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I'm in IT and plan on most likely getting a Captivate from work for my job. I will be using VPN to connect to my work network (ipsec) and then using a remote desktop app to support people remotly when I am not in front of a computer. (No WiFi at work)
I currently have an iPhone 4 as a personal phone, and I know that I can use the logmein app to connect to computers and use the phone at the same time. I'm assuming I can do this on the captivate also. I was hoping to get the fascinate for the flash, and the fact that Verizon works much better at one of my remote offices, but the fascinate will not be able to do voice + data at the same time right? Also from what I read it has less RAM available.
Does anyone else work in IT and use this phone? What are your experiences with it as far as helping you on the job?
1) ass-u-me : but, in this case, you're correct https://secure.logmein.com/welcome/...oid&campaign=us&destination=/welcome/android/
2) It is likely that the VZW will not be able to do both transmissions at once, based on network type, but since I don't have VZ, or access to a fascinate.. ICSFS
3) Does Verizon really work that much better (actual experience) or is it just what the bars on the phone say... don't trust the bar display as an accurate detail.
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I'm in IT and plan on most likely getting a Captivate from work for my job. I will be using VPN to connect to my work network (ipsec) and then using a remote desktop app to support people remotly when I am not in front of a computer. (No WiFi at work)
I currently have an iPhone 4 as a personal phone, and I know that I can use the logmein app to connect to computers and use the phone at the same time. I'm assuming I can do this on the captivate also. I was hoping to get the fascinate for the flash, and the fact that Verizon works much better at one of my remote offices, but the fascinate will not be able to do voice + data at the same time right? Also from what I read it has less RAM available.
Does anyone else work in IT and use this phone? What are your experiences with it as far as helping you on the job?
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I can give you some incite in the IT category. I maintain multiple networks with the company I work for, and there are a handful of apps on the market place that act as an RDP connection for logging on to servers and whatnot with a FQDN (Which I'm sure would work with the IP, but haven't personally tried it). Of course, if you use listen/forward on certain ports, you can get into those as well. My company uses a program that utilizes an instance of VNC to manage the workstations. I haven't had the time to sit down and try to crack that one yet, but I'm sure it could be done somehow. Our company just made the switch over to Google Apps hosted email so I've never used Exchange with it, but I've heard it works just fine.
I'm thinking here........
Ah yes, we all use Outlook. Calendar invitations import right into Google calendar perfectly. Contacts/email can be synced using Samsung Kies, but only with the default TouchWiz launcher, which I do not prefer. Dropbox works perfectly, yay!
Off the top of my head that's all I can think of. If you have any questions regarding certain areas, please let me know, and I'll give you as much info as I have.
* Oh, and I can confirm, Verizon does not support Voice+Data at the same time. My buddy has a DROID X and he can't even get an email while on a call, much less have an RDP session going.
Here's my IT experience. I personally think the stock email has issues. Everything works fine except for 2 things:
1. Emails are not instant. I thought I had a bad phone, swapped it, and no improvement. With any other phone I had previously owned (iPhone 3g, HTC Fuze, Blackjack II), emails would always arrive at the same time or even before Outlook would get them. Now I get anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minute delay.
2. No NTLM support. Even with an iPhone I can connect to local wireless using Safari and use my domain authentication to access our intranet. I have yet to find a way to negotiate windows authentication on this android. I hear that mozilla is putting out a mobile browser (Fennec I believe) that may support it. Or hopefully 2.2 will add this functionality.
There are clients for RDP and even a couple for VNC. I installed one for VNC but never used it. I used WYSE RDP and love it.
Other than those 2 issues,i love it. I haven't tried setting up the VPN yet (pointless to me without NTLM), but that's all I'm missing.
I wish I had a tab or phone that I could install something like an admin tool pack on that would give me Active Directory tools on the go (besides the obvious RDP to a server). Maybe I'll have to wait for a windows phone 7 tablet........unless someone knows something I don't, I'd loved to hear some good news.
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I am in IT as well and find this to be leaps and bounds better when coming from blackberry 9700
I use remote rdp and logmein ignition. I have direct push with exchange 2007 and the Gal is supported.
One complaint i have is with the email client. If you have rules setup to automatically sort mail without it being read, gl finding it on the phone. I had to turn all rules off and have everything delivered to the inbox.
Other then that i can pretty much do everything i think except dell drac console. But i hardly ever need to use those and if i did, i got bigger problems and should whip out the laptop.
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I'll second what was said here, as a server admin, my phone is indispensable. I use VNC and RDP all the time, leave my home computer signed into VPN(it's a work provided laptop that has port 3389 forwarded) and just RDP into that, and then use it on my work domain. Or use the mobile AP functionality with a netbook running 7 Enterprise w/ VPN. No worrying about hotspot locations.
Exchange works great for me on it, no issues with active sync on E2k7. I do kind of wish we had an OCS 2007 R2 compliant messaging app for it. That's about all I could really use that isn't already available.
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1. Emails are not instant. I thought I had a bad phone, swapped it, and no improvement. With any other phone I had previously owned (iPhone 3g, HTC Fuze, Blackjack II), emails would always arrive at the same time or even before Outlook would get them. Now I get anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minute delay.
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For me, ActiveSync to the Captivate is as fast as my BlackBerry 9700 using BES which is pretty darn fast! Now if only the email client worked with all my sub-folders and allowed me to move emails, etc., I'd be happy.
Search for issues with IMAP and Exchange accounts on the ANDROID platform. I've personally had my IMAP and Exchange email accounts disappear from my phone completely, 3 times in the last month.
This is a know issue across all the Android phones and a problem that is still present in Froyo, kinda disappointing that Google can't get their act together and fix this MAJOR issue.....
There are great email replacement apps out there that solve the problem. The best replacement in my opinion at least is K9. I wouldn't use the version in the Market as it's a few versions old but the latest releases can be found on the googlecode page.
Replacement Apps???
I never needed a replacement app on my BlackBerry or Iphone so I could receive email? That to me is just plain absurd and unacceptable.
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Replacement Apps???
I never needed a replacement app on my BlackBerry or Iphone so I could receive email? That to me is just plain absurd and unacceptable.
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Android is in its infancy. How many version of windows mobile where there before you got activesync direct push access? Did you have exchange support on the original iphone?
Clearly anyone with a brain can see that the android platform is the most open platform today and compared to all others is more like an actual computer then just a phone.
I came from a blackberry and I hate to admit that I was a fanboy for the last 5 years or so... But after going android, the blackberry is the biggest pos and I give RIM 2 years before they become PALM.
The fact that you can run a 3rd party app that can handle your email, your phone or your sms functionality is amazing. However hard developers try to make a one size fits all... it may work for majority, but not all.
I have had zero issue with android and exchange activesync. My accounts don't disappear. Maybe you should take a look at your environment and see what is going on behind the scenes on your mail server or probably at your crappy anti-spam filter. I got emails instantly on my captivate before i get them on my computer, just like my blackberry did.
Yeah, must be my filters causing the account settings to be wiped from my phone on multiple accounts instantaneously....
Come on dude?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4866
Kinda hard to make progress on a platform when your preventing the corporate world from adopting due to serious issues with non Gmail accounts?
I'm a Sr. Sys admin and my experience using the captivate on the job has been great. By connecting to our wpa2 enterprise I've SSH'd into routers and switches using Better Terminal (BTEP SSH Client). It's great not having to drag a laptop and a rollover cable into a server room while working with a switch. I've used the WYSE's beta client which supports RDP, VNC and VM View. I'm also a big fan of Astro file manager which has an add-on for connecting to SMB shares. We've also setup a Rove Mobile Admin server. it's an SSL encrypted publicly accessible server which utilizes an android app from which i can manage everything from BES, to SQL, to Exchange, to AD. Its an expensive license but very very well worth it. and while i do think the stock active sync client is usable i've found that TouchDown offers a much more advanced product complete with meeting invites and GAL support. Again, this is a great phone for for IT work!
Hmmm, I just wonder what is different about the heartbeat to Exchange with Android than it is with every other phone. I agree it could be some mysterious setting that needs adjusted on Exchange, but I'll probably worry about it after we upgrade from 03 to 07.
Doesn't matter......phone rocks.
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i am a sytems and network admin, droid x with and touchdown and logmein has never failed me. wifi teathering with a laptop is great too.
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i love the phone... love the interface... but i do a lot of IM'ing thru yahoo,gtalk, and FBchat and i cant find any app for that...
i thought all phones should have that... and i was surprised the windows7 phone dont have this feature.
so if there is no IM client i can use, i consider this phone FAIL for me. Will return
Yes there is a free IM chat in Windows Phone 7 Market Place. Look for Messenger WP7-2 by Miyowa. It functions very simliar to desktop version of Live Messenger.
But thats only for messenger... I do a lot on yahoo chat and gtalk... Thats why im beginning to hate this phone. I cant use my phone nemore to chat. Im stuck on my laptop for now.
Is there any news on having a universal chat client for this phone?
Yes ... I understand what you are saying. I think those would be developed fairly soon. This is a new Phone OS and the more phones that are sold, the more likely great apps will be developed. That said, some basic items are missing that should have been included in launch.
I wonder if you can get to Google chat through logging into Google account via the browser. I`m going to try that along with Yahoo.
I think the reason for the delay in Chat apps is that WP7 offers no Socket communication at the moment. Everything has to be done with Web Requests. Since most Chatting programs use a TCP or UDP port it may take a while until either someone develops a Web interface for those services or Microsoft update the SDK.
And a quick note... I tried Google Talk via the webrowser. It requires a plugin, but when I tried to download the plug in it says windows phone does not support .exe files.
Yahoo chat was more promising, but Adobe Flash 9.0 needs to be installed. Flash is not supported yet on the phone. It wouldn`t install so web chat through browsers won`t work at this time.
Let`s hope the chat clients are released quickly !
this looks interesting !
http://mim.live.com
I tried it through the phone's IE Browser and it seems to work !
I hope i will be soon... Coz i really need a IM client that works Yahoo and Google
Another interesting note. In my MSN Mobile Canada app, there is also a place to login to IM. Never knew it was there !
hahaha even the zune hd has a messaging app where you can message on Live IM and Facebook chat.
Does Zune HD have Google and Yahoo chat ? If yes, then that would be a good sign Microsoft would bring it over to WP7. Even if there wasn't, I can't imagine that it would be very long before it is available to WP7. They are paying developers big $ so I'm sure there will 1000's more apps and IM clients on the way. What Apple did in 5 years with iPhone, Microsoft will do in half the time if not less.
I really love my HD7 and WP7. Everything that's available just works with nice looking interface.
Like all of you, I need YM, Facebook Chat & GTalk badly. Without these, I could never use my HD7 as my main phone.
I am also enjoying my HD7, it just has to be understood that this OS isn't a month old yet and the development of new apps take time, they cannot just be ported over from previous OSs. I for one like the direction this OS is going....still waiting patiently for a tethering app.
I think people are letting MS off the hook when they say its a new OS that why some thing are missing. The first Pocket pc phone edition that came out in 2000 had MSN messenger. That was 10 (Ten) years ago.
Yes there certainly was a few features missing out of the gate. No doubt Microsoft will fix. Now that they have the phone out in the market we either return it, or find ways to make it work until the app is developed. I know my iphone was missing features when I bought it but Apple finally came around.
As for Yahoo chat, try logging into http://m.yahoo.com/messenger from the browser. It seems to work quite nicely. Again short term work around.
And on the theme of accessing chat clients through mobile browser (two examples provided earlier), here are a number of Web-based (cloud) IM services that are either free or have a small charge for paid service. Seems to be very good solution as many of them integrates all chat clients into one interface (kind of like Fring).
http://im.about.com/od/joiningtheimworld/tp/web-based-chat.htm
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I think people are letting MS off the hook when they say its a new OS that why some thing are missing. The first Pocket pc phone edition that came out in 2000 had MSN messenger. That was 10 (Ten) years ago.
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there is a messenger app, what's the problem?
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there is a messenger app, what's the problem?
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And it was updated over the weekend, a vast improvment over the first version
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And it was updated over the weekend, a vast improvment over the first version
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the point is, it should be a default on every Phone... Instant messaging should be on of the defaults of this new WIN7 OS
this messenger i think is a third party app...
tux-lover said:
the point is, it should be a default on every Phone... Instant messaging should be on of the defaults of this new WIN7 OS
this messenger i think is a third party app...
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apparently microsoft hired this 3rd party to make the official app.
And if its so important, then why do I not know one single person that uses it???
I think it is a cultural difference. In the USA, we tend to stick to text messaging since most of us have unlimited texting on our smartphone plans.
I don't think there is an existing thread on the subject, and I just came across a fantastic tablet-optimized replacement for the native email client. Moxier Mail is far prettier than the native client, has support for Exchange TASK synchronization, allows you to flag items complete (not just "star" or "unstar" them), access your mail folders via their actual tree structure, and turn on synchronization for any number of folders (not just your inbox).
Unfortunately, its widgets are neither re-sizable nor terribly attractive (IMO), but I think that is a small price to pay for the other functionality it adds.
Definitely a good looking app. I am going to give it a try. One big feature I am looking for is the ability to actually turn off the account temporarily. For example, if I setup my work/corp email on there, and I go on vacation, I don't want my xoom beeping all day lol.
But definitely nice find. Thanks!
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Definitely a good looking app. I am going to give it a try. One big feature I am looking for is the ability to actually turn off the account temporarily. For example, if I setup my work/corp email on there, and I go on vacation, I don't want my xoom beeping all day lol.
But definitely nice find. Thanks!
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There's actually a toggle switch in the app (looks like a light switch) that flips auto-synchronization on and off. It's in the bottom-right corner of the main dashboard screen.
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There's actually a toggle switch in the app (looks like a light switch) that flips auto-synchronization on and off. It's in the bottom-right corner of the main dashboard screen.
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Double thumbs up ;D
Just installed it, going to give it a go. I also just noticed that it works for Phones as well. I am going to give it a shot on my EVO. (Not a fan of Touchdown). So this could be a nice alternative.
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Double thumbs up ;D
Just installed it, going to give it a go. I also just noticed that it works for Phones as well. I am going to give it a shot on my EVO. (Not a fan of Touchdown). So this could be a nice alternative.
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I actually use Enhanced Email on my phone. It is a slightly tweaked version of the native client that gives me most of the above features in a clean and simple interface. (Touchdown is just SO ugly.) Let me know how Moxier looks... I might switch if it transitions well from the tablet to the phone.
Thanks. I will try this out.
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I actually use Enhanced Email on my phone. It is a slightly tweaked version of the native client that gives me most of the above features in a clean and simple interface. (Touchdown is just SO ugly.) Let me know how Moxier looks... I might switch if it transitions well from the tablet to the phone.
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I use EE too. Mostly because the server security protocols / device admin rights can be tweaked by user. The remote wipe security option is optional on EE. Trying Moxier today and the interface is pretty cool and it seems to avoid defaulting Exchange admin rights to wipe device. Anyone with knowledge or skills about this able to confirm this?
Fyi: Decent widgets.
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It's a bloody beautiful app, no two ways about it. Highly recommended. Tried everything, ended up buying this one. For tasks support mostly. Veruy polished and stable. Can turn emails to tasks and calendar. Nice widgets.
I almost purchased Moxier Mail Tablet version until I discovered that there's an issue with attachments download in the current version. Link to the support thread for this issue below :
http://support.moxier.com/entries/20186321
I noticed there is no RSA security support. Is there any word if support is coming? My wife's work is predominantly email based, and she would love this for work, but they're RSA secured.
I've got another one for you guys- Kaiten Mail - It's like K9 reall but slightly adapted and works brilliantly with gmail-type interface
Moxier (tablet) downloads attachments without any problem for me, from Hotmail to 1 device and Exchange to another. Does it nicely also, since the interface is pretty intuitive.
Confirmed...no issues downloading, opening/reading, and sending attachments with Exchange.
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Can someone tell me how it works with folders for exchange account.
I have loads of folders for server side automatic rules and moving. My problem is I have a few sub sub folders with the same name. The every all so far has issues with this. The I want to see how many unread emails per folder rather than just unread.
Also there seems to be a couple of versions which one is the best?
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I am wondering if anyone is using their Nook for business. I found a great case that is very professional looking and now using it for work. I keep my pro articles and docs I need to read/review in meetings on it. I just send them up via dropbox from my computer and then download them. I rooted my nook so I could use Kindle and Nook books - have lots of business book on Kindle previously.
I was using productivity apps on my phone but now use them on nook as the screen is better. The following apps are used daily: Astrid, Pure Messenger, gmail, email for exchange, reading apps including Kindle, Nook and Zinio. I also use Pulse and Audible. I am also using ThinkingSpace as my mindmapping software - I have it synced with Mind Meister.
The only downside is not having 3g on the Nook.
What or how are others using Nook for work?
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I am wondering if anyone is using their Nook for business. I found a great case that is very professional looking and now using it for work. I keep my pro articles and docs I need to read/review in meetings on it. I just send them up via dropbox from my computer and then download them. I rooted my nook so I could use Kindle and Nook books - have lots of business book on Kindle previously.
I was using productivity apps on my phone but now use them on nook as the screen is better. The following apps are used daily: Astrid, Pure Messenger, gmail, email for exchange, reading apps including Kindle, Nook and Zinio. I also use Pulse and Audible. I am also using ThinkingSpace as my mindmapping software - I have it synced with Mind Meister.
The only downside is not having 3g on the Nook.
What or how are others using Nook for work?
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I use mine a bit, with a few device caveats, and a few work-releated caveats..
We use Google Apps at work, although it's behind a Single Sign On so I can't directly sync against it but I copy events to my personal calendar, which I can sync, so all good there So I use several apps to keep up to date on my 3-4 meetings a day, primarily Widget Locker with Android Agenda Widget in it so I can quickly glance at where I'm going next. Touch Calendar is great to quickly see what's going on this week.
I have my work GMail up in Dolphin HD all of the time, works pretty good although Dolphin itself has the "scroll up/sideways" to do different things utility and sometimes I wind up doing that instead of something I intended to do in GMail itself, but it's not a big deal.
I use SpringPad to track my todo's and my 'waiting for's and I primarily input them on the computer but I can look at them, or input them, at any time using the SpringPad app.
I also use DropBox for some documents, but most of what I look at is deemed confidential so I have to be careful there. GPG/APG can help there to encrypt files.
I use EzPDF and Documents to Go to review documents, which works out pretty well in most cases. I have a pad of paper and the tablet and I can go anywhere if I need to review something. I share an office and my officemate is quiet, but it's nice to be able to go out to the courtyard at work and sit outside and do work.
For some reasons I can get into Google Talk directly, even though I can't sync my overall Google account from the tablet directly, so I use that for work IM'ing when I'm mobile.
There's many times I have to go to a lab in order to sit down with some hardware I need to work with and instead of dragging out my laptop along with me I just keep up to date on email and work IM's on the tablet.
The couple of Android caveats I have are poor WPA2 Enterprise support, but that at least can be worked around using the Wifi Advanced Config Editor in the market, which is brilliant and works great.
The other, which is more difficult to work around, is no global proxy support. At work I can't do anything externally, INCLUDING Gmail, without going through a proxy. To work around this I have set up a secure AP in my office connected to a CentOS box which transparently proxies me through the work proxies. Opera, and maybe a few other browswers, can also set up a proxy but I'd have to set/unset it all of the time.
If work would allow us to access GMail without the proxy, that'd help out a lot there. But it doesn't help the next issue... Syncing my Google Account I can't do at work at all; can't proxy that. I have to tether to the phone in order to do that, which sucks.. So if I have a meeting that's happened today or a change today, I usually wind up pulling out the phone to look instead of the tablet.
I have tried to use my nook in various work related occasions, but it always seems to fit in less smoothly than its Apple counterpart.
The people that I work with that use iPads usually get that instant credibility that takes some effort to justify when using the Nook. Almost as if most people assume it to be some sort of gaming device or something less capable of getting things done. Like op I have been looking for a case/cover that can help to achieve a more professional look to help fight this stigma.
When I was working in Retail, I would often use my Nook to look up items online that were not available in store as our network did not allow any connections to the web. It has probably paid for itself in the commissions it got from using this method.
These are some great tips. I forgot to mention that I use Evernote. Like Springpad it is great for saving pages and articles into organized notebooks. Very handy.
Does anyone use their phone as a mobile hotspot to wirelessly tether the nook when no other wifi is available? I am not sure how to do all that "proxy" stuff but I will do some research on it.
Are you running the stock os or a rom? I just got my Nook Friday for work use instead of a 10 tablet.
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i would LOVE to use my nook, especially in meetings. but as an architect, there is not a revit/navisworks/bim program. there is the cad program, but i would rather use the pdf's for the project, unless i need an 'on the fly measurement', then the dwg would be helpful. though i havent attempted to access the network at the office yet, since the wifi is outside the firewall.
I can't get my Nook on a private network the way other people are able to get their iPads. The current problem is the proxy servers - (I work for a very large mulitnational with a 2-letter abriviation..)
I miss a camera
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Are you running the stock os or a rom? I just got my Nook Friday for work use instead of a 10 tablet.
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with the rooted ROM. You cent get all the marke apps listed above doing so. Some are available but not all.
An app to try for those on Microsoft Corporate Exchanges using Microsoft Communicator is the AndrOCS Beta.
It is beta but worked (but did FC once on me) when my laptop was getting rebuilt for Windows 7.
IM is very useful for internal communications.
I mainly use my Nook for reading/reference only at the moment (although have calendar, and todo). SpringPad has also been very useful as a reference store for me as well.
Thanks. I rooted today, but I am having trouble with the Market. I am reading thought the root posting now. Thanks again.
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I've had some success using it at work (and at home for work). In addition to the usual; evernote, k-9, gmail, imo for messaging, the one I've found surprisingly useful is ConnectBot, an SSH client, and androidVNC. I'll use these two to connect to clusters or my main desktop and start / stop / check on jobs. I will admit, VNC on the nook is a bit of a pain (I don't have a keyboard or mouse), but for starting analysis programs that are already written it's passable.
My current dream is a method of syncing the output to the projector, so I can give quick update presentations on the nook.
Also, thanks for the tips on the PDF readers, I may get that EzPDF, I've been looking for one that does annotations well.
Phone rooted, I swear I read something a bit back about ripping the encryption settings out of the phone so that I can connect to an exchange server without encryption/pin lock, but I cannot for the life of me google it back up. I like the stock email client and would prefer to continue using it, and the older email client I installed refuses to work with the exchange server. Aaaaand I like the little email widgets.
Can anyone point me in the right direction here towards what I need to do to set up my exchange account without it enforcing encryption/pinlock/camera disabling? It's my school's account, and there IT guy simply told me they aren't going to disable it on their side.
And besides free wifi tether, if there is anything else cool we can do once this phone is rooted, that'd be nice to know, too.
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And besides free wifi tether, if there is anything else cool we can do once this phone is rooted, that'd be nice to know, too.
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AdFree is pretty sweet...blocks most ads (won't block audio ads in Pandora, though)
Yeah, adfree is pretty awesome. Titanium sounds neat, too, but I'm a little skittish about freezing anything that's needed to run the phone, and so far it's impossible to slow this thing down anyhow, but it may be useful. I can't seem to find an overclocking app that's tailored to this phone, but my understanding is that motomizer works and the internals are basically the droid RAZR. Tinkerin' with that a bit.
I found one thing regarding the email client and it's lock downs, but it suggested installing an older email client which apparently doesn't have a widget, and a fix involving adding and removing the account and then removing security settings, but neither of these worked.
siiiiigh. It's my schools email, which is really frustrating. I don't understand why they'd have those securities in place at all.
The reason that schools have hardcore security in place is because the teachers and administrators use the came e-mail client... it has to be secured in order to protect sensitive info.