[Q] Not receiving SMS - Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh

Hey guys, i have a pretty serious problem with SMS messaging. It seems like my Milestone refuses to receive SMS messages. I've been using FroyoMOD and now i have Cyanogen 7 RC3 from kabaldan. With both of them i've experienced this issue. And it's always the same.. after like a month or so from when i flash the ROM..it's happening again. It's really annoying and people are yelling at me for ignoring them So, if anybody knows what's the deal or has experienced the same issue.. i'll be more than glad if you had any suggestions. For now i pretty much think it might be something like kernel-related or whatever.. i don't really know
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.

install advanced task killer, open the sms app, go to advance task killer and uncheck the sms app...with this setting you can receive sms...

forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.

Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.

Is your data memory low?
there is a bug when getting lower than ~20mb of free memory,
(last time I ran in that problem was in 2.1, so i'm not sure if releavent to 2.2 and up)

Yes, it's quite low and can possibly be below 20mb at some times. When I look at it it's usually around 30 Mb. I can get more free memory by adjusting the memory manager settings, but that only means it kills background apps even more agressively, or so I understand it.

Astrowe said:
forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.
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Handcent seems impossible to run even on stock telus froyo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12675946&postcount=13
I'm going to reinstall it and test with minfree values of 6, 8, 26, 16, 16, 32.
Hancent is always in the 4th or 5th slot so maybe that will work.

well i just flashed latest MIUI, sent sms to my number and received it.. i think i had SuperCharged minfree from you zeppelinrox. well i guess it's always the same: i flash new ROM, it works and after some time it stops. what the hell.. the thing is i never used stock messaging app, that might be the cause.

I use supercharge script with aggressive 2...moreover i use advance task killer...i didn't lose any sms...before that sometimes I didnt receive any sms...you have to unselect your app for sms(stock one, handcent, chompsms)...I use stock sms app and everything is working...

Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

yosriz said:
Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
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You're right. I got you wrong. I've got plenty of application memory. I've had low applications data memory a few month ago and it took me days to realize taht this causes the phone not to receive any sms. But as soon as you free up memory all SMS seem to be coming through.

mike-08 said:
Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.
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by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?

by the way, just got another problem... seems like everytime i flash MIUI ROM (and maybe any other ROM, idk) and recover my messages from backup with SMS Backup & Restore, the phone sends out by itself like 5 messages always to the same people. It happened like 3 times so far.. and it's pretty much possible that i flashed it 3 times.. but i think that might be more like the sms backup-related issue. The 5 msgs seem to have something like hasn't-been-sent-yet flag or whatever.. seriously, i just feel like throwing the phone out the window right now.

Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.

yosriz said:
Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.
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i think so too.. gotta change my backup habbits i guess
thanks for the tip.. i used SMS Backup by Christoph Studer to backup my sms to gmail.. didn't know that there is also something that can restore the sms from gmail.

yosriz said:
by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?
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Is used the Debuger from the Android SDK. When you connect your phone to the computer you can log almost everything with it in realtime.
Btw. I've just migrated to MIUI to try if SMS arrive here more reliably. But I'm not yet sure I like the user interface. It's rather different from CM7.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.

yosriz said:
Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.
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You need to install the Android SDK from Google. Since you know adb I guess you allready have it. In the SDK there's a file called ddms.bat. That starts the debugger.

Same stuff here...
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
You may view my post here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112009
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.

Possible solution
Ricfil said:
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.
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well i have an observation. after i stopped using all sms backup apps, the problem is gone. and by sms backup app i mean those that backup to gmail, not to sdcard. if you have an app that checks for new sms's and automatically backes them up, then get rid of it.. if you need an one time backup, use SMS Backup & Restore.
like i said, getting rid of automatic sms backup apps did the trick for me.

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What SMS app do you use.

I was wondering what Messaging app you guys use, Chomp SMS, Handcent SMS, the regular default Messaging, or an other. I'm interested in your feedback in what one you all use and what you think of the others.
i wish there was a hero messaging port, i really like how that looks, most of the time i just use the default one though
Ive Both, and they got very erritating to me in different ways after a period of time..
Chomp - When I used it, slowed down my phone unbelievably. After close to wanting to exterminate my phone, I uninstalled it.
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
-So I just use The Default Messaging service now. lol
Thats just some insight on my experience on other applications. ;]
Default (well, default from cyanogen rom) with SMS popup.
volcomdesigns said:
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
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You can change the settings in the menu so that
a) It doesnt light up your screen, or
b) It doesn't show the contents of your message in the pop up, or both of the above
or c) It doesn't pop up at all
It's very customizable
sms popup ftw
I WAS using ChompSMS until last night, switched over to Handcent SMS to give it a try. Never looked back.
I love it beacuse of the timestamp option that ChompSMS doesn't have.
volcomdesigns said:
Ive Both, and they got very erritating to me in different ways after a period of time..
Chomp - When I used it, slowed down my phone unbelievably. After close to wanting to exterminate my phone, I uninstalled it.
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
-So I just use The Default Messaging service now. lol
Thats just some insight on my experience on other applications. ;]
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Same here lol
Where's the option for "None of the above because SMS is an overpriced and underfeatured relic of the nineties"?
/\ /\ = weirdo.
Handcent.
Used Chomp for 2 months. Individual text tones for contacts was great.
Once Handcent updated with this never looked back.
Chomps create "new message" is bigger and easier to use. But Handcent custimozation is superb.
Handcent all the way. There is no reason to use any other app (besides default, if its just your preference). Handcent has EVERY feature a SMS app could ask for, at least for any app on the market, no point in Chomp SMS.
Personally I really don't have any speed problems with Handcent, but for real...every setting you could want, handcent has, plus its constantly updated and new features are added.
I used to use Chomp, but I am tired of apps that look like iPhone apps (Handcent included).
Now I use the default app and SMS PopUp on Droid. What I really want is something that looks like the default app, splits messages over 160chars, has a time stamp and has the ability to send texts to groups.
That would be perfect.
jashsu said:
Where's the option for "None of the above because SMS is an overpriced and underfeatured relic of the nineties"?
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i think that might fall into the "other" category.
for me it depends. i had used handcent since i got my phone, but then at one point it started having problems with recieving messages but not keeping them(and somehow they didnt stay in the default messaging app either!). so i was losing messages, unacceptable. i went back to default. default(on cm of course) truely is the best of all of them, its just very plain and the least flashy and minimal functionality. but otherwise still always has been the most reliable. so i got stuff like sms pop up for a while and other options. but i saw handcent got updates so a couple weeks later i came back to it and i love it again
i tried chomp. i do not see why anybody would ever choose chomp over handcent. maybe possibly over the default, but better than handcent? ridiculous!
i'd like to know some of the settings or maybe screenshots you guys have of your handcents since its so customizable
l_0_s said:
I used to use Chomp, but I am tired of apps that look like iPhone apps (Handcent included).
Now I use the default app and SMS PopUp on Droid. What I really want is something that looks like the default app, splits messages over 160chars, has a time stamp and has the ability to send texts to groups.
That would be perfect.
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and handcent does every single one of those options....
to me, it seemed like handcent was too cluttered. yes, there were an amazing amount of features, but it took so long for me to actually get something i liked that it wasn't worth doing it every time i flashed a new rom. chomp is for me
grandomegabosses said:
to me, it seemed like handcent was too cluttered. yes, there were an amazing amount of features, but it took so long for me to actually get something i liked that it wasn't worth doing it every time i flashed a new rom. chomp is for me
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i totally feel you there, ive been begging the dev to make a backup settings option for a while now, idk why he doesnt.
tehseano said:
i totally feel you there, ive been begging the dev to make a backup settings option for a while now, idk why he doesnt.
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i have been considering trying handcent again. it's been a while since i last used it. i think i might give it another shot again soon. as long as i get those texts out, i don't really care what client i use.
tehseano said:
and handcent does every single one of those options....
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Well, except it looks like a converted iPhone app.
l_0_s said:
Well, except it looks like a converted iPhone app.
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How so? You can make it look just like the default Android:
Menu > Settings > Conversation Style > Android
I think he means the style of the general interface...I choose Chomp over Handcent because it feels less cluttered (especially the popup).
If the default app had a BIT more flair to it I'd be all for it...also I don't know why android doesn't have a mass sms feature even yet...that's just ridiculous.

SMS Backup:

Is anyone else unable to use this on the latest couple of CM builds?
It seems to always force close on me, going to try to get a log and maybe pass it on to the developer of the backup application...
One of my main reasons for not switching builds is because the lack of being able to backup and restore my sms.
I use sms backup and restore.
Works great.
Really great.
5,000 texts backed up to my sd card.
When I want to backup more sms they add to the data file or making more files in the folder.
and I've restored all my texts to three different builds now.
Last back up I did was on a new Dwang build, and for 4k and some odd hundred texts took about 34 minutes to restore in my inbox but it did perfectly.
the author of sms backup is aware of the issue. he's working on it.
bengrulz said:
the author of sms backup is aware of the issue. he's working on it.
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Oh sweet, that's excellent - thanks for the heads up. : )
I'm looking into it as well. I'm not sure what broke it yet.
Just found the issue #50 in the google code page. Looking forward to seeing it fixed, one of the most useful (even if never used) features.
Being able to do a quick Google search on your sms messages is phenomenal. = )
I was having the same issue so I was about to contact with the dev but checked here first. Thanks for the advise!
The developer does not run CM, and as such is having a hard time replicating the problem, or getting enough information to figure out how to fix it.
SMSBackup is a must for me, as much as I text. When it broke, I started looking for alternatives.
XArchive is a similar app (based on the same source originally, I think), and it works fine on the latest CM builds. It's a pay app, but it works, so I bought it. No problems. I just couldn't wait for the free app to be fixed.
there is small fix here, works for me:
http://code.google.com/p/android-sms/issues/detail?id=50
An update was pushed today and the issue is now fixed! All is right with the world again!
Did everyone get up and running again with the latest update (1.1.1)? Because I'm still getting FCs, on 4.2.7.1 and 4.2.8, despite uninstalls and a wipe of the phone before 4.2.7.1.
Seriously bummed here, that's one of my favorite apps...
Ugh - of all the things I tried, I missed the most obvious... The folder name is case sensitive. D'oh!

I think my phone is bugged, any help?

Yes this is the development thread, and all I really have is a problem, but I think it's something only solvable by you devs.
My phones sms has been completely Effing up lately.
I will get the notification up in the bar, and I can pull that down and read into the message, but if I open Handcent or the default app the text won't show up and will not be there.
So reasonably I stopped using Handcent, and Message widget and all sorts or things like that, wiped my phone, cleared the partition, flashed a new rom. Different firmwares [1.6 and the new open eclair]
But nothing really seems to help or work, apparenlty mms has been failing a lot which I know is more so on Tmobile's end then it is my phone but idk whats up, tonight I get this new Android notification
"com.android.mms a large number of sms messages are being send. select "ok" to continue of "cancel" to stop sending"
whenever I hit send, I haven't yet rebooted to see if it persists but it's a pain.
Is there any device log or collection I can submit so someone can look into it, possibly a bug? Virus? Somethin' stupid like that?
Thanks.
p.s. and my inbox isn't full or anything ridiculous like 1000+ messages, I've got about less than 50 currently, and when I said stopped using Handcent and MessageWidget, I mean uninstalled.
This happened to me on rare occasions while I was using Handcent. But it doesn't happen when I use the default messaging app. So I assumed it was due to handcent. Not quite sure why you're getting the other problems though... =/
This happened to me as well when I changed to a 2.1 rom. I chose to go back to Dwangs 1.6 rom until the 2.1 roms have been completely stable.
Hey try using ChompSMS. I think its better than Handcent SMS
Icebergxx said:
But nothing really seems to help or work, apparenlty mms has been failing a lot which I know is more so on Tmobile's end then it is my phone but idk whats up, tonight I get this new Android notification
"com.android.mms a large number of sms messages are being send. select "ok" to continue of "cancel" to stop sending"
whenever I hit send, I haven't yet rebooted to see if it persists but it's a pain.
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That doesn't sound good at all.
Have you checked with t-mobile to see if you are sending a stupid amount of text messages? It could be someone is sending spam messages via your phone or something. It could explain why you are unable to receive messages.
I think you are from the government, trying to find out whom on here knows how to subvert there android espionage. I for one will state to you officer, that I know nothing about this, and am stupid to the whole concept of bugs.
PS Do not try to trace my post, as both me and my computer are wearing tinfoil hats (with the shiny side out).
In all reality, one trick I learned as a teenager to check if your phone may be bugged, is to find an old business that still uses a switchboard phone system (this was hard in the early 90's, and may be impossible now) and phone them. If your phone was bugged, then they would see two lines coming in as one and become quite confused.
Whoa guys, by "bugged" I meant viruses not I'm being spied on haha.
It's occured on the 2.1 build Open Eclair
and a Cyan 1.6 build.
With and without using alternative applications for messaging.
I got sick and tired of it so I decided to go back to my most solid rom I've ever used.
A Soul Life 1.5 build, and I haven't had any troubles yet.
When I preformed the nandroid backup however it still tried to act like my sd card was partitioned and the market was buggy for a few but the cache is cleared up and it's all good now.
Icebergxx said:
viruses
It's occured on the 2.1 build Open Eclair
and a Cyan 1.6 build.
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Run for the hills it's the linux virus! Disperse!

[Q] Apps closing instead of running in background

I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
Same problem here 2.3.5 jvs
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eresac said:
I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
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I've only experienced this with games, I think it might be because apps/games are not optimized for Gingerbread
Well it seems I'm not alone.
Any suggestion is welcome.
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
BHuvan goyal said:
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
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You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
eresac said:
You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
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Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
upichie said:
Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
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Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
eresac said:
Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
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There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
upichie said:
There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
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This means that Froyo is better in memory usage, at least for the SGS, I guess.
I simply didn't take care about that when decided to upgrade, thinking "SGS is powerful enough". Think I'll have to investigate.
Anyway thanks for all your support.

WhatsApp& Hangouts Notification problem...

Dear xda users,
I have quiet some time a problem getting notification message in whatsapp and hangouts (even in the previously version on Google talk).
When i clear all apps with Task Manager. Exit to home screen. meaning, Whatsapp is not running in the background, I get no pushed messages, no notifications. Nothing at all.
I then launch the app and get all my "missed" message ,then exit back to the home screen and now I see the messages and notifications.
The same thing happen when the screen is off,actually it seem it start there.
I have no limitation on the background apps,surf only with 3g and it is happen also with hangouts,it is started a few months back before google update her app,in the old Google talk also.
The most strange thing is when i launch a game,because it uses the internet when i exit from it and not clear my task manger it seems like whatsapp and hangout getting the message for day or two and there again nothing,maybe i imagine i really do not know
My phone model is i9305 with official Samsung Nordic Rom.
i used avast anti virus until couple days ago.
By the way whatsapp+ that i saw here recently could help me in any way?
I really appreciate your help. :good:
want to clear it one and for all to enjoy my phone.
Thanks in advance,
David
Hi David,
you kinda answered yourself, the problem is with the task manager. I suggest reading the following:
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Chris Hoffman can explain better than me
BTW it's also says directly on whatsapp that it will not work well with task managers.
Cheers
Dear eytan123,
Thank you for your replay,I want to clarify myself and tell you that i do not use any external task manger,but only the built in one in jellybean.
In addition even when i do not "clear" my ram it still no working,i also compare it to others galaxy 3-i9300&i9305 that use and clear the ram with the built in task manager and still not suffer from this Phenomenon.
I guess Samsung keeps this app because it lets inexperienced users(unlike you and myself, or for that matter anyone in XDA ) the feeling that they can upgrade their performance...anyhow - It's strongly suggested that you don't activate\use ANY task killer.
Why not trying the suggested method for a couple of days? I'm sure your results will be much better
Thanks again for trying to help,but i already try this couple of times before open this thread.
Unfortunately not a single method that i tried was useful to me.
like to hear if you have another idea
upp
bumping a thread more than once every 24 hours is against the rules. don't post until you read them
Just noticed you asked about the whatsapp+ - it's not supposed to make things any better, only customizations. And you said the problem persists at the new hangouts.
If you're certain that your internet connection(cellular of course) is working good, before I suggest wiping and re-flashing or trying another rom I suggestthat you use the following app(it increases battery usage in a VERY MINOR way):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbmRxbGltYXgucHVzaGZpeGVyIl0.
Try clear data
Make sure sync is on
Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk 2
Hi,
Thanks eytan123 but this app that you gave me it is just for rooted phones,i do not want to root my phone in this moment,about the rom,it is the same problem that i experienced in my previous official rom.
Still glad to hear about this app for future notice
Thanks hello5629,if you mean to clear app data i already try this also
You wanna tell me that only my phone suffer this problem?
Just making sure - have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the apps ?
yep,several times..
Well I guess that leaves you with factory reset your phone.
But since your'e not rooted keep in mind you'll lose all your apps..
ya i know,i do not really want to do it,i think i will open a thread in general android forum,maybe there when it is not only i9305 community,maybe some will have the answer.
Thanks again for your effort

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