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I don't regret buying the Nook.

I can honestly say, I don't regret buying the Nook. For me, the Nook has been one of the first devices that I've owned in the last 10 years that just gave me this feeling of... Wow.
My first modified device was an original PSX and back then... That was a big deal, one of the first systems to ever run emulators and play videos. I felt like I was getting so much bang for my buck back then. (Not including my "Backups"... Which made it safe to protect my games )
However, now that I feel like the Nook is just such a wonderful value, I find it really hard to rationalize other purchases because of it.
I don't own a Android phone, in fact I own a wannabe smartphone called the Samsung Rogue. Was pretty excited about getting one, as I was going to get a Droid X for HDMI output (Verizon). But, now Verizon is planning on limiting data and it kind of makes the Android just look far less attractive when I already carry the Nook Color around.
Then there's the prospect of other tablets and again, I'm swayed by the thought of HDMI output and Dual Core processors. But there's very few things my Nook Color can't do, and really it just comes down to video output.
So though I love my Nook Color and feel like every new development is a reassurance in my purchase... I feel a little robbed by how awesome it is ;p.

Agreed. I bought mine off of craigslist and really enjoy tweeking it as new work becomes available. I feel so reassured to have all these devs working to put cooler stuff day after day. I really enjoy this new hobby of mine.

Can't agree more. Love it.

Ditto... I can't get enough of my Nook. Now with Netflix I am so set.

Yeah I'm surprisingly enjoying mine too. The wife is happy that I now have netflix working on it too.
I just need to see if I can adjust to using it as a reader instead of a paper book.

I like mine too. I agonized over buying it because I don't even own a cell phone and $250 seemed like a lot of money for an e-reader that I would use to occasionally surf the internet with. But it's been a lot of fun so far. I still don't use it for a fraction of the things it's capable of but it's a great e-reader, is really good for web browsing and I'm pretty much addicted to Angry Birds.
The only bummer for me is that my Nook app stopped syncing with my library for some reason, so now I have to use the Kindle app. But it works.

Nook opened my eyes to andriod. I was a die hard iphonefan. I do wish I owned a real dual core honeycomb tab now though
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Is this to counter that other thread?

Gin1212 said:
I can honestly say, I don't regret buying the Nook. For me, the Nook has been one of the first devices that I've owned in the last 10 years that just gave me this feeling of... Wow.
My first modified device was an original PSX and back then... That was a big deal, one of the first systems to ever run emulators and play videos. I felt like I was getting so much bang for my buck back then. (Not including my "Backups"... Which made it safe to protect my games )
However, now that I feel like the Nook is just such a wonderful value, I find it really hard to rationalize other purchases because of it.
I don't own a Android phone, in fact I own a wannabe smartphone called the Samsung Rogue. Was pretty excited about getting one, as I was going to get a Droid X for HDMI output (Verizon). But, now Verizon is planning on limiting data and it kind of makes the Android just look far less attractive when I already carry the Nook Color around.
Then there's the prospect of other tablets and again, I'm swayed by the thought of HDMI output and Dual Core processors. But there's very few things my Nook Color can't do, and really it just comes down to video output.
So though I love my Nook Color and feel like every new development is a reassurance in my purchase... I feel a little robbed by how awesome it is ;p.
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One extremely good reason to get an android phone: Wifi hotspot. Then you can use your NC anywhere. I have the Fascinate on VZW, unrooted but with the hotspot unlocked (extremely easy to do). And if you sign up on unlimited, they will not convert you to a limited data plan, that's just for new subscribers. I signed up for unlimited data way back when, and when they converted to the 5gb cap, mine was still unlimited and I just do a NE2 and the plan stays exactly the same. I did a NE2 when they had the 5gb limit and I stayed unlimited as it gets grandfathered in.
That being said, I've never hit 5gb anyway...

If it does stay grandfathered-in, then I may very well stay with them. I don't really think I would go over the 5gb cap normally, however... I could very well see myself on a few road trips or vacations where I would use Netflix or one of the other streaming apps =\.

yup same here.... my wife bought me the Nook as a surprise.. she was a little shocked at the price... she has the original Nook, then she saw what I was doing with the flashed Nook... and was like WOW.... this is really good... I said yea.. compared to the cost of other tablets... that is a BIG YUPPERS!!!!

My wife regrets me buying the nook

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My wife regrets me buying the nook
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Weird... So does mine =\..

Should I keep my Streak 7 Wifi? Contemplating returning...(kinda urgent)

I already have a T-Mobile G2 (with CM7 installed), and after playing around with the Streak 7 about three days (bought it for $200 at Staples)...I don't know if it was worth the purchase. I still have a little over a week to return it, and I'm highly considering it.
I tried using it both with the stock Froyo (bloatware removed) and with dj_steve's Honeycomb...but in both cases, my phone can do the same thing pretty much about as fast, and more serious uses (like gaming or web browsing) are a more convenient on my 11" laptop (Alienware M11x). Not to mention, I do intend to switch to Sprint (for unlimited data), and I'll likely be getting the SGII or Evo3D, so even if I don't have a dual-core Android device now, I will soon.
I mean, it's nice that it fits in my pocket (even if just barely), but even with the Wifi tweak for battery life, it's not as long as I'd like, and the screen quality isn't that great when in portrait mode.
Maybe I just haven't found the right uses or apps for it...
-I don't commute much, and even when I do, I can't imagine any legitimate uses when offline (since I'm not using my phone as a hotspot on the go) since I don't read much, and I prefer watching videos and playing games at home on my computer
-I'll probably be getting rid of my car soon, so using it as a GPS/media player for it won't work
-When around the house, I prefer checking email and whatnot on my computer
I'd say the only real use I'd see out of it is if I were to get a laid-back security job where I could just bring it there and play around or something, but at that point I'd probably be more inclined to get a bigger tablet (maybe with a keyboard/dock, like the Transformer) since I wouldn't be too worried about having to fit it in my pocket.
So...any opinions/suggestions? More specifically, any app recommendations (preferably for Froyo) that I should look into (not necessarily ones from the Market)? The Honeycomb ROM was a bit too buggy for me (stuff not resizing properly, freezing/rebooting with certain apps, etc), I'd rather wait for an official Honeycomb.

Its all about personal preference. Don't care for notebooks... too unwealdy. I like something that fits in my hand but isn't tiny like my phone. I also have a gaming desktop so I'm covered there. I like the pad with honeystreak 2.0 for casual surfing and gaming when I'm chillin on the couch or in the car when I'm not driving.
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Why do you need someone else to convince you? Get your own opinion

It looks like you have everything you need. But yet you are not satisfy, strange isn't it. Looking to justify one more piece of electronic gadget.

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Why do you need someone else to convince you? Get your own opinion
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I'm just asking if anybody had any suggestions as to what I could do or any apps I should download that maybe I haven't thought of...jeez, sorry I asked.
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It looks like you have everything you need. But yet you are not satisfy, strange isn't it. Looking to justify one more piece of electronic gadget.
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Pretty much, I guess.

It sounds like you aren't in the market for a tablet. I don't think that any tablet would be a good fit for your needs.

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It sounds like you aren't in the market for a tablet. I don't think that any tablet would be a good fit for your needs.
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To be truthful, I don't have a need for the tablet either. Life was fine with my laptop. The only reason I got the Dell Streak 7, and this is my first tablet, is for casual web surfing and casual gaming. The 7 inch screen is perfect for this, the phone is too small and the 10 inch is too big for my taste.

I have found you can talk yourself into or out of anything. I have had mine 3 days and and already been on all 3 roms a couple more than once. I cant put mine down. Im a atay at home dad, own this,the 5, and an ipad and this is cool. Juat the right size. I read, watch movies, edited a document and played some fun tegra games like riptide. All for 200.00. Im very pleased
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Honestly I own 4 tablets I kept getting different ones expecting some other wonderful thing to happen but in reality. They are all the same.
I have a rooted cyanogen mod 7 nook color, a elocity a7 terga dual core,a dell streak 7, and a acer iconia a500. and you know what the high end iconia can do that the rooted nook color cant? NOTHING thats right any app you want torun or anything you want to do you can do on any android device period.
They all do the same internet, they all do the same apps,games, same face book,twitter. blah blah blah blah.
ONly differences in any of them is screen and speed. and to be honest my gloified nook color ereader turned tablet is just as fast as and terga dual core. sure i am sure you can get some extra frame rates or some other spec that in the real world no one notices to go a bit faster on a more expensive unit but who cares really.
I found the best deciding factor on tablets is size,(10 or 7) screen clarity, and battery life.
your either a 10 inch tablet person or a 7 inch one me im a 7 inch fan (lol no ego here). battery life again too alot of people make this into a big deal but as long as it runs till i go to bed who cares i just plug it in till morning and go again who needs a tablet to run for 7 days with out plugging it in anyway.
and for screen well thats all relative lets use the acer iconia and the transforer for example the transformer uses 16 million colors and a ips screen but its viewing angles suck. now the acer uses 165 thusand colors and jsut a regular screen but its viewing angles rock so is there a difference? the human eye only sees like 150k colors at one time anyway so whats the use of a 16 million color screen?
Long and short you need to be happy with what you buy. but you sound like I use to be it just kills you not to have or try everyone of them and no matter what one you get your gonna wish you had the other. I bet you go through phones like water too. my frinds are like that they cant stand to have a phone longer then a month and they are off getting another one.
But truth be told they all do the same thing really they do... the new 700 dollar droid does nothing the old first gen droid cant do it just does it faster is all so is it worth it?

Doesn't sound like a good fit for you. I say sell it on CL for what you paid. It could make someone's day. Someone who would lay a little love and appreciation on it.

if you want to unload it for $200 i'll take it off your hands. the streak 7 is why i joined, actually rejoined this forum

TABLETS: Useful gadgets or expensive toys?

I like tablets, they are beautiful, thin, light, their screens are great, people watch you with envy when you use one in a public place, etc. But I still didn´t buy one, just because I couldn´t find a place for them in my daily life. On the go I use my smartphone, and at home I use my laptop. They are not comfortable/powerful enough to substitute my laptop, and they are not light/portable enough to substitute my smartphone.
To tablet-owners: Do you find them useful or not?
If yes, in which situations?

I believe they are both!

I'd rather a smartphone than a tablet.

If I actually spent a week trying to use one as a daily driver I'd know, but from what I've read and heard, it's a expensive toy.
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Its both imo. But if I bought one, it would be as a toy

I use it for to view school papers all the time. With the highlight feature of Repligo Reader it makes it even better. oh and I have the $149 touchpad so it's actually really cheap.

16gb touchpad here. Paid 100. I love it. It's mainly a toy but I definitely could see more use of it than just a novelty.
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Well to me, I don't see the reason to buy a tablet as long as I have a smartphone even if it's a low-end one. Big screen doesn't mean anything to me!

I just got the Transformer Prime myself. It's a nice addition, but not necessary in the least bit. Kinda cool playing with ICS on it though.
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I'd say it ultimately depends on the phone you have and the tablet you get.
For example, if you've got a Samsung Note and then you get a 7" Galaxy Tab it may seem a little pointless, but if you've got something with a 3" screen that's only really good for calls, texts and basic email and browsing then a tablet would seem like a godsend.
I've got a Galaxy S2 and a 7" Galaxy Tab and it's a good combination. I use the phone heavily throughout the day for all sorts of communication stuff, but then put it down at home and use the tablet instead, which is obviously better for things like browsing and typing etc..

I use mine as a substitute for my laptop at work sometimes. I mostly edit Google docs and use a note pad app. Although, at my job even my laptop isn't a good substitute either. My boss uses LimoSys for the Limo reservations and that program SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKSSSS!!!!!!! Sigh.
But in general I love my GTab 10.1
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Honestly the current state of tablets and the OS they are more of an expensive toy. My main use for them had come in the form of a digital REAL BOOK and digital music stand. It saves lugging around all my music to gigs. If wasn't for this use though the tablet OS isn't very useful yet to replace my laptop yet if all I am able to use it for is a glorified e-reader.

tablet for me is more of laptop replacement because of its big screen size. and it always make me laugh to see someone using galaxy tab 7 as a phone

They are useful, but I would only buy one if you're not a gamer. Cause they do make great laptop replacements, but gaming is limited. I got one for christmas (which was an awesome gift btw), but I hardly ever use it. I always find myself running back to my laptop because im a gamer, but other than that it does all my other day to day tasks effortlessly. So I say only get it if you really don't need your laptop.

for the most part it's a toy, but ive gotten more and more productivity apps on it now to the point it is very close to a contender as a a laptop replacement

Toy... be honest how many times have you forced yourself to use a tablet or phone when a computer was right near you just because you want it to have a point.
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I use mine on weekends to keep the 3 year old entertained while we get in an extra 30 minutes sleep. So to me I say its a highly useful tool.

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Toy... be honest how many times have you forced yourself to use a tablet or phone when a computer was right near you just because you want it to have a point.
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I'm not always near a computer, so it's most definitely not a toy. It's the closest thing to a netbook that you can get, but most people would use a desktop PC over a netbook. Doesn't make that a toy though.
Besides, I've never dragged my PC into the bathroom just because I'm going to "sit down" for a while.

They have their ups and downs. I personally don't need one because I have a nice laptop and a decent phone. There is nothing that a tablet can offer me at this point.
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Lol, maybe you should try it... I can't say I have either but I also don't bring a tablet into the bathroom, its not like I need google navigation to get back to the living room ;P I personally have the 64GB ipad2 please don't rage at me for buying an apple tablet, its already enough of a pain to use it sometimes, I definitely prefer Android. But the stuff that I use it for like email and internet/YouTube I could just do on my phone, its not really worth dragging around a tablet for. I already drag around my laptop so i'd rather just use that.
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Thinking of getting the N7 as a main device and netbook replacement, anyone else?

I was thinking of purchasing the N7 to replace my netbook and be my only device (outside of my iPhone).
The only things I ever do on my netbook (my main computer) is surf the web, play emulators, watch netflix, and write papers on microsoft word for college.
I figure that with a bluetooth keyboard and a stand I could type my papers. I also thought that with a bluetooth wiimote + classic controller and GBA.emu I could play games to my hearts content. Lastly I hope that I could use an MHL adapter to play the emulators and Netflix on my big screen.
Anyone have thoughts on this or is going to do this as well? Am I nuts? Any problems you see me running into?

I don't see why you couldn't do any of those things other than using MHL which hasn't been confirmed yet (but, if it's not available, may be able to be hacked into working apparently). I know for a fact that as soon as I get my Nexus 7 I'll probably be using my laptop a lot less.

I would never replace a tablet with a laptop/netbook, I'd just use it to accommodate it.
I have a Chrome book 5 series by Samsung and it's SUPER nice for school. Battery life great and for school work its even better.
I'm buying this tab to help keep in touch with the cloud and also for my books. It's great for books if you're in college and for games. Not so much typing up stuff.
If you want the best of both worlds, I suggest buying a Chrome book from craigslist or something for 200-ish and this tab for another 200. Together, for 400 bucks, you're set for school till you graduate! And think about it, that's still cheaper than just an iPad... or half decent laptop.

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I was thinking of purchasing the N7 to replace my netbook and be my only device (outside of my iPhone).
The only things I ever do on my netbook (my main computer) is surf the web, play emulators, watch netflix, and write papers on microsoft word for college.
I figure that with a bluetooth keyboard and a stand I could type my papers. I also thought that with a bluetooth wiimote + classic controller and GBA.emu I could play games to my hearts content. Lastly I hope that I could use an MHL adapter to play the emulators and Netflix on my big screen.
Anyone have thoughts on this or is going to do this as well? Am I nuts? Any problems you see me running into?
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actually, i'm considering getting this for my dad for exactly this reason. all he ever does with his first generation windows 7 netbook is use Openoffice, gotomyPC (for work stuff), google drive, and google chrome. he's really wanted something more portable than his netbook and he loves his DX2, so i think that would be perfect for him.

This is going to replace my iPad 2 as my "always on me" ereader/tablet. The iPad is too big and heavy for long reading sessions, and frankly I want to be rid of my last i-device. This was just too good an opportunity to pass up.

That's what I did. About a week ago I sold my year old macbook air 13" for $1000 on craigslist and bought a samsung galaxy tab 2 7". Been loving it ever since! Now I've found out about the nexus 7 and I pre ordered the 16 gb model. I'm trying an experiment in our family with not having our own laptops and just using a tablet (wife's idea). Setting my wife set up the same way. We have 1 pc laptop that we'll share and use our tablets as our personal device. So far, it's been working out great for us. Seriously can't wait for the nexus 7 to arrive!

I already use my nook in lieu of a laptop -- my aging Core 2 Quad handles all the heavy lifting i need it to.

Try typing anything serious on a netbook. Even with my Transformer Prime, it's not fun to do, plus the major office suites (including several paid for versions I've tried) are really watered down. If you're planning on writing anything serious with it, adding graphics, etc, I'd seriously suggest keeping a laptop around for that at least, even if it's an old and/or basic one.
Especially since most tablet apps on Android are just stretched phone apps.

Currently, I use my Cr48 for all light tasks and it goes with me anywhere. Although it has been a stellar device and I do enjoy ChromeOS, its a bit underpowered for some multimedia tasks (i.e. watching Netflix). As my aging "OG" Evo phone also suffers from an even more apparent lack of power, my purchase of the N7 is more to replace the midsize "netbook-tier" device than anything else. I think it'll fit there perfectly.
My ThinkPad will remain the go-to "main device" for any heavy lifting tasks but, as the W520 is anything but portable, I need a more lightweight option!
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Almost
My Nexus 7 almost replaces my laptop. I was going to replace my Dell Inspiron 1525 with a netbook or a tablet. Since I am no longer on the road traveling, all I need is a living room device. My Nexus 7 works well for what it does. I love Google Now. It works well for looking up things my wife and I are discussing. The Chrome web browser works well but not good enough for bill paying and banking. Also printing does not work well with the older printer I have. I have a very nice Windows 7 desktop for anything serious. The Nexus 7 is a wonderful device as an edition to a digital household, but not a complete notebook replacement. I can say that I now read more books and the GPS is awesome.

2 days after I got my n7, my laptop passed away.
Can't say I've missed it much.
In some cases tho, it would be faster. For instance it's way faster ctrl+clicking a bunch of links compared to long-press+tap.

My tablet has become my main device. Of course I've been using a chromebook for the for quite a while as my main computer. Still needed for some Web work, but for the most part my new n7 will be my main device.
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HDMI is a sore loss. Nothing like PS3 Bluetooth controller playing classic games on the big screen. I would recommend the Samsung note 10".
Or wait till they get wifi sync setup.
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Ever since my Nexus arrived, i've severely neglected my laptop. Now, it just feels so damn heavy after just throwing my Nexus into my bag and being on my way for the past few weeks.
Safe to say, my Nexus7 has become my main device as well.

Anyone have a GNex, N7, and iPad?

I would try N7 in a heartbeat, if it weren't for already having the iPad3 alongside my GNex.
I was just wondering if anyone has all three and uses them all quite a bit?
The only time I could see myself really using all three is browsing N7 in bed while watching a movie on XBMC on iPad3.
But even then it seems like total overkill.

I have 4S, iPad 3 and now N7. The N7 is just easier to use for surfing and reading.
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I have an iPhone 4, the new iPad, GNex and Nexus 7. I still use the iPad at home, Nexus 7 has replaced my notepad at work and GNex is my primary phone for now.

I have an N7 and an iPad 3. I use the N7 for quick updates on email and such, along with ebook reading and gaming. I use the iPad for browsing, RSS feed reading, and video (particularly HBO Go). Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
If I was forced to choose just one, I'd choose the N7 if it had HBO Go. I think the 7" form factor is just better overall, for my uses at least.

Dang, you guys with iPhones and GNex surprise me as well though I'm impressed.
I sold my 4S a few days after I got my GNex.
I originally planned on SIM swapping phones when I pleased, but then I found my 4S collecting dust and it not feasible.

Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I love my GNex.
4S camera is unbeatable. And I had the 32GB model, but I sold it after unlocking it for enough to cover GNex and almost all of my upgrade if I choose to get the next iPhone on contract.
A new Nexus might come out/probably will, but after that price drop, I didn't want to be playing the waiting game. And I've never owned an Android before this.

I do
I have a retina iPad (still my favorite), Galaxy Nexus (it has pretty much become a glorified hotspot for my Nexus 7), iPhone 4s (my daily phone, but just barely as I go back and forth between my Galxy Nexus and iPhone 4s), and just got the Nexus 7 (I got the 8gb one as I use it primarily for an ereader and tinkering).
Like I said above my go to device is still my iPad. Thevisplay is about 90% of the reason. I mean the Nexus 7 has an ok display and it gets the job done but I expected better than my old ipad 2 as it has more pixel density and both are IPS, but I was way wrong. It is better than my former Transformer Prime by a country mile and way way way better than my Xoom. I really am sensitive to great displays though. For some it doesn't bother them, but for me I've been waiting years for the display tech we are now seeing and the iPhone and iPad retina displays are so far ahead of anything else out in my opinion it's almost hard to use anything else. I know it sounds stupid and lame but even months after getting my retina iPad at launch I still get that amazed feeling every time I pick it up and I really really notice the displays on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus especially when reading.
Anyways I would say if you got the cash pick a Nexus 7 up. It is the best $200 I've spent in a long time and I have no regrets except the severe lack of apps but I don't notice it as much as I did on my Prime or Xoom I think that's due to phone apps (like twitter) look much better on the Nexus 7 than a 10 inch display. If you have any other questions let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.

Second that, best 200 spent in some time. N7 is just refreshing!
Which you prefer, 4s or gnex overall?
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yeah i'd be hard pressed to give up my ipad 3 also. I love it and it satisfies my iOS cravings. After all, iOS was apparently originally designed for a tablet in its development before being launched on iPhone (back when it was iPhone OS)
I also swapped it way too many times to get one that had an acceptable QC screen, BEAUTIFUL display, without a pink hot corner, or multiple colored tints, or weird contrast. No way I'd give this one up easily. Even when an iPad "4" or whatever comes out.
Even with Color Profile jailbreak app to tweak it can't hide a defective screen. Meanwhile, the one and only iPad3 my parents bought is perfect as well (I have a knack for this thing).
4S screen is definitely technically superior to AMOLED and brighter, but I don't care. I pick up my parents' iPhones and I wonder how I went 3.5" so long without complaint. the 4.65" (and maybe I got a great screen too whereas others did not) makes browsing enjoyable again on the go.
I am still "open" as to which phone I will purchase next. But I'm so much more pleased with my Nexus than I could have ever anticipated.
I should also add I've had every generation iPhone (traded my 4 and cash for a 4S back in January before I sold it a few weeks ago) and without jailbreak, I think I would have tried out Android much sooner. Stock iPhones bother me a lot. They're too limiting. I was even going to hold onto my 4 indefinitely over 4S until I started seeing that developers were close to wrapping up the iOS5/A5 exploit on 5.0.1 (and later 5.1.1)

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Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.

I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
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angermeans said:
I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
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Thanks, good feedback!
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.

For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
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No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.

Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.

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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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It sounds like we are almost opposite. Ive been on Android for years and felt that I had left iOS for good. I even tortured myself by trying to talk myself into thinking that Android tablets where better than iPads and purchased the horrible Xoom and buggy Transformer Prime. I find myself in a weird spot with Android right now. Its hard to put my finger on it, really. I started out with the Nexus One after owning every iPhone up to the 3Gs and I was so bored with iOS. The Nexus One is still to this day my favorite device I've ever owned. I even find myself sometimes looking for a great deal on one just to have it. I have a bunch of phones lying around and I still can't see why I ever sold it. I think it was because it was an ATT one and I was even more sick of ATT then I was the 3Gs and I got a great job at Verizon Wireless (still work there now in fact). I keep all my devices in pristine condition and I hope I dont jinx myself, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've dropped a device. Anyways me being bored and getting into a great new world in Android (the early days were great and Android is a whole different beast now) and also going to school and learning to code it felt like I would always have an Android device. I loved the openness, tinkering was great, and the community was even better. I mean I kept my Macbook and have even had a couple since then. I cant stand Windows (although I loved my HTC Trophy and WP7, go figure. Also XBOX 360 is still the best console ever IMHO) and I love Mac OS X. I guess the only thing I can think of that happened was the many many many skinned Android devices I've owned since my Nexus One and the many problems that came with them. I must have owned a dozen or so and if it came out on Verizon and was a high end device I probably owned it the last two and a half years. I had no desire to go back to the iPhone for the same reasons you mentioned above. The small screen and lack of LTE was the main ones.
Anyways the last year and a half has been real annoying on the Android front at least for me. You can chalk that up to what I mentioned above. The always waiting for updates (even thought the first thing I do is root and flash a ROM), the extreme lack of apps (even though I really didnt notice this until getting the retina iPad), the lagginess you get on an Android phone, and worst of all the bastardization of OEM skinned devices by their creators. What I mean was you would get maybe one update and it was on average 6-8 months too late, always had a million bugs, and by the time it launched you still are an Android version behind. Mostly this aggravating feeling I have of Android came from 3 devices. The HTC TBolt, Motorola Xoom (and Motorola Droid X and Droid 2, but Ill leave those out as I only kept them for less than a month before I couldnt take Blur anymore), and the Transformer Prime. Those devices and especially Honeycomb killed my love of Android. Well, those and Verizon not having a Nexus branded device (Im sorry I wont ever call the Xoom a Nexus device or even a Google Experience Device. Waiting 9 months for a promised 4G update, lack of SD card that works, months of waiting for ICS, and worst of all the horrible display. Its still the only device that gave me migraines on a regular basis).
I've always loved a high pixel density display. Its the main reason I left the 3Gs for the Nexus One, the reason I got the Xoom over the iPad2 (even though the Xoom had more pixel density it was no where near the quality display that Apple used on its iPad), and the main reason (paired with my new found hate of Android tablets after the Xoom and Prime) that I finally dumped Android for iOS when the retina iPad came out. I figured I could deal with iOS for the high pixel density display. What I found shocked the hell out of me. The iOS I left on the 3Gs was no where near the iOS on the retina iPad. Like you said in your post iOS is gorgeous and works great on the iPad. The iPhone is a little cramped and iOS def feels that it was designed to originally come on the iPad and not the iPhone. I love the apps, the display was the best I've ever used on any device, it was extremely fluid, and most of all it did not feel like I was using a tablet. What I mean is I always fought with using my Xoom and Prime. It felt as if I was scratching my fingers down a chalkboard whenever I swiped through screens (btw this is no where near the feeling i get on the Nexus 7). The iPad never fought with me it just got out of the way and gave me my content. It is genious and I still cannot see exactly what it is, but this is the best I can describe it.
Anyways, before the iPad I dumped my Tbolt for the HTC Trophy and waited for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I used that and loved it. I still do. It is a completely different device and pure Google is the only way to go in my opinion and I dont forsee myself going back to a skinned device at least not how OEMs are treating them anyways. After my new iPad I decided to get an iPhone (I have always had two devices as I use my main device for personal things and my secondary for a side business I run with my brother and I didnt want customers having my personal line. I dont usually bring both with me every day except now). The iPhone was great and a good change, but Siri is the main reason I use it (and the other reasons I posted above).
Sorry this is so long. I dont blame ya if you dont read it lol. Have a great night and like I said if your still on the fence about the N7 just get it you wont regret it.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I am glad we had a chance to converse as well (even though I am sure that most others on this thread are bored lol). Its interesting to me as we are almost exactly opposite. Your coming from primarily iOS to Google's Android (dont even bother yourself with the skinned kind its no where near the same and will only frusterate you) and I'm coming from all Android to iOS. Whats more interesting is finding someone that is open to both sides of the fence. You dont find that often, but I wish others would try something before bashing an OS because of their love for another OS. You really miss out on some great tech and it took me going from one to the other to find that out.
Both OS have very great features and I wish I could just have one device that had all features, but we all know without competition neither Android or iOS would be what they are today. I'm kind of in dangerous territory right now as like I said I am heavily invested in both OS's. I really couldnt ever completely get rid of Android as I would miss the native Gmail application and especially the Google Maps. I havent really mentioned that, but your right it really is Android's killer feature and even though Apple is on the horizon of launching their own turn-by-turn solution I have doubts that it will be anywhere as good as Google Maps.
The main reason I use both devices right now is because I feel like I have to. The Nexus 7 has helped in that a little, but I need the LTE and the my Nexus' hotspot. I cant go back to 3G. It doesnt bother me a whole lot on the iPhone, but on my iPad or Nexus 7 I just feel like I have to have it. I know there are more less costly and convenient options than taking both the 4s for its phone, texting, music, siri, etc and my Nexus for Gmail, Google Maps, LTE, bigger display, rooting/roms, tinkering, openness, etc, but until a better solution comes a long I'm going to have to do just that. Also, like I said I do need both phones as I dont want to mix personal with business as that doesnt work too well especially when working full time and going to school 3/4 time, and then having a secondary business we run (even though the latter is suffering as I just dont have the time). All I know is that I am driving my wife completely nuts with all these devices lol.
Have a good night like I said its been interesting chatting with ya. Its rare to find someone on XDA that is even open to hearing about iOS even with the popularity of the iPad. I just hope that popularity brings more open people that arent so devoted to one brand that they completely refuse to listen to anything without feeling like they have to defend their phone or tablet choice to the death.
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"The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about."
I completely noticed I didnt even mention your concern about the above. This is exactly my only real problem with the Nexus 7. On my iPad I honestly dont have any iPhone apps on it only tablet optimized applications and on Android you just cant do that. The 7 inch form factor really makes this much easier to deal with. Even apps that are made for Android phones seem to work really well on the Nexus 7. There is still the lack of applications to deal with, but if you are like me you will most likely use your iPad for most applications anyway especially considering you can only get a measly 8 or 16gb on the Nexus 7. My justification of getting the N7 when I really cannot find a single fault with my iPad was that I read a lot and it is difficult reading on the iPad. Its heavy, awkward, and I just found myself not doing it or using a book instead. It was a little depressing as one of the main reasons I got an iPad was for reading. The Nexus 7 completely fills this void. It is lite and perfect for reading and is about the size of a smaller paperback book. The resolution is good enough not to bother you or give me headaches and it hard to put your finger on it, but it just feels right. I really like the seven inch form factor and I have found usages that I never even thought I would use. I loaded it up with emulators and it is perfect for those and about the only thing I really missed on my Xoom and Prime. Also I still have my OTG micro usb to USB cable I bought for my Xoom (I knew I kept it for a reason) and I can use it to hook up a PS3 controller to it and map the keys for emulators. It is great. One more thing I noticed as well. Loving my iPad means that I take it with me everywhere including work. I was always worried about dropping it or getting it stolen and it is kind of expensive. The Nexus 7 on the other hand is small (even fits in my back pocket or cargo shorts), easy to carry, and best of all is cheap enough that if I lost it or it was stolen I could recoup my losses and/or get me another one. Sure there are times at work on break or something that I wish I had my iPad, but the Nexus 7 does its job so well I often dont really care. I also rely heavily on a few apps like Dropbox, Twitter, and especially Evernote and the 7 inch form factor works excellent for all three and I am in sync with my iPad, Nexus 7, Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S, and Galaxy Nexus no matter where I am. Do yourself a favor and order one you wont regret it.

Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
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Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.
Nexus 7 so far looking good.