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It would be awesome if there was an application to use the MBW-150 bluetooth watch on the G1. Is anyone developing one?
-Tyler
I'll bite. I'd buy one if I didn't have to use a sony ericson phone to use it.
[IDEA]A new contact app(2 preview screenshots)
Does anybody think the built-in contact app is not easy to use?
I'm working on a new contact app called aContact which provides a new UI to access to contact data and some more features.
So,anybody has any idea about this new app or found the disadvantages of the built-in contact app??
THANKS
I will post the scrrenshots after I finished the first version.
Thanks again for your advices!
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There are two screenshots.Any advice?
The best contact manager I've used was the one built into SPB Mobile Shell for Winmo.
thefoss said:
The best contact manager I've used was the one built into SPB Mobile Shell for Winmo.
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OK.I'm now using the htc touch diamond.I will try SPB Mobile Shell.
Thanks for your advice
nice idea even though i dont mind the g1's contact app i know it can be better.
some things i think you should add:
-ability to view contacts in groups or categories
- if possible assign ringtones to group
- have the number/letter show up when scrolling like the icontact for wm
- integrate it so that when someone send you a number you can long press and add number to you contact manager or you can make it retrieve contacts through google.
- have birthday
haitiankid4lyf said:
nice idea even though i dont mind the g1's contact app i know it can be better.
some things i think you should add:
-ability to view contacts in groups or categories
- if possible assign ringtones to group
- have the number/letter show up when scrolling like the icontact for wm
- integrate it so that when someone send you a number you can long press and add number to you contact manager or you can make it retrieve contacts through google.
- have birthday
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Yes!I am strongly agree with you!
The built-in contact has no birthday records!
BTW,I think iContact is a nice app on WM.
[REQ] Android App Ideas
hello android users,
I am a developer on the windows mobile side of things (see the M2DC thread for an example of my work) and I am thinking I might like to move over to developing for android.
I have a few problems, first, I don't have a device, this is not a huge deal at the moment because I can just use the SDK emulator for now, but I will be purchasing a device later on if I like developing for this platform. The second problem is that I need help with ideas for some simple apps... since I do not have a G1 to handle on a daily basis I don't really get the chance to feel things out and discover where an app might come in useful.
So my request is this. Does anyone have any ideas for "simple" android applications? Anything they wish the phone did better? Or a simple functionality that they wish the phone had? Reading through this forum it looks like there is a demand for OCR and possibly something to make applying new themes/skins easier? Or the TextTwist Game?
Of these 3 the game sounds the most interesting, the theme changer sounds good too because that is what my current development in windows mobile does, and the OCR is most likely out of my league at the moment.
I am open to any app ideas, I'm just looking for something to get me started and get me interested in the platform.
A few apps i would like to see as follows
1. A reboot option in shut down menu "if possible".
2. Digital Clock for homescreen
3. Screen Capture
4. Camera Zoom option
5. Checkers
Hope this helps a bit, good luck!
An application that kills tasks running in the background (although most folks say it's not possible right now), video recorder, night mode for camera, or Sirius/XM internet streamer similar to SiriusWM5 (I'm not sure that one is possible at the moment either...). Of course, you could create widgets (something more simple) but the source code won't be available to next year allegedly.
- Office suite (word and excel file editor)
- Youtube downloader from phone (like iphone mxtube)
- Super Mario Chronicles !!!!!
- FlightGear portable
- compiz fusion !! (not important but just tto test phone power to my friend that have an Iphone)
- More widget
haitiankid4lyf said:
nice idea even though i dont mind the g1's contact app i know it can be better.
some things i think you should add:
-ability to view contacts in groups or categories
- if possible assign ringtones to group
- have the number/letter show up when scrolling like the icontact for wm
- integrate it so that when someone send you a number you can long press and add number to you contact manager or you can make it retrieve contacts through google.
- have birthday
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You can view contacts in groups - Contacts - Menu - Display Group (created on GMAIL page).
Ringtones to groups would be nice, but for now you may just display a group and assign them all a ringtone
The long press to dial/save numbers in SMS has been addressed and should be in the final version of Android 1.0.
A birthday? Ehrmm.... Would personally prefer that to stay where it is (in my calendar).
I would like it to integrate the Dialer and searching for contacts, so i can just start typing a name or a number and it would show me the matching contacts. (I think SpellDial does this but is not very robust).
Thanks
Need view sort by last name, company, etc.
jhales said:
Need view sort by last name, company, etc.
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OK.I'm working on this.
ye11ow said:
OK.I'm working on this.
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This is tougher because the gmail contacts (web) only has one field for the name...
--M
Thank you very much for the input guys, I really appreciate it. These lists are definitely getting the creative juices flowing... I will see what I can put together.
If possible I will open source the beta version of my first program and post the beta packages here on xda for everyone to use without charge... I am still learning the whole process so we will see what happens in the end
Thank you for the suggestions, and I am still open to hearing more
I guess "simple" is also relative to your level of proficiency in Java and mobile development. As far as holes in the shipped operating system that could use fixing, there are many points to attack. Some could be done in the JVM, others would have to be done in native c. Examples include:
An office suite
Video recording
Touchscreen text input (API will expose this in 09Q1)
A simple but high-quality word or puzzle game would be great tho.
Edit: welcome aboard the Android side too ;-)
jashsu said:
I guess "simple" is also relative to your level of proficiency in Java and mobile development. As far as holes in the shipped operating system that could use fixing, there are many points to attack. Some could be done in the JVM, others would have to be done in native c. Examples include:
An office suite
Video recording
Touchscreen text input (API will expose this in 09Q1)
A simple but high-quality word or puzzle game would be great tho.
Edit: welcome aboard the Android side too ;-)
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I agree with you 100%, the system stuff sounds good, but of the posted ideas and from what I have seen there is a small demand for "simple" games, and this is the direction I plan on going initially, games are fun to make and they should give me a decent overview of what is involved in throwing together an app.
As far as my java proficiency... I can definitely get by. I have a few websites that rely completely on the google web toolkit, and my bachelors degree was typical of an early 2008 CS curriculum, 2 years of java to learn what OO programming is, and then 2 years of C to learn about the fun stuff (pointers, threads, compilers, OS's, etc...). but like I said before I am just looking to make a traditional application, and I think that it is going to end up being a game of some sort,
I don't have a device yet, if I get one it would be pretty much a development only device, so I am trying to get my feet wet with an app or 2 before I decide to get one. I did manage to get a few minutes with a G1 today and I must say that the device feels so much better than my Titan, that capacitive touchscreen is awesome.
Once I get something going I will startup a new project on google code so I can take advantage of the free svn server and start posting my progress
fun stuff (pointers
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I have to admit that might be the first time i've seen the word "fun" and "pointers" so close together ;-)
I did manage to get a few minutes with a G1 today and I must say that the device feels so much better than my Titan, that capacitive touchscreen is awesome.
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Capacitive touch screens feel great and and quite responsive but they do have their caveats too. The main one is that accuracy of input is lower than with a stylus. You'll have to keep that in mind when you design the UI. You can scale the size of the emulator on screen to match an actual G1's physical screen size (emulated pixels might be mangled though).
Once I get something going I will startup a new project on google code so I can take advantage of the free svn server and start posting my progress
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Looking forward to it There are some specific android development communities you can check out too for more relevant talk on android java programming. anddev.org I think is a popular site.
Any chance there's a way to run Apache Home Server on my CDMA Hero?
Not looking for anyone who wants to convince me not to, I would just like to know if it's possible/doable.
Also, rather than making a seperate topic,
Is there any way we can:
1) Make a pointer for the track ball? Even, at the very least, while using the browser? I mean, really... why has this not been done yet?
2) Make it so our Home Screens turn when the Accelerometer changes to wide view. When sliding the keyboard out on the Droid and (I believe G1) the viewing automatically changes to landscape. I would love this feature as well. Is this doable, possible?
Thanks in advance, any advice given is appreciated!
bump...
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if you compile apache and all the libs and whatever it depends on for android then it should be possible. afaik there is a webserver for android out there, any reason why it needs to be apache? i think it is way to complex for android, a small lightweight webserver should be no problem in theory.
a trackball pointer might be possible, but not trivial. personally i don't see the reason, when using the trackball in the browser the selected link is highlighted green, what do you need a pointer for?
again, theoretically doable is also the rotated homescreen. you "just" need to redesign sense ui for landscape view. which might be really hard, as it is more than just a small app, and it is closed source (because it is part of htc's modifications, not part of the original android). tbh, don't wait for it to happen unless htc does it.
and last but not least: no offense, but give your posts a few hours, not everything is answered directly.
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if you compile apache and all the libs and whatever it depends on for android then it should be possible. afaik there is a webserver for android out there, any reason why it needs to be apache? i think it is way to complex for android, a small lightweight webserver should be no problem in theory.
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It doesn't need to be Apache, I'm just more familiar with that particular server software. If there are other options I would be glad to explore them. There are a few things I would like to test that I think would be kind of cool depending on the type of webserver I can run.
a trackball pointer might be possible, but not trivial. personally i don't see the reason, when using the trackball in the browser the selected link is highlighted green, what do you need a pointer for?
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A track ball would help out in a lot of ways. If open to the OS it would let me select programs, etc. while wearing gloves. It would open up the option of navigating without having to actually use the touch screen in case the scenario presents itself (again, gloves).
If just the browser it could help with games and those types of things. One important thing I have noticed is that I can't scroll within a frame on the browser. If I had a pointer I could, at the least, be able to click and drag the inner frame down without moving the main browsing page. This is somewhat vital to me as my College's Blackboard System is completely based on these types of web pages.
again, theoretically doable is also the rotated homescreen. you "just" need to redesign sense ui for landscape view. which might be really hard, as it is more than just a small app, and it is closed source (because it is part of htc's modifications, not part of the original android). tbh, don't wait for it to happen unless htc does it.
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That's a shame. The one problem I have is the amount of rotating I have to do. I would prefer to have the home screens locked in landscape rather than how they are now. It's just a little ridiculous to be watching a video on the phone and texting someone... but every time you want to reply/text you have to rotate the phone. It just seems tedious and I'm a man of efficiency if I can help it.
Maybe I can convince HTC.
and last but not least: no offense, but give your posts a few hours, not everything is answered directly.
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Sorry about that. XDA is very popular and I assumed my post had already become lossed in the fray. I posted on my lunch break and bumped one hour before having to go home so I had hoped I would get one response before then.
Thanks!
And anymore information would be appreciated. Not just from you but anyone else who has any information.
fatkitty420 said:
2) Make it so our Home Screens turn when the Accelerometer changes to wide view. When sliding the keyboard out on the Droid and (I believe G1) the viewing automatically changes to landscape. I would love this feature as well. Is this doable, possible?
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I believe this is being done in the 2.1 Sense that HTC have promised us...sometime.
But imo its really ugly, nothing seems to be the right proportions (I'm a designer, so it kinda bugged me)
fatkitty420 said:
A track ball would help out in a lot of ways. If open to the OS it would let me select programs, etc. while wearing gloves. It would open up the option of navigating without having to actually use the touch screen in case the scenario presents itself (again, gloves).
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that can be solved, press menu on homescreen, from there on you can use the trackball to navigate to all programs and then navigate through the menu.
i got myself some gloves from north face, which have a conducting fabric on the tips of thumb and index finger, so i can use the touchscreen natively with them. works great, actually got them before i had the hero because they are cool anyway
for the rest: i see your point now, but can't help. and tbh i don't think htc will take too much interest in your concerns... but try anyway, at least they should know about it!
For the web server you might want to try PAW server for Android. Although it's still in beta, it has a lot of built-in goodies like call log, send SMS and so on.
And you can serve your own static or dynamic (BeanShell) pages.
And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
Good luck to the rest.
rysky007 said:
And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
Good luck to the rest.
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Umm, HTC does not have any say in creating the WP7 interface. If you didn't like the interface, then why buy the phone? Plenty of us on this forum love the metro ui.
rysky007 said:
And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
Good luck to the rest.
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Cause you can only play and see what a phone has so much in the store, it takes time to really tell if you like a phone or not.
After using HTC sense on the HD2, I assumed that HTC would have a similar interface on this good hardware.
Dont get me wrong, the hard ware is nice, the typing is much better then HD2, but the OS by its self is terrible, just like HD2 original OS, but HTC sense on top of that interface makes it better.
But the OS by its self now, even compared to the HD2, is missing a lot of must have things, settings and features which every phone in today's market, hell any phone in the past ten years market should have.
I kept hearing about amazing updates, but each one is disappointing.
rysky007 said:
Cause you can only play and see what a phone has so much in the store, it takes time to really tell if you like a phone or not.
After using HTC sense on the HD2, I assumed that HTC would have a similar interface on this good hardware.
Dont get me wrong, the hard ware is nice, the typing is much better then HD2, but the OS by its self is terrible, just like HD2 original OS, but HTC sense on top of that interface makes it better.
But the OS by its self now, even compared to the HD2, is missing a lot of must have things, settings and features which every phone in today's market, hell any phone in the past ten years market should have.
I kept hearing about amazing updates, but each one is disappointing.
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Maybe do some research? If you even bothered to google what WP7 is, you would realize that manufacturers have no say it the software and that it still a new OS.
Don't blame HTC or Microsoft, blame yourself for not taking 5 minutes to research anything about WP7.
XPLANE9 said:
Maybe do some research? If you even bothered to google what WP7 is, you would realize that manufacturers have no say it the software and that it still a new OS.
Don't blame HTC or Microsoft, blame yourself for not taking 5 minutes to research anything about WP7.
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You guys crack me up, I did research it, but you really dont get a feel for an OS till you use it, you can watch all the videos you want, until you get it and use it and set it up for what you need and use, you dont get a feel for it.
The tiles I have no problem with, its what you cannot do with the tiles and other settings that bothers me, things not discussed by any one until the phone came out and used by many, I have been following this forum since the day the phone launched, and it slowly turned from "omg we love it " to "wtf is this? problem problem problem.
1. Tethering, yeah I know all the lovers will say "its the cell providers who are against it" wrong, if they were HD2 would not have the feature via third party app, LG has it in all of its new phones, Nokia has had it in every phone it has put out for the past 4 years. The cell providers would prefer you have it since it will increase your data usage, especially ones who dont offer unlimited data plans.
2. Select all - Enough said there, hell windows 3.1 had select all, 2010 OS does not? the predecessor did , why does this one not? Why do you need this feature one would ask? well for the rest of us who use the phone for what it can do and not just spend hours checking on our friends via facebook, when u use email heavily as I do and sms, select all is a beautiful and necessary feature. Again, its a feature that every phone out should have hands down, no questions.
3. Custom Profiles - why? again, old invention that is very very very handy. just make sense.
4. Program view - I thought something was off when i saw how it lists all the programs you have installed, until I disabled HTC sense on HD2 and saw that the original WM6.5 does the same idiotic crap.
I believe in the BC era man figured out that you can display data, much more efficiently when you use columns and rows. Then why the hell does a OS released in 2010 list all of it in one long ass list? Oh yeah thats right, its brand new, give it 5 years to develop, no, not a good answer, again a feature that every phone today should have.
5. Tile Colors - yes i know some one made a program that lets you change them, but do we really have to do all that to have a feature that lets us choose colors we want? hell look at the pre set colors we have, its what my 12 year old niece likes. I was using the phone with the default blue in a public place a girl saw the colors and looked at me like i swing the other way.
6. Now lets get into more advance things -
A. To make a call, you first have to go to home page then hit the
phone area of the tiles then type in a number, man if you in life and
death situation, your done. There should ways be a button to
access the one main feature ( make calls) from any were.
A.1 - Most of us hold the phone toward the bottom, but the
answer and hang up button is toward the top of the
screen? last I checked, over long thumbs are not invented
yet.
B. When viewing your contacts, no alphabet slider on the side, hell my
6 year old nokia had that feature, again predecessor HD2 (thanks to
HTC sense) had it, this one, first you have to scroll to nearest letter
then push it, then select another letter you want to jump to. Why
the extra steps?
C. Email - if face book and gmail is all you got, great, what about
business ppl who have several email addresses? In order for me to
track my 4 addresses, I have 4 tiles dedicated on my home screen.
combine that with contacts and phone, and my screen is full, I
have to scroll more on my home page to find the tile i need then
any were else on phone. ( HD 2, had displayed 14 things for you
on home page) this phone max 6 and you have to scroll. So say
I am looking at one email address and need to switch to anther,
on HD2 simple they were all available right there on the preview
page. On HD7, back to home page we go.
Is that what they call efficiency these days? they keep touting this phone to be easy to use, get what you need faster and move on in their nifty commercials.
I counted, it takes more pushes and steps to achieve what you need on HD7 then HD2.
So yes it has the amazing live tiles, but are they really? when I have emails my HD2 tells me that I have email on home page, SMS? same thing, missed call? same thing, reminder? same thing, so what is the advantage to the live tile?
besides their lack of color options and re size ability? Thats right, when your bff takes a dump and updates his facebook profile that he is amazed at the shape it came out in, you will be the first to know.
If some one would of wrote this kind of a review, clearly stating the pros and cons, I would of never touched this OS, but they didn't, you know why the didnt? cause Microsoft paid very well to make sure the reviews and info was positive, they got a xmas phone to sell. And that they did. (those of you who will say that is crap, Microsoft would not do that, trust me they do, im in a very similar industry)
But i know, you guys are going to flame me, call me a idiot, a hater, and that its a new OS bla bla, the Iphone was bad to when it first came out.
yeah that was 5 years ago, you dont start over, you take it up a notch, and that is not what Microsoft did. Why you guys think they are partnering up with Nokia? cause WM7 flopped.
Let the flaming begin
rysky007 said:
yeah that was 5 years ago, you dont start over, you take it up a notch, and that is not what Microsoft did. Why you guys think they are partnering up with Nokia? cause WM7 flopped.
Let the flaming begin
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Didnt care too much to read your long response, because as the other said, research would have stopped you from buying this phone. If you knew what the OS was about, you would have stuck with the HD2.
Anyway, isn't it Nokia who are flopping with Symbian and wanting WP7 to up their phone sales?
I agree to the most of the missing features in WP7 he wrote about.
The wm users are spoiled, they could give their smartphone an individual style and they could customize their apps and design. WP7 is boring in this way. But i flashed my HD2 back to wm 6.5.x, and after one day i felt, that i went back to yesterday. The control of WP7 is modern and in many ways more efficient.
After this desicion i bought a native WP7-Phone, the HD7, and hope for future ways to individualize it. At 1st the start screen... i hope for a chance, to make it more elegant and have a wallpaper background. Then i hope for smart dialing (native, not with a program) and for an email hub with all my accounts. Also i hope, i can create indidual hubs for system, internet, comm apps and so on, so that the start menu is not five miles long and more properly. I hope, to have a chance for a music player, which can open and play my folders...like mortplayer before, and a video player with mpeg and avi support. Also a way, to get advanced memory by using sd cards.
The best way for MS would be, to give back the features of wm 6.5 in a new and modern smartphone with more abilities. Because they made smartphones long, before Aplle and Google woke up. They used the experience of microsoft and give these phones a modern staff and electronic. Why didn´t use MS it´s own experiences and why must they go a seperate way with an unready OS?
So we have to wait, for MS, Chevron and many other creators. Maybe in two years we look much more lucky...or WP is at it´s end.
rysky007 said:
You guys crack me up, I did research it, but you really dont get a feel for an OS till you use it, you can watch all the videos you want, until you get it and use it and set it up for what you need and use, you dont get a feel for it.
The tiles I have no problem with, its what you cannot do with the tiles and other settings that bothers me, things not discussed by any one until the phone came out and used by many, I have been following this forum since the day the phone launched, and it slowly turned from "omg we love it " to "wtf is this? problem problem problem.
1. Tethering, yeah I know all the lovers will say "its the cell providers who are against it" wrong, if they were HD2 would not have the feature via third party app, LG has it in all of its new phones, Nokia has had it in every phone it has put out for the past 4 years. The cell providers would prefer you have it since it will increase your data usage, especially ones who dont offer unlimited data plans.
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Tethering on the HD7 is indeed restricted by T-Mobile. Other WP7 handsets on other carriers can tether.
rysky007 said:
2. Select all - Enough said there, hell windows 3.1 had select all, 2010 OS does not? the predecessor did , why does this one not? Why do you need this feature one would ask? well for the rest of us who use the phone for what it can do and not just spend hours checking on our friends via facebook, when u use email heavily as I do and sms, select all is a beautiful and necessary feature. Again, its a feature that every phone out should have hands down, no questions.
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While not a real ctrl+a or select all, the latest update allows you to select as much text as you want by tapping a word, and adjusting the slider. Effective for massive amounts of text? No, but how often do you need to select massive amounts of text on a phone? This method, in my opinion, works fine for a paragraph or two.
rysky007 said:
3. Custom Profiles - why? again, old invention that is very very very handy. just make sense.
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Not to me it doesn't
rysky007 said:
4. Program view - I thought something was off when i saw how it lists all the programs you have installed, until I disabled HTC sense on HD2 and saw that the original WM6.5 does the same idiotic crap.
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Expect in WP7 the program screen flies in either direction, getting you to what you want fast. Mango will also add the ability to jump to a given letter, like contacts.
rysky007 said:
6. Now lets get into more advance things -
A. To make a call, you first have to go to home page then hit the
phone area of the tiles then type in a number, man if you in life and
death situation, your done. There should ways be a button to
access the one main feature ( make calls) from any were.
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Two taps versus one tap is that much of a deal-breaker to you?
rysky007 said:
A.1 - Most of us hold the phone toward the bottom, but the
answer and hang up button is toward the top of the
screen? last I checked, over long thumbs are not invented
yet.
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As a right-handed person, I hold the phone in my left hand. My thumb easily taps the end call button, and I did not star in Even Cowgirls Sing the Blues.
rysky007 said:
B. When viewing your contacts, no alphabet slider on the side, hell my
6 year old nokia had that feature, again predecessor HD2 (thanks to
HTC sense) had it, this one, first you have to scroll to nearest letter
then push it, then select another letter you want to jump to. Why
the extra steps?
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Go into contacts, tap the letter A. SIMPLE.
rysky007 said:
C. Email - if face book and gmail is all you got, great, what about
business ppl who have several email addresses? In order for me to
track my 4 addresses, I have 4 tiles dedicated on my home screen.
combine that with contacts and phone, and my screen is full, I
have to scroll more on my home page to find the tile i need then
any were else on phone. ( HD 2, had displayed 14 things for you
on home page) this phone max 6 and you have to scroll. So say
I am looking at one email address and need to switch to anther,
on HD2 simple they were all available right there on the preview
page. On HD7, back to home page we go.
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Because tapping the Home capacitive button and then a different tile is THAT big of a pain?
rysky007 said:
Is that what they call efficiency these days? they keep touting this phone to be easy to use, get what you need faster and move on in their nifty commercials.
I counted, it takes more pushes and steps to achieve what you need on HD7 then HD2.
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I can say with all honesty, that the 20 people I migrated from HD2's to HD7's couldn't be happier. Literally. My mobile support calls dropped to ZERO. No
rysky007 said:
when I have emails my HD2 tells me that I have email on home page, SMS? same thing, missed call? same thing, reminder? same thing, so what is the advantage to the live tile?
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It also tells you all of this on the lockscreen. Tap your power button, glance at the screen, turn it back off. Also, all these things you mention are on your home page, just like your HD2. Not sure what the issue here is.
rysky007 said:
If some one would of wrote this kind of a review, clearly stating the pros and cons, I would of never touched this OS, but they didn't, you know why the didnt? cause Microsoft paid very well to make sure the reviews and info was positive, they got a xmas phone to sell. And that they did. (those of you who will say that is crap, Microsoft would not do that, trust me they do, im in a very similar industry)
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You should read Engadget.
If you don't like it, that's fine. However, just about everything you mention here is personal preference, not missing or lacking features.
And here are the changes the updates bring, for the curious...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx
HTC sense slows down the device.... i never liked it i was using it on my TP2 and i gave it up as it craped up my TP2, used the energy titanium roms only...
i want to see what you will complain about afte MANGO is out....
some things will not be there on WP7 and the rest of them and more will follow with MANGO update...
Nokia will show there first WP7 device soon.
HTC sense will never be on WP7 devices...
Although I agree to lot of stuff being discussed here (good or bad) Mobiles now a days a more of a personal choice
I went and got the HD7 just to feel how WP7 was as I had never used a WM before having come from nokia symbian and android, I found it interestingly different.
for me the email is the best part of the OS and browsing is a joy on the HD7, but I am definitely looking forward to a NOKIA WP7 as I am sure two heads will be better than one
OK guys, I know this is really off topic but I can't help myself on this one. This is way too cool to keep to myself!
NOTE: For all you guys that know about Windows Speech Recognition, please skip this post. I was totally amazed to find that Windows Speech Recognition in on par or better than Dragon Naturally Speaking software. Since it was made by Microsoft to work with Windows, it has an edge over any other software that runs on Windows, much like Microsoft Office has. Microsoft pulled out all the stops on this software and didn't skimp on anything.
I am actually dictating everything you say with Windows 7 speech recognition enabled. I don't have to type anything at all and can simply tell the computer where I would like to appear in this document. I can also navigate all over windows and control things, like opening a program, using the menus, inserting pictures, etc.. I'm having pain in my fingertips, it actually is painful for me to type. My Dr. says it is a pinched nerve. You all know how much I like to post really big messages. But when you are experiencing pain in your fingers like I am, then I need a different way to type. I was using online be taken in chrome browser, but that was awkward, this speech recognition was not very good, was very simple, and then I would have to copy and paste anyway.
I was really looking for something better such as dragon naturally speaking software, but that cost money and I really don't have money at this time. So what the hack, I decided to search pool for "free windows dictation software" and I found the best link you could ever find. This one:
Turn on dictation for all programs
This link will show you how to enable can use speech recognition in windows 7. I was utterly blown away when I tried this myself. Not only does Windows 7 have accurate dictation software, it can also control the entire computer! I just finished a tutorial and I got a LOT out of it, but this dictation can do everything and it really works. So I am going to practice with this for the next few days and get better at it. Dictation is a lot faster than typing if you are not good at typing or have a painful condition. I am not kidding, this is the same thing you get with pain software like they were with Dragon Naturally Speaking. See for yourself! Good night my friends!
P.S. When you enable the speech recognition there is a tutorial that you can't take. You need about 15 minutes to do this, and you will speak your way through it. The tutorial is very powerful and is going to show you more things than you could possibly remember. But that is all right, the tutorial will also show you, how to control your computer with only a microphone and by telling you what to do . And how to pull up some fast help and a command list for reference. So by all means, please take the time and do the tutorial at least once.
The spelling mistakes have really sold it to me. Where do I sign?
So what's your position at Microsoft OP? ??
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I have (tried to) played around a bit with Remixos player on a Galaxy TabPro S and the conclusion is that I have never met a piece of software that was so inmature, useless and annoying. It is just a complete waste of time.
Once you get it started (despite the humorous messages it's not funny) there is no way for me as a german user to control the OS. Touchscreen input for tablets are is messed up by bad programming, no proper screenresolutions available, no fullscreen. Touchscreen input for an Android OS is messed up. I mean just think about that. That alone says it all.
You would think that at least the keyboard support would work. Not at all. I don't know what kind of keyboard it is that is running under the german label, but it is not german. They don't even get the label right: It is named "german qwerty", but it should go "german qwertz"
So entering an email address: not possible. There is no @ on the so called "german" keyboard.
But the ads are working all over the place. Here you see the priorities.
This is not serious software. It's bloatware. It's nothing but waste.
Switch to live usb. It's generally ok.
It's clear the player isn't their prior project nor goal within android machine's market, and it's normal, there are others things to do. I even think it was totally optional for them to do one.
Whatever, even if not their top priority, the updates are regular and the soft will improve. It's principal defaults are material (+ language) compatibilities, and maybe requirements too. Hardware compatibility is something that is totally rectifiable and there is good hope it will follow. This excluded, Remix is among the best actual solutions and will probably keep on doing so.
But as always there are some impatient people to express in unpleasant ways and judge things in a direct or even extreme manner, even for something that is almost (or always, I don't remember, it was one month ago) a beta. So please no need to go in a ruckus or for trash talking here like it's done almost everywhere on the web. Especially with gaming, which scene is total drama nowadays, and which scene touch this soft as well because of it's potential with games ....
A word to the wises ...
you are right, trash talking is not needed. I think it is appropiate in some cases though. Developers are doing this for a reason, there is the intention to make money here. Somehow. They put something out that is not working at all, but wasting my time. That's not all right.
You say it is almost a beta. Well almost, yes, it is alpha or even pre. If they declare it as such, you don't hear a word from me.
This method here, the way they chose to go, is not ok. There is potential yes, it might be fine for some now, for others in a year or so, good. Until then mark it as work in progress and invite beta testers, but don't pretend you have an actual product.
Esdeve said:
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Does not even recognize the Wifi on the Samsung Galaxy Tabpro S
Yeah yeah. Understood ... You are in your right because of commercial and ****s eh ?
To this point even if they of course plan to make money in the end, the soft is FREE, and like said, their commercial stretch goal is their MACHINES so making the OS work well first on em. To be more precise than before, the player here is what we call a loss leader, or event to be considered it a demonstration product, but a good one even with its defaults. Did you pay something for using it or is it free ? Do you make them live another way ? Do you have annoying frequents adds and downloads of unwanted apps like on some competitors ? Nope, they do differently.
Talk trashing isn't something to do, there is plenty of ways to express dissatisfaction or anger isn't it ? Or what are you ? Non human ? A goat ? Nope, it's not appropriate, you have no right, you are taking it. No right especially if you are maybe a player who is angry just because you can't have your decent easy drug game fix.
Respect AND disrespect aren't thing that are owned. They are something that is GAINED. And at the moment even if you may consider there is nothing allowing to give them your respect, there is neither anything to allow you being disrespectful. You are just drowning yourself in your own bull**** coming back and trying to justify yourselves.
As said, gaming scene became trash behavior all the way from down to top the moment it became easy access and global. People now think all is due to them.
I have nothing to do with gaming.
Yes I have paid with my time, wasted because of illusions.
Yes there are annoying frequent ads.
I don't share your opinion about respect and disrespect, in fact I think your are drowning yourself in your own bull**** coming back and trying to justify yourselves.
yea it is not needed here there are numerous of other emulator,bluestack or Andy...
Hey Novalis,
Apologies for the late reply as we've been swamped by our Kickstarter campaign. Also, really sorry to hear of your disappointment with Remix OS Player. I'd like to address the issues I can, and ask you to help us with a couple of the other ones:
1) Unfunny humorous messages - Noted, and I'll share this with the guy who thought it was clever.
2) The only place to tweak resolution is during startup where you click on the "Advanced" button.
3) The latest Remix OS Player has full screen mode.
4) We did not work on touchscreen support since Player was targeted at Intel based PCs whose majority do not have touchscreens.
5) The keyboard support - We did make changes to the way Android Studio laid out keyboards in order to support Keyboard shortcuts (ie. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). May I work with you to improve this? Also, if there are any keyboard names (as you mentioned "German QWERTZ" we do apologize) we've misnamed, thanks in advance for letting us know.
6) We do have ads in the program. We are a small startup still and we do need to find a way to keep the lights on for free software products like Remix OS Player and Remix OS for PC. This is the priority in play here.
Again, I do apologize for any time you've wasted on Remix OS Player. We do have a new update that also supports OTA now.
Perhaps you can work with me to at least get the keyboard localization issue communicated in detail to our dev team.
Thanks!
novalis01 said:
I have (tried to) played around a bit with Remixos player on a Galaxy TabPro S and the conclusion is that I have never met a piece of software that was so inmature, useless and annoying. It is just a complete waste of time.
Once you get it started (despite the humorous messages it's not funny) there is no way for me as a german user to control the OS. Touchscreen input for tablets are is messed up by bad programming, no proper screenresolutions available, no fullscreen. Touchscreen input for an Android OS is messed up. I mean just think about that. That alone says it all.
You would think that at least the keyboard support would work. Not at all. I don't know what kind of keyboard it is that is running under the german label, but it is not german. They don't even get the label right: It is named "german qwerty", but it should go "german qwertz"
So entering an email address: not possible. There is no @ on the so called "german" keyboard.
But the ads are working all over the place. Here you see the priorities.
This is not serious software. It's bloatware. It's nothing but waste.
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RemixOS_Jason said:
1) Unfunny humorous messages - Noted, and I'll share this with the guy who thought it was clever.
2) The only place to tweak resolution is during startup where you click on the "Advanced" button.
3) The latest Remix OS Player has full screen mode.
4) We did not work on touchscreen support since Player was targeted at Intel based PCs whose majority do not have touchscreens.
5) The keyboard support - We did make changes to the way Android Studio laid out keyboards in order to support Keyboard shortcuts (ie. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). May I work with you to improve this? Also, if there are any keyboard names (as you mentioned "German QWERTZ" we do apologize) we've misnamed, thanks in advance for letting us know.
6) We do have ads in the program. We are a small startup still and we do need to find a way to keep the lights on for free software products like Remix OS Player and Remix OS for PC. This is the priority in play here.
Perhaps you can work with me to at least get the keyboard localization issue communicated in detail to our dev team.
Thanks!
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1) look, I don't really care, it's just diffcult to find it funny if you are disappointed with the experience. In fact they would be funny if everything else was running smoothly.
2) add the native resolution of the host (you have to pre check that), and then
3) yes support fullscreen, and make sure that the resolution is properly scaled down on high res monitors (e.g. 4K).
4) In my opinion a big mistake. Android is a touch based OS and there a lot of touchscreens out there, more and more coming, and for them Remix is just unusable without touch input. I mean, think,: unusable. And it would be relatively easy to correct the mapping and disband the mouse pointer, ar least in fullscreen mode. Yes the majority out there has no touchscreen, but the majority of those who have want Android.
5) This is easy. Check out google for the german or any other language keyboard layout. Then make sure that your built in keyboards reflect that once you hit the keys. Then do your changes and check whether they interfere with what is expected from this keyboard layout.
Although it is a nice idea to transfer Windows functionallity to RemixOS it should not interfere with Android functionality. Android goes first, that's why people want to have it. Then you can add quality of life Windows features. If they work...
6) I don't mind ads. Unless they are not the only thing working... (for me)
I am sorry but because of the non working I had to uninstall Remix. And I would only reinstall it if I read that touchscreen support works. I would like to help, but without being able to do navigate, it just doesn't make sense.
novalis
Your points are taken and I've just shared them with the dev team in charge. I realize that with Remix OS for PC and Remix OS Player, we're never going to be able to satisfy all hardware/usage scenarios. We do need to choose our battles wisely based on the resources we have.
However, also as a startup, each user is vital for us. While still needing to adhere to the 80/20 rule due to our limited resources, I'll do the best I can to push our devs to work on 1) keyboard config support, and 2) touchscreen Intel devices.
Thanks again for your feedback and time.
novalis01 said:
1) look, I don't really care, it's just diffcult to find it funny if you are disappointed with the experience. In fact they would be funny if everything else was running smoothly.
2) add the native resolution of the host (you have to pre check that), and then
3) yes support fullscreen, and make sure that the resolution is properly scaled down on high res monitors (e.g. 4K).
4) In my opinion a big mistake. Android is a touch based OS and there a lot of touchscreens out there, more and more coming, and for them Remix is just unusable without touch input. I mean, think,: unusable. And it would be relatively easy to correct the mapping and disband the mouse pointer, ar least in fullscreen mode. Yes the majority out there has no touchscreen, but the majority of those who have want Android.
5) This is easy. Check out google for the german or any other language keyboard layout. Then make sure that your built in keyboards reflect that once you hit the keys. Then do your changes and check whether they interfere with what is expected from this keyboard layout.
Although it is a nice idea to transfer Windows functionallity to RemixOS it should not interfere with Android functionality. Android goes first, that's why people want to have it. Then you can add quality of life Windows features. If they work...
6) I don't mind ads. Unless they are not the only thing working... (for me)
I am sorry but because of the non working I had to uninstall Remix. And I would only reinstall it if I read that touchscreen support works. I would like to help, but without being able to do navigate, it just doesn't make sense.
novalis
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Hi.
Just to know.
I read about adds in Remix Os (player, in my case), here, and else. But well I can't see any or I'm totally blind. The only "adds" I saw were at first startup, giving the possibility to download some apps, and I can't really consider this like pub.
I'm not complaining about not having adds, sure ^^ but where are they ? Normal ? Not even automatic propositions or even downloads like with Andy. If you needs publicity to live on, better it to be working
Putting out a free software download does have it's pros and cons. On one hand, it's much easier to build up a user base, to get higher volumes of feedback and to build off of that feedback. However, to maintain the team that works on said software is a challenge. We did place ads in the apps drawer and have aimed to be unobtrusive with the ads as well as tailoring them to be relevant to the user. However, we did receive some backlash from users who may not understand the need for ads on free software. Thus, we have continued to dial back the way the ads are shown so that our users don't feel annoyed with them. That's probably why you don't see it as very intrusive anymore. Thanks again for your comments and interest!
Esdeve said:
Hi.
Just to know.
I read about adds in Remix Os (player, in my case), here, and else. But well I can't see any or I'm totally blind. The only "adds" I saw were at first startup, giving the possibility to download some apps, and I can't really consider this like pub.
I'm not complaining about not having adds, sure ^^ but where are they ? Normal ? Not even automatic propositions or even downloads like with Andy. If you needs publicity to live on, better it to be working
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Yes, know that.
And I finally saw the tab after posting and looking again ... Recommendations. But yeah, it's faaaaar than invasive. Or even absolutely invisible and can be ignored. Can't consider that personally as publicity. For me and add is a commercial, it's bling bling or even noisy, so much you can't miss it, or are forced to it.
Ads play a big role in android,so no surprise here.