not rushed then just wait and see what comes out.
Hey guys,
what do you think, is it possible to port the Android 2.3 Gingerbread from Nexus S to our Samsung Galaxy S. Because it has a similar hardware!
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You're fast , just wanted to ask this. Hope some legend dude will do this.
Theoretically it should be very simple to port the software. The only difference I can see from a hardware perspective is the NFC chip which simply needs to be disabled in software, and the missing search button which will need to be mapped to a menu long-press.
I did some work on the NITDroid project back when I had an N900, and neither of these is particularly difficult to do.
For nexus S info:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=samsung-galaxy-s
will the iNAND be a problem?
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
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Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
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yea the Nexus use the 16gb iNAND...
Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
It must be far easier than a sense port or even cyanogen port.
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One thing that also caught my eye was, that the video recording isn't HD... probably to not throw away boatloads of RAM for the camera...
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Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
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I wouldn't bet on that. If Sammy released 2.3 in short order for the SGS it would cannibalize Nexus S sales. The aftermarket community is still the best bet.
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i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
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GPS is the same! Both using A-GPS Chips. The NFC Software must be Disabled, Bluethooth Updated to 3.0, Nexus S has only 2.1 and Video Recording Updated to 1280x720, Nexus S had 720x480
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Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
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Thats the biggest problem, I think. SuperCurios Tweet to iNand Tweet
Leandros
This a premature thread. Once a dump or aosp is released only then can we begin to do something about it. Till then this is a discussion thread and not related to development. IMHO
What about rfs? Im sure google is not using it. We will have to work that out as well.
2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
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2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
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Everything is virtually the same.
I call up one the powers of the all powerful XDA to port the N:S for all the SGS's that are out there, so we can forget about samsung roms and use a normal google one
The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
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The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
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Maybe... but I can live without an external SDCARD for now...
Did someone try porting the WP7 to the N1??
Not possible.
More importantly... WHY?
That'd be like taking the motor out of a Honda Civic and sticking it in a Lamborghini Gallardo. Fail.
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Not possible.
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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he has a point
I think it could be a great idea, because, for example, I really want our Nexus One to be like the HTC HD2! Been able to "work" also with other OSes..
Plus, Windows Phone 7 seems to be very snappy and minimal!
Android is obviously better, but I really want to try the Seven
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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
I think the HD7 is pretty much the same device as the HD2?
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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First of all I'm glad to know that my curiosirty has interest with other people as well.
second, the reason for the WHY is of course curiosity, and the fact that the N1 is a capable device and it'll be interesting to see how it would function with other OS.
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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I with I had the money to carry as much devices as I wanted to.
That's the reason I wanted the N1, and Android for that matter, to be flexible...
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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
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That's handy then, as teardowns show the HTC Surround is basically a Nexus One.
HD2 runs Android awfully, compared to N1. I couldn't stand looking at it stuttering all over the place where N1 flies.
The other problem for this port is bootloader and FS compatibility. While it could probably be overcome, it might not be straightforward, just as it's quite hard to install Windows and Linux on the same partition, both using different native FS. On WM phones there is many-years-old way of loading other systems "under" Windows (I'm not really into details, but AFAIK the other system doesn't load from bootloader, but from early stages of WM kernel - which is the reason why WM-loaded OSes run like crap). On Android phones, it doesn't work that way, and there is no universally used way of loading other OSes.
And the biggest problem for all the curious would probably be just that no dev has taken interest in doing it.
if HTC 7 Surround is simular to N1, is it possible to port the whole bootloader and system of surround to N1. and and run Android "on the top" of WP7 just like what HD2 does
this could be a very very interesting project... as there are quite a few developers currently working on a WP7 like launcher for android. and if we could run wp7 it would be a pretty amazing.
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Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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for AT&T 3G?
Edit: Ok, I guess the Telstra HD2 had AT&T 3G bands, so you could import the phone at a premium. i can't find it on Ebay, but the Cell2Get.com has it for a reasonable $831.99. it better be the greatest ever
I would love trying wp7 on my nexus. The OS interests me, not enough though to shell out for an entire new phone. Especially since all the wp7 phones really aren't special hardware wise.
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So....
What does it take to port an OS??
do we need a new bootloader? do we need the WP7 source code?
You will never get WP7 source code.
I guess you'd need a complete dump from the Surround to work from.
Hi guys(and girls), in 2011, should I get an original Droid? If I bought one it would be my first android phone, i've flashed a custom rom on a windows phone before but i don't know how to root yet, but would it be good for me to get a Droid now? With the newer phones that are out?
Honestly just get a newer and better phone for free. There are many free phones out there that are better hardware and software wise like the inspire 4g(which I have)
I'll pass on a contract.
Juanito216 said:
Hi guys(and girls), in 2011, should I get an original Droid? If I bought one it would be my first android phone, i've flashed a custom rom on a windows phone before but i don't know how to root yet, but would it be good for me to get a Droid now? With the newer phones that are out?
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yes! I have one aswell and I can show you or message you on how to
and how to flash roms just like i did
no.
i think a nexus is way better supportet.
google is developing right on the nexus phones. i would by one of these. and not a doird again.
Thanks for the replies, I might wait to get something more advanced. Good things come to those who wait.
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no.
i think a nexus is way better supportet.
google is developing right on the nexus phones. i would by one of these. and not a doird again.
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That thing is freaking expensive
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If I was buying my first Android right now (I bought the Milestone in September of '10) I might look at the Nexus one. I think Amazon has it for around $280, new. The screen size is the same but I think it's a little faster and is obviously better supported.
Consider buying a device with more RAM than droid.
Also you should answer a question, whether you are confortable with touchscreen virtual keyboard or not - I'm not, so I took Milestone
I would consider a keyboardless device ie EVO/HD2/Thunderbolt(big screens), my sister had a Cliq XT at one time and i tried texting on that, my thumbs were kind of big for the buttons?
Well guys, I got a Droid X today.
I've had my Droid for 2 years now and it's been a great device. The development community has been great and there are still a lot of good ROM a currently being developed and supported for it.
While it might not have the most memory, most apps can be pushed to SD. The processor overclocks to 1g (and usually even higher), so it can still match the quadrant scores of many newer phones.
If the price is right, and you want to experiment with rooting and flashing ROMs, not many other phones have as much community support and it's next to impossible to brick a Droid.
I have my Droid (Milestone, actually) for more than a year now and can't say anything bad about the device itself. When it comes down to Motorola, we're talking about a different sport
Motorola's update policy had me waiting for FroYo for months and when it came out, it was a beta-versions, months old that gave a lot of people WLAN-problems. Also the use of the bootloader is a real pain.
If you're willing to install a custom ROM, you're fine, there are good ones out there (I'm using FroyoMOD), but due to the company's update (and bootloader) policy, my next device won't be a Motorola.
So I guess im super lucky and finally got Android Auto in my Sonata 2015 but it doesnt work with The Verizon Lg G3.... Its one of three phones that it doesnt work for supposedly... Im wondering if there is some kind of workaround? There has to be!? Ive tried multiple roms and options but cant seem to figure out how to get it to work for my device! If anyone can help me out that would be amazing! :laugh:
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Verizon Lg G3.... Its one of three phones that it doesnt work for supposedly...
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Just FYI, it would be "1 of 3 of the MOST POPULAR new phones" running stock Lollipop+ that Google has tested.
I'm sure there is a huge list of less popular phones that aren't working, but Google has only done positive/negative testing on the most popular. Fragmentation is a problem for Google too.
Maybe that will make you feel slightly less bad.
Sorry I don't have an answer for your actual question.
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Just FYI, it would be "1 of 3 of the MOST POPULAR new phones" running stock Lollipop+ that Google has tested.
I'm sure there is a huge list of less popular phones that aren't working, but Google has only done positive/negative testing on the most popular. Fragmentation is a problem for Google too.
Maybe that will make you feel slightly less bad.
Sorry I don't have an answer for your actual question.
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yeah that's true but as far as Im aware if it has lollipop it should work regardless and if someone doesn't have lollipop I doubt they would have android auto. Its just annoying because every other variant of this phone works with android auto and it seems like something someone on XDA could fix before Verizon gives out an update... which would be months from now if that! Guess I just have to wait or buy a new phone which im too cheap to do!
Or flash cyanogen 12? (Not 12.1) the last 12 official build works fine.
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So I guess im super lucky and finally got Android Auto in my Sonata 2015 but it doesnt work with The Verizon Lg G3.... Its one of three phones that it doesnt work for supposedly... Im wondering if there is some kind of workaround? There has to be!? Ive tried multiple roms and options but cant seem to figure out how to get it to work for my device! If anyone can help me out that would be amazing! [emoji23]
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This is why I'm not on Verizon, and why I don't buy phones with heavily OEM modified Android. You risk it not working with the latest and greatest that Google puts out.
I have always stuck with Nexus (or recently) Motorola devices. As much as I liked the G3 (and the G4 even more), I want to play with all things Android, so better to stay with vanilla Android as much as possible.
Solutions Etcetera said:
This is why I'm not on Verizon, and why I don't buy phones with heavily OEM modified Android. You risk it not working with the latest and greatest that Google puts out.
I have always stuck with Nexus (or recently) Motorola devices. As much as I liked the G3 (and the G4 even more), I want to play with all things Android, so better to stay with vanilla Android as much as possible.
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I always try and make my phones as vanilla android as possible. But I think Im just gonna buy a Nexus 6 and stick my sim into it for now and then sell my G3 on swappa. Ive never owned a Nexus phone before because I never had spare money but I have a new job (salary based finally!) So I think im gonna just treat myself, ive always wanted a Nexus phone as well!.
Happy Nexus Sixing!