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WHO DID THIS??? and why isnt it here!!?
probably doesnt belong in dev section but this needs attention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uviopU8Ve-Y
wtf! I just got my nook color and was expecting to wait quite a while for a custom rom, but damn things are moving fast. Who did that? How? And why does no one here know about it?
Whoa. We have seen the future of the NC...and it shines! Now, how to get whoever did this on this board...
bobdude5 said:
WHO DID THIS??? and why isnt it here!!?
probably doesnt belong in dev section but this needs attention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uviopU8Ve-Y
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Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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Ok, so I guess this doesn't apply to you then, right?
I, on the other hand, am very excited. Hopefully we can get the details of this soon. There was no proof that the android marketplace was functioning in the froyo build though, but I hope it is.
dark79 said:
Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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It's a step in a nice direction. Get the stock OS up and running and then figure out what's needed to perform upgrades to the Nook platform itself. If it is possible to upgrade the unit to Froyo that means that Bluetooth Keyboards should work and a number of other things. I would prefer not to lose the actual Nook look/feel of the device but I'm not going to ignore what is overall a positive step forward for the evolution of this device.
I'm really hoping the details on the WiFi controller chip were accurate, because the touch keyboard on this thing is REALLY getting annoying.
deeoh said:
Ok, so I guess this doesn't apply to you then, right?
I, on the other hand, am very excited. Hopefully we can get the details of this soon. There was no proof that the android marketplace was functioning in the froyo build though, but I hope it is.
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No, it still applies to me.
The BNN apps run over android 2.1. My point is that I'm hoping someone can pull the BNN apps to work OVER froyo so that I can still have the best of both worlds.
Shouldn't be too hard. After all, BNN already said they're releasing a froyo update early next year (rumors being January).
one question that comes to my mind that doesnt come up in the video, since the nook only has like 4 hardware buttons how do you control your back, home and menu controls? unless you Remap the volume buttons to do it
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one question that comes to my mind that doesnt come up in the video, since the nook only has like 4 hardware buttons how do you control your back, home and menu controls? unless you Remap the volume buttons to do it
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That's why you would use the SoftKeys APK that someone else on here has worked so diligently on. That way, the bottom bar of the nook becomes like a perma-softkey bar, that way you can pick between using the volume keys or the softkeys.
Anybody managed to talk to the guy who put up the video? Would love to know how he got that running, especially with Flash 10.1 on 2.2
EDIT: Here's the Softkey.APK and the thread I'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860153&page=2
It's too bad that whomever did this didn't focus their camera very well.
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It's too bad that whomever did this didn't focus their camera very well.
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Agreed - you can only barely make out the 2.2.1. Wonder if it's real or a fake...
I saw some benchmarks of 2.1 vs 2.2 measured using linpack. 2.1 was about 7 while 2.2 was 30-40.
Will the nook enjoy this speed increase? Meaning because the nook is a little more lacking hardware wise, I'm wondering if this speed boost would be more noticeable on the nook (e..g smoothing scrolling, more responsive, etc)
Or is the graphics chip more responsible for these things?
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I saw some benchmarks of 2.1 vs 2.2 measured using linpack. 2.1 was about 7 while 2.2 was 30-40.
Will the nook enjoy this speed increase? Meaning because the nook is a little more lacking hardware wise, I'm wondering if this speed boost would be more noticeable on the nook (e..g smoothing scrolling, more responsive, etc)
Or is the graphics chip more responsible for these things?
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The nook's hardware is actually quite capable and with a proper clean froyo build, it should fly. The stock B&N build is garbage as far as optimizations and performance go. We have a cortex A8 (TI OMAP 3621) with a powerVR SGX 530, that should be plenty to have a nice android experience.
I'm sure linpack scores will improve with 2.2, but it seems snapdragon based devices get the best gains on linpack from going 2.1 to 2.2.
Good to hear it's a capable piece of hardware.
This will be my first android device so I'll read more about rooting etc. But once say a froyo 2.2 is out, can you retain the b&n software somehow, or is it one or the other?
I've heard some of the apps/functionality it provides is good. I'm more interested in this as a cheap first tablet so with a choice for one or the other, I'd wipe it and put froyo on it, but I was curious if even their apps can be brought over, if a side by side (dual boot?) install isn't possible. Or maybe off the sd card...
Off topic, but is there anything to manage multiple users? I can see my gf wanting to use it, and I'd rather not have her bookmarks files etc in mine.
I get the vibe all these devices are made for one user, but I've read posts about say a parent wanting to let their kid play with the device without concern they'd change anything.
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Good to hear it's a capable piece of hardware.
This will be my first android device so I'll read more about rooting etc. But once say a froyo 2.2 is out, can you retain the b&n software somehow, or is it one or the other?
I've heard some of the apps/functionality it provides is good. I'm more interested in this as a cheap first tablet so with a choice for one or the other, I'd wipe it and put froyo on it, but I was curious if even their apps can be brought over, if a side by side (dual boot?) install isn't possible. Or maybe off the sd card...
Off topic, but is there anything to manage multiple users? I can see my gf wanting to use it, and I'd rather not have her bookmarks files etc in mine.
I get the vibe all these devices are made for one user, but I've read posts about say a parent wanting to let their kid play with the device without concern they'd change anything.
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if the root method is the same as we have done before, yes we will be able to do it, basically a custom recovery will be created which will allow nand (internal memory) to be backedup and restored
yea, the stock B&N software is pretty poorly optimized but it's got good management and reading features (shelves, different colors and margin settings, social networking for quotes etc...), much better than the Nook app on Android and most other reader apps, the store works pretty well and it does B&N magazines and kid books. Some of the non-readers out there might not notice the difference, but it's there.
sadly i dont think B&N understand the idea of optimization i got almost twice the performance on my original nook last year just by optimizing the .apks with zipalign and optiPNG havnt had a chance to test it on the NC because well im lazy and too busy actually using it
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Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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Me too, I use it as a reader and media player next.
But I'm paying close attention to what this device can do...
Came across a funny older article on a fruit based website about the nook color when it first came out. After reading it i couldnt help but chuckle.
This was the best part of it,
But unlike forthcoming Android tablets like the Samsung Galaxy Tab, this device is going to be locked down and will only be able to run a limited number of B&N-approved apps such as Pandora and Lonely Planet.
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lol
Its a good read for a laugh.
I know that my nook color countinues to amaze me with more and more functionality everyday.
Its amazing what xda devs can accomplish. Take something and make it do something it was never meant to do and do it better than its competition.
That article is an unfortunate example of what a lot of tech journalists are doing these days. Hastily research a new product, then clip together a bunch of other coverage and bang out an article. By demonstrating his technical incompetence, sure he's got egg on his face now after the fact, however he also represents a large (the majority) percentage of B&N's customer base. The average purchaser would says "rooting what now?".
Amazingly, the NC has proven wildly popular and B&N's top selling item EVER, so obviously even with the limitations the author describes it's trouncing the competition. For those of use who know about ADB and scripts/img files, hey it's even better. Bought one for myself, then for my Dad (50's, tech savvy still). I rooted it, installed xeam and some apps then wrapped it back up and bang, best Christmas present ever!)
I've had a book 3g and then the NC which i rooted. Bottom line it rocks!!!!
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I cannot wait for a fully functional froyo rom for the internal memory that will make this a true tablet
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I cannot wait for a fully functional froyo rom for the internal memory that will make this a true tablet
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Forgot Froyo. Gingerbread CM7. It's going to be B-E-A-UTIFUL
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Forgot Froyo. Gingerbread CM7. It's going to be B-E-A-UTIFUL
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Name 5 things that Gingerbread does better than Froyo....
Anywho, I too look forward to a tablet-friendly custom ROM.. I still really like the status bar on the bottom of the screen, but the stupid B&N shortcut thing gets on my nerves when I'm typing.
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Name 5 things that Gingerbread does better than Froyo....
Anywho, I too look forward to a tablet-friendly custom ROM.. I still really like the status bar on the bottom of the screen, but the stupid B&N shortcut thing gets on my nerves when I'm typing.
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You mean aside from the better Dalvik VM, better battery management, improved UI, improved hardware capabilities (improved camera handling, gyroscope, NFC), improved game API, improved audio API, new media (audio/video) support, and a new linux base kernel? I guess if you don't count those, you still have the new/updated core libraries, updated bluetooth stack, improved text selection, built-in VOIP, and of course, the better keyboard...
Seriously, i mean, really seriously, why would ANYONE have anything against getting the NEWEST OS? All our efforts should be on gingerbread, since it offers the most compared to Froyo. Its not like moving to GB has any shortcomings, so why NOT want it?
I just got my nook color last night - I've found BBuy that had it in stock about 50 miles and drove there - sure enough about 20 were on the shelve - forgot to mention I traveled actually from one state to another (about 50 miles) to get it right of the shelve ... so anyhow, I am happy with "locked" nook color has to offer - I am even more thrilled about rooting it soon and unlocking the full potential. NC here I come
Yeah, a lot of the reviews bemoaned its alleged "doesn't know what it is" status. I've rooted mine, OC'd it, isntalled dozens of apps and games. Yet I still use it primarily to read novels, and do some light web browsing. And for that, it's dead perfect.
In other words, even an unrooted NC is an outstanding gizmo. I mean that screen is just to die for.
I definitely love my Nook. People are always surprised when I tell them it was only $250. Froyo on teh emmc via dd ftw! It's much better than the stock OS.
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I definitely love my Nook. People are always surprised when I tell them it was only $250. Froyo on teh emmc via dd ftw! It's much better than the stock OS.
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IN regards to emmc Froyo - what about the lag? I guess it may just be my SD card, but every Froyo build i have tried, has been painfully laggy - not slow, but things like gmail can take 1-2 minutes to actually show the mail. The app drawer animations are also oddly slow. Does emmc really make Froyo more usable for you?
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IN regards to emmc Froyo - what about the lag? I guess it may just be my SD card, but every Froyo build i have tried, has been painfully laggy - not slow, but things like gmail can take 1-2 minutes to actually show the mail. The app drawer animations are also oddly slow. Does emmc really make Froyo more usable for you?
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Oh GOD yes. There is no lag on eMMC. Typing this comment to you on my Froyo'd NC right now
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You mean aside from the better Dalvik VM, better battery management, improved UI, improved hardware capabilities (improved camera handling, gyroscope, NFC), improved game API, improved audio API, new media (audio/video) support, and a new linux base kernel? I guess if you don't count those, you still have the new/updated core libraries, updated bluetooth stack, improved text selection, built-in VOIP, and of course, the better keyboard...
Seriously, i mean, really seriously, why would ANYONE have anything against getting the NEWEST OS? All our efforts should be on gingerbread, since it offers the most compared to Froyo. Its not like moving to GB has any shortcomings, so why NOT want it?
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No, I agree that Gingerbread has small incremental improvements, but nothing that'd cause me to say screw Froyo, wait for Gingerbread. Especially if Gingerbread on the NC is well off.
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No, I agree that Gingerbread has small incremental improvements, but nothing that'd cause me to say screw Froyo, wait for Gingerbread. Especially if Gingerbread on the NC is well off.
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I guess what i am thinking - given that Gingerbread is already being worked on, and our Froyo build doesn't actually work that well, why not just move ALL the resources out there to GB, and the most recent right away. Why go incrementally?
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I guess what i am thinking - given that Gingerbread is already being worked on, and our Froyo build doesn't actually work that well, why not just move ALL the resources out there to GB, and the most recent right away. Why go incrementally?
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I'd agree with that.. If the effort is the same for both, go with Gingerbread. However so far we have Nookie Froyo which is "mostly" there and I haven't heard of Gingerbread on the NC at all.
Just to add how amazing this gadget is I'm typing this comment using SlideIT and it has taken mea fraction of what it used to.
Sent from my rooted Nook Color
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I'd agree with that.. If the effort is the same for both, go with Gingerbread. However so far we have Nookie Froyo which is "mostly" there and I haven't heard of Gingerbread on the NC at all.
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WEll, there is a gingerbread branch that is being worked on here: https://github.com/fat-tire/android_device_bn_encore
And there is plenty of talk that CM7 is on its way (though, i admit that i still fall into the see it to believe it camp). http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11127-nook-color/page__st__40
But regardless, the froyo build really isn't that usable - its laggy, market is like sludge, etc. I really think that the devs working on it, should take the froyo lessons, and focus totally on GB. Let froyo be the sandbox for others to learn on, and let GB be the first real OS upgrade for the NC.
For those brave souls using Honeycomb daily on their Nooks, what kind of tweaks are you doing to help with performance/compatibility?
Thanks in advance!
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I'd also like to know if there are tweaks you can do to makc HC stable/perfered for the nook, anyone using it full time?
If you already have it installed on the eMMC with an overclocked kernel you have done all you can do.
Honeycomb development pretty much died the day Google said that their was going to be no source code release. We might never see a "stable" Honeycomb for the Nook Color.
With that said, many people has been working on making Froyo and CM7 better in Honeycomb's absence. I personally think the Tablet Tweaks CM7 version is more useable than even the Honeycomb on a Xoom I tried (at least our SD card slots work), and for people who are DYING for Honeycomb there is the NookieComb which is Froyo hacked to act like Honeycomb.
Take a look at the development forum for more information.
you can turn off all transition animations to get a bit of a speed boost...also opera mobile is much faster (but not as nice) as the HC browser
im running it off emmc and its actually very stable for web/reading...video isnt great yet and there is a bit of UI lag but IMO very usable...
I thought Google said they just delayed the 3.0 release. I read into that that 3.0 is a disaster right now and they are still trying to make it a clean product. I think Ipad is scaring them and they are moving into overdrive at Google trying to get ahead (meaning 3.0 came out before it was really ready).
I totally agree. Google doesn't want to let a half baked product out the door when you know the ipad 2 will be stellar.
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I thought Google said they just delayed the 3.0 release.
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The head developer of Android has said that AOSP won't be released until the phone features are merged, which means no code until Ice Cream.
So if the original ETA for Ice Cream was summer 2011, then I guess we see nothing until at least Christmas?
Meaning that Android tablets have been dealt a death blow for <b>another</b> year?
I am so glad for the independent developers working so hard at XDA.
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So if the original ETA for Ice Cream was summer 2011, then I guess we see nothing until at least Christmas?
Meaning that Android tablets have been dealt a death blow for <b>another</b> year?
I am so glad for the independent developers working so hard at XDA.
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i could be wrong but am pretty sure something will get 'leaked' before then....
I don't think Google minds -too- much that they are slowing down tablet development anyway. They've made it clear they want the "final solution" for tablets to be ChromeOS. Android for tablets is just a stop-gap measure.
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I don't think Google minds -too- much that they are slowing down tablet development anyway. They've made it clear they want the "final solution" for tablets to be ChromeOS. Android for tablets is just a stop-gap measure.
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When did google say this?
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Is there any advantage to the overclock kernel? I have the regular kernel running at 1100 with CPU Tuner (unless the overclock kernel comes in v2 by default)
I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.
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I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.
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Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.
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Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.
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Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*
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Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
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Sorry, but that is crazy. The bluetooth is incredibly useful. It allows me to use the Nook as a standalone nav device (and let me tell you, nav on a 7" rocks), or use my bluetooth speaker set. The battery life is fine for what it is. even overclocked, i have never run out of battery in a heavy days use. Charge at night, and i am good to go. I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
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I am talking as a consumer as well. I hated the changes B&N made to the Android look and feel. I understand it was done with the goal of making it an eReader, but given an alternative, i had no desire to keep it. Even benchmarks aside, Ginerbread has always felt faster (and has better app and memory management).
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*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*
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I have no problems with discussion.
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I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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The reader is the only reason I can justify having a tablet. The Transformer is REALLY tempting but I can't really find a specific use aside from the "because I can," attitude.
Hate to say it, but I tend to agree with Madcat on this one. CM7 is a constantly growing project with lots of development support. Stock is... Well stock... You may never see another update for it and I don't feel it comes with anywhere near as much customization.
If you're truly happy with an "eReader" than updates are silly past Manualnooter. It's overclocked and you can read just fine. If you want a "tablet" that's why there's CM7.
That said, had I just wanted an eReader, I would have just bought a Nook or Kindle, battery life is far better for those, and you can easily read your books. Like Madcat said, it's very easy to use the Nook Color heavily (overclocked to 1.3ghz on .29 kernel/Debateable on .32 till PBD is fixed) for a whole day and charge at night. I don't think you're going to see much better even on Stock...
Bluetooth... Silly? LOL, the only thing missing from the Nook color is video out, and I would have a highly portable video game system for vacations, family get togethers, etc.. As Madcat also mentioned, bluetooth gps is pretty awesome on this screen, makes me regret recently buying a TomTom.
But you're also forgetting USB host support that will soon be baked in, allowing the nook to use external usb keybords, mouses, webcams(possibly?), video game controllers and hard drives!
Something goes wrong with CM7 you have a lot of dev support and other user support. Something breaks in Stock and you have the manual spoken to you in verbatim, with an Indian Accent and an American name.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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Not sure why it hasn't ended for video... Overclock it and use Moboplayer and you can easily watch videos. That or learn to encode videos with handbrake to the specs of the nook color for hardware acceleration.
As far as the Nook App goes... I don't really read books outside of pdfs, so correct me if I'm wrong... But couldn't you use other programs like Kindle? or Moon Reader or Aikido?
I'm a little confused about the Bluetooth usability comments. Has the extremely short range issue been resolved and I missed it?
Personally I did want a device that was mostly an eReader with added capability. A rooted/over-clocked Nook Color running Smart Taskbar, Button Savior and a few other goodies fits that bill. Sure the user interface is not Android but that wasn't my intent from the start.
If the Bluetooth range can be/has been resolved, that would be icing on the cake if it gets ported to the rooted NC.If Bluetooth range while using WiFi is still sub par, I wouldn't describe it as very useful even if I were running CM7.
Even though we're on XDA, not all of us are interested in constantly tinkering with our toys all the time. If that is your thing, I say more power to you but there is no call to ridicule others who are looking for something different. Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe
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Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe
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Who's being rude? Seems pretty civil so far.
I just nooted last night with the lastest MN and Dalingrin's 2.6.32 OC kernel and let me tell you I am as happy as I can be. I did consider CM7 or Phiremod which I think are great but then I realized I am using this baby more for ereading than anything else.
I do like the BN reader launcher and I want to enjoy it a little bit more, the OC brings new life to it (is laggy as hell out of the box). I have now installed around 50 apps including ADW EX, customized it to my taste and to be frank regarding UI I have it to the level CM7 or Phiremod is. I can't imagine it faster than it is (it actually beats my Cognition 4 Samsung Galaxy S in feel and in Quadrant 1800 vs 2300 for the nook).
So I might change later but my needs are fulfilled for now, same situation with my Galaxy S, until CM7 is stable over there I'm sticking with stable froyo Cog goodness.
I can't find a dev thread that has been updated for a while.. I know cm7 still gets worked on, but with such stable builds of gingerbread and so many people with a nook color, I would think there would be some sort of custom roms still in development.
I know plenty of other devices that don't have anything but gingerbread, and they still have plenty of customized roms kernels and tweaks coming out. Have the devs moved on to newer, bigger, better devices?
I want a new phone, some phones coming out offer features I think will make them worth the investment, but no tablet that is out offers enough where I would dump my nook.. but part of what I want in any device is to squeeze out everything you can. The og Droid is still being pushed to limits, and I see this device in the same category. Worthy of being pushed far beyond anything before it.
I read at article about the nook color 2 coming out this month, whether it is true or not isn't the issue.. I'm just trying to figure out if people have given up on this one. Since I doubt that the NC2 will allow customization like this one has, I hope people here will again decide the device is worth pushing..
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Cm7 is updated nightly. Gingerbread is as far as we can go because google will not release the source code. Once ICS is released we will get a port of that.
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I can't find a dev thread that has been updated for a while.. I know cm7 still gets worked on, but with such stable builds of gingerbread and so many people with a nook color, I would think there would be some sort of custom roms still in development.
I know plenty of other devices that don't have anything but gingerbread, and they still have plenty of customized roms kernels and tweaks coming out. Have the devs moved on to newer, bigger, better devices?
I want a new phone, some phones coming out offer features I think will make them worth the investment, but no tablet that is out offers enough where I would dump my nook.. but part of what I want in any device is to squeeze out everything you can. The og Droid is still being pushed to limits, and I see this device in the same category. Worthy of being pushed far beyond anything before it.
I read at article about the nook color 2 coming out this month, whether it is true or not isn't the issue.. I'm just trying to figure out if people have given up on this one. Since I doubt that the NC2 will allow customization like this one has, I hope people here will again decide the device is worth pushing..
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The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
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The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
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I'm already perfectly satisfied with mine but I'm still holding out hope that they might be able to eek out better video performance somehow.
I hope Nook Color 2 will be lighter in weight than the current version. I wish BNN can bump the hardware specs without adjusting the price for the next version
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I'm already perfectly satisfied with mine but I'm still holding out hope that they might be able to eek out better video performance somehow.
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We are limited to the capabilities of the hardware. Any other development must be in software. We already reached the near limits on both.
I'm sure that people are hard at work getting CM7 etc on other platforms (HP Touchpad) at the moment. When Ice Cream Sandwich is released, I'm sure that the NC will be in the loop for CM8.
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The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
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Most other devices are in a similar place, where they have gingerbread working as fully as possible, but that doesn't mean there isn't more they could do to make it awesome. Custom apps, different tweaks, changing the default ui in some way.. I don't see these other devices getting totally abandoned as if there is nothing more they could do. Cm7 is far from the best custom experience, it is simply the latest stable os.
Miui, with all of its flaws IMO(I like everything but the iPhone ish launcher), is certainly a better platform in some ways, but cm7 also has its own perks. If I saw a ron that combined the best features of both then I would say there isn't much left to do besides customize it..
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I am still holding out hope for movement on running non-Android OS natively, such as Ubuntu or Meebo. Still a pretty wide open pasture on that front.
With the impending release of ics
I would imagine people's enthusiasm for gingerbread has waned.
Also dedicated tablets are cheap and more functional. I only use my Nc as a dedicated reader and use my tablet for web surfing and such.
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8 GB is a little in the low end to run most Linux distros these days.
Also I think you can make a Meego micro sd card.
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8 GB is a little in the low end to run most Linux distros these days.
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Oh? My Kubuntu setup fits neatly within 5 GiB. Debian would use even less space.
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Oh? My Kubuntu setup fits neatly within 5 GiB. Debian would use even less space.
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I didn't say it wouldn't fit, I said it's a little on the low end.
BTW, for Kubuntu:
Required Recommended
Processor 1 GHz (x86) Better than 1 GHz (x86)
Memory 384 MB 1 GB
Hard drive capacity 4 GB[33] 10 GB[33]
Video card VGA @ 640x480 VGA @ 1024x768
And Fedora:
Minimum system requirements
6GB free disk space
2GB of RAM.
And Ubuntu:
1 GHz x86 processor (Pentium 4 or better)
512 MiB of system memory (RAM)
5 GB of hard-drive space
Graphics card and monitor capable of 800x600
Either a CD/DVD drive or a USB port (or both)
So yeah, it'll fit, but it's still on the low end if you want a graphical interface.