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Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
Very useful thread... one of many.
With some tweaks the HTC performs well. Even the battery.
kareem9nba said:
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
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True, but my Prophet and Trinity were not anywhere close to the level of "suck" that this phone comes to.
bakman said:
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
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3 days? which rom are you running?
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
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so what ? return for refund, i`ll keep mine nothing change
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
It's just not performing poor.
Just installed HTC's own new 1.37 rom ... and see, it's a almost full functional device!
Fast, no lags (it's not a 3300 nokia!!) lots of usability, navigating, mailing, exchange, foto's, sound, browsing, the whole bunch in my pocket.
A lot of these topics, but I am glad i bought one
I must say battery life is very poor in music playback with set of stereo bluetooth hedphones, i get about 3 hrs max just using music and no phone calling etc. it seems to me that when the battery gets to the last 2 bars it doesnt last long at all. im on the latest rom, phone calling/sat nav and surfing via 3g doesnt seem to be that much of a problem to me battery wise. Ill be picking up the extended battery, i wouldnt swap this phone for any other though!
yegor said:
Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
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Just had a nice time reporting you (c)
Besides, he was right.. The phone is not as bad as you said, the things you said just prove that you don't know how to use it to it's potential, that's all...
Yes, I don't own a Diamond (waiting for the Pro), but from what I can see on this forum, for each 10 whining people, there are 50 or more who love the phone after tweaking it for themselves..
The topics like this are pretty much useless, as the only thing they contain is whining, but don't actually give anything useful
My regards..
P.S. You are russian, aren't you?
This is the best phone I ever used
With the reg tweaks here from the wiki the battery lasts about 2 days - I can live with that (remembering my "old" PDAs where battery lasts not a half day *ggg*). We wanted it full featured and slim - so we habe to live with this "battery issue".
But I ordered the extended battry from HTC yesterday - just in case
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This is the best phone I ever used
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/me cheers
IMO A2DP is going to drain the battery of any phone?
Whats battery life like on core player with corded headphones?
The rom that came with it (for most people) is slowwww.
A rush to get the phone out i think, but i think alot of people would have made that compramise - have the phone 3 weeks ago with a slow rom and be able to upgrade it around now.
Check the roms section you can find the official rom updates for each region there. You don't need to do any hard SPL modifications to use those, and therefore shouldnt affect your waranty. I would suggest that first.
Flaming is just pointless, and alot of people had the same thoughts at 1 point, i know i did!
I'm looking to get a Diamond and TBH find threads like this useful. I know its a Marmite kinda thing (love it or hate it) but it gives a indication of what the phone is like.
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
If he said the phone was one of the best ever made you wouldn't slate him and degrade him....so why do it otherwise???
Afterall its a Forum and peoples opinions are their own! Forums wouldn't exist otherwise!
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from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Thats a good price. If you dont mind me asking, how are you getting it for £230 Non Contract?
I have to say this is probably the most ocvered topic for every single HTC out there, I have had almost all production releases and everytime someone always states its the worst phone ever! truely this can't be the case.
There are phones that have been much worse and this is a PDA with lots of extras that why you pay more oh and the fact you purchased it so early. give it a chance with a newer rom.
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I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Where in the hell are you getting it for £230? Link please..
I am a Tilt 2 user... I have been playing with alot of the different roms out there and i find them all to be very similar. I dont know what the difference is in Manilla, and Sence. I kinda fingured out what HTC messaging is... Not a big fan of it.
Here is what I am looking for:
SPEED.... when I press a button... i want it to get to that screen fast! I dont use many apps other than basic features. MMS, SMS, EMAIL, PHONE, and Camera. I do sometimes use the GPS. but not often. I could care less about the stocks feautre.
I prefer the windows threaded mesages... not the HTC one.
I do like the Facebook integration on some of the roms but that is not required.
What would you guys say is my best option at this time? Titanium?
I second this. I have never worked with a phone that is so SLOW.
I have no choice but to use this phone as it is supplied by work.
Fast rom needed.
HALP!
yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
I realize that it wont be as fast as the 1GHz HD2 that is out now... but i just want to squeeze a bit more out of the device i already have.
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
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If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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Massive +1 to this. I use Simplicity myself most of the time. It's pretty light and fast. (Not to say that LBFAR isn't light or fast. It is both. It's just a little bit too psychadelically colored for me.)
Also, Jackos's ROMs are pretty nice as well, and are generally what I'm running if I am not on Simplicity. They're not built specifically for speed, but they're really well crafted and end up being faster than many other ROMs because of it. They're also rock solid. Just tossing that out there, as Jackos seems to have passed on the opportunity to toot his own horn.
Jackos
I am downloading Jackos right now... if the silly file host didnt limit me to 1 file per hour i would have already had it.. but its going now. I am going to try a couple of differnt ones... as well as over clocking app.
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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yes, if your looking for speed improvement with lack of visual effects this is true
Use the standard ROM and disable HTC sense, it won't get any faster or stable.
Mirror in my sig.
Language
Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
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Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
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you may have downloaded the polish version. Make sure the name of the file has WWE in it and not PLK. Im using Jackos S2 ROM WWE JackFULL v1.7 right now and it is flawless. Also the ROM download includes the Radio 4.49.25.91 and task29. Hope this helps
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If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
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+1 to that
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
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Jackos said:
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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I didn't say that he shouldn't perhaps pick a new ROM that he likes, first. But I also wouldn't call overclocking an "extreme" tool - OCT seems to work very well and my phone is 100% stable, without dynamic overclocking.
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
Jackos said:
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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Jackos said:
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Yeah, totally valid points. I kinda fired that suggestion out off-the-cuff right before class started last night, and very obviously didn't flesh it out appropriately.
Overclocking IS an advanced tool and it does impact the stability of a device. Some handsets tolerate it much better than others, but without first having a good working understanding and feel for both the hardware and the ROM you're using, it can cause no end of frustration trying to figure out what settings work for a setup individually (it's like voodoo magic; all settings very much have been found NOT to work for all people).
The first step should be to find a stable ROM and become familiar with how it works, and then start dabbling carefully only AFTER reading the bejeezus out of the OC thread (seriously, RTFM), should a person still be interested.
That being said, in my experience the settings that work seem to be more hardware-dependent than ROM-dependent. After pretty thorough experimentation to find the settings that work well for my TP2, I've been able to carry those settings across several different ROMs without issue. Of course, that being said, I will fully admit that I believe that no amount of care will cause an overclock setup to be as stable as a non-overclocked setup.
Also, yes, overclocking definitely burns through battery life, just like turbocharging burns through gasoline, and this almost assuredly decreases the useful lifespan of your battery. While I'm less certain about the potential for processor damage, that does very possibly exist as well.
That being said, I'm a reckless jerk and always load OCT as one of the first steps on a new flash. However, I do so after having taken all of the above into consideration. It was hasty and ill-advised to recommend that a new user jump in uninformed. My bad.
I haven't noticed a big difference with overclock, so I decided not to use it... The truth is that the phone is perfectly fine. The biggest culprit in all of the slowness is HTC "Bloatware" Sense. I'm seriously considering paying for SPB mobile shell or something similiar and scrapping Sense completely right now, it just doesn't make up for how demanding it is.
/rant off.
I am open to the possibility that at least some of what I perceive could be a placebo affect, but I definitely feel that there is a difference when my TP2 is overclocked to 787mhz, and I currently feel no compulsion to discontinue doing so.
Thing is, I have to admit that the perception is primarily felt when trying to feed the Sense 2.5/CHT resource devourer combo, and even then the TP2 falls noticeably short. It is painfully obvious that Sense was not meant for the TP2, and OC is really just the slap-patch that allows it to limp along at an arguably acceptable pace.
I've been internally debating about going back to SPB MS myself. The amount of functionality that it has is incredible considering the scant resources it uses. I actually meant to drop it back in this past weekend before I got swept up in other nonsense, as I found a little app/toggle somewhere here on xda that claims to switch between manila and SPB MS. I've got CHT on right now, because it is oh-so-pretty, and I am quite fond of my current layout's aesthetics, but it is a total dog, even on Simplicity.
Hi there,
as my iPhone 3G is getting old and the WLAN seems to be broken now, I was looking for a replacement. I saw that the price for the Galaxy S I9000 dropped massively here in Germany and therefore started to read through the posts here in the forum for the last 2 days. There is just too much information out there to get things sorted out in my mind that fast...
I really loved the iPhone for all those nice apps because I don't really like to use the browser on a small screen that often. There were 3 major things that I didn't like and hope my new phone can do better:
- Performance: It sometimes took quite long to start apps and also some of them were performing poorely.
- Multitasking: I like to have the 3-4 apps that I use most running simultaneously. That is Phone D), Mail (GMail), Skype and Facebook.
- Battery life: My iPhone had problem to make it through the day if I used it too much.
Is there somebody out there who can tell me if the Samsung can handle those things better? Performance-wise I guess there should be no problem, but I don't know about multitasking and battery life.
One more question: I am really interested in learning more about flashing custom ROM's and doing that with the new device, but there is one thing I don't want to do: I don't want to be forced to look for bugfixes all the time. The phone needs to run STABLE. Is that the case? Are there good ROM's out there that really improve the native firmware from point of view of performance AND stability?
I hope this is the right forum to ask those things. If not I apologize and ask the admin to move it to a better suited forum.
The Galaxy I9000 really looks very promising to me, so please don't be to harsh with your criticism, OK?
Mike
Comparing the SGS to the iphone 3, i would say, that the screen is much better, and if your primary apps, are Gmail, Facebook and skype, you are set. Multitasking is almost not existent in the iphone, and i belive battery life is better, and if that is not enough, you can get an additional battery, wich you can't with the iphone. for me, it's a much better device.
Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
Very recommended and match with you..believe me
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
Micha_R said:
Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
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I'm running the stock ROM, rooted of course, and is very stable, i never had any problems. I haven't tried custom rooms, but as far as i understand, they are very stable too. I just prefer to keep my phone as stock as possible...
for the beginning i don't think you need any custom roms if you decide on the SGS, the stock ones are a very long way from any iOS you had in the past
just go to any store and play with it for a while, you'll be amazed about the difference from that old i3g, just as i was, the best choice i have ever made, moving on from iphone3 to this amazing Android device, can't wait to get the money for an sgs2
Seems like I will have to give it a shot.
I was just a bit confused, as one of my friends told me about problems with apps an their stablilty compared to the iPhone. He mentioned e.g. Mobile Navigator.
Well, I will try by myself.
Thanks anyway for your comments.
Mike
Wanted to give CM a shot again, getting the same results as the last time i tried it.
My results with pinnacle 1.2:
Everyday I leave for work at 630, and when i leave at ~3, depending on how much i use the phone, im usually at 70-80 percent.
If i dont use my phone at all, and am in an area of good service. It usually drains at about 1% per hour.
My results with CM7 nightly - stock kernel
I left for work today at 630, have barely used the phone, because i wanted to test its standby drain, and im already at 70 percent (down 30% in 5 hours) The performance is great, but i cant live with battery life like this.
Is there anything i can do to fix this? And please dont tell me to do things like turn off sync, and all that crap, because i bought the ****ing phone in order to do these things. If i wanted a phone that was just a phone, i would have gotten a blackberry or some other regular phone.
If i can do these things in pinnacle and get good battery life, im not going to give them up in cm just to get battery life that is closer to pinnacle.
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Wanted to give CM a shot again, getting the same results as the last time i tried it.
My results with pinnacle 1.2:
Everyday I leave for work at 630, and when i leave at ~3, depending on how much i use the phone, im usually at 70-80 percent.
If i dont use my phone at all, and am in an area of good service. It usually drains at about 1% per hour.
My results with CM7 nightly - stock kernel
I left for work today at 630, have barely used the phone, because i wanted to test its standby drain, and im already at 70 percent (down 30% in 5 hours) The performance is great, but i cant live with battery life like this.
Is there anything i can do to fix this? And please dont tell me to do things like turn off sync, and all that crap, because i bought the ****ing phone in order to do these things. If i wanted a phone that was just a phone, i would have gotten a blackberry or some other regular phone.
If i can do these things in pinnacle and get good battery life, im not going to give them up in cm just to get battery life that is closer to pinnacle.
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Just my opinion, but if battery life was better for you on another rom, and that's important to you, why switch?
If you're really looking at CM7, maybe you should research what modem you had on pinnacle and see if there is a CM'ed version of that one available. That alone could be part of what you're seeing. You could also try a kernel like Glitch and see if OC/UV is something that would help. Also take a look at the battery stats and see which processes are near the top - that's usually an indicator of what areas of the phone you should focus on first.
And, although I understand you're frustrated, please watch the language.
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Just my opinion, but if battery life was better for you on another rom, and that's important to you, why switch?
If you're really looking at CM7, maybe you should research what modem you had on pinnacle and see if there is a CM'ed version of that one available. That alone could be part of what you're seeing. You could also try a kernel like Glitch and see if OC/UV is something that would help. Also take a look at the battery stats and see which processes are near the top - that's usually an indicator of what areas of the phone you should focus on first.
And, although I understand you're frustrated, please watch the language.
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Because as stable and good on battery as it was, i just needed something different. And dont get me wrong, I love CM7. Its awesome besides the battery issue.
I started this thread before i flashed to try to get an idea of what i should use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347952
Someone did make that modem for CM, but from what i hear, the call quality isnt great, and the other person hears a lot of static. Weird because its awesome in Pinnacle.
Going to try glitch, but i wanted to get an idea of how the stock kernel worked before comparing it to glitch. Probably will end up doing a OC/UV, but i wanna at least see if i can get decent battery first before i do that.
Cell standby is accounting for double of what anything else is listed is, which hopefully means that if i get a better modem, then it might fix that.
And didnt mean to come off as an ass, i just hate when people suggest things like that to fix battery issues. Ive read in other threads people suggesting that, and really, why even have a smartphone if your gonna limit it that much? I dont go crazy with any widgets or any apps that would cause that, but turning off sync and things like that are just crazy.
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Because as stable and good on battery as it was, i just needed something different. And dont get me wrong, I love CM7. Its awesome besides the battery issue.
I started this thread before i flashed to try to get an idea of what i should use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347952
Someone did make that modem for CM, but from what i hear, the call quality isnt great, and the other person hears a lot of static. Weird because its awesome in Pinnacle.
Going to try glitch, but i wanted to get an idea of how the stock kernel worked before comparing it to glitch. Probably will end up doing a OC/UV, but i wanna at least see if i can get decent battery first before i do that.
Cell standby is accounting for double of what anything else is listed is, which hopefully means that if i get a better modem, then it might fix that.
And didnt mean to come off as an ass, i just hate when people suggest things like that to fix battery issues. Ive read in other threads people suggesting that, and really, why even have a smartphone if your gonna limit it that much? I dont go crazy with any widgets or any apps that would cause that, but turning off sync and things like that are just crazy.
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Sounds like a good plan. If you haven't checked it out yet, I think that Oxicottin has a list of modems and where they work somewhere in the Dev thread - that might be a place to start your search for modems.
you call quality sucks because CM7 lacks the audience chip support that is native to all I897 ROMS.
So again call quality and great battery life or CM7? You might want to try some of the newest KK2 Rom builds like Luminance or Legendary.
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Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
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Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
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joshoon said:
Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
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