Do not Restore Apps with Titanium Backup - Epic 4G Themes

This will give you horrible battery life. I already tried it. Restored all my Apps, and I just got the worst battery life. Wrote down all my apps, Hard Reset, and Installed them. I'm good to go now. It's just an advice. Remember that the restoration of the apps will come with remains of the older phone the apps were.

I can see that happening, but I'd think that it would have to be certain specific apps. Were you able to troubleshoot or weed out specific apps causing a problem? Did you only restore apps or also system data?

lordcyrus said:
I can see that happening, but I'd think that it would have to be certain specific apps. Were you able to troubleshoot or weed out specific apps causing a problem? Did you only restore apps or also system data?
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Only Apps. I think Juice Defender and most of the ones that required personalized settings were the ones that were causing the problems.

I need to get my Slingplayer loaded up and Titanium Backup has all the info.
Anybody know how to extract the info out of it for the login info for Slingplayer.

Fixter said:
This will give you horrible battery life. I already tried it. Restored all my Apps, and I just got the worst battery life. Wrote down all my apps, Hard Reset, and Installed them. I'm good to go now. It's just an advice. Remember that the restoration of the apps will come with remains of the older phone the apps were.
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I'm having trouble seeing how Titanium Backup could be behind an issue like that.
Is this all circumstantial?

tokyomonster said:
I'm having trouble seeing how Titanium Backup could be behind an issue like that.
Is this all circumstantial?
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No. As I said before. I used the phone 1 whole day with no apps, just pure stock, and then the next day I used Titanium Backup and restored all my apps, and my phones battery went to hell.

Fixter said:
No. As I said before. I used the phone 1 whole day with no apps, just pure stock, and then the next day I used Titanium Backup and restored all my apps, and my phones battery went to hell.
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I think the question is whether there is solid proof that restoring any app at all will cause you to suffer battery problems or if it was something specific you recovered.

I'm still skeptical, but what the hell, I bit.
I did a factory reset, and am going to use App Brain to re-install the apps, then restore the data over top of them from my Titanium Backups, because I'm lazy.

Nevermind, I see this was already asked.
Did you restore with data or just the apps? Because I could see how restoring with data could introduce problems.
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This seems somewhat unlikely. Anyone report back with a wiped phone and clean-installs yet?

Ya to the op try app and not app+data. I bet that solves your problem. Wipe battery stats and record them for proof.
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bradatz said:
Ya to the op try app and not app+data. I bet that solves your problem. Wipe battery stats and record them for proof.
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There's no such option according to my Titanium Backup

Fixter said:
No. As I said before. I used the phone 1 whole day with no apps, just pure stock, and then the next day I used Titanium Backup and restored all my apps, and my phones battery went to hell.
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This is not proof. Correlation is not causation! I used my epic for the first day and it had a great battery life. Today I have horrible battery life and my time without signal is about 50%. I have not restored anything with titanium backup. I think you may be jumping the gun on the cause of your battery issues.

tokyomonster said:
I'm still skeptical, but what the hell, I bit.
I did a factory reset, and am going to use App Brain to re-install the apps, then restore the data over top of them from my Titanium Backups, because I'm lazy.
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How do you do a factory reset?

richse said:
How do you do a factory reset?
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Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Reset

Fixter said:
No. As I said before. I used the phone 1 whole day with no apps, just pure stock, and then the next day I used Titanium Backup and restored all my apps, and my phones battery went to hell.
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it may cause a problem like that if you restored the apps from a previous different device

So, I'm seeing better battery life today, but I don't think it's related to my wipe, because I still restored all apps + data from my Nexus using Titanium Backup.
I made sure not to restore flash though, and set the facebook app not to auto refresh, and didn't install the twitter app at all, since I dig the tweetdeck beta. I set the built in samsung facebook and twitter syncs to 6 hours this time vs 3 hours before...
And really, that's the only things that I can think of that are different. From about 7:30AM to 11:30, I had about 80% battery life (according to the bar). This includes some web browsing, and playing the angry birds demo for a bit. Charged the phone for an hour via my car charger during lunch, and when I left at 4:30, it was still at about 80%-ish, which is a huge improvement over yesterday.

Too late its Bricked

Never had a problem here. I always use Titanium to restore my apps. I've done one-by-one, and full batch restore.
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Almost 100% Awake Time

Since I upgraded to DamageControl 2.09, I have been experiencing almost 100% awake time, and my "Sync" icon is constantly being displayed.
I didn't have this issue with 2.08, so I'm wondering what I can do to clear it up. Is anyone else having a similar issue?
Thanks in advance!
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Since I upgraded to DamageControl 2.09, I have been experiencing almost 100% awake time, and my "Sync" icon is constantly being displayed.
I didn't have this issue with 2.08, so I'm wondering what I can do to clear it up. Is anyone else having a similar issue?
Thanks in advance!
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Is it unplugged from the wall/charger/computer? Have you stopped playing with it long enough to let it go to sleep?
subcypher said:
Is it unplugged from the wall/charger/computer? Have you stopped playing with it long enough to let it go to sleep?
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Yep. I leave it sitting on the table most of the time... Seems like it's constantly trying to sync something, but I can't figure out what/why.
go into settings/applications/running processes. I bet obex service is running thanks to calendar and come.htc.bgp. If that's the case, killing that process is the only fix I've found. It's a bug in the Sprint 2.1 ROM upon which DC is based.
gunnyman said:
go into settings/applications/running processes. I bet obex service is running thanks to calendar and come.htc.bgp. If that's the case, killing that process is the only fix I've found. It's a bug in the Sprint 2.1 ROM upon which DC is based.
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Odd, I'm running the same ROM and not getting this bug. Try wiping and reflashing. Don't install apps from backups. Install apps from scratch and only pick the ones you need first. I ran the ROM without any of the apps I like first and I've NEVER had this issue. Then I started adding apps directly from the market without using Titanium or any of the other backups. Worth a shot... for science, right?
subcypher said:
Odd, I'm running the same ROM and not getting this bug. Try wiping and reflashing. Don't install apps from backups. Install apps from scratch and only pick the ones you need first. I ran the ROM without any of the apps I like first and I've NEVER had this issue. Then I started adding apps directly from the market without using Titanium or any of the other backups. Worth a shot... for science, right?
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Yeah, I decided to re-flash it last night, and it seems to be working fine now. uptime is about 15 hours, with awake at around 1.5 hours now. Much, much better.
subcypher said:
Odd, I'm running the same ROM and not getting this bug. Try wiping and reflashing. Don't install apps from backups. Install apps from scratch and only pick the ones you need first. I ran the ROM without any of the apps I like first and I've NEVER had this issue. Then I started adding apps directly from the market without using Titanium or any of the other backups. Worth a shot... for science, right?
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Wow! Subcypher is right! I haven't used titanium backup since loading infinitex's deodexed sprint ROM and I have no problems with 100% awake time.

Battery life analysis: myths and reality

After going through lots of pain with my Vibrant (Galaxy S) to try to maximize battery life and hearing discussions on here about removing this or that to extend the NC’s battery, I thought I’d apply the same analysis techniques I learned from the Vibrant to the NC.
Thanks to many smart people (BruceElliot) in the Vibrant forum, I was turned onto an app called System Panel, which gives historical monitoring of battery usage and the apps that consume them. Here is my analysis.
First, I reimaged my NC and returned it to factory state just to be sure none of my user settings would muck this test up. Then I updated to 1.0.1 and used AutoNooter to root. Next, using the paid version of System Panel, I set up monitoring and left my NC on over night (no use). I looked at it this morning. The first picture (SummaryBarGraph) shows the historical battery usage for the past 8 hours (ignore the spikes at the end, I was actually reading a book). As you can see, there are some micro spikes while the device is “sleeping”.
Next, I looked at the top apps that have been consuming power. The second picture (TopApps) shows the apps the percentage of power they consumed over the past 8 hours. As you can see, it is very little. If I click on “System Processes”, you can see more processes running underneath it. The third picture (SystemProcessDetails) shows that there are just a handful of apps. The top one is “Suspend”, as it should be as this is when the devices is sleeping.
My conclusion:
If phone or mms or other telephony services was one of the processes listed, I could see how removing the apk would have an effect on battery life. The fact that they are not listed proves those apps have no bearing on battery life. While removing them probably does not hurt, the "increases" people see are fictional.
If you feel the need to remove those apks, I would suggest getting TitaniumBackup and just "Freezing" them. You can unfreeze at anytime with out adverse effect and not worry about screwing anything up.
Yep, System Panel works great, I've owned it for months and have it running in Monitor mode 24/7 on my Nexus One and the NC.
I seem to always have 1-2% CPU going when idle on my NC, but I have several widgets which are probably doing something nearly all of the time at any given moment...
Regardless, I see about .2%/hr battery usage in suspend and a nearly constant 8%/hr while the NC is in use regardless of wifi, and with the screen at maybe 5-10% brightness, not sure what the exact level is.
Thanks for taking the time to verify that the phone related apk's really seem to be a bit of a false positive when it comes to actual battery usage. It could be that with a heavily configured device partial wake consumes more battery than a device which doesn't have stuff running, widgets, etc... That'd be a bit hard to determine I'd think, however.
Regarldless I renamed the phone apps a week or so ago, but I am inclined to think there's really no difference on the battery life in the end.
Thank You. I too saw no improvement in battery life by removing the phone and telephony apks. Not having the phone apk caused reboots when i put the NC to sleep. Reinstalled the phone.apk and reboots stopped. At least in firmware 1.0. I have not gone back 1.1 yet.
Great Post, there were many questions of whether this saved battery life or not. Thanks.
gedster314 said:
Thank You. I too saw no improvement in battery life by removing the phone and telephony apks. Not having the phone apk caused reboots when i put the NC to sleep. Reinstalled the phone.apk and reboots stopped. At least in firmware 1.0. I have not gone back 1.1 yet.
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Nonsense, the phone apk's have nothing to do with the reboots from all of the observations on the long thread about this.
Why would you mess with 1.0.0 FW? It'll automatically update you 1.0.1 and hose your install....
Thanks for the info, makes sense these app wouln't have any impact in the absence of the related hardware.
webvan said:
Thanks for the info, makes sense these app wouln't have any impact in the absence of the related hardware.
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Reading the other threads is what got me thinking about it. Its not the phone process that kills the battery, its the radio. And if the Nook doesn't have a radio that is activated, than how can it be using power?
khaytsus said:
Nonsense, the phone apk's have nothing to do with the reboots from all of the observations on the long thread about this.
Why would you mess with 1.0.0 FW? It'll automatically update you 1.0.1 and hose your install....
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It's not the absence of the phone.apk but the way it is removed. If there were any system dependencies on that file and it all of the sudden went missing, I could see why he'd get some FC.
It's like deleting a exe from Program Files instead of using the uninstaller on a PC.
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Why would you mess with 1.0.0 FW? It'll automatically update you 1.0.1 and hose your install....
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Two reasons I'm still on 1.0:
1. I changed otacerts name and, after several weeks, there have been no automatic updates, crazy system restores, or Bigfoot sightings.
2. Dolphin HD successfully changes your user agent (all except Android) on 1.0. People on 1.0.1 have reported that none work.
When you say freezing apps do you mean using adb to disable the package?
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When you say freezing apps do you mean using adb to disable the package?
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No, TitaniumBackup has an option to freeze. It's different than using adb.
wvcachi said:
Two reasons I'm still on 1.0:
1. I changed otacerts name and, after several weeks, there have been no automatic updates, crazy system restores, or Bigfoot sightings.
2. Dolphin HD successfully changes your user agent (all except Android) on 1.0. People on 1.0.1 have reported that none work.
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Ditto. I'm on 1.0.0 with otacerts renamed...no auto updates, crazy re-initializations/reboots, etc. I'm leaving it alone for now.
Thanks for studying this. It sounded a little too good to be true.
gedster314 said:
Thank You. I too saw no improvement in battery life by removing the phone and telephony apks. Not having the phone apk caused reboots when i put the NC to sleep. Reinstalled the phone.apk and reboots stopped. At least in firmware 1.0. I have not gone back 1.1 yet.
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Did you have softkeys installed? Mine was rebooting too when going to sleep with wifi on and it stopped doing that after I removed the softkeys app thanks to a comment I saw in another thread. Replaced with Button Savior and no reboots with the said apks disabled (I didn't remove them, just renamed).
wvcachi said:
Two reasons I'm still on 1.0:
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2. Dolphin HD successfully changes your user agent (all except Android) on 1.0. People on 1.0.1 have reported that none work.
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Am on 1.01 and the user agent works for me ....
I removed the softkeys app thanks to a comment I saw in another thread. Replaced with Button Savior and no reboots
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I did the same thing based on the post in that other thread and I'm up to 20 hours without a reboot so far. Keeping my NC on my desk at work today to listen for reboots
What about trying this with those two files renamed and see if that changes the battery usage?
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What about trying this with those two files renamed and see if that changes the battery usage?
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I thought about doing that but the issue is that there is no phone process running for me to monitor. Doing the same process on my Vibrant shows the the phone process is indeed running and using power. Here, nothing.
I might do a comparative test to measure battery life drain per hour while idle, but I don't think its necessary at this point.
But is the System Pannel deserve your trust?

[Q] Help regarding battery usage..

Hey guys, I'm sure all or most of you know that the 5.6.890 OTA update fixed the cell standby, and phone idle usage. The problem that I'm having is that I have been flashing multiple different ROM's to Droid 3, and now my cell standby and phone idle usage is 3 times higher than my display (that I leave on and at 100% brightness for testing purposes). If I look at my settings, the system version is still the 5.6.890, and I have also ran the *228 option 1 and 2 to see if that was my problem. No dice, after 2 days of trying things the usage is still back to pre-OTA update levels. Help?
Is the network set to global? If so it should be set to CDMA
Yes my phone is set to CMDA network. :/ I have no idea what's wrong.
I say flash a nice ROM like Monster, Steel or Dark Droid
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Do you guys know if you can back up just your application, and user data? Im already running Steel Droid 3.0, but maybe I need a fresh start. I just don't want to lose all of my data (google backup only restores apps, not their data.)
ChaoticWeaponry said:
Do you guys know if you can back up just your application, and user data? Im already running Steel Droid 3.0, but maybe I need a fresh start. I just don't want to lose all of my data (google backup only restores apps, not their data.)
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I'm not too familiar with it, but would TitaniumBackup work for what you want? I know on my Droid Incredible 2 that I'm about to return, you can save applications and their data. For example, I had an extensive custom dictionary thats unexportable for swype. I used TiBackup and it restored swype to the status it was when I backed it up.
digitalsynner85 said:
I'm not too familiar with it, but would TitaniumBackup work for what you want? I know on my Droid Incredible 2 that I'm about to return, you can save applications and their data. For example, I had an extensive custom dictionary thats unexportable for swype. I used TiBackup and it restored swype to the status it was when I backed it up.
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I have TB on my droid, im guessing it just reinstalls everything to your droid? Thanks for the advice anyways. I mainly use TB for freezing bloat.
You can choose individual apps to redo. If you scroll down it has the list of apps you backed up and you can choose to restore it. I had backed up several things and I chose to only restore swype. But it was just a suggestion I hope you get something figured out lol.
ChaoticWeaponry said:
Hey guys, I'm sure all or most of you know that the 5.6.890 OTA update fixed the cell standby, and phone idle usage. The problem that I'm having is that I have been flashing multiple different ROM's to Droid 3, and now my cell standby and phone idle usage is 3 times higher than my display (that I leave on and at 100% brightness for testing purposes). If I look at my settings, the system version is still the 5.6.890, and I have also ran the *228 option 1 and 2 to see if that was my problem. No dice, after 2 days of trying things the usage is still back to pre-OTA update levels. Help?
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Same! I have been from steeldroid 1 to 2 to 3, and 3 now has incredibly high cell standby. Anyone else? Is this a SDv3 thing?
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digitalsynner85 said:
You can choose individual apps to redo. If you scroll down it has the list of apps you backed up and you can choose to restore it. I had backed up several things and I chose to only restore swype. But it was just a suggestion I hope you get something figured out lol.
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Yeah I actually did.. lol I just reinstalled Steel Droid 3.0.. didn't lose anything, and data and idle are back to 2% with display at 18%. Thanks for your help.
Camspanners said:
Same! I have been from steeldroid 1 to 2 to 3, and 3 now has incredibly high cell standby. Anyone else? Is this a SDv3 thing?
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Reinstall droid 3.0, use my instructions. Go on your bootstrap, delete cache and delvik cache, install SD3, delete your delvik cache again, reboot. Fixed what my prob was. No data lost.
Make sure you delete your battery log as well. Try to do it when your batterys charged. Battery calibration is a good app to do that.
ChaoticWeaponry said:
Reinstall droid 3.0, use my instructions. Go on your bootstrap, delete cache and delvik cache, install SD3, delete your delvik cache again, reboot. Fixed what my prob was. No data lost.
Make sure you delete your battery log as well. Try to do it when your batterys charged. Battery calibration is a good app to do that.
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Trying it now!

Note 4 T-Mobile 32GB Random Rebooting/Slow

Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?
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Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?
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First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.
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First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.
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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?
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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?
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I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.
Bruce lee roy said:
I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.
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Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.
Kr1sS129 said:
Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.
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No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues. Only suggestions, you can take or leave whatever you'd like but you might get better results if you try harder to be a nice person.
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No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues.
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True! I stand corrected sir. I appreciate your assistance.
Hey guys, so today I tried a different battery cause my was bad and overheating and I can tell this one is good because it also is charging faster than before.
Now I did delete those apps clean master and battery saver like I said I would but I'm still getting random rebooting and slowness, one example would be I was typing a text and the phone took awhile to catch up to my typing and suddenly it restarted itself.
I'm not rooted and my rom is stock. Noticed today that my water indicator underneath the battery has triggered.
So I'm still looking for options...let me know, thanks.

Question What's is the best firmware for battery ?

Hi i have a question my battery is very bad 3 4 hours normal usage and I must go to charger my oxygen firmware is C.30 its my last oneplus phone :/
So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..
I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?
Bartx96 said:
I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?
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If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..
Thanks
dladz said:
If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..
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I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp
Bartx96 said:
I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp
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You really don't need twrp... You could go a full back up with twrp but it's not needed. Just factory wipe.. back up first
dladz said:
So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..
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Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.
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Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.
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If you're not rooted then no I don't think you can back up your apps in their current state like you would with let's say swift or titanium, but you can restore them using Google.
I think you need to take a look at your situation, it's always a faff when you full wipe.
Personally I would always root. I use two banks which are just fine with root.. I need root for my mods and for a few other apps I use that require it, it's not a battery issue, In fact quite the opposite as I can tweak my device using a kernel manager whilst a non root user won't be able to, not to mention adaway and swift backup.
I do a few things to make sure everything works..
1. Allow Google/chrome to remember my passwords for all sites, if I wasn't going to do this then I'd make an offline list of them and then go from there or even use 1password, that way you only have to remember 1 whilst it'll last every single site for you.
2. As im rooted I use the mod I posted to allow free back up to Google photos so I don't have to worry about media.
Same goes with my contacts.
3. Finally copy out critical files that I'd otherwise miss, I do this locally via PC, like the swift back up folder after the main back up, then others like emulators and their folders as they contain settings to my custom setup, my nova custom desktop back up, my downloads folder or categorise the contents into their own folders, anything else I can think of that I'll need (you get used to your routine, most of the time it's simply a case of adding the additional files that are different from your last back up, the more you do it the quicker it gets)
4. Get my boot images ready (patched and stock) a copy of the full firmwares I'm going to plus what I'm on and a note of both unless I can remember.
Done.
PS: reason I'm suggesting looking into it is you could be forced into it by something as simple as an error or device fault, so best to get your ducks in a row..
Overall I think I've seen better battery life from 12 if I'm being honest, but again it's down to the apps you use, what used to be quite light on android 12 may not be as friendly on 13 and vice versa, it's extremely difficult to get a bearing between devices as no two are the same, plus the apps each person has is so different.
If you really wanted to test then you'd need to remain as the device was then run tests on solitary apps and see what was lost over a period of time.
Also bare in mind that the device will begin to remember your habits over time too which helps write a lot with battery on both firmwares but it does take time to happen, a week I would give it.
Swift backup is the best backup app for rooted phones. You can back up everything completely along with its settings.

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