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Micro Sd Card Slot
Hi, I no some windows phone 7, phone have micro sd card slots but it was not confirmed that the HD7 has it. Do you know anything??
I believe it won't come with and SD Card slot.
You can't use your own SD cards with Windows Phone 7. So even if the Phones have something like a reachable slot, it's only made so OEMs can equip the phone with larger pre-built cards.
Chrissicom said:
You can't use your own SD cards with Windows Phone 7. So even if the Phones have something like a reachable slot, it's only made so OEMs can equip the phone with larger pre-built cards.
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Not true. WP7 phones equipped with a SD card slot can be upgraded to a bigger card. BUT you will need to hard reset the phone in order to get the new card recognised.
There are several sites out there reporting this.
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-microsd-slot-exposed/
there seems to be a card slot under the bit of plastic on the back - the lower half of the battery cover section, the part with hd7 and windows phone written on it - but you need to take out a bunch of screws and one of them has a void sticker on it - so guessing it voids the warranty if you do
A little warning :
after you upgraded your phone with a new sd card you can't use that card any-more ad this time (your pc won't recognize it and you can not format it to )
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Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
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Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
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1. yes
2. ??
1. Thats what I have
2. Broken card, throw it away?
Hmmm
1. Been running that for a while.
2. Make sure your PC Reader can support MicroSD before deciding that the PC can't read it (hint - putting the microSD card into the Sandisk larger shell does NOT make it a regular SD card). If you are POSITIVE your computer can read a MicroSD card, and it doesn't register, then toss the card.
jdmba said:
2. Make sure your PC Reader can support SDHC before deciding that the PC can't read it (hint - putting the microSD card into the Sandisk larger shell does NOT make it a regular SD card).
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Corrected above - the adapter DOES turn a MicroSD into an SD, AND a MicroSDHC into an SDHC. But, not all readers can read the HC cards (4GB and more).
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Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
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This has been asked many times and the answer remains yes (the same for the 16 GB version - I use one with my TyTN II).
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
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When you say 'anymore', whats changed? Are you still using the same microSDHC -> SDHC adapter that the card came with and a suitable SDHC compatible reader when testing it on your PC? If so, it's time to get in touch with the company that sold it to you for a warranty claim.
I had a similiar problem. While moving some music over to my 8 gig SD brand card it failed after about 3/4 of the files and then dissapeared. I've tried soft reseting and popping the card in and out and I can't get my phone to recognize it.
I need to get a new usb adapter b/c the I don't think the one I have is hc compatable (it's a few years old) so I have no idea if my computer will recognize it directly. Does this sound like a card issue or phone issue.
Running ATT WM6.1 minus bloat with a few programs (all of which have been running for a week or so no problems). Sorry to hijack, I just didn't want to open a new thread and get flamed.
i got a 4gb micro SDHC, its a sandisk. i got it to upgrade from my 2gb sd, i have read that the HC cards (sorry if the card is in the acronym) are compatible with tytn II's.
it wasn't with my original rom, and now i have tried to new roms both of which wont recognise it at all. is there anything i can do?
patriotaus said:
i got a 4gb micro SDHC, its a sandisk. i got it to upgrade from my 2gb sd, i have read that the HC cards (sorry if the card is in the acronym) are compatible with tytn II's.
it wasn't with my original rom, and now i have tried to new roms both of which wont recognise it at all. is there anything i can do?
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I have 4GB sandisk sdhc card in my Kaiser and its working withot problem.
Did u try to format the card using fat32?
I just put a 16 gig Sandisk in mine last week I found on Amazon.com for about $65. Works fine.
Mack
New owner of Kaiser,I had Artemis and Touch so far,now I want to buy 4gb micro SD card (made by Kingston) for Kaiser, Has anyone had any problems with 4gb miscro SD?Will it work smooth and without any problems?
Thanx in advance
Greets from Serbia!
Since this morning my device is telling me that no Storage Card is inserted. I didn't change anything and the SD has been inside the device all the time. I bought the device around april 2008. I still have to test the card on my PC at home, but I wanted to check what my chances are. What is a bigger change? That the SD card just died on me or that my device has a hardware problem?
Funny thing is that yesterday I flashed to a diffrent ROM. I did a hard reset, still no luck. Flashed with an entirely other ROM, still no luck. So I am hoping its just the SD card that broke. Would be strange if flashing a ROM would cause the SD card hardware inside the device to fail the next day.
gochem said:
Since this morning my device is telling me that no Storage Card is inserted. I didn't change anything and the SD has been inside the device all the time. I bought the device around april 2008. I still have to test the card on my PC at home, but I wanted to check what my chances are. What is a bigger change? That the SD card just died on me or that my device has a hardware problem?
Funny thing is that yesterday I flashed to a diffrent ROM. I did a hard reset, still no luck. Flashed with an entirely other ROM, still no luck. So I am hoping its just the SD card that broke. Would be strange if flashing a ROM would cause the SD card hardware inside the device to fail the next day.
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Try to reformat the sd card with fat32. That helps sometimes.
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Try to reformat the sd card with fat32. That helps sometimes.
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My laptop has a SD reader but it doesnt even map the card to a drive like it usually does. Any tools that I can use?
I already ordered a 8 gig MicroSD which should arrive tomorrow.
I'm not ready to blame my Tilt for my mSDHC problems but it sure seems like theres a lot of posts out there here and other places about people having memory card problems with their Tilt. I"m going to try again but if another memory card fails I'm sending my tilt back and hopefully I can demand to at least upgrade to a Fuze for a cost.
Funny this thread came up as my 4 gig card crapped out on me recently and is unrecogniseable to any device after running the sdhc cab on it. But yea, 8 gig works just fine. Using a 16 gig now with smooth sailing
I hope you guys can help me with the following problem.
I have bought a 16gb MicroSD card (it says it's class 4) from eBay. I copied the files from my old 8gb card to my PC and from there copied the files onto the 16gb card (I put it in an SD adapter and into a USB-stick/adapter and plugged it into a USB port on my computer).
The copying seemed to go well. But when I put the card in my HD2 it can't find the files it's supposed to find. When I put the card back in the USB stick most of the files are replaced by one with a strange code, so all the files I had copied seem to be gone.
I checked if the card was actually 16gb and it was.
Any suggestions for what might cause this problem?
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I hope you guys can help me with the following problem.
I have bought a 16gb MicroSD card (it says it's class 4) from eBay. I copied the files from my old 8gb card to my PC and from there copied the files onto the 16gb card (I put it in an SD adapter and into a USB-stick/adapter and plugged it into a USB port on my computer).
The copying seemed to go well. But when I put the card in my HD2 it can't find the files it's supposed to find. When I put the card back in the USB stick most of the files are replaced by one with a strange code, so all the files I had copied seem to be gone.
I checked if the card was actually 16gb and it was.
Any suggestions for what might cause this problem?
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Two possibilities.
1: "most of the files are replaced by one with a strange code" = You're in the Matrix, agents are coming, RUN
2: You have a dodgy card or a dodgy card adapter.
Format the card, copy files one at a time via active sync. If that doesn't work it's a dodgy card.
i don't want to open another topic... i'm about to buy a 16gb card... what should i look for?... i want something to sustain long video shots... that's why i go 16gb...
so... anyone has a recomandation as in brand or technical details....?
Hi
In my experience when you copy files to any memory stick or card and they become garbage text and can not be found by your device or pc it means it is a fake card and not the stated size. SEND IT BACK !!!
If its cheap its bound to be fake!!
There is a tool online to test memory cards and usb flash drive to prove if they are fake and can hold the amount of data stated.
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Two possibilities.
1: "most of the files are replaced by one with a strange code" = You're in the Matrix, agents are coming, RUN
2: You have a dodgy card or a dodgy card adapter.
Format the card, copy files one at a time via active sync. If that doesn't work it's a dodgy card.
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Thanks. Trying that now (copying files one by one).
BTW, love your KC avatar ;-).
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In my experience when you copy files to any memory stick or card and they become garbage text and can not be found by your device or pc it means it is a fake card and not the stated size. SEND IT BACK !!!
If its cheap its bound to be fake!!
There is a tool online to test memory cards and usb flash drive to prove if they are fake and can hold the amount of data stated.
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Hi, that's what I thought at first, but I used such a tool (I may haven't used it the right way though, should check this out again) and it said it actually is 16 gb. If it keeps giving errors it may be fake, I knew the risk when buying the card (it was cheap, but didn't buy it with Buy It Now, just by bidding). We'll seee what happens, if it keeps giving the errors, I may wait until the 32gb is released.
Ok, I've tested the card and it turns out it's defective. So I'm going to ask for a refund. New and more trustworthy 16 gb card already ordered (still a bit cheaper than the soon-to-arrive 32 gb ).
This article provides information to help you understand how Windows Phone 7 devices use SD cards, the performance requirements of SD cards for Windows Phone 7 devices, and how your phone will behave if you remove the SD card or add a new one.
Some Windows Phone 7 devices include a Secure Digital (SD) card slot underneath the battery cover. If you buy a Windows Phone 7 device that includes an SD card slot, you should be aware of several important differences from other devices that use SD cards:
* The SD card slot in your phone is intended to be used only by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) that built your phone and your Mobile Operator (MO). These partners can add an SD card to this slot to expand the amount of storage on your phone.
* To help ensure a great user experience, Microsoft has performed exhaustive testing to determine which SD cards perform well with Windows Phone 7 devices. Microsoft has worked closely with OEMs and MOs to ensure that they only add these cards to Windows Phone 7 devices.
* You should not remove the SD card in your phone or add a new one because your Windows Phone 7 device might not work properly. Existing data on the phone will be lost, and the SD card in your phone can't be used in other Windows Phones, PCs, or other devices.
Understanding How Windows Phone 7 Devices Use SD Cards
If your Windows Phone 7 device contains an SD card, you should think of it as a permanent component of your phone, not as removable storage. The Windows Phone 7 operating system treats the SD card as an integrated part of the phone. This is in contrast to other devices, where you can use an SD card to increase the memory available to the device at any time or to transfer files to other devices. The phone’s operating system integrates the SD card with the phone:
* When you start your phone for the first time.
* When your phone is reset to its original factory settings. This is called a factory reset. This is a task that is typically only performed by OEMs or MOs.
When the operating system integrates the SD card with your phone:
1. It reformats the SD card.
2. It creates a single file system that spans the internal storage and the SD card.
3. It locks the card to the phone with an automatically generated key.
From this point on, the phone’s operating system uses all of the available memory as a single storage space for storing applications and data. The phone will stop working properly if you remove the SD card, and the SD card cannot be read by another phone, device, or PC.
Performance Requirements for SD Cards
The SD card in a Windows Phone 7 device must meet certain performance requirements for the phone to function optimally. If the SD card does not meet these performance requirements, the phone will have portions of memory that meet the performance needs of the operating system (the internal storage) and portions of memory that do not meet the needs of the operating system (the SD card). This can lead to poor and unpredictable performance when using the phone. This article uses the term Windows Phone 7 compliant to refer to SD cards that meet the performance requirements for Windows Phone 7 devices.
Determining whether an SD card is Windows Phone 7 compliant is not a simple matter of judging its speed class. Several other factors, such as the number of random read/write operations per second, play a role in determining how well an SD card performs with Windows Phone 7 devices.
What to Expect if You Modify the SD Card Slot in a Windows Phone 7 Device
You may experience the following issues if you remove or replace the SD card in a Windows Phone 7 device, or if you add an SD card to a Windows Phone 7 device that has an empty SD card slot.
* Removing the SD Card: If you remove an SD card that has already been integrated with the phone, the phone displays an error message that tells you to reinsert the SD card. All phone functionality is disabled except for the ability to make emergency calls. The phone will function normally again only if you reinsert the original SD card and then start the phone.
* Integrating a Phone with a non–Windows Phone 7 Compliant SD Card: If a non–Windows Phone 7 compliant card is integrated with the phone, you might notice the following performance issues when you use your phone:
o Applications might start more slowly or not at all.
o Transitions between some application screens might stutter.
o Some applications might not respond at times.
Note
In some cases, these performance issues might only be evident after using the phone for some time. For example, if your phone has 8 GB of internal memory and you integrate a non-compliant SD card with the phone, you might notice the performance issues only after the 8 GB of internal memory is filled with applications and media.
* Integrating a Phone with a Different Windows Phone 7 Compliant SD Card: If your phone already has an SD card and then a different Windows Phone 7 compliant card is integrated with the phone, you will lose any data that was stored on the phone, including any applications that you installed from the Marketplace hub. Examples of data that might be stored on the SD card include manually linked contacts, start customizations, and data that applications do not store remotely.
* Adding an SD Card to a Phone with an Empty SD Card Slot: If you purchase a Windows Phone 7 device with an empty SD card slot and you add an SD card to the phone after you start it for the first time, the phone will continue to work properly, but it will not recognize the SD card. The phone will not save applications or files to the SD card.
To use an SD card with the phone, a Windows Phone7 compliant card must be integrated with the phone in one of the scenarios described above in the section Understanding How Windows Phone 7 Devices Use SD Cards.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
This may just be a case of me being genuinely unlucky in my purchases but humour me anyway!
Like you lot I have an SGS and with all the recent mods regarding sound I like to use it as my mp3 player, so buying a micro sd card for additional storage was a must.
I had a spare 4gb class 2 card lying around so I've been using that for some months. Finally decided to upgrade to a more meaningful 16gb class 4 card.
Ordered one off Amazon through a seller. As soon as I put the card in the phone, it refused to recognise it but my PC, digital camera, old blackberry 9000 and n95 saw it just fine. So I formatted the card in the pc using the downloadable SD Card formatter as some googling suggested this might return the card to a working state. After that the phone saw a 16gb card, so I copied some music onto it, it worked for about 30 mins and then the card died totally. Upon reinserting it into the pc, windows only saw an 8mb card in RAW format and nothing I've done since has recovered the card. Card was dead.
Anyway I contacted the seller who posted me a nice shiny Kingson 16gb class 6 card right away.
New card arrived last night, appeared in the phone straight away as a 16gb card. Great start.
Plugged the phone in, started copying some music on it - the write speed was incredibly slow. I mean really slow, 100mb of mp3s was taking the best part of 3 minutes. Popped the card in the PC, same problem.
I find that I can actually write data to the card till its full (albeit slowly) but once you've written more than around 4gb of data, the files start to vanish.
I know it sounds incredibly stupid but anything written after around the 4gb mark just doesn't appear when I plug it into the phone or the PC. The card claims it is full, but only 4gb of data is visible, let alone accessible. I've done the usual formatting of the card and changing card readers etc etc but the result is the same and this is starting to grow boring.
So, question. Am I just incredibly unlucky in my purchases or is my SGS killing cards? Because I'm quite weary of buying yet another card now.
Funny enough my old 4gb card still works just fine like it has for years.
I know you'll have a FAT (file allocation table) that usually reserves a predetermined amount of space on the card for file locations. But your memory card should not be able to accept more than whats available and should be displayed correctly no matter what your using. IE pc or phone. Kingston are fairly reputable, but is your dealer reputable. There are a lot of counterfeits out there. I don't believe the phone itself is damaging these cards. Since your stating your old trusty card still works like a champ
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I have several retired Windows Phone devices from family and friends, screen cracked, battery inflated, etc. Now most of their owners have moved on, and the parts don't even look useful anymore, except for one part: the internal storage. I want to harvest the SD cards from a mix of Windows Phone 7 / Windows Phone 8 / 8.1 devices.
I know that with Windows Phone 7, the file system was LOCKED in a way that not many card readers / devices even recognized. Taking an internal SD card out of a damaged Windows Phone 7 device gives a perfectly normal looking 16GB class 4 microSD card... that can not be accessed, erased, deleted, nuked, formatted, or used, by anything. I've tried countless friends phones, tablets, computers, readers, UBCD, DBAN, utilities, tools, you name it. I have also looked high and low, and have never seen one of the fabled Nokia devices in the wild that can gently format these locked-up microSD cards.
My question for this forum is does Windows Phone 8 also lock the internal SD card filesystem in the same way that WP7 did? Can I extract and harvest the internal 32GB SD cards of some Lumia 920s for use in other devices? I know that 32GB microSD cards are cheap, but that's not the point. I just don't like to see these 32 GB cards go to waste. I'm hoping that I can just take a hammer to my Lumia 920s and pry out the SD card, format it with a card reader, then drop it into my 1520, my tablet, my wife's Galaxy Note 2, etc for extra storage.
A random thought I had was: could it possibly help if I subscribe my company email to the Lumia 920 before smashing it? My company's policy enforces full-disk encryption. I'm curious if the full-disk encryption will help the card be "formattable" as I definitely won't care about the data that's contained on the card. I don't have any dev-unlocked windows phones, and have never sideloaded anything, but I would be open to it if I could get these SD cards to be useable. Some of the WP8 devices turn on and could possibly be manipulated, some can not.
Any help is appreciated!
P.S. - I also have a stash of 16GB SD cards from WP7 phones that I have almost given up on using, but if someone has knowledge about wiping those, I would love to hear it. I have no working WP7 phones, so the solution can't be from any app sideloading.
wp 7 cards can be formatted with a few old Nokias : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
wp8 cards aren't looked at all , you can just pull them out and use ( not even the need to format them.
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wp 7 cards can be formatted with a few old Nokias : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
wp8 cards aren't looked at all , you can just pull them out and use ( not even the need to format them.
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Thanks for the help, ceesheim.
Just to provide an update on this, in case anyone else gets a similar idea. So far I've taken apart a Verizon HTC 8X, and a Nokia Lumia 920, and neither of them had internal MicroSD cards. Both had eMMC implementations, which mean they are not removable. My Nokia Lumia 920 had a Toshiba THGBM5G8A4JBAIM which is a 32GB eMMC chip.
The lesson here is that microSD cards are cheap, and harvesting them from old phones is not worth it!