[Q] USB Li-Po battey does not charge Streak - Streak 5 Accessories

As the title. Oddly the streak will be powered by it when the battery is removed (it shows the "battery missing" screen.
The battery I have is a third-party Chinese thing I got from the amazon market. It seems to do the job for other handsets I have (HTC Raph, Couple of nokia handset)
Is there anything I can do to make it work?

The USB input on the Streak requires 1000ma @5v to charge so many of the chargers on the market won't work. I just picked up a Just Mobile Gum Pro 4400mA from Amazon and it seems to work fine. I haven't had a chance to check it out yet other than to make sure the Streak shows "charging" when it's plugged in.
Here's a link.
***amazon.com/gp/product/B001BWQTOC/ref=oss_product***

Thanks for your info. Would appreciate if you could post your findings later.

phjnky said:
The USB input on the Streak requires 1000ma @5v to charge so many of the chargers on the market won't work. I just picked up a Just Mobile Gum Pro 4400mA from Amazon and it seems to work fine. I haven't had a chance to check it out yet other than to make sure the Streak shows "charging" when it's plugged in.
Here's a link.
***amazon.com/gp/product/B001BWQTOC/ref=oss_product***
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Phjnky, have you tested it further? How long does it take to charge the streak and how many charges can you get out of this?
Does anyone else has any external battery to recommend?

Found Duracell CEF23-UK on amazon which seems like a very good idea. But it only output at 1.4v, 360mha which is useless for the streak. Does anyone know anything similar that can charge the streak?

The mobile gum pro works really well. Went on a trip and used it to power and recharge the streak. I dont recall but it seemed to recharge maybe twice from around 25% or so. It does charge rapidly about like the wall charger but I was using gogo inflight Internet and listening to Pandora, reading blogs etc while it charged. It kept the Streak going all day while on two long flights. I never fully ran it out of juice but got down to one bar.
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sounds good. Might get one.

Hi all,
I also have this problem, after power off streak, i discover third party band name "MOMAX" look like charging but if i press power button once time haven't charging screen show on streak screen, only genuine powersupply or charging with pc on usb can do this job, would you have any advise ? because i can't find genuine battery in hong kong, thanks a lot

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[Q] External Battery

Found this external battery with good pricing. Anyone tried this? Does it work with NC?
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083311&p_id=7664&seq=1&format=4#feedback
It certainly should work.
The connections are a little confusing. The male micro-USB coming off the top suggests that you need to connect it to your nook, which would make the whole thing a little unweildy. Also, how is it charged? From a PC? From a AC/USB adapter?
I bought a couple of these:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-re...emergency-power-with-cell-phones-holder-44749
They're only 2000 mAh, but you can connect them to the nook with the proprietary nook USB cable. Even though they're rated at 1A, my nook recognizes as 2A...
Bonus: built in fold up wall charger.
Not-so-bonus: DealExtreme ships from Hong Kong. Delivery time is measured using the geologic time scale.
ks88 said:
Found this external battery with good pricing. Anyone tried this? Does it work with NC?
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083311&p_id=7664&seq=1&format=4#feedback
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I actually have one. It works with my EVO, but not the Nook Color. You can look at the reviews for the item and see others have similiar issues with other micro USB devices. I think I'm going to order a M/F micro usb extension cable from ebay....hopefully it helps this work with my NC.
Micro USB M/F Extension
Johnny,
Are you sure its not charging? The output of the device is 800mA, and the output of the stock charger is 2000mA. So although it may be charging slowly, the nook would not report it as charging. Would you be able to plug it in and leave it for a while and see if the battery% increases?
I'm positive it's not charging. The micro USB seems to be slightly different than "standard" and thus, doesn't fit all the way into the port on the NC. I can try one more time when I get home today, but I don't think it'll go.
I wish this wasn't the case and I've tried it a handful of times when I first bought it. I've only been using it on my phone lately...
Ah ok - if you get the cable and it works let us know It is a good price even with the cable (about $20 total with battery shipping and free shipping for cable), and if that works it would be pretty sweet!
dennisi01 said:
Ah ok - if you get the cable and it works let us know It is a good price even with the cable (about $20 total with battery shipping and free shipping for cable), and if that works it would be pretty sweet!
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I'll keep you posted. I had been debating whether or not to buy the cable, but for $5 and I can extend the use of my charger, I finally figured it'd be worth it....that and the fact that I want to help people out here so no one buys the charger itself thinking it'll work.
I ordered that cable yesterday, so when I get it (from China) I'll let you know whether it works or not.
johnny15 said:
I'll keep you posted. I had been debating whether or not to buy the cable, but for $5 and I can extend the use of my charger, I finally figured it'd be worth it....that and the fact that I want to help people out here so no one buys the charger itself thinking it'll work.
I ordered that cable yesterday, so when I get it (from China) I'll let you know whether it works or not.
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I'm interested to know too. Thanks alot bro!
Ok. I got that battery from Monoprice, and it charges my nook without any hassle.
Just need to be a little bit precise on plugging it into the micro USB female on the nook.
jemping said:
Ok. I got that battery from Monoprice, and it charges my nook without any hassle.
Just need to be a little bit precise on plugging it into the micro USB female on the nook.
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Well, mine does not....wonder what the difference is???
Jgrimoldy said:
It certainly should work.
The connections are a little confusing. The male micro-USB coming off the top suggests that you need to connect it to your nook, which would make the whole thing a little unweildy. Also, how is it charged? From a PC? From a AC/USB adapter?
I bought a couple of these:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-re...emergency-power-with-cell-phones-holder-44749
They're only 2000 mAh, but you can connect them to the nook with the proprietary nook USB cable. Even though they're rated at 1A, my nook recognizes as 2A...
Bonus: built in fold up wall charger.
Not-so-bonus: DealExtreme ships from Hong Kong. Delivery time is measured using the geologic time scale.
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I'm interested in a similar charger, but with 2400mah.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
Does it work with your android phone? A lot of after market chargers makes the touch screen unusable while charging. Does it work both while plugged into the wall and using the internal battery?
Interesting topic.
Let me see if I got this straight.
This device has double function?
-If Nc needs charging, U just plug this device and U can have extra power on the move?
-Also, it gets connected to normal wall plug and through this U charge your NOOK?It can work as alternative nook charger (but for sure in slower rate)??
I bought an Energizer XP2000 for about $35 at an OfficeMax (they're widely available). 2000 mAh capacity, weighs about 2oz, comes with its own cord with six different ends for different devices. I plugged it into my fully-charged Nook at 10,000 ft out of Seattle, watched non-stop video at 70% brightness in Airplane Mode for nearly five hours to Baltimore and still had 58% battery left on my Nook (the Energizer was discharged). Other chargers in the line go up to an insane XP1800 that'll power a LAPTOP for six hours!
The sweet spot for me is probably the XP8000. It's max output is 3500mA vs. 500mA for the XP2000, it's the size of two iPod Classics stacked on one another but weighs a little less and it should keep me going for a looong trip. It's $100 so its not an impulse buy (at least for me) but seems like an essential tool for the long distance traveler.
http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/products/xp2000/
rcboosted said:
I'm interested in a similar charger, but with 2400mah.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
Does it work with your android phone? A lot of after market chargers makes the touch screen unusable while charging. Does it work both while plugged into the wall and using the internal battery?
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I use this with my nook. I can't answer any questions related to workability with Android phones. That's not this forum.
While using this device to charge my nook, my nook is completely usable. It will charge my nook when the device is plugged into the wall. It will also charge my nook when it's not plugged into the wall (it is a battery, after all). In either situation, my nook is completely usable when connected to this.
I use this battery with my proprietary nook charging cable.
Jgrimoldy said:
I use this with my nook. I can't answer any questions related to workability with Android phones. That's not this forum.
While using this device to charge my nook, my nook is completely usable. It will charge my nook when the device is plugged into the wall. It will also charge my nook when it's not plugged into the wall (it is a battery, after all). In either situation, my nook is completely usable when connected to this.
I use this battery with my proprietary nook charging cable.
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Thanks for this report. My nook goes crazy when I use the same aftermarket charger that makes my phone unusable while charging. It acts as if someone is hitting the screen randomly very quickly. If you're not having issue with the nook on this charger, I'm confident it won't have issues with my phone either. I will order 1 and find out for sure.
lesdense said:
I bought an Energizer XP2000 for about $35 at an OfficeMax (they're widely available). 2000 mAh capacity, weighs about 2oz, comes with its own cord with six different ends for different devices. I plugged it into my fully-charged Nook at 10,000 ft out of Seattle ...
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Wonderful report. I'm in the market for an external battery. A couple of questions if I may.
So one of the 6 tips works with an NC? I thought the NC's cord and tip were special to enable the quick charging. Do the Energizer products support this technology?
At dealextreme there is also 3000 battery. Why not using that?
The bigger the better right?
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d.v said:
Wonderful report. I'm in the market for an external battery. A couple of questions if I may.
So one of the 6 tips works with an NC? I thought the NC's cord and tip were special to enable the quick charging. Do the Energizer products support this technology?
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The micro USB tip that comes with the Energizer works fine with the Nook. I don't know about "fast charge" vs. "slow charge" and all that but it definitely works. One SUBSTANTIAL advantage of the XP2000 over the larger capacity models (of the Energizer line) is that you can use any USB-to-mini USB cable, including the one that comes with it, and plug it into either a USB power plug adapter or a USB port on a computer to charge it. The XP4000, XP8000 and XP18000 all require their own power adapter. It's included in the purchase of course but I don't like carrying around another cord. Not a deal-breaker, just a factor.
johnny15 said:
I'll keep you posted. I had been debating whether or not to buy the cable, but for $5 and I can extend the use of my charger, I finally figured it'd be worth it....that and the fact that I want to help people out here so no one buys the charger itself thinking it'll work.
I ordered that cable yesterday, so when I get it (from China) I'll let you know whether it works or not.
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Well, I said I'd update once I recieved my extension cable, so here it is...
I finally received my extension cable and it allows me to use my Monoprice charger with my Nook, so that's great. In the end, it wasn't needed. I ended up RMA'ing my charger back to Monoprice because the thing had a dull buzz when not being used and a high pitch noise when either charging a device or being charged. I'm happy to report that the new charger works with or without the extension cable on my Nook Color and on my EVO 4G. In the end though, I like the extension cable because it gives me more flexibility when using the charger.
Here are the links again...
Monoprice Charger
Extension Cable
lesdense said:
The micro USB tip that comes with the Energizer works fine with the Nook. I don't know about "fast charge" vs. "slow charge" and all that but it definitely works. One SUBSTANTIAL advantage of the XP2000 over the larger capacity models (of the Energizer line) is that you can use any USB-to-mini USB cable, including the one that comes with it, and plug it into either a USB power plug adapter or a USB port on a computer to charge it. The XP4000, XP8000 and XP18000 all require their own power adapter. It's included in the purchase of course but I don't like carrying around another cord. Not a deal-breaker, just a factor.
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Got it. The slow vs fast charge would be a good thing to know. Can you time a charge with the Energizer unit and one with the stock NC charger? If it can fast charge, the Energizer would make a great addition to the NC.
Thanks either way. The info has been helpful.

[Q] dealextreme dock and battery for dell streak 5?

Anyone have these 2?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-ac...able-car-charger-for-dell-mini-5-streak-59493
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...1530mah-lithium-battery-for-dell-mini-5-80156
How are they? I see another battery that is priced at $9.50, but it looks like its the exact same battery... for a higher price.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-7v-1530mah-rechargeable-battery-for-dell-mini-5-streak-59091
I don't have the charging dock so can't comment on it.
These two batteries look the same to me except the $5.80 one seems to have a yelloew sticker with a wholesales vendor's name on it. The $9.50 one shows an extra "Built-in safety and protective circuitries" feature in the description.
I have a different pack, SKU 57931, from them. It comes with a bettery but I am not sure if it is a $5.80 or $9.50 one since there is no serial # on the battery. After initial full charge, Streak uses about 25% per day. I have very mininum phone usage (few quick calls/texting/WiFi. I don't have 3G service).
Even it is a $5.80 one, it seems to be working fine for me.
BTW, it took a while to finally receive the shipment in US. (about 4 weeks after placing the order).
I have the charging dock. It works very well I use the streak as a bedside digital clock
at night while it charges. Good value as mine came with all cables and power supply.
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Careful using the dock / sparr charger it bent the pins in the port oem cable won't work now. Having my baby fixed
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Make sure you buy 3 .
I dont own either, but I do have a usb cable coming from them in a few days, as well as a zune cable amongst other things. Hope it isn't broken.
I got a USB cable from DX and it is very problematic - it causes the Streak to crash and/or drop its connection. I have a number of cables, both original Dell ones and aftermarket ones purchased from eBay, and none of these exhibit the same issue.
I have bought a LOT of stuff from DX over the years, and it is extremely rare to have any problems, so I guess that I just got a bad cable, but you may want to test yours carefully when you get it just in case there is a bad batch out there.
Philip said:
I got a USB cable from DX and it is very problematic - it causes the Streak to crash and/or drop its connection...
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Can you explain what you mean? I'm not too sure what your saying... it... causes the streak to freeze?! That's so strange!
Rev. Nathan said:
Can you explain what you mean? I'm not too sure what you're saying... it... causes the streak to freeze?!
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When I have the Streak connected to my PC (or to a USB power outlet) using the cable that I got from DealExtreme, it frequently reboots and/or loses the connection to the PC. This only happens with the DX cable (I have 4 genuine Dell cables plus 2 bought from eBay and none of them have this problem).
There is obviously a loose connection or short inside the cable.
As I said, I don't want to put anybody off from buying from DX, as I find it's very rare to have any problems with their items.
any problem with this dock and battery so far?
Will the Streak (with the Otterbox case) fit on the dealextreme dock?
Namelessboi said:
any problem with this dock and battery so far?
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Took a few weeks to get it but I finally got it. The dock is great, the only complaints I have is that the AC charger is only EU (thankfully I had my AC adapter from another Mini-USB device), the car charger can be easily disassembled because it's not glued, and you can't charge a spare battery AND your phone at the same time through AC power alone... if you want to charge them both at the same time, you must also use the USB adapter and connect the dock to a computer. There is an LED that changes from Red to Blue, depending on what it is charging at that moment. If you have your phone docked, it will charge the phone and the light will be Blue. If you insert a spare battery to be charged, the light will change to Red and only the spare battery will be charging.
I've been using the $5 spare battery for 3 days now and I must say it's as good as the original. Let's just see if it holds a charge after a few months!
uluvali said:
Will the Streak (with the Otterbox case) fit on the dealextreme dock?
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The answer to this is no, the Streak with Otterbox is too thick for it.

External Battery

Is there such a thing as an extended battery, external, for the Streak 7? Something in the 2700 to 3700ma range?
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Does the Streak 7 use the same battery as the 5" Streak?
Related to the above: I can't seem to find any information of what kind of battery the Streak 7 uses. Could it be the same battery as the original Streak (5")?
gerrychampoux said:
Related to the above: I can't seem to find any information of what kind of battery the Streak 7 uses. Could it be the same battery as the original Streak (5")?
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The streak 7 has a fixed battery and therefore the are no user replacements possible. The streak 5 has a normal battery cover. There is no battery cover on the S7.
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I know it has an internal battery. I'm thinking an external battery pack, not a replacement battery. Something like is available for many laptops. Something that can be plugged into the charg port on the Streak 7 and extend its run time.
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WorkingOnWise said:
I know it has an internal battery. I'm thinking an external battery pack, not a replacement battery. Something like is available for many laptops. Something that can be plugged into the charg port on the Streak 7 and extend its run time.
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Ah, of course. Well, just about anything that has a USB output would work, here is one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Battery-Powered-Emergency-Flashlight/dp/B003M9Z5F6/ref=pd_cp_cps_2
So from what I have read so far, there is no battery replacement for the streak 7? My streak 7's battery has gotten worse for some reason and I was hoping for a change. Does warranty cover replacing the battery inside?
crzayalex said:
So from what I have read so far, there is no battery replacement for the streak 7? My streak 7's battery has gotten worse for some reason and I was hoping for a change. Does warranty cover replacing the battery inside?
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It can be replaced at the factory. I'm not sure about the warranty. If it is really bad, it may be considered a faulty battery and be covered. But of course they cannot be responsible if the battery has simply been used a lot and is depleted.
External battery
one would work and last for a good amount of time.
check out amazon the have a battery backup that seems idealmade by isound.
I'm thinking about getting one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Portable-iPhone-Blackberry-Silver/dp/B00439G3WS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307800469&sr=8-1
16,000mAh would be nice to have on hand.
I would check the output voltage. The Streak 7 wall charger puts out 5.35 and charges fine. Standard USB is 5 and charges so slow it looks like it isn't. It took 9 hours for my streak 7 to charge from 60% to 100%. When in regular use, it will discharge even plugged in on USB, just not as fast. If this is following USB standards and putting out only 5vdc, you may be disappointed with that, or any, battery pack.
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It's not the voltage that is causing the slow charge, it's the amperage.
The Streak is similar to the iPhones and iPads in that it draws more than the ordinary PC or Hub USB port will supply. Normal PC USB ports are limited to 500mAh. Some hubs are known to supply 1,000mAh, but they're rare.
The iPad charger supplies 2,100mAh. The Streak 7 charger supplies 2,000mAh.
That's why the charger will charge up the Streak 7 much quicker than a PC or hub - roughly four times as fast.
Tom2112 said:
It's not the voltage that is causing the slow charge, it's the amperage.
The Streak is similar to the iPhones and iPads in that it draws more than the ordinary PC or Hub USB port will supply. Normal PC USB ports are limited to 500mAh. Some hubs are known to supply 1,000mAh, but they're rare.
The iPad charger supplies 2,100mAh. The Streak 7 charger supplies 2,000mAh.
That's why the charger will charge up the Streak 7 much quicker than a PC or hub - roughly four times as fast.
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I have a USB battery pack that provides 5vdc at 2700ma and when my streak 7 is plugged in, it does not charge after being plugged in for 20 minutes. But the streak battery gets down to 4% and holds for 3 more hours before totally dying. It's the voltage of the standard USB that is the biggest problem for an external power source. Normally u can plug a device into a battery pack like mine and recharge its battery. I use it a few times a week to recharge my phone. But the streak 7 needing 5.35 vdc means the best u can get is keeping it alive on an external source, but not actually recharge its internal battery.
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I'm confused W.O.W. I was wondering where you got the 5.35v for charging the streak, so I went and grabbed my dell wall charger and my t-mobile car charger. The wall charger does in fact say that it is supplying 5.35v (at 2 amps)! (Sorry, I didn't believe you until I saw it for myself. )
The thing that I find very strange is that my streak charges just fine in the car with my T-Mobile Dell Streak 7 charger, and it only outputs 5.0v (at 1 amp).
So... I'm wondering why yours is giving you grief... Hmmm...?
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I'm confused W.O.W. I was wondering where you got the 5.35v for charging the streak, so I went and grabbed my dell wall charger and my t-mobile car charger. The wall charger does in fact say that it is supplying 5.35v (at 2 amps)! (Sorry, I didn't believe you until I saw it for myself. )
The thing that I find very strange is that my streak charges just fine in the car with my T-Mobile Dell Streak 7 charger, and it only outputs 5.0v (at 1 amp).
So... I'm wondering why yours is giving you grief... Hmmm...?
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How long does the Streak 7 take to recharge at that current? I'm guessing about 6 hours?
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I haven't had the streak do a full charge in the car. But on my commute I get about 20% top-up from a 35 minute drive. So that should be about 2 1/2 to 3 hours for a full charge.
Oh how I long for the days when companies follow industry standards. And for the days when companies wait to put a product out until it was ready. * Hey Dell, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Barnes and Noble, how about a removable battery in the next series of 7" tablets*
So if we ignore the 500ma max for USB, and change it to whatever we like, we can cram all the current we like and still say it's USB? Ugh.
Thanks for the numbers
I'm gonna guess that the reason my battery pack only shows charging for 20ish minutes is cuz as it charges the Streak 7, it discharges, and after that time the voltage has dropped enough to not register as a charge, but since the electrons are still there, the tablet will consume them. In a car, the 5vdc from the charger is maintained by the cars charging system, so it never drops below.
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That'd be my guess too.
Tom2112 said:
It's not the voltage that is causing the slow charge, it's the amperage.
The Streak is similar to the iPhones and iPads in that it draws more than the ordinary PC or Hub USB port will supply. Normal PC USB ports are limited to 500mAh. Some hubs are known to supply 1,000mAh, but they're rare.
The iPad charger supplies 2,100mAh. The Streak 7 charger supplies 2,000mAh.
That's why the charger will charge up the Streak 7 much quicker than a PC or hub - roughly four times as fast.
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It's the amperage for sure. The device will draw as much as it needs up to the max amount of amps the charger is rated for.
For example: If the device pulls up to say 750mAh when charging and you only supply 500mAh then charging will be slower. If the device will only pull 750mAh then throwing 2Amps won't do any better than a charger that will supply 750mAh.
How much draw the device will actually pull I do not know. Since the supplied charger is rated up to 2Amps then odds are the device will pull just under that.
You can get a high Amp car charger/usb adapter at RatShack: Model: 2730-501 | Catalog #: 270-057. I like at least 2Amps for my devices. This one is 2.5.
I mounted a home dock in my car and power it off of this adapter/charger. It works like a champ.
DO NOT throw more voltage at the unit then what is listed on the wall charger.
More Amps=Good
More Voltage=Smoking Tablet
this is the one im planing to get it has 5.35 v
amazoncom/gp/product/B004362208/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A3E5K6GEFSI075
just add a dot after amazon
I got this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M9Z5F6
I wanted to use it with my Eneloop batteries, but two units down and no dice. It'll charge for a couple of seconds and then die. I may simply opt for a refund.

A/C adapter

I know the Streak 7 requires about 5.4 volts and something well over the normal 500mA to chage so not just any A/C to USB charger will work. Anyone know offhand of a good source for an adapter that will charge the 7 and preferably has a folding plug or the like so it's streamlined and also something that's rugged. I don't want a cheap $1.99 cent no name piece of plastic.
Thanks
Any 5v 2 AMP charger will work.
I too am looking for an a/c charger and would love an affordable recommendation. Ive looked everywhere and I find chargers that are like $24 (way too much) or like a dollar (don't trust it at that price). Thanks alot.
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I have one HTC 5V 1A adapter from my old Hero that works (folding plugs), also LG 5V 700ma works as well (from Optimus One). I am sure these are slower at charging but they do work. Would be good for overnight charging.
Any ideas on a good, AA powered USB charger? I know AAs will get eaten pretty quick, but I have some Eneloops sitting around doing nothing and I'd love to get a little more juice on the go.
Juice on the go. Now I have a picture of a white Bronco slowly fleeing the cops down the freeway stuck in my head.
Thanks. I guess as long as they work it doesn't really matter how long they take to charge. Hopefully with all the tablets coming out, a/c to USB 2 amp chargers will become more accessable at lower prices. Until then ill just use a 1 amp charger.
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Z4nd4r said:
Any ideas on a good, AA powered USB charger? I know AAs will get eaten pretty quick, but I have some Eneloops sitting around doing nothing and I'd love to get a little more juice on the go.
Juice on the go. Now I have a picture of a white Bronco slowly fleeing the cops down the freeway stuck in my head.
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This is the only thing i could find along those lines. But the website looks pretty sketch so Im not sure if i would trust it. just replace the " DOT " in the link with periods, I cant post links cause im a noob
http COLON //www DOT meritline DOT com/external-backup-usb-charger-for-iphone-and-ipod-black---p-55167 DOT aspx
farfromuman said:
I have one HTC 5V 1A adapter from my old Hero that works (folding plugs), also LG 5V 700ma works as well (from Optimus One). I am sure these are slower at charging but they do work. Would be good for overnight charging.
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Thanks, I went on amazon and ordered a charger for a Palm, it looks really nice and it was less than 4 bucks, Ill post again when I get it with a link if it works.
asjimene said:
This is the only thing i could find along those lines. But the website looks pretty sketch so Im not sure if i would trust it. just replace the " DOT " in the link with periods, I cant post links cause im a noob
http COLON //www DOT meritline DOT com/external-backup-usb-charger-for-iphone-and-ipod-black---p-55167 DOT aspx
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I got that one, but it only worked for about 20 seconds and then never worked again. I got a replacement, same deal. It seems very cheaply made and heats up very quickly. I made sure my Eneloops had a full charge, too.
I use the newest iphone 4 (white phone) usb plug. The printed spec says 1 amp, but it works fine, I am assuming it is the same unit as the ipad, but a different sticker. iphone 3 plug did not work.
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Yeah, i thought it looked shady. But hopefully the cheap 1 amp charger i bought will work. There were some promising rechargeable external batteries on amazon, they run like 60 bucks but they put out an amp and look like they are high quality.
The charger that I bought works great! I'm sure its a little slower charge than the original charger but it is much easier to travel with. Link below replace "DOT" with ". "
http COLON //www DOT amazon DOT com/gp/product/B002GQ9K5C
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asjimene said:
The charger that I bought works great! I'm sure its a little slower charge than the original charger but it is much easier to travel with. Link below replace "DOT" with ". "
http COLON //www DOT amazon DOT com/gp/product/B002GQ9K5C
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I got this 1 for the car. Works great. 5v 2000mA
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Streak-7-Dual-2-Ports-USB-Car-Charger-/310336145522
naw not same as ipad charger that charger is kinda big about 2X2X1 with foldable plugs and also removable plugs to attatch an extension
fyi....1amp is definitely fine. Their car kit includes a 1amp 12v usb charger. Kinda peeved. I was expecting a 2amp one similar to the ac one that comes with the streak. Thankfully I only paid $7 for the car kit which is pretty much what I'd pay for another dock cable.
dbpaddler said:
fyi....1amp is definitely fine. Their car kit includes a 1amp 12v usb charger. Kinda peeved. I was expecting a 2amp one similar to the ac one that comes with the streak. Thankfully I only paid $7 for the car kit which is pretty much what I'd pay for another dock cable.
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Is 1Amp enough to charge with the screen on the brightest setting while using gps and wifi ?
Also, I ordered 3 cables from china for $9 total. Ill let you know if they work properly and if so ill link them. Im planning on a cable mod for usb-otg on one of them. Will report back. Also, anyone have a complete pinout on the dock connector? Trying to find out if the only charging pins are the ones used for usb connection. We are going to need to be able to charge while supplying power via usb to devices. Thanks!
I haven't re-downloaded copilot yet since upgrading to DJSteve's 3.2. So I haven't tested everything out yet. Have my hotspot though so I theoretically can. With more 2amp chargers out there, it should be a moot point though. I just picked up a dual one that has both a 1amp and 2amp. With the loaner car at the moment, I'm kinda just dealing with the usb port for charging. Kinda cool it even has usb.
I will say, the viewpad 7x is catching my eye though. And with HC on the Dell, resell should be easy. Just saying.
pyraxiate said:
Is 1Amp enough to charge with the screen on the brightest setting while using gps and wifi ?
Also, I ordered 3 cables from china for $9 total. Ill let you know if they work properly and if so ill link them. Im planning on a cable mod for usb-otg on one of them. Will report back. Also, anyone have a complete pinout on the dock connector? Trying to find out if the only charging pins are the ones used for usb connection. We are going to need to be able to charge while supplying power via usb to devices. Thanks!
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Yes 1 amp will charge the device at full brightness with GPS, Wifi, and Bluetooth.
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Yes 1 amp will charge the device at full brightness with GPS, Wifi, and Bluetooth.
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Awesome ty. I was using a 2Amp charger but lost it.
Edit.
I picked up an OEM HTC USB wall charger 5v 1Amp.... it does Not charge it with screen on, wifi on, and gps
I assumed it was pad, but I guess it is just an iphone charger. Its a small cube with usb slot. Charges unit with no problems.
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The Definitive Answer on Charging a HP Touchpad

Hello,
First time poster long time reader.
I have read 20 billion forums where people continually say that "everything charges a touchpad" and "nothing charges a touchpad but original charger"
we are 5 years after launch and crash. Judging by forum activity people still have and use their touchpads.
what charges a HP touchpad? Do you need a special cable? Do you need a special charger? can some one after all this time give the definitive answer?
I have read through many posts on this forum and multiple others and it seems this question has not be clearly answered.
im looking for a "only a hp charger" or "500v and 90a will do it" or "connect nipples to car battery and furiously tongue the charging port".
to understand why I am asking this question. I dont have my original charger and i dont want to pay $40 for an american charger ( I dont live in America) I use a 5v 2.1a phone charger and it gives me the "to reliably charge" screen.
YesApples said:
Hello,
First time poster long time reader.
I have read 20 billion forums where people continually say that "everything charges a touchpad" and "nothing charges a touchpad but original charger"
we are 5 years after launch and crash. Judging by forum activity people still have and use their touchpads.
what charges a HP touchpad? Do you need a special cable? Do you need a special charger? can some one after all this time give the definitive answer?
I have read through many posts on this forum and multiple others and it seems this question has not be clearly answered.
im looking for a "only a hp charger" or "500v and 90a will do it" or "connect nipples to car battery and furiously tongue the charging port".
to understand why I am asking this question. I dont have my original charger and i dont want to pay $40 for an american charger ( I dont live in America) I use a 5v 2.1a phone charger and it gives me the "to reliably charge" screen.
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Some are more picky than others, but I charge mine with any 5v, 2a charger. Time to fully charge varies, and if you use it while charging, it will not store much in the battery. Put it to sleep and let it charge until full.
So its more picky,
I am currently using a Belkin wallcharger that outputs 12w 2.4A. I have left my tablet plugged in and off for the last 24 hours and it wont turn on other then to tell me that to reliably charge I need the original charger. I have KK 4.4.4. Is this a typical charge time for these in other users experiances? how do we get it to charge with out an original cable or wallcharger?
I too would like to get to the bottom of this. I use the original charger and cable and from a dead battery takes a goot 15hrs before it boots up. The only indication its charging is the home button LED that flashed back and forth. I've tried 3rd party chargers and none work. I've tried 3rd party cables and none work.
theraque said:
I too would like to get to the bottom of this. I use the original charger and cable and from a dead battery takes a goot 15hrs before it boots up. The only indication its charging is the home button LED that flashed back and forth. I've tried 3rd party chargers and none work. I've tried 3rd party cables and none work.
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It is a well-known fact that allowing the battery to fully discharge is problematic at best, disastrous at worst. None of the chargers are reliable when this occurs. The simple answer is don't let the battery go below about 10% before recharging, or you may not recover your tablet without having to debrick it.
This has been my experience:
Any old charger and cable will charge a Touchpad so long as the battery isn't completely dead. If the battery is completely dead, then there is a way to get enough power to turn it on without needing the original charger or cable. You simply plug it into the USB port of any computer and let it sit. Let it sit for a long time. I let mine sit for a day before trying to power it back on.
YMMV, but I've had success with that method.
YesApples said:
Hello,
First time poster long time reader.
I have read 20 billion forums where people continually say that "everything charges a touchpad" and "nothing charges a touchpad but original charger"
we are 5 years after launch and crash. Judging by forum activity people still have and use their touchpads.
what charges a HP touchpad? Do you need a special cable? Do you need a special charger? can some one after all this time give the definitive answer?
I have read through many posts on this forum and multiple others and it seems this question has not be clearly answered.
im looking for a "only a hp charger" or "500v and 90a will do it" or "connect nipples to car battery and furiously tongue the charging port".
to understand why I am asking this question. I dont have my original charger and i dont want to pay $40 for an american charger ( I dont live in America) I use a 5v 2.1a phone charger and it gives me the "to reliably charge" screen.
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You are right about the many discussions about what chargers work with the TouchPad and which ones don't. I have sat in on many of them as well as done some testing of my own. The rule of thumb is it is best to use the official HP TouchPad charger. HP for some reason made the charging circuits proprietary on the TouchPad so that if you use a third party charger rated the same as the official one, it will charge but only at the lowest rate of 500mA. You can also charge the TP from a PC usb port, but again it is rated at 500mA. The catch is the TP uses more than 500mA when awake, so to use one of these methods, the TP has to be put to sleep or be turned off and will charge very slowly. That being said, you may find a third party charger that will charge the TP at the higher rate, but they are rare. At one time I was aware of a user who was modifying USB cords so that you could use a third party charger. He used to have a thread on RootzWiki forum, but that that forum was pretty much destroyed by spammers and his thread was lost. He had instructions with pictures and parts lists. Also, keep in mind, any good USB cable will work with the original HP charger. It's the modification that he was making to the cable that tricked the TP into thinking it is connected to a real HP charger.
However, I did find this post from a fellow that knows the mod one needs to make to get a third party charger to work with a TP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22990010&postcount=16
NT
PS. Here is a link to the entire thread if you want to read the whole thing, 4 pages: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475537
nevertells2 said:
You are right about the many discussions about what chargers work with the TouchPad and which ones don't. I have sat in on many of them as well as done some testing of my own. The rule of thumb is it is best to use the official HP TouchPad charger. HP for some reason made the charging circuits proprietary on the TouchPad so that if you use a third party charger rated the same as the official one, it will charge but only at the lowest rate of 500mA. You can also charge the TP from a PC usb port, but again it is rated at 500mA. The catch is the TP uses more than 500mA when awake, so to use one of these methods, the TP has to be put to sleep or be turned off and will charge very slowly. That being said, you may find a third party charger that will charge the TP at the higher rate, but they are rare. At one time I was aware of a user who was modifying USB cords so that you could use a third party charger. He used to have a thread on RootzWiki forum, but that that forum was pretty much destroyed by spammers and his thread was lost. He had instructions with pictures and parts lists. Also, keep in mind, any good USB cable will work with the original HP charger. It's the modification that he was making to the cable that tricked the TP into thinking it is connected to a real HP charger.
However, I did find this post from a fellow that knows the mod one needs to make to get a third party charger to work with a TP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22990010&postcount=16
NT
PS. Here is a link to the entire thread if you want to read the whole thing, 4 pages: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475537
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I have confirmed all that you have said and now know this to be the definitive answer, since OP I have purchased 12 chargers advertising different automatic charge regulation features such as belkin "smart" chargers, none would charge over 500ma which of course as we now know is not sufficient to use the TP and takes days to charge, not what i would call functional.
I made a messy hack job charger.. im definitively not great at that and between an accident prone wife and 2 small children, my end result wasnt good enough to let charge alone next to the couch or something.
Finally, while i did all this I had a HP charger on order with an American wall plug ( i live in western Australia so different plug and long postage time) this charger works as expected and in my research was the only functional way to charge the TP
THANKS TEAM. we got there in the end.
YesApples said:
I have confirmed all that you have said and now know this to be the definitive answer, since OP I have purchased 12 chargers advertising different automatic charge regulation features such as belkin "smart" chargers, none would charge over 500ma which of course as we now know is not sufficient to use the TP and takes days to charge, not what i would call functional.
I made a messy hack job charger.. im definitively not great at that and between an accident prone wife and 2 small children, my end result wasnt good enough to let charge alone next to the couch or something.
Finally, while i did all this I had a HP charger on order with an American wall plug ( i live in western Australia so different plug and long postage time) this charger works as expected and in my research was the only functional way to charge the TP
THANKS TEAM. we got there in the end.
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12 chargers! Holy Cow!!!! :laugh: I do remember that the guy who was building these cables purchased a USB connector and used surface mount resistors what he could fit inside the metal shell of the connector.
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Definitive answer... maybe...? 5.3+ volts and 2.0+ amps...?
YesApples said:
can some one after all this time give the definitive answer?
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In seeking the same answer as you I seem to have stumbled upon a couple options that explain the answer...
Here I wanted to post a "Screenshot of HP forum answer regarding HP Tablet charger reqs" but the forum bots won't allow it...
So the screenshot the i wanted to include above will not post properly, i'll explain... the screenshot showed a h30434.www3.hp com/t5/Tablets-and-Mobile-Devices-Archive-Read-Only/Need-a-charger-for-my-HP-10-2101-Tablet/td-p/5962461" post on the HP support forum of someone asking basically the same question... specifically about the HP 10 2101 Tablet... forum user "Wyrenut" (has over 16,000 posts on the HP support forum) states confidently;
You can find one at pretty much any computer/electronics store, or online at amazon com​It just needs to be rated for a tablet - providing at least 2.0 amps of DC current and at least 5.3 volts, and a micro-USB port on the tablet end.​"
This seems to check out thus far in this quest for tablet power because I was able to find in my adapter bin a 5.1 volts DC @ 2.4 amp charger with a micro-USB end and after hours of being plugged in, and that has failed to charge an HP TouchPad 32GB I recently acquired without a charger. So I am currently seeking an adapter that will satisfy "Wyrenut's" stated requirements for an HP Tablet charger and once I get my hands on one, we will have the definitive answer and I will followup on this thread as well.
Useful infos to include in the definitive answer...?
www makeuseof com/tag/hp-touchpad-probably-not-bricked/" HP TouchPad Not Charging? Don’t Worry, It’s Probably Not Bricked!
HUGE thead...
forums.webosnation com/hp-touchpad/311591-hp-touchpad-won-t-turn-charge-5.html" HP TouchPad won't turn on or charge
Along discussion regarding TouchPad charging problems though I don't think it resolves anything.. it's lot of opine... a lot...
forums.webosnation com/hp-touchpad/311491-how-i-revived-my-dead-touchpad-6.html"How I revived my dead TouchPad
and another...
forums.webosnation com/hp-touchpad/296106-touchpad-won-t-charge.html" Touchpad won't charge?
I'll try to remember to follow up on this when I finally find a charger that is 5.3+ volts and 2.0+ amps to report my findings...
Good luck...
You Must Be of my Ilk!
I like posting to moldy old Touchpad Threads too!
Would love to see what you find out if they actually go to 2 AMPS although I have 8 actual TP chargers and 6 docks.....the chargers have been known to fail after a time.
Lip Lip Lip
[email protected] said:
You Must Be of my Ilk!
I like posting to moldy old Touchpad Threads too!
Would love to see what you find out if they actually go to 2 AMPS although I have 8 actual TP chargers and 6 docks.....the chargers have been known to fail after a time.
Lip Lip Lip
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Do you know where I could obtain a TouchPad original charger? What charger exactly am I looking for? (I have never seen a real TP charger IRL)
Maybe you have some tips for what keywords I should search for on eBay?
Sanras said:
Do you know where I could obtain a TouchPad original charger? What charger exactly am I looking for? (I have never seen a real TP charger IRL)
Maybe you have some tips for what keywords I should search for on eBay?
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https://www.amazon.com/North-Americ...prefix=hp+touchpad+usb+charger,aps,136&sr=8-3
Wireless charger:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154667142566?epid=1234774932&hash=item2402e14da6:g:yzsAAOSw64Jhb6y5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304026565204?epid=1234774932&hash=item46c9653a54:g:FiYAAOSwP4RgwFqE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194688668828?epid=1234774932&hash=item2d5459549c:g:cR0AAOSwv2phhf6x
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
https://www.amazon.com/North-American-Power-Charger-TouchPad/dp/B0055QYJJM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=48DGI4WUGP7Z&keywords=hp+touchpad+usb+charger&qid=1641357732&sprefix=hp+touchpad+usb+charger,aps,136&sr=8-3
Wireless charger:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154667142566?epid=1234774932&hash=item2402e14da6:g:yzsAAOSw64Jhb6y5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304026565204?epid=1234774932&hash=item46c9653a54:g:FiYAAOSwP4RgwFqE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194688668828?epid=1234774932&hash=item2d5459549c:g:cR0AAOSwv2phhf6x
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Yeah, I found the Touchstone charger as well. I think that's probably the best choice, because not only is it pretty cheap and gets me a stand, but it also comes with the original barrel charger required for the proprietary HP charging circuit to use the full 2 Amps. (So I assume I could then use that barrel charger with a micro usb cable as a wired charger if I didn't want to use the wireless stand)
Still, I'm impressed a 2011 device has wireless charging. If I do buy that Touchstone, I'll probably just use the wireless charging for convenience.
Anyway, I first need to get this thing to boot. I have the (seemingly) common dead battery issue. I received this tablet from a friend for free, he said it was barely ever used and then put away in storage. The tablet is in like-new condition, so I believe him on that.
I've plugged it into a 5V 2A (10W) USB charger from a Moto G Pure, and it's currently alternating between two lights on the home button. (And has been doing so for the last 8 hours or so). I'll leave it overnight as well.
At that point, I assume I should start trying power vol and home button combos to try to turn it on? Do you have any suggestions on what I should do to get this tablet to boot?
Once I can get it to turn on, I'll probably look into getting the original charger (that Touchstone). Until it works though, I don't really want to invest $12 to $16 into this thing and then be left with a useless wireless charging stand.
I assume using a non original charger for now shouldn't be much of a problem apart from the charging being slow. It'll still charge, after all, even if at 500mA.
Sanras said:
Yeah, I found the Touchstone charger as well. I think that's probably the best choice, because not only is it pretty cheap and gets me a stand, but it also comes with the original barrel charger required for the proprietary HP charging circuit to use the full 2 Amps. (So I assume I could then use that barrel charger with a micro usb cable as a wired charger if I didn't want to use the wireless stand)
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Yes the barrel charger from the wireless charger (Touchstone) can be use with any other USB cable and be use that way.
Sanras said:
Still, I'm impressed a 2011 device has wireless charging. If I do buy that Touchstone, I'll probably just use the wireless charging for convenience.
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The HP Touchpad in 2011 had features not even available in devices at this moment in 2022.
Sanras said:
Anyway, I first need to get this thing to boot. I have the (seemingly) common dead battery issue. I received this tablet from a friend for free, he said it was barely ever used and then put away in storage. The tablet is in like-new condition, so I believe him on that.
I've plugged it into a 5V 2A (10W) USB charger from a Moto G Pure, and it's currently alternating between two lights on the home button. (And has been doing so for the last 8 hours or so). I'll leave it overnight as well.
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Any charger providing exactly an output of 5.3 volts 2.0 amps will work, it does not need to be the original HP charger but with the same specs.
Sanras said:
At that point, I assume I should start trying power vol and home button combos to try to turn it on? Do you have any suggestions on what I should do to get this tablet to boot?
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There is no special trick, just charge it in a warm room temperature above 80F with the right charger. Lithium batteries does not charge well in cold.
Sanras said:
Once I can get it to turn on, I'll probably look into getting the original charger (that Touchstone). Until it works though, I don't really want to invest $12 to $16 into this thing and then be left with a useless wireless charging stand.
I assume using a non original charger for now shouldn't be much of a problem apart from the charging being slow. It'll still charge, after all, even if at 500mA.
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After it boots and is 100% charge the Tablet can be charge with any charger, but always keep it plug in ( charging ), never let it discharge.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Yes the barrel charger from the wireless charger (Touchstone) can be use with any other USB cable and be use that way.
The HP Touchpad in 2011 had features not even available in devices at this moment in 2022.
Any charger providing exactly an output of 5.3 volts 2.0 amps will work, it does not need to be the original HP charger but with the same specs.
There is no special trick, just charge it in a warm room temperature above 80F with the right charger. Lithium batteries does not charge well in cold.
After it boots and is 100% charge the Tablet can be charge with any charger, but always keep it plug in ( charging ), never let it discharge.
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Ok, well, I don't have anything at 5.3 exactly, only 5.0V. I guess I'll go and buy a touchstone charger so I get the stand and barrel charger, so that it has the correct output. I really didn't think 0.3V would make much of a difference though.
Anyway, once I plug it into the original charger, how do I know when it is ready to turn on? Will it just turn on by itself, show a charging icon, or something else?
Sanras said:
Ok, well, I don't have anything at 5.3 exactly, only 5.0V. I guess I'll go and buy a touchstone charger so I get the stand and barrel charger, so that it has the correct output. I really didn't think 0.3V would make much of a difference though.
Anyway, once I plug it into the original charger, how do I know when it is ready to turn on? Will it just turn on by itself, show a charging icon, or something else?
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It could probably work, give it a try.
1. LED light blink from side to side. ( The tablet's battery is depleted, but taking charge ( awake ). Leave it until it boots, it could take a week.
2. Second stage ( a battery sign with a red line under it ) will show on the screen.
3. It will boot.
Look at this guide for the info.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android.3960435/
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
It could probably work, give it a try.
1. LED light blink from side to side. ( The tablet's battery is depleted, but taking charge ( awake ). Leave it until it boots, it could take a week.
2. Second stage ( a battery sign with a red line under it ) will show on the screen.
3. It will boot.
Look at this guide for the info.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android.3960435/
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Alright. Mine is blinking left/right, so I'll leave it until I see anything on the screen. (I shouldn't need to touch any buttons, right?)
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
It could probably work, give it a try.
1. LED light blink from side to side. ( The tablet's battery is depleted, but taking charge ( awake ). Leave it until it boots, it could take a week.
2. Second stage ( a battery sign with a red line under it ) will show on the screen.
3. It will boot.
Look at this guide for the info.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android.3960435/
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Welp, I just bought a TouchStone. The eBay seller was surprisingly fast at replying to my offer, so now I have an in-box TouchStone charger arriving in a week for $13 and free shipping . Not bad.
Sanras said:
Welp, I just bought a TouchStone. The eBay seller was surprisingly fast at replying to my offer, so now I have an in-box TouchStone charger arriving in a week for $13 and free shipping . Not bad.
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Great !
The TouchStone for some reason charge faster and better that USB.
Always keep the Tablet charging, never let the battery drain.
Have FUN!

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