[Q] Why No Storage Card - HD7 General

I noticed that the specs don't list a storage card. Is this right or are they just not including one?

Unfortunately it is right,no external SD card,it comes with a non removable internal 8Gb card for European.

But it is also available with 16 GB in europe through O2, at least in the UK and Germany.

The US HD7 listed on the Tmobile site says it'll have 16Gb. Also no note of the SD card.
http://htc.t-mobile.com/hd7/?WT.z_unav=mst_disc_innovate_hd7
The Venue oddly enough isn't listed yet.

YannieBoy said:
The US HD7 listed on the Tmobile site says it'll have 16Gb. Also no note of the SD card.
http://htc.t-mobile.com/hd7/?WT.z_unav=mst_disc_innovate_hd7
The Venue oddly enough isn't listed yet.
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The Venue will be sold direct by Dell

I really hate the no expansion card slt feature. This would have been enough to make me surrender my HD2. my 16gb micro sd on my HD is almost full but I have the option to buy 32gb. Might have to wait for 32gn internal mem.

From what I have seen, the WP7 OS will be highly connected to the cloud. Moving the storage needs to your SkyDrive. I have even heard that pictures will be automatically sent to it. Zune for WP7 will most likely be streaming. Therefore the internal storage would be for use when there is no cloud connection.
This is just my best hunch.

In the product description (Produktinformation) from amazon there is a .pdf about the HTC HD 7. (german)
amazon.de/gp/product/B0046RDWBC?ie=UTF8&tag=pocketpc0d-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1638&creative=6742&creativeASIN=B0046RDWBC
Here is the .pdf from amazon.de (german):
g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/03/electronics/B0046RDWBC_TechDet._V197222098_.pdf
Speichererweiterung = memory expansion
microSD memory card
SD 2.0 compatible

I hope there is a sd card but it isn't accessible from outside. So when you open the phone, you can change it (but warranty will be void?!).

bworls said:
From what I have seen, the WP7 OS will be highly connected to the cloud. Moving the storage needs to your SkyDrive. I have even heard that pictures will be automatically sent to it. Zune for WP7 will most likely be streaming. Therefore the internal storage would be for use when there is no cloud connection.
This is just my best hunch.
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"Therefore the internal storage would be for use when there is no cloud connection." Which for some people most of the time. In Europe most carriers are limiting mobile data to 500MB, after that you lose access to all your movies, pictues, and music unless you pay a top-up charge or wait till the end of the month.
The problem now is that OEMs are relying on the Cload, but the Carriers cannot deliver the Cload to meet new demands of the OEMs.
Did I mention extortionat roaming charges for data in europe or all the "dead" spots in london where you can't get data?
The Cload is going to be fiull of thunderstorms!!! You can't beat internal storage.

danielm88 said:
In the product description (Produktinformation) from amazon there is a .pdf about the HTC HD 7. (german)
amazon.de/gp/product/B0046RDWBC?ie=UTF8&tag=pocketpc0d-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1638&creative=6742&creativeASIN=B0046RDWBC
Here is the .pdf from amazon.de (german):
g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/03/electronics/B0046RDWBC_TechDet._V197222098_.pdf
Speichererweiterung = memory expansion
microSD memory card
SD 2.0 compatible
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Let's face it some people screw up! In fact, it's been known for people to just cut and past from a spec sheet from another phone. How does that entry compare to the HD2? Could they have just cut and paste.
Going to the OFFICIAL HTC website (well they might know something about the HG7) there is no mention of SD memory.

lack of a external storage in the WM7 Spec has forced me leave WM
The lack of a external storage in the WM7 Spec has forced me leave WM and order an android Desire HD.
The HD7 should be seen as a downgrade when compared to my much loved HD2. Will miss WM as i have had only WM phones starting with the original O2 XDA and 9 WM phones since. Bye bye Microsoft

Some information (german) about Windows Phone 7 Storage Cards:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/de-de/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx

The CLoud 24HRs?
Since we are going to be connected to this cloud, is it going to be 24 hours or am i going to run into working hours 7am-to 9pm?

kdskds said:
Some information (german) about Windows Phone 7 Storage Cards:
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also available in english:
hxxp://microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx
if I understand it right, they are speaking about a fully integrated storage card, which (possibly) could (but shouldn't (because it's handled like one single storage system)?) be replaced.
But! when they are telling us that there are sd-cards in the wp7 phones which can be replaced, probably we will be able to do so with a hard-reset as a consequence, because it's "integrated"... that wouldn't be that bad from my point of view

adbookeronline said:
Since we are going to be connected to this cloud, is it going to be 24 hours or am i going to run into working hours 7am-to 9pm?
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Don't be silly of course the Cloud is available 24/7, just not when it's raining or snowing. You might find the Cloud foggy at times, but speed soon picks up during thunderstorms.

shinde said:
also available in english:
hxxp://microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx
if I understand it right, they are speaking about a fully integrated storage card, which (possibly) could (but shouldn't (because it's handled like one single storage system)?) be replaced.
But! when they are telling us that there are sd-cards in the wp7 phones which can be replaced, probably we will be able to do so with a hard-reset as a consequence, because it's "integrated"... that wouldn't be that bad from my point of view
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I think as a rule SD cards shouldn#'t be replaced, but some OEMs are putting removeable storage in so that it is easier for them to change the memory configuration during production. I'm sure people will test it when they become available.
The thing that I'd like to know more about is what type of SD card is compatible, the article suggests it is not a standard SD card.

xma1e said:
"Therefore the internal storage would be for use when there is no cloud connection." Which for some people most of the time. In Europe most carriers are limiting mobile data to 500MB, after that you lose access to all your movies, pictues, and music unless you pay a top-up charge or wait till the end of the month.
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Actually that depends on the country. In Germany you can get unlimited data plans starting at 10€/month that include 200 MB of UMTS/HSDPA traffic. After 200 MB you are limited to GPRS or EDGE.
xma1e said:
The problem now is that OEMs are relying on the Cload, but the Carriers cannot deliver the Cload to meet new demands of the OEMs.
Did I mention extortionat roaming charges for data in europe or all the "dead" spots in london where you can't get data?
The Cload is going to be fiull of thunderstorms!!! You can't beat internal storage.
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That is correct. And you also have to think about areas with less than perfect coverage. I frequently travel with a commuter train that runs through a rural area that has very poor coverage. Calls are always possible, but data connections are painfully slow or unavailable.
Internal storage is the most important one and the cloud can only be an optional storage.

No storage card is mainly to do with WP7 being a closed system. Yes most of you hardcore users will dislike that, but the majoirty of us will enjoy it bigtime. If any of you have used an iOS device, you'll see that the overall user experience is just better than winmo or android because 'it just works'.

This is Microsoft's last hoorah in the mobile sofware business. They want to control every aspect of the phone to offer the best experience to the average user... much like what Apple has done. Eventually, some smart person will figure out how to jailbreak and sideload apps but at launch, this won't be available.

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2GB Memory Cards

It seems I just fried parts of my 2GB miniSD I got about a year ago from ebay for about £30ish which was pretty cheap at the time. However it was slow as hell, and in low temperatures (about -25C) ran so slowly it was close to useless.
I dont like the idea of going for a 4GB as there does seem to be a large element in luck if these will work - but I guess (correct me if i am wrong) that there will soon be a ROM accommodating the newer format miniSDs. (Ahem, Mr Faria?)
However - until then I am still in need of a new card and sticking to a reliable old format at 2GB seems to make most sense - but with greater speed than my decomposing cheapo.
The one that looked best initially was the 2GB Utlra II from Sandisk, due to its claimed good transfer rates (10 and 9 meg/s IIRC) - however, I noticed...
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/search
... who I have had loads of good kit from previously, do their own with 20/9 rates and for £10.99 with a 6% discount via www.quidco.co.uk and the tax does not go to Tony Bliars lot, as they are off shore (although get reduced tax for > £18 - so you now can see the reasons for their price structure).
Their postage is £4 but I am due a few other things too, including USB memory pens that work as media in my car radio, and a 4GB Sandisk Titanium U3 as i filled the 1GB one from christmas in no time, and they make writing CDs redundant, so is likely to cancel out with the quidco discount.
Has anyone any suggestions for fast RELIABLE cards - preferably branded as I guess they would be more likely to stick with the same factory.
I look like a Sandisk fan - having mentioned their kit twice - but my first phone with a memory card back in 2001 went through three of their cards, before a cheapo lasted until the phones features were too old to keep using it (but it still works - a SL45).
So any suggestions and thinks in advance?
htc have said that the hardware in most (if not all) of their phones is limited to slower read/write speed cards. ie the card may work in your pc, but the htc hardware is 'not good enough' to read it. the thread is on this forum somewhere...
try this thread
there are no branded (sandisk/kingston etc) cards
edit:if you looked and posted in the accessories thread, not the upgrading thread (which this has no relevance to) then you could find this out for yourself
bbobeckyj said:
edit:if you looked and posted in the accessories thread, not the upgrading thread (which this has no relevance to) then you could find this out for yourself
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I was upgrading an accessory
wizardragon said:
I was upgrading an accessory
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rotfl

Do we think a 16Gb SDHC card would work?

This is sorely tempting - never have to use the MD again and still have plenty of spare space!!
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/12/09/transcend_crams_16gb_onto_tiny.html
Sweet!! Last year 1GB was mainstream, now it's 2GB but it's raising very fast.
I'm waiting on 8GB to be in store, but 16GB sounds more interesting.
apd said:
This is sorely tempting - never have to use the MD again and still have plenty of spare space!!
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/12/09/transcend_crams_16gb_onto_tiny.html
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No, I don't think it would work. Our device is only capable of accepting either the MicroSDHC (with an adaptor) or MiniSDHC.
SDHC's physical dimension is too large to be slotted into our device.
you can get a convertor from sd to micro sd its being on these forums before but this is a good price for anyone looking at the shift to improve batterylife and increase storage for that as it uses sd as far as i remember
eaglesteve said:
No, I don't think it would work. Our device is only capable of accepting either the MicroSDHC (with an adaptor) or MiniSDHC.
SDHC's physical dimension is too large to be slotted into our device.
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They will presumably bring out Mini and Micro versions in the not too distant future....
spzero said:
you can get a convertor from sd to micro sd its being on these forums before but this is a good price for anyone looking at the shift to improve batterylife and increase storage for that as it uses sd as far as i remember
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scissors or pocket knives?
apd said:
They will presumably bring out Mini and Micro versions in the not too distant future....
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Let's hope it's not too distant in the future.
converter from sd to micro or mini.. google search just comes up with mini to sd adapter, ie wrong way round. im getting an athena, and i dont need the space, but would be cool to have the possibilty of paying 60 quid for 16 gb of storage.
and to think, 2 years ago, november 2005, i got a 2gb ms pro duo for my psp and k750 for 80 quid in singapore, when 1gb were 100 quid.. now look lol
should work if it comes in our size miniSD or microsd w/adapter.kaiser is rated up 32gb and i think the athena is the same.
rorydaredkign said:
converter from sd to micro or mini.. google search just comes up with mini to sd adapter, ie wrong way round.
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I did find one once from a no-name mfr in China or Taiwan. It was basically a Mini-SD card with a flat ribbon cable coming out of it into a PCB that had an SD adapter on. I assume it would work, but looks like it would break apart within 5 mins. And added to the fact that you would have to leave the flap open on the athena compartment.
Not quite 16GB yet, but the 12 GB microSDHC is already out. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371700
any capacity will work, provided the device supports sdhc. 32gb is the official (so far) limit on the sdhc capacity
leoni1980 said:
any capacity will work, provided the device supports sdhc. 32gb is the official (so far) limit on the sdhc capacity
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My understnading is that 32 gb is the limit of the current os. Once we upgrade to wm7 this will no longer be applicable.
32gb is the official purported maximum capacity of the sdhc standard, though this 'wall' may be lifted in future (2terabytes if you believe wikipedia). It is certainly not os specific.
I think 32 gigabytes of data storage should be overkill for most people anyway. It seems many people have ample media and software on their microdrive and still have 50 percent left, though if my ssd vs sdhc poll is to be believed some people would like 64gb of storage on their Athenas: whilst this is all good for showing off, in real terms such a large amount of storage would be fairly pointless to the average joe. Only video files could realistically swamp such a chasmic void of memory and who really wants to keep films they've already watched on their hard drive (unless of course it's a particularly good film)?
This principly applies to any phone, pda or multimedia device. One use for which i do propose to use a 32gb sdhc is in my eee pc. Provided the write speed of a class 6 card is fast enough i will use one to install xp and give me the extra space for program files and dowmoads that i crave
leoni1980 said:
32gb is the official purported maximum capacity of the sdhc standard, though this 'wall' may be lifted in future (2terabytes if you believe wikipedia). It is certainly not os specific.
I think 32 gigabytes of data storage should be overkill for most people anyway. It seems many people have ample media and software on their microdrive and still have 50 percent left, though if my ssd vs sdhc poll is to be believed some people would like 64gb of storage on their Athenas: whilst this is all good for showing off, in real terms such a large amount of storage would be fairly pointless to the average joe. Only video files could realistically swamp such a chasmic void of memory and who really wants to keep films they've already watched on their hard drive (unless of course it's a particularly good film)?
This principly applies to any phone, pda or multimedia device. One use for which i do propose to use a 32gb sdhc is in my eee pc. Provided the write speed of a class 6 card is fast enough i will use one to install xp and give me the extra space for program files and dowmoads that i crave
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32GB is the maximum native partition size for window ce 5.0.
32GB is actually not difficult to fill once you start collecting musics, pictures and videos in a serious way. How big is iPod's biggest storage? Larger than 32GB I think. If I have that much space, I would convert all my old CD's and put all my CD in storage for good (may be will bury it for 200 years and have it sold as antique for a fortune then ).
Pictures is another story. It can only grow. I seldom want to delete them ever. My children's photo, no matter how old, must be kept for ever.
Another thing that I must mentioned is the video capture requirement. If you use your video camera, you will notice how quickly the disk storage get used up.
I won't be complaining about having too much disk space for this reason.
I still remember those early days when all we had on our IBM PC was a floppy and could'nt fantom why anyone could use a 10MB harddisk that cost $15,000. When my boss acquired a 100MB notebook, we all said he was insane because nobody should ever need so much space. Then, he went 1 GB! That was unthinkable. I'm seeing the same thing here. When the space is available, we will somehow find use for it, may be slowly, but surely.
May be 5 years later, we can look at this post again, and see if this is true
I agree space, however big can slowly be filled up for being social beings, one way or the other, we will be sentimental on things which we hold dear to us regardless how junk it may be for some other people.
What we are actually seeing here is the old evolution of storage space coming to life all over again. Different it may seem right now because of the difference in medium and usage but I agree with Eaglesteve. It may sound insane now but five years from now, it may look funny not just to us but to those that will replace us that we even talk about these things.
The beauty about having billions of people in this world is that in terms of economies of scale, it is faster to develop technology for everyone to use. Even if a small percentage will adopt a certain size of storage, it is already enough to make it economical for every one to use.
Even if there is a limitation in the OS that we are using right now, who's to say that it will not change in the future. It used to take MS 5 years to develop a new version of the Win CE OS. We have seen how fast Win CE evolved and we already have 1 whole version upgrade every 2 years or so. Every 6 months MS announces an aku upgrade on certain new devices. For me this is very good news, for the average joe this is nothing because he doesn't really care. His only concern is being able to use what he has. Actually the average joe is afraid of change. He wants his life to be better but is afraid of the sacrifices needed to make it better.
We, along with the minority are at the forefront of technological evolution. We are the early adoptors because we have the foresight to see the possibilities technology has in store for all of us. If we stop and become complacent, we will become the average joe and eventually get buried in the mass of zobies or sheep that the average joe really is.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion however crazy or educated they may be. However, an opinion may be shared by not just one or two but also by millions or maybe billions. It maybe that the average joe for now may crave for 8G storage whatever the medium. It may also be that people like leoni may think Asus eee may be a good replacement for the athena. But let us not forget, there are many more not voicing their opinions on this or any topic in and outside the forum.
The vocal ones maybe the catalyst for now but it is the masses or those affected by the mass marketing campaigns of businesses that will ultimately decide the future. Let us not forget though that for there to be a future for every one, we, the visionaries and early adoptors must constantly look choose for the best out there for us and influence others to our thinking. In doing so, we ensure that there will be a future for what we believe in. This is the essence of a forum. This is the reason we are here but then again, this is just my opinion.

[Q] Samsung Focus S Microsd card

There are conflicting reports on whether the Samsung Focus s SGH i937 has an internal micrsd card slot or not, I'm thinking about buying one but I need more storage then 16 gigs and I would like to upgrade to 32 gigs.
No. There is no card slot in Samsung Focus S.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_focus_s-review-690p2.php
Check out the line below the first pic on the page.
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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If someone did a teardown of this device we could know for sure.
mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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That would be totally insane. I was thinking about getting one as well, but after hearing that, I'm not so sure anymore as I to would want to increase available storage space. Why would they do that?
I believe there is a 32 GB version available. Mine has no expansion slot accessible.
Only available in 16GB. No SD slot. The lack of. Sd are support was brought on by the way WP7 interacts with external memory. Which can hinder the user experience. Bing it for more info
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DukeNukem said:
That would be totally insane. I was thinking about getting one as well, but after hearing that, I'm not so sure anymore as I to would want to increase available storage space. Why would they do that?
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its not insane, its irritating.
the inability of WM7 devices to support external micro sd cards has been known for well over a year now. it has to do with WM7 os reading/writing faster than the cards can handle.
...and considering all the cloud based services available now, why would you need more thatn 16 gigs in your device anyway? really, the only things that need to live on the device would be apps. music, pics, and video can all be accesssed from the cloud. imo.
additional storage space
There are success stories of those who replaced their 16gb card with a 32 gb card and probably only a matter of time before somebody explores the same on this device, but again, why would you with all the cloud services. Success stories, specifically, on the Arrive. There are those that replaced their 16gb internal card with a 32gb card and it's working at least as well. Good luck!
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mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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There's alot of evidence out there suggesting NAND is used - not micro sd - that I would personally deem more compelling than a Samsung phone rep's response.
Just Search for "focus s" and "nand"...

SanDisk SDSDQUA-128G-U46A 128GB microSDXC card

Looks like SanDisk is keeping it under wraps - spoke to SanDisk support rep - he denied existance, but the info is getting spread all over the internet and some Taiwanese sites already list it in their inventory, like this one: http://www.sbit.com.tw/en/productsearch.aspx?_searchtext=SDSDQUA-128G-U46A
Making a placeholder thread for this card - please post any news here and of course links, if you see it available. I expect formal announcement from SanDisk in the next couple of months or so
I wonder how much those will go for?
a year ago, when 64GB one, the one in my signature, came out it was $229.99 on SanDisk site...Don't expect this to be any less...after all - it's double in size
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a year ago, when 64GB one, the one in my signature, came out it was $229.99 on SanDisk site...Don't expect this to be any less...after all - it's double in size
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Has the 64gig one only been out a year? Seems longer.
128gig would be welcome.
Apo11on said:
Looks like SanDisk is keeping it under wraps - spoke to SanDisk support rep - he denied existance, but the info is getting spread all over the internet and some Taiwanese sites already list it in their inventory, like this one: http://www.sbit.com.tw/en/productsearch.aspx?_searchtext=SDSDQUA-128G-U46A
Making a placeholder thread for this card - please post any news here and of course links, if you see it available. I expect formal announcement from SanDisk in the next couple of months or so
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It would be much cheaper and even as effective to simply get a Ribbon adapter (microSD to SD) and buy a standard 128GB SD card with a good write speed.
BigBison420 said:
It would be much cheaper and even as effective to simply get a Ribbon adapter (microSD to SD) and buy a standard 128GB SD card with a good write speed.
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That is true and you should theoretically even get better performance and data integrity from the card with the larger surface area. However there is the convenience to the micro sd of have not having to worry about possible mods to make it fit inside your case etc
baileyjr said:
That is true and you should theoretically even get better performance and data integrity from the card with the larger surface area. However there is the convenience to the micro sd of have not having to worry about possible mods to make it fit inside your case etc
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Bingo- I have a ribbon adapter soldered to a Kingston sdcard. Believe me its a pain if I want to remove it to put it in an adapter to go in the PC for whatever reason. It was difficult to solder, it's difficult to fit, and just plain a nuisance overall (but I do love having my 70gb music library and tons of leftover room for videos or whatever). Even I would strongly consider getting a $200 ish 128gb microsdxc.
I don't understand what Sandisk is waiting for. There is obviously a demand for 128GB microsdxc cards. is it possible that Sandisk couldn't manage to fit 128GB on the tiny microsdxc card?(not yet anyway?)
the 128GB SDXC cards are selling quite well... I bought the Sandisk one for only $120 recently.(for use in my camera)
Its a combination of time it takes to develop the technology and making a production pipeline for it. Once its ready they're not gonna make 100 of those cards - they're gonna make 100 million of them.
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If anyone gets one and can test it I'd love to know if it works with a Nokia 808?
I'm desperate to upgrade the 64gb card nside my Symbian mobile to 128g
GlynG said:
If anyone gets one and can test it I'd love to know if it works with a Nokia 808?
I'm desperate to upgrade the 64gb card nside my Symbian mobile to 128g
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Ah. Good ole symbian. Kind of miss it. Wish Nokia had spruced it up.
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centerwaters said:
I don't understand what Sandisk is waiting for. There is obviously a demand for 128GB microsdxc cards. is it possible that Sandisk couldn't manage to fit 128GB on the tiny microsdxc card?(not yet anyway?)
the 128GB SDXC cards are selling quite well... I bought the Sandisk one for only $120 recently.(for use in my camera)
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It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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Yeah but their is a shi* ton of people qho take thousands of pics and videos. Music etc. Unless they go 64GB internal or 128GB internal there is still a need.
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DimeDrl said:
It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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Disagree.
Carriers aren't making the phones. Carriers do want people to rely on added data usage but don't want to over-burden data plans which is exactly what streaming 128 gigs of media would do if it weren't onboard.
My media collection is just over a terabyte still and I have no desire to try to stream that even on my unlimited data plan.
BTW, HTC is also on this 'no expandable storage' kick for some reason. I think they're just being cheap on components to maximize profit.
the delay is most likely they're still testing the card to make sure it works as expected on various devices. These cards are used in other devices besides phones.
I highly double carriers have much input into this. The memory makers are always looking for ways to add more storage and a reasonable price for profit. And more and more, mobile devices are not including ways to expand memory; then the phone can be charge for stupid amount for a tiny bit of extra memory.
Like many, I look forward to having the extra memory. I seem to blow through memory on my phone; yet, not on the tablet.
Cant wait till these are out!
I have way too much music, and to be honest, this would be great for carrying roms and kernels with me, as well as other stuff in case I have to do an emergency reflash. 128GB would be dandy to have.
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I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
Asquared said:
I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
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At the time that the phone was released, the largest capacity sdcx micro card available was 64gb. I suppose that theoretically, the phone might be able to see higher cards when they are released.
8 months ago I bought a SanDisk 64GB micro SD for $56. I think it has been out for almost 2 years. When the 128GB comes out it will drop in price quick. Why? Because they need to get them sold before the 256GB comes out. Then the 512GB. Then the 1TB and so on...
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Asquared said:
I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
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What really matters is that this phone supports microSDXC, so it should support any size microSDXC. All of my android phones worked with the 64gb microSDXC even though this is the first one that officially supported it.

Question What did you do with your micro sd card after you upgraded to S21 Ultra?

Coming from the Galaxy Note 10+, I decided to upgrade to S21 Ultra since it supports s pen. And while I'm a power s pen user, I didn't mind the removal of a few s pen features. What I actually did mind is the fact that they removed the micro sd card slot. I was rocking a 400GB micro sd on my old phone but now I don't know what to do with it. I'm also worried that I might fill up the internal 256GB soon as it had happened to me before, it's why I bought the sd card on my Note 10+ in the first place.
Share what you did with your old micro sd cards and maybe I can find a solution with my small ordeal.
I haven't used an SD card in a phone for 5 years now. I also have not lost a single photo or file due to cloud backups being so efficient.
Easy.. Get USB C MicroSD card reader and plug your old card in. Back up photos when needed..
Send it to Samsung, tell them you want to be reimbursed.
I'm using mine in a dashcam for my car. Over time, the microsd cards can wear out, so it's good to keep feeding the dashcam...
Threw it in my Tab S7+
varcor said:
Send it to Samsung, tell them you want to be reimbursed.
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Moaning about in peoples threads is not going to suddenly make Samsung support SD cards. Got a problem with your phone purchase then go argue with a mirror as that's your fault, plenty of phones that due support them.
lywyn said:
Moaning about in peoples threads is not going to suddenly make Samsung support SD cards. Got a problem with your phone purchase then go argue with a mirror as that's your fault, plenty of phones that due support them.
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Nope, won't be trading a horse for a donkey. It cost me an extra $400 to aquire a device with the amount of storage I need because greedy Sammy pulled the plug on MicroSD with their flagship smartphone. For that amount I'm entitled to moan as much as I like!
Put it in my backup s8+. I'm really hoping they come back with microSD support cause like you, I bought a 400gb card. And it's actually nice to have the option of backing up my pictures to card and uploading them through cloud
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Nope, won't be trading a horse for a donkey. It cost me an extra $400 to aquire a device with the amount of storage I need because greedy Sammy pulled the plug on MicroSD with their flagship smartphone. For that amount I'm entitled to moan as much as I like!
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You bought an expensive phone that doesn't do what you want it to do. The only thing you're "entitled to moan about" is your bad decision making. Like someone moaning the car they bought does not have 2 wheels because they wanted a motorbike
lywyn said:
You bought an expensive phone that doesn't do what you want it to do. The only thing you're "entitled to moan about" is your bad decision making. Like someone moaning the car they bought does not have 2 wheels because they wanted a motorbike
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That's your opinion which means nothing to me. I made the right decision, Samsung is the one who blew chunks lowering internal storage capacity and dropping external storage. Most users feel the same, if you don't agree who cares?
Had a 256GB card almost full on my S8 and it's still sitting around.
Don't really care about photos or videos since I can cloud store whatever, but I like to have my music on the phone to listen on the go through a DAC.
Down to 170GB free at the moment on the 512GB phone, but I could probably clean up around 5GB.
You can never have too much backup storage although hdds are preferable over flash. Good for backing up that lame one drive phone
Meh I'm still running my 10+ still on Pie because both Samsung and Gookill dropped the ball multiple times.
No SD card slot, no sale.
Samsung been playing this game for years, lol it's not the end of the SD card slot for Sammy unless they're hell bent on losing a big chunk of their customer base.
As it is now Android 11 is dud. More fail to come with 12 as well? I might just be running 10+'s for a couple more years.
Whatever, I don't care, fk 'em.
The only upgrade I'm doing is going from a 512gb card to a 1tb V30 card
Maybe buy another 10+ or less likely a 20U.
Sammy dearest; actions have consequences...
Save them for the Note 22 Ultra which will have the SD card slot again.
felloffthetruck said:
Save them for the Note 22 Ultra which will have the SD card slot again.
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Heh, of all the good suggestion here this is the one I think I'll agree on the most, albeit a bit ridiculous. However, since I just renewed my contract with my network provider this year, I won't be able to get a new phone until 2023, so maybe Note 23? Lol
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Save them for the Note 22 Ultra which will have the SD card slot again.
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I hope this is true. If not, I'll have to move on to Sony phones. My 1tb card is sitting in .y drawer waiting to be used again. In the meantime I'm managing the space on my phone all the time to make sure I don't go over. Makes it inconvenient.
varcor said:
That's your opinion which means nothing to me. I made the right decision, Samsung is the one who blew chunks lowering internal storage capacity and dropping external storage. Most users feel the same, if you don't agree who cares?
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I don't care but your repetitive moaning instead of helping or answer the questions is ruining it for the rest of us. You just band on how angry are at yourself for buying a phone, get over it, move on.
Sold it. 8 dollars is a sume.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08C7FC...abc_Z8D7VNCH5HV1W3Z0NKW1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
You can use an adaptor to transfer your stuff to SD card
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Turn it into a backup drive but always back that up redundantly with at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other. No such thing as too much backup.
Since you lost the data drive capacity with the SD card slot frequent internal memory backups are mandatory. A .5tb flash stick is the easiest then verify the data and back it up to the stand alone hdds. Staggering the hdd backups to the hdds helps to prevent possible malware data lose.
Flash memory by it's self is not a good backup plan... use hdds as the primary backup. Keep the backups off the PC OS hdd.
The best setup is always separate OS and data drives... Samsung
lywyn said:
I don't care but your repetitive moaning instead of helping or answer the questions is ruining it for the rest of us. You just band on how angry are at yourself for buying a phone, get over it, move on.
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Wrong again, guess you didn't notice XDA changed course and decided to post a link for unlocking US Branded devices after myself and others raised objections. Samsung may do the same as they pay close attention to posts in thus forum. Your opinion won't alter my dissent but you might want to apply for a position in Samsung's PR Department, your defense of their brain dead move will likely gain you a fast promotion.

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