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NOOB here please help

so some of these questions might be stupid ill admit it. how big of a chance is there that i brick my phone trying to root it. and if im planning to get a bigger sd card should i get it before i use my original sd card and root it. also if i ever need to how hard is it to put the phone back to sprints os. and anyone one with good advice im open ears guys.

General thread, just for future reference. As far as bricking your chances are pretty slim, just make sure not to flash a GSM radio.

TXDarkKnight said:
so some of these questions might be stupid ill admit it. how big of a chance is there that i brick my phone trying to root it. and if im planning to get a bigger sd card should i get it before i use my original sd card and root it. also if i ever need to how hard is it to put the phone back to sprints os. and anyone one with good advice im open ears guys.
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rooting your phone: pretty much no chance. don't hold me to this though, if you somehow manage to do it. even if you do screw it up, the RUU(the thing that puts you back to sprint's os) can easily be run from a computer and it'll pretty much fix your phone.
most important thing: NEVER flash a gsm radio. those things will really mess up your phone because it'll never turn on after you do that.
about the sdcard... it shouldn't really matter which one you use unless you're using apps2sd.

Hey thanks what about the micro sd card thing
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Hey thanks what about the micro sd card thing
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The sd card thing doesnt matter. You can get a new one after you are rooted and running a custom rom

Thanks man what's gsm radio and what type of sd would you recommend for saving apps
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Thanks man what's gsm radio and what type of sd would you recommend for saving apps
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With sd cards, there is a 'class' number. The higher number you have, the better it is. I'd go with class 6 or higher. And if you just stay in the CDMA forum, you shouldn't have any problems. Just don't flash any roms or radios that dont mention CDMA

Once again you rock bro thanks I was gonna use the steps that were posted under the rooting cdma hero for Windows does that one look like it would be good for someone like me to follow
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Once again you rock bro thanks I was gonna use the steps that were posted under the rooting cdma hero for Windows does that one look like it would be good for someone like me to follow
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You could just Google "fresh pre kitchen" or just "fresh kitchen", those things will basically root your phone for you

Do you have a link for the best place to get fresh kitchen so many pop up when you Google it
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http://geekfor.me/kitchen/

kudos for u guys for helping him out, this is what the community is all about. Even though he didnt post in the right forum you guys just let him know where to go next and then helped him out. these little things can make the forums better and better
2 cents

so i downloaded kitchen is it as easy as just clicking the auto root button seems to easy

so i downloaded kitchen is it as easy as just clicking the auto root button seems to easy
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Nope, its that easy. There are a couple of steps but easy as it gets.
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ok im rooted go team venture now yet another question anyone have the best 2.1 rom or a good one thats pretty stable.

Fresh2.0http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643034 or Damage Controlhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656690
I prefer fresh rom

Basically it's just trial and error. It's pretty easy to flashthe ROM's so you can keep changing them until you find something you like..
When you flash any ROM you will usually need to wipe your phone and this will cause anything not backed up will be lost. i make sure I save all contacts as a google type. That way when you flash a new ROM and you sign into google again all your contacts will be restored. There are several apps in the market to back up apps you have downloaded.
But before you do that, boot into recovery...hold down home and power to turn on the phone and do a nandroid. Then mount your sdcard and save the files inside the nandroid folder on your sdcard to your computer. This should be your nandroid of the original 1.5 ROM.

on the roms when it says to save to root folder is that the same as the nandroid folder cause when i mount my sd there is no folder that labeled root

ha im retarted didnt read it good enough you answered that already. on my contacts list if the person has google next to there name does that mean is saved to google and where on google can i see them. i wasnt told or shown anything when i got this phone im sure this stuff is basic

heres a question: If I were to root and do a custom ROM, how assured am I that when sprint releases 2.1, I can do that upgrade?

cognition 2.2 beta9 installs but loops recoverymode

Ok so I'm an android newb. My captivate is rooted. I have that over the air update that ATT sent out. So I went to the forum post in the Dev section that was the cognition beta 9 for eclair. I downloaded it but in on my internal SD card. I opened up ROM manager and downloaded clockwork recovery mod. From there I selected install Rom from SD card and selected the cog beta 9. I selected to do a backup. Then it went into recoverymode and began backing up my phone when it was done it immediately began to install the Rom. Install was succefull but then I couldn't get out of recovery mode. I tried reinstalling rebooting taking battery out but as soon as it would start to reboot it would go into recovery mode without me holding the volume up or down buttons. After an hour of no success I decided to restore my back up. What did I do wrong? Remember I am an android newb so if you see what I did wrong please explain in simple terms. Thankx.

Honestly? What you did wrong was installing a ROM without sufficient research. The Cog thread had plenty of people reporting this problem within an hour of B9 being released. It's a problem with the ROM, the only reliable way to install it right now is through Windows with Odin.

I stated I was new to android. I tried looking through the forms but all the terms confused me. Sorry that I came to a forum for help and to learn about android. Sorry for not meeting your standards.
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There aren't any standards, just the expectation that if you want to LEARN that you'll READ. Just take your time and don't shy away from reading and, most importantly, knowing what it is that you're flashing to your device. If you're new to Android then don't put something on your phone without reading up on other people's experiences. You asked me what you did wrong so I told you, other than that it sounds like you did everything correctly!

Your right. I'm sorry. I was being arrogant. But I've been looking all over the web for a link to download 8.1 straight to my phone. I don't have access to a computer so I can't so beta 9. Would you happen to know a link to a Download for 8.1?
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No I don't but I have it. My internet connection is terrible so it'll take a while but I'll upload it to rapidshare and post it here later unless someone beats me to it.
Personally, I'm far too queasy to risk flashing custom roms without having Odin as a fall-back, cheers for your courage haha.

Haha thanks, but seeing as I don't have access to a computer, do I really have a choice? Call me brave, or call me a loser for not having a working computer.
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If DG still has it on his site, you could take the current download link and change beta9 to beta8.1

bobbylx said:
If DG still has it on his site, you could take the current download link and change beta9 to beta8.1
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Good call. http://www.ponack.net/designgears/Cognitionv2.2BETA8.1.zip

Thanks bobbylx ill download it rite now
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It worked great. Thanks.
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Serendipity 5.12

Ok, so i just flashed this rom and so far so good, no problems flashing, which i am surprised as this is the first time i've done this.
The only issue i have is that there is no email app. I guess i should of gone into the kitchen and got that, but i was overwhelmed and just plain forgot.
Is there anyway that i can get that without having to reflash the rom completely?
Thanks

Sure. Just download the zip from the kitchen. Reboot into recovery and flash the zip. Any of the add-ons can be flashed. You don't have to reflash the rom again.
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Hey thanks. I thought by adding those it would include the complete rom also. I'll give it a try.

Ok so i went to the kitchen and got what i needed. It all seemed to work properly except the Samsung keyboard. I really don't like theis roms keyboard. I like the colors and stuff. Should i try and reinstall that or does that go hand in hand with Samsung mms apk too?

I'm not sure about that. There's a "Serendipity Q&A" thread at the Captivate Q&A section. You'll get a quick reply there.
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mthayer1 said:
Ok, so i just flashed this rom and so far so good, no problems flashing, which i am surprised as this is the first time i've done this.
The only issue i have is that there is no email app. I guess i should of gone into the kitchen and got that, but i was overwhelmed and just plain forgot.
Is there anyway that i can get that without having to reflash the rom completely?
Thanks
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should be in the serendipity Q & A if it isnt go there and ask it, not in the themes and apps forum.........

Sorry didn't notice a section for that here. I didn't see a section for roms specific to the captivate. Themes and apps were the closest thing. Anyway....
I found the problem. Thanks. So far so good with this rom
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I have noticed one thing with this rom so far. Maybe it's me but i can't get picture or video messages. It has a button to download but it never downloads. Will try going back to samsung mms and see what happens. I'm thinking of switching to Di11i's rom. But we will see.
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Can't mount SD with serendipity 5.12
I have a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate.
I'm just starting to flash roms and I stumbled upon this old version of this ROM and I really like it. I would like to flash the version 6.2, but I'm have a dilemma.
My computer is not recognizing my phone at all. I'm not able to mount my SD card onto my computer so I can transfer files. I do have an external SD and I'm gnna try to put it on there and then use it to transfer it to the internal SD and then flash it. (that is if I find my mini SD adapter thing...)
Can anyone help me? please.

May have to get the usb drivers.
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LionSteel1 said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate.
I'm just starting to flash roms and I stumbled upon this old version of this ROM and I really like it. I would like to flash the version 6.2, but I'm have a dilemma.
My computer is not recognizing my phone at all. I'm not able to mount my SD card onto my computer so I can transfer files. I do have an external SD and I'm gnna try to put it on there and then use it to transfer it to the internal SD and then flash it. (that is if I find my mini SD adapter thing...)
Can anyone help me? please.
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Got another computer you can use?

I've tried that and it still doesn't work. I've flash 6.3, but I had to download the zip file directly to phone and do everything from there.
I'm gnna try to flash a different rom and see what's up.

Do I have to go back to stock?

I'm sorry if someone already asked this question but I was not able find an answer. I am running a custom ROM now, do I have to go back to stock before flashing another ROM?

It is usually not necessarily to do it but it a very good idea to return to stock and master clear with the odin-1-click
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No you don't need to go back to stock. Nor is is necessary to master clear. Most if not all the roms on here will do a full wipe of your SD card during the install. Flashing back to stock just adds another chance to mess up your phone. This was advised, several months back but it's not necessary now. This doesn't apply if you want to flash to CM7. They have their own install procedure that is different than anyone elses.

Just to add to what the others said. Make sure u flash a 2.2 based rom over ur curent (if thats what u are.using atm). Also you cant restore system app, it will screw up with ur new rom!
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BWolf56 said:
Just to add to what the others said. Make sure u flash a 2.2 based rom over ur curent (if thats what u are.using atm). Also you cant restore system app, it will screw up with ur new rom!
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The 2.2 stock will not let you flash a rom over it. Go back to 2.1 stock
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crystalhand said:
The 2.2 stock will not let you flash a rom over it. Go back to 2.1 stock
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Not what I meant.
If he flashed, lets say, FireFly (which is 2.2 based) then he can't flash over with, lets say, CM7 (which is 2.3 based). Just simple logic
@ OP - You can look on the ROM's thread to see what it is based on.

Thank you for all your help. I'm using Phoenix Ultimate now and want to try out the other ROM.

It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install. Plus all the devs put that in their instructions. I trust the devs.
If you download the CWM update.zip before you Odin to stock and leave it on your phones internal SD card, you don't have to root or get ROM manager. Place your new ROM on the internal card too. Just Odin to stock, allow to boot, and restart into recovery (3 button combo), install updates (twice) then use CWM to install zip from card (ROM you downloaded).
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It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install.
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One less time touching Odin is one less time tempting fate. But that's just me. I'm pretty sure every rom dev in here has bricked a phone at least once...

much agreed. less odin. less potential for problems.
roms do a wipe now. doesnt matter what you had on it 2.1 or 2.2
2.3 is the only rom version that has a different partition table.
there is no issue flashing a 2.2 rom over 2.1 or vice versa. how CAN you upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2?? CWM anyone? oh **** right!
the only issue with flashing over 2.2 is the 3e recovery... and thers a fix for that. you dont need to go back to 2.1 to avoid the signature verification error... @crystalhand...

quarlow said:
It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install. Plus all the devs put that in their instructions. I trust the devs.
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Not all devs put it in their op. Some devs say flash first thru clockwork and only use odin when there are problems. Odin could be better used as a recovery tool only, not the first thing you do whenever you want to flash a new rom. Just my opinion.
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Odin could be better used as a recovery tool only, not the first thing you do whenever you want to flash a new rom. Just my opinion.
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EXACTLY as it should be.....

No, odin is potentially more dangerous than any standard rom flash. as has been mentioned, use in case your in some s

I've always flashed back to stock using Odin whenever I flash a new rom. Like someone else on this thread said, it just feels cleaner doing it that way. While I don't doubt you guys when you say it's dangerous, would anyone like to offer a brief explanation as to why that is? And would anyone be willing to guess at what the odds of a permanent brick might be? Are we talking something like 1 in every 10 flashes or more like 1 in 1000?
If it's closer to the first one then we really are playing with fire here but if the odds are more like the second one then I don't consider that much of a risk.

Juanmail15 said:
I've always flashed back to stock using Odin whenever I flash a new rom. Like someone else on this thread said, it just feels cleaner doing it that way. While I don't doubt you guys when you say it's dangerous, would anyone like to offer a brief explanation as to why that is? And would anyone be willing to guess at what the odds of a permanent brick might be? Are we talking something like 1 in every 10 flashes or more like 1 in 1000?
If it's closer to the first one then we really are playing with fire here but if the odds are more like the second one then I don't consider that much of a risk.
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I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.

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I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.
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Odin should only be used as a "Oh S**T I bricked my phone" program. But then again, if you read and know what you're doing than it should never be "needed"

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I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.
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Completely agree just want to clarify 1 thing. The roms don't do a complete wipe of the sdcard. The wipe the /data /cache and /system partitions, leaving the /sdcard completely intact, just like flashing to stock would. Master clear just reformats /sdcard partition and is not really needed as the os doesn't use this to function and including this in a rom would be catastrophic if the zip is in fact on the /sdcard partition you are wiping with it.

The most I do is clear cache, data and disable lagfix.

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If you download the CWM update.zip before you Odin to stock and leave it on your phones internal SD card, you don't have to root or get ROM manager. Place your new ROM on the internal card too. Just Odin to stock, allow to boot, and restart into recovery (3 button combo), install updates (twice) then use CWM to install zip from card (ROM you downloaded).
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So you'd just drop the update.zip on your internal drive, drop the ROM in as well, boot into recovery and flash it that way?

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So you'd just drop the update.zip on your internal drive, drop the ROM in as well, boot into recovery and flash it that way?
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Yup. That's how u do it, if you have no need to root before hand and back up, I'm assuming you've done that if I remember right you are the girl I told to brick her phone yesterday to return, is the replacement on eclair or froyo? Ig it on froyo you will have to get past the 3e recovery that's why I ask.

New to Rom Flashing - URGENT Help needed!

Hi all,
Sorry if i sound stupid, but I am new to all of this. I am trying to flash a gingerbread ROM onto my Rogers branded captivate. Currently I am running Rogers stock Froyo.
I have rooted and unlocked my phone using one click root, and the SGS unlock tool from the android market. I have also applied Ryans OCLF. I have busybox installed and the lasted version of Rom Manager.
However, every time i go to backup my stock rom using rom manager, nothing happens. I try to first flash the Clockwork Mod recovery, select the Captivate file and let the phone reboot, black screen with a yellow exclamation point in a white triangle with a Droid device laying under it. It will sit there forever until I manually restart the phone, at which point it acts fine.
I have backed up using titanium backup but cannot do it thru ROM manager. I have read countless forums, but it havent found a solution that works.
So i decided to proceed without a backup. I tryed to put the phone in download mode using the buttons so that I can flash it using ODIN but it doesnt go into download mode using any of the buttom press methods. I have tried to reinstall the packages from the boot menu, but i then get an error saying "e: failed to verify whole signature...."
I have also put a copy of the recently leaked gingerbread rom on my SD card and tried to install the ROM using rom managers install ROM from SD card, but i get the same black screen with yellow exclamation point and nothing happens until i maually start the phone.
I have no clue what I am missing? How to fix this? I have read and watched so many tutorials, followed all the steps. THey seem so easy on paper, but nothing that is supposed to happen, happens for me. Anyone have any suggestions on what I am doing wrong?
Please help!!

You need to follow installation instructions in the thread for whatever GB rom you are installing TO THE LETTER.
Which one are you trying?

You need to search for fixing the 3e recovery. 3e won't let you install custom roms. Also rom manager is just a gui interface for clockwork mod so in. wouldn't use it
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You need to follow installation instructions in the thread for whatever GB rom you are installing TO THE LETTER.
Which one are you trying?
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I was trying to install the Official Gingerbread 2.3.3 for Captivate that was just leaked for the ATT captivate. I beleive the build number is I897UCKF1.
I do remember seeing the 3e recovery in the boot menu. Thanks alot, I will try to find a recovery fix and try that, then post the update.
Thanks alot for the suggestions so far. Its greatly appreciated!

Please for the love of all that is good in the world, do some research before you brick yourself for good. All of your issues would have not happened had you read more first before jumping in. I have seen far to many of these types if threads lately. Yes it takes a few hours to go through the threads but you save yourself the time you would spend (sometimes days) fixing your mistake.

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Please for the love of all that is good in the world, do some research before you brick yourself for good. All of your issues would have not happened had you read more first before jumping in. I have seen far to many of these types if threads lately. Yes it takes a few hours to go through the threads but you save yourself the time you would spend (sometimes days) fixing your mistake.
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Your absolutely right, I did ALOT of reading, been doing so alot over a few weeks. Unfortunately, (or perhaps, I did not do enough digging) none of the tutorials, even the ones for beginners that i found on this forum mentioned anything about finding a fix for the 3e recovery. No one mentioned that the 3e Recovery bundled with the Rogers version of Froyo did not allow the install of custom roms, it also did not allow backups. Thanks to Crystalhand for letting me know this.
Anyway i found this link which helped:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
I am FINALLY able to make a full backup image of my stock ROM and apps using CWM. This puts me more at ease now knowing i can also revert to stock if i install a rom that is not working properly for me.
The backup is completing as I type this. I will update again once I am able to install the gingerbread Rom I wanted to install.
Thanks again to all of you for the help!

that backup is not to restore the stock rom directly from whatever you flash. that is an imaage of your set up on stock rom. so you have to use odin to flash back to that stock rom you are on then restore that backup and it will be like you never flashed anything at all. if you just restore that backup onto the custom rom you flash it will not work properly.
the app backup your making with titanium backup will restore your apps on whatever you flash, but the rom backup doesnt work like that.

I would suggest using designgears odin 1 click, becuase no offence but you seen new and that would be least likely way for you to hard brick going to gb... Good luck
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Flashing is usually easy and safe (for the most part). But if something happends and it gets bricked u could always make/buy jigs. Easiest way to make I've seen is
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841512
Or you can buy them for about $8 maybe more depending your location (making em can cost less). The only thing I haven't tested the jig with is messed up bootloaders, example flashing gb bootloaders and flash froyo secundaries, everything else the jig works (atleast my experience)
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Flashing is usually easy and safe (for the most part). But if something happends and it gets bricked u could always make/buy jigs. Easiest way to make I've seen is
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841512
Or you can buy them for about $8 maybe more depending your location (making em can cost less). The only thing I haven't tested the jig with is messed up bootloaders, example flashing gb bootloaders and flash froyo secundaries, everything else the jig works (atleast my experience)
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With messed up bootloaders you have to jtag
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leezrd said:
With messed up bootloaders you have to jtag
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Well that's good to know. I'm not paying $150 for a jtag.
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$50 not $150.

prbassplayer said:
Well that's good to know. I'm not paying $150 for a jtag.
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Actually $50 by connexion 2005 but still expensive got something you don't need you to do
EDIT: Nevermind studacris beat me by a couple second to it
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studacris said:
$50 not $150.
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Oh? where?
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Actually $50 by connexion 2005 but still expensive got something you don't need you to do
EDIT: Nevermind studacris beat me by a couple second to it
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Dosen't he charge $50 for a fix? not the jtag itself?

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