Having come from a long line of WinMo phones, all of which had resistive screens, I have ordered a Dell Streak based purely on its size. I am a heavy PDA user and a light phone user.
However, two of the things that I really like about the resistive screen are that (a) I can have a lot of information on the screen at any one time and click on any of it with the stylus and (b) I can use handwriting recognition for all of my text input.
I realise that a capacitive screen cannot do either of these, but I am wondering how effective the capacitive stylii that are advertised actually are.
Anybody got any experience with them?
Got one, don't use it. There may be differences in quality, the one I have works 'reasonably' well, but not well enough to use on a regular basis, it has a flat sponge type of tip.
The first one I bought from eBay turned out not to be for a capacitive screen (seller refunded without argument) so you do need to be careful.
I have one, use it often to draw on the streak. It does take a bit of getting used to, but they're accurate and feel a little more organic (because of the soft tip) than 'regular' styluses.
Got one, don't like it. It came free with some screen protectors.
I'm not sure if it's a high quality one or a cheap one (exspect branded), but I can't get on with the spongey feel of the tip.
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Not that I am really disappointed with the Kaiser, but I have been wondering as of late if the Crusie might be a better fit for me. All things considered, internally the two are pretty similar with the only additional feature of the Crusie being FM radio, which I would probably use.
Externally, the Cruise goes SANS keyboard in favor of the touch screen. In keeping with the touch screen design, it has far fewer buttons over all and has a slight size advantage.
So looking at it, the package is pretty attractive, seems less prone to mechanical wear and tear and I find myself wondering if I could do without the slide out keyboard. I am pretty good with the block recognizer, and in cases where I might use a keyboard, some of the adaptations of the iPhone soft keyboard seem like they would be a decent alternative for my relatively light keyboard use.
Getting down to it though, I am a bit concerned I would be disappointed with the touch screen, and if the touch screen does not work well, I would definitely rather have the keyboard.
So my question is if anyone has some hard facts on the differences between the screen technologies. does it work like the iPhone where it responds only to touch, not to inadvertant tabs while in you pocket or in the case?
Can anyone can provide a "hands on" comparison between using the touch features on the Kasier, vs using the touch features on the Cruise. Or given that the Cruise is pertty new, is the Elf screen technology exactly the same such that trying one out would give me a good indication of how the Cruise would work?
At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?
yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.
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I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
madmackem said:
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£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.
i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
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madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.
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No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.
I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin
It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.
try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...
There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD
I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!
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I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!
has anybody purchased the HD2 stylus yet? the screen may be huge, but I miss using a stylus for texting. I have read really bad reviews, but I do want one.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50
Ordered These
I ordered these, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...849513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2824wt_911 and will let y'all know how they work. Even if they don't, they were only $4.
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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Unfortunately, that is the problem with the capacitive screen. The so-called stylus is actually something that emulates your finger tip in terms of contact area. Personally, a very sensitive resistive screen, such as in Samsung I8000 (Omnia 2) is better than the capacitive screen if you do a lot of text work involving copying, cutting and pasting!
Does anyone know of a good stylus for the Notion Ink Adam? Mine just shipped and I am thinking about getting a stylus to take notes, on the subject of notes does anyone know of a good note taking program for things like math and diagrams (for use with said stylus )
I Second that!
I have no experience with a stylus on capacitive screens at all.
You have the HTC styluses for desire Z. I'm just worried they might scratch the screen when used for writing.
Others that have like a little cushion on the tip don't seem really accurate for writing and annotating.
At NCW HTC launched its own tablet which has a pointy stylus Which should work with a capacitive screen.
It looks like the rep refers to 2 buttons on the stylus to either highlight or write/ draw. I wonder if that stylus would also work on other capacitive screens like the Adam.
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best buy sells a 20 dollar stylus by targus with a rubbery tip that doesnt scratch, its what I use.
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
Screens pls, btw i found 1 long time ago in eBay, Google buy then back for mich money
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I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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I definitely appreciate the suggestion, but I'm specifically looking for input on where I can get replacement screens. I don't mind cracks in screens personally (swappa boneyard represeeeeent! lolol), but with my last N6 screen cracking from compromised glass up top, I'm paranoid of any use doing the same to the prototype display. I want to either use it or sell it, and as long as the glass is broken I can't really do either :crying:
Finding a prototype display is going to be virtually impossible due to ridiculously limited quantities, and replacing it with a production model version - if that's even doable - would kill any value the prototype might still have. If you're looking to use it, you're probably going to have to fish for a production screen and hope Motorola didn't make any changes between the prototype and production model.
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Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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Have you seen any more of these around?
I'd be interested in a Prototype Nexus 6 in any shape.
Heck, if you're interested in selling yours, I'd be interested (just PM me if).
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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I replied you and him only to tell that it's really hard , only to let you know and to let him know before he tries to order the glass,try to separate that from display and make it worse . Oled displays goes completely black if broken ,instead of LCD that stay alive .
I know procuring one is next to impossible. The reason I asked is because I had seen a large batch of them sold on eBay sometime last year. So people expecting them to work for their regular Nexus phones (they don't; ribbons are slightly different) bought them and ended up not being able to use them. A shot in the dark for sure, haha. Otherwise I have replacement production glass, LOCA, and a plate and wire to do the job properly, it's just as all stated in the original post: failure is an absolute game over. A screen with cracked glass is much more functional than a dead screen with good glass, you know?