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Okay, I have tried almost all of the shells that I can find, Vista cube, pointui, and I bought Spb mobile shell, and I am at wits end. I own what I feel to be one of the best phones on the market. I am sure that some of you would agree. BUT... The os sucks. We all have our prefrences, and we like the fact that we can reconfigure our phones to meet our needs or wants. Well let me share one of my wants. I want android and the ability to change and add programs at will. Thats it, simple. I think thier use of the opera browser is just the icing on the cake.. So any suggestions?
anyone???
anyone know if it is possible to put android on the wing?
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anyone???
anyone know if it is possible to put android on the wing?
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Hi, this is forum for WINGS (S730). Wing is different phone ...
btw. If u want info about Android look at
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code.google.com/android
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ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice
Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing
ASK768 said:
Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing
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Ya it's a very nice idea. I will add roadmap very soon.
BigDaemon said:
ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice
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Give me some time i will fill all the details in first post.
Nice to see someone is still working on this. I have been following the development since it was started, and would really like to help. However my programming skills are litterally non-existent, so probably not much I can do apart from cheeering you on? beta testing? let me know..
Cheers
Finally,
Some people like myself too, were hoping in that. A full working version of android on the touch HD...Good luck...and post your results...we would be really pleased to test...
tuxhero - Your the man
Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!
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Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
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Why is Windows not a good OS? I'm not a fan at all, but such statements are simply not true. Furthermore you should consider that Windows has nothing to do with Windows Mobile ...
ataide26 said:
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
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Mine isn't crashing that often, isn't slow and I haven't noticed any bug so far.
Just to make it clear: I don't want to hamper the development. In fact I would love to see an alternative to Windows Mobile, but saying things like above aren't the right motivation!
Windows Mobile - even in 6.5 version is good couple years behind functionality of Android or Iphone OS. It was build for PDAs or Pocket PC and it was working perfectly fine for those devices.
BUT for HTC Blackstone - it is not suitable, yes TouchFlo is making this beautiful phone usable, but its only thanks to it one can appreciate it's functionality.
That is why I would LOVE to see Android working on Blackstone.
So thank you for trying. I will be among the first people that will test it whenever you will make it available. [I am just a phone user/gadget lover - so can't help more than that]
ataide26 said:
Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!
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I don't think that WM is a bad OS.
Ok, the shipped ROM of my HD was... omg it was horrible.
But when I look at the actually cooked ROMs, they are very fast and stable.
There smoothnes is almost as good as the Iphone's one.
I think all OS's has there positive and negative aspects:
WM is not the userfriendliest, but fully customizeable!
Iphone OS is very userfriendly, but its customizeable like a Gameboy (Customizeable don't means installing different programms)
Android is an alternative to both OS. Userfriendly and customizeable. So if anyone isn't that happy with WM, Android is an good alternative.
I would support this project with all I'm able to.
Greets
Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
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Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
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Some kind of sum up would be nice, I guess its too hard to get involved by reading the whole "old" thread ...
Funny
I bet this thread is going to nowhere. Mr. starter will disappear in a day or two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3938291&postcount=18 - good excuse
I'm sorry, of course, for bringing that to the public.
Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
ddhb said:
Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
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It is possible but you don't need to extract it we already had source code so we can compile it. But the problem is blackstone is not designed to run Android
that changes lot of things. Now our task is to find what we need to change n change it.
So you said that you are using the android-msm and not the htc-msn kernel for now.
What kernel did xmoo and obus(?? not sure about the name ^^) use? The htc-msm?
Is the android kernel as good as working as the version from obus/xmoo, or is it working better in the moment?
Sry for my english *g*
Hi,
I was looking for this topic on google, and later on Xda forum but I found nothing. From many years I was working with Windows Mobile, and now my friend asked me to instal Windows on his Htc Dream and I was totaly schocked, when I realise that nobody wanted to change Android to Windows Mobile.
Is there any way to do it? Or can you give me any links to [ROM] Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 for Htc Dream
Thanks for help!
use the search function its been asked before, as far as i remember, no one cares to make a port because why put a bad OS on a phone with a good OS?
It might be possible to port it from the Leo(Not out yet) since it has a capacitive screen. But we would still have to fix the rom to fit the screen size and the drivers and such so it might not even come.
I am glad someone else has posted this, last week i was looking for some info on this and noticed all of the WinMo threads were closed.
I am hoping that WinMo makes it to the G1, i plan on buying a Cliq when they are released so the G1 is going to be a play/spare phone and it would be cool to play around with Winmo 6.5 and whatnot. I know a lot of people said WinMo sucks, but on decent hardware like the G1 it should be better.
Also as i was looking around dba.net i noticed a lot of the new HTC WinMo phones have the same chipset, CPU and whatnot. Hopefully this will make porting it a lot easier for some cooks and we will see WinMo on the Dream hardware sometime in the near future =)
While we're at it why don't we put the iphone os on the G1 too.
Maybe not iPhone software, I think Symbian S60 is better
But let's back, is there anyone on the earth who has already cooked this rom or it's only hoping that after a lot of time there will be a person, who will answer on our requests and make rom for g1??
Heniek_W said:
Maybe not iPhone software, I think Symbian S60 is better
But let's back, is there anyone on the earth who has already cooked this rom or it's only hoping that after a lot of time there will be a person, who will answer on our requests and make rom for g1??
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Well I know you couldn't tell but I was being sarcastic with the iphone os. And people got the G1 to have android and not windows mobile. I doubt anyone will ever build a windows mobile rom for the g1. So don't hold your breath.
supremeteam256 said:
While we're at it why don't we put the iphone os on the G1 too.
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/cry
I really liked that supreme guy
/cry
but now i gotsta cut em from the will
/cry
he's been spending too much time with codani
P.S. I cooked my own WM6.1 ROM when I had a Kaiser. Now that I have a G1 I have absolutely no interest is seeing WM again.
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he's been spending too much time with codani
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I've been doin my best to bash him for it. But I think he finally got frustrated enought. Think he's waitin on the sholes now.
hehe I know, I really hope HTC announces a successor to the G1 soon cause I really don't like moto.
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hehe I know, I really hope HTC announces a successor to the G1 soon cause I really don't like moto.
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Yessir me too. Plus you just won't have the support for moto like you do with htc.
You're shocked that nobody would want to put GARBAGE in place of GOLD?
If you want GARBAGE, why buy a PREMIUM SMARTPHONE?
Heniek_W said:
Hi,
I was looking for this topic on google, and later on Xda forum but I found nothing. From many years I was working with Windows Mobile, and now my friend asked me to instal Windows on his Htc Dream and I was totaly schocked, when I realise that nobody wanted to change Android to Windows Mobile.
Is there any way to do it? Or can you give me any links to [ROM] Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 for Htc Dream
Thanks for help!
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A swear there's a thread like this every week. If only we could implement a function in the dream forum to disallow thread titles with windows and mobile in them
AdrianK said:
A swear there's a thread like this every week. If only we could implement a function in the dream forum to disallow thread titles with windows and mobile in them
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I second that motion.
3rded
It would be too hard anyway. I doubt the experienced devs for android are gonna spend time rewritting the drivers and going all out of their way for winmo. They would probably much rather work on making their android roms better
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Well I know you couldn't tell but I was being sarcastic with the iphone os. And people got the G1 to have android and not windows mobile. I doubt anyone will ever build a windows mobile rom for the g1. So don't hold your breath.
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OK, but when they pass case that Android isn't the best OS they could have, they want to change it for another OS, exactly for Windows Mobile. And now they havn't any possibility to do it.
Maybe for some of them Android is the BEST OS, but not for all.
So topic has ended. Ok, I see that all of you affirm Android is the best thing which was made for this smartphone.
But I will be thankful, when someone cooks Windows Rom for G1.
the g1 is only one of the army of android phones .. the statements you made is said by members who have not really fully experienced android , I loved w_mobile over the iphone , but then android came along , so i filed for a divorce ,, now I fully support android .,..,
android= most complete, refined mobile os. period. and i have an iphone too. it sucks. least flexible mobile os ever. even with jailbreak
only thing good about it is that there's a crapload of fart apps.
I wouldn't say that Android is complete..... there are still a lot of things to be implemented.
However, Android is handsdown the best MobileOS thanks to the 3rd party community
Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
rbrownvalid said:
Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
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Developers/programmers have been trying to figure out how to dual boot the HD7 (like the HD2) since it came out. The main problem seems to be how WP7 is compiled .NET and C#. WP7 securitys still aren't fully unlocked.
Take a look at the Project Haret thread, they seem to be making some progress at it and if you have the know how, maybe you can contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377
xdrc45 said:
Developers/programmers have been trying to figure out how to dual boot the HD7 (like the HD2) since it came out. The main problem seems to be how WP7 is compiled .NET and C#. WP7 securitys still aren't fully unlocked.
Take a look at the Project Haret thread, they seem to be making some progress at it and if you have the know how, maybe you can contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377
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Thanks for the heads up, appreciate the reply, btw where is the thanks button? sorry this is my second post here. I started to do some research into it. I believe the answer is in the coredll.dll file which may be stating the obvious. I think the way to go about accessing this or at least what I am going to try is an attempt to gain root access with my device tethered to my comp from terminal.
rbrownvalid said:
Thanks for the heads up, appreciate the reply, btw where is the thanks button? sorry this is my second post here. I started to do some research into it. I believe the answer is in the coredll.dll file which may be stating the obvious. I think the way to go about accessing this or at least what I am going to try is an attempt to gain root access with my device tethered to my comp from terminal.
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Your welcome! I've read through the whole Project Haret thread and there is alot of information, (some way to complicated for me) trial and error and it looks like as of recent there has been some good progress towards getting Haret to perform and (hopefully) run kernel mode and actually boot the kernel. You might be right, give it a shot or maybe put it on the thread and see what kind of feed back you get on it!
Is your device unlocked yet so that you can gain access to it and try it out?
Personally I would love to see the HD7 dual boot WP7 and Android. Don't get me wrong... I thoroughly enjoy WP7 and love my HD7it's very smooth, fast, stable and not once has it crashed on me. I believe that it would bring a longer life experience to the device and make it that much more versatile, especially since we're nearing the end of official support.
The thanks button should be there now, under the posts.
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Your welcome! I've read through the whole Project Haret thread and there is alot of information, (some way to complicated for me) trial and error and it looks like as of recent there has been some good progress towards getting Haret to perform and (hopefully) run kernel mode and actually boot the kernel. You might be right, give it a shot or maybe put it on the thread and see what kind of feed back you get on it!
Is your device unlocked yet so that you can gain access to it and try it out?
Personally I would love to see the HD7 dual boot WP7 and Android. Don't get me wrong... I thoroughly enjoy WP7 and love my HD7it's very smooth, fast, stable and not once has it crashed on me. I believe that it would bring a longer life experience to the device and make it that much more versatile, especially since we're nearing the end of official support.
The thanks button should be there now, under the posts.
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Ok so I realize I might sound like an idiot considering everything I said can be found within the haret documentation. I originally read something found on google with inaccurate information after you told me about the project, come to find out the information I read was in no way affiliated with the the actual project haha. Forgive my stupidy, I began to read and follow along the documaton for it at htc-linux.org, the only thing I am having issue with is obtaining haretconsole to explore the device. The link on the documentation I believe no longer exists, and I can't find a source anywhere! This is pretty good stuff though thanks for linking me up with it! Have you installed the development tools or haretconsole on a linux OS by chance? I was successful with the developement tools, just need to figure out this haretconsole problem. BTW which desktop OS do you prefer?
Sadly I can't tell if my device is unlocked yet haha. I work at a university doing LAN Administration currently and used my .edu e-mail to register as a developer. I then registered my device but don't see a single difference or maybe I just am doing something wrong. How do you suggest going about that(unlocking it that is, I don't care about it being official, just figured official would be easlier)? Also for the iPhone there is a desktop application which allows you to access the filesystem called iFunBox, is there anything similar for the wp7?
I would just love android lol, I like the HTC HD7 and have always been a fan of HTC products, It definately is pretty smooth and compared to my previous device a 3gs it's lightening fast! 3g isn't supported with the 3gs on t-mobile either. My biggest issue with wp7 is the fact it doesn't do anything I want to be done in a device, I use my mobile browser ALOT and I have never seen a browser period with this many bugs, I installed safari but it's not even the same lol! For the most part I strongly strongly dislike anything related to microsoft, but unfortunately I have to work with the windows platform quite often because of my job. There just such a dirty/shady/grimmy company period, I saw a commercial yesterday advertising bing where they claimed 2 out of three people choose bing over google in a blind study............how can they advertise that when they stole googles code! lol. Also it was a pretty dirty business move of microsoft to do what your talking about with the wp8. They claim there going to continue support on 7 but we both know they all say that and do put the effort towards the legacy system for a short period of time before cutting it. Screwing Nokia out of major growth potential within the U.S. while going back on the promise made to them regarding free upgrades to 8 for 7 devices. I think they feel like there invincible just because they currently run the desktop OS market share. I think their will likely be a major change in the preferred OS within the next 10 years, just because I work in an 30,000 user enterprise that refuses to upgrade their liscensing with microsoft because of windows 8's inability to meet our needs.
Sorry if this message way to long haha
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Ok so I realize I might sound like an idiot considering everything I said can be found within the haret documentation. I originally read something found on google with inaccurate information after you told me about the project, come to find out the information I read was in no way affiliated with the the actual project haha. Forgive my stupidy, I began to read and follow along the documaton for it at htc-linux.org, the only thing I am having issue with is obtaining haretconsole to explore the device. The link on the documentation I believe no longer exists, and I can't find a source anywhere! This is pretty good stuff though thanks for linking me up with it! Have you installed the development tools or haretconsole on a linux OS by chance? I was successful with the developement tools, just need to figure out this haretconsole problem. BTW which desktop OS do you prefer?
Sadly I can't tell if my device is unlocked yet haha. I work at a university doing LAN Administration currently and used my .edu e-mail to register as a developer. I then registered my device but don't see a single difference or maybe I just am doing something wrong. How do you suggest going about that(unlocking it that is, I don't care about it being official, just figured official would be easlier)? Also for the iPhone there is a desktop application which allows you to access the filesystem called iFunBox, is there anything similar for the wp7?
I would just love android lol, I like the HTC HD7 and have always been a fan of HTC products, It definately is pretty smooth and compared to my previous device a 3gs it's lightening fast! 3g isn't supported with the 3gs on t-mobile either. My biggest issue with wp7 is the fact it doesn't do anything I want to be done in a device, I use my mobile browser ALOT and I have never seen a browser period with this many bugs, I installed safari but it's not even the same lol! For the most part I strongly strongly dislike anything related to microsoft, but unfortunately I have to work with the windows platform quite often because of my job. There just such a dirty/shady/grimmy company period, I saw a commercial yesterday advertising bing where they claimed 2 out of three people choose bing over google in a blind study............how can they advertise that when they stole googles code! lol. Also it was a pretty dirty business move of microsoft to do what your talking about with the wp8. They claim there going to continue support on 7 but we both know they all say that and do put the effort towards the legacy system for a short period of time before cutting it. Screwing Nokia out of major growth potential within the U.S. while going back on the promise made to them regarding free upgrades to 8 for 7 devices. I think they feel like there invincible just because they currently run the desktop OS market share. I think their will likely be a major change in the preferred OS within the next 10 years, just because I work in an 30,000 user enterprise that refuses to upgrade their liscensing with microsoft because of windows 8's inability to meet our needs.
Sorry if this message way to long haha
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Sorry its taken me so long to get back with you... Been crazy busy!
Unfortunetly I only have Windows OS, PC and Laptop. Funny enough though, I just got my laptop back from the shop a couple weeks ago and I had to have the harddrive replaced. Last week my PC got the BSOD (blue screen of death) and I had to completly wipe and restore it.
My next computer will be a Linux OS forsure. I wish I had one currently to install Haret and play around with it!
The student registration is limited and you can only sideload a max of 3 unasigned apps. You would be better off to fully unlock your device and install a custom rom, this will give you more options to sideload as many unasighned apps as you want in the form of XAP's through IE. Access to the registry/file system and to apply hack and tweaks. you can then familurize yourself with the OS and file system.
I can help walk you through the unlock process, it's pretty easy.
Go to settings, about, more info. post back all the information from that screen. Enter your device into bootloader mode - Power device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button, this will bring you into BL mode a tri-colored screen. Post back the information from that screen also.We can go from there. The proccess to unlock it basicially is to downgrade the SPL to 3.xxx or lower to install RSPL/HSPL wich will allow flashing of a custom rom.
My IE works excellent. It might be due to what build version that your device is running on. Either way once we get it unlocked there's custom roms running on Tango 8779 build with nice features and the device runs buttery smooth. there's also more mobile browsers available to install once it's unlocked, Opera Mobile,UC browser and a bunch more. There's all kinds of XAP's you can install to cusromize the device and enhance the user experience.
Totaly agree with you on the Android development for WP7 and the above statement regarding MS
Check out this link for Haret -
http://www.pedersen-web.com/linuxhandheld/index.php?h=2&p=11
Good Luck
I can't wait to install android to my HD7
rbrownvalid said:
Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
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i've htc hd7
i want to install android OS on it please help me
android
no run
Hey, I'm mostly interested in learning to run phones without Android and my PC without Windows. Trying to Degoogle and prevent the already rich from selling data to make money from the already poor.
dink arnold said:
Hey, I'm mostly interested in learning to run phones without Android and my PC without Windows. Trying to Degoogle and prevent the already rich from selling data to make money from the already poor.
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