[Q] Apps closing instead of running in background - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.

Same problem here 2.3.5 jvs
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eresac said:
I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
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I've only experienced this with games, I think it might be because apps/games are not optimized for Gingerbread

Well it seems I'm not alone.
Any suggestion is welcome.

Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)

BHuvan goyal said:
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
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You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...

eresac said:
You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
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Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.

upichie said:
Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
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Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.

eresac said:
Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
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There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.

upichie said:
There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
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This means that Froyo is better in memory usage, at least for the SGS, I guess.
I simply didn't take care about that when decided to upgrade, thinking "SGS is powerful enough". Think I'll have to investigate.
Anyway thanks for all your support.

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[Q] Some questions about CM7

Hi all,
With CM7 i'm enjoying my Milestone like never before. But since it's my first custom ROM, i have some questions though.
1. When returning to the home screen, 9 out of 10 times it reloads and rebuilds completely. How can i avoid this?
2. If it's a memory issue and i want to keep it in memory, how can i accomplish this without the risk of losing other essential apps from memory, like SMS and phone?
3. I read something about priorities for apps, how does this work?
4. Sometimes my device reboots randomly. My CPU is set to 900. Can this be the cause? If so, what's the best CPU speed setting?
So far for now, but i guess i'll be back with some more ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Gerard
The Netherlands
I'm no expert so someone please correct me if i'm wrong and sorry for all spelling errors.
What version of CM7 are you running? If u'r running RC3 0.08-11.03.16 that homescreen Redraw (problem number 1) should be minor, something like 1 out of 10 times, atleast on my milestone. There is "Keep home in memory" setting in Cyanogenmod settings -> Performance, make sure it's enabled and for the problem number 2 enable "Keep SMS in memory". You shouldn't care much about app priorities cause CM7 memory management is taking care of that pretty well. Random reboot are DSI errors, they are minor in the newest CM7 version but there is no failsafe way to avoid them, if you don't want to chance the kernel, you can read about that in CM7 for milestone thread.
Thanks, i just can't find the "keep SMS in memory" option?
Then you probably won't have the newest version of CM7. You can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941346 and flash it just like u flashed it at the first time. Just wipe cache and dalvik cache from open recovery and you will get to keep all your personal settings and files/apps.
That's the one i have and i already found it. But thanks again!
twixyz said:
Hi all,
With CM7 i'm enjoying my Milestone like never before. But since it's my first custom ROM, i have some questions though.
1. When returning to the home screen, 9 out of 10 times it reloads and rebuilds completely. How can i avoid this?
2. If it's a memory issue and i want to keep it in memory, how can i accomplish this without the risk of losing other essential apps from memory, like SMS and phone?
3. I read something about priorities for apps, how does this work?
4. Sometimes my device reboots randomly. My CPU is set to 900. Can this be the cause? If so, what's the best CPU speed setting?
So far for now, but i guess i'll be back with some more ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Gerard
The Netherlands
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A few answers of my own:
1) The CPU speed is probably NOT the cause of your reboots, but if you want to be sure, try it for a week. 700 is safer, 550 is default.
2) If it is your CPU overclocking, you may be able to fix it by upping the voltage on your overclock. This will lead to a bit more heat and a bit more battery drain, but should fix the reboots if CPU related
3) I would look at the SUPERCHARGE your Milestone thread about memory management settings. Although Zepps's settings and scripts are meant for tweakers and are probably a tad aggressive if you don't know what you are doing, they did speed up my phone by 200%.
I would recommend installing AutoMemoryManager and using the mild settings if you want to do something less aggressive than the Supercharge scripts...
You will get some of the benefits of the supercharge and a very low risk of apps getting killed by the memory manager.
My 2 cents!
thanks caz.
I'm pretty sure the new minfree settings that I've been testing out are the best of both worlds... superfast and background friendly.
I hadnt had a chance to update the thread yet and post the new script.
But for those interested, this should really work great... 6, 8, 24, 26, 28, 30.
Thanks all, i'll look into those things. By reading that is, because i've got a lot to learn!
Hi all,
I'm still experimenting and impressed by this ROM. Just now I performed a fix permissions to prevent apps from fc. That modified the read & write permissions of all apps. I assumed it couldn't hurt to try, but now I'm wondering what it did exactly. There aren't any noticable changes. Can anyone fill me in?
Thanks,
Gerard
Do you think that is better than FroyoMod??
Lapiduss said:
Do you think that is better than FroyoMod??
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I'm not sure what you mean, but this is my first custom ROM coming from stock Eclair on my first Android device.
So I have no idea which is the best, but I do know that I'm very impressed by CM7. It runs perfectly on my Milestone, so I feel no need whatsoever to try another.
Yup, for sure
twixyz said:
I'm not sure what you mean, but this is my first custom ROM coming from stock Eclair on my first Android device.
So I have no idea which is the best, but I do know that I'm very impressed by CM7. It runs perfectly on my Milestone, so I feel no need whatsoever to try another.
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Can you tell me if the camera & video work well?
My 2 bigs problem with froyomod are the camera that often FC and freeze and the video that are stuttering so much..
I can move to CM7 only if I'm sure that this stuff work well!
Lapiduss said:
Can you tell me if the camera & video work well?
My 2 bigs problem with froyomod are the camera that often FC and freeze and the video that are stuttering so much..
I can move to CM7 only if I'm sure that this stuff work well!
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I can only speak for myself, but I haven't had one single problem so far. Shooting pictures and videos works fluently on my device. I am also not aware of any possible known problems, but maybe others can confirm this.
ADW Launcher in CM7 RC4.1
Started new thread for a specific question, but i can't delete this post.

[Q] Not receiving SMS

Hey guys, i have a pretty serious problem with SMS messaging. It seems like my Milestone refuses to receive SMS messages. I've been using FroyoMOD and now i have Cyanogen 7 RC3 from kabaldan. With both of them i've experienced this issue. And it's always the same.. after like a month or so from when i flash the ROM..it's happening again. It's really annoying and people are yelling at me for ignoring them So, if anybody knows what's the deal or has experienced the same issue.. i'll be more than glad if you had any suggestions. For now i pretty much think it might be something like kernel-related or whatever.. i don't really know
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.
install advanced task killer, open the sms app, go to advance task killer and uncheck the sms app...with this setting you can receive sms...
forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.
Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.
Is your data memory low?
there is a bug when getting lower than ~20mb of free memory,
(last time I ran in that problem was in 2.1, so i'm not sure if releavent to 2.2 and up)
Yes, it's quite low and can possibly be below 20mb at some times. When I look at it it's usually around 30 Mb. I can get more free memory by adjusting the memory manager settings, but that only means it kills background apps even more agressively, or so I understand it.
Astrowe said:
forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.
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Handcent seems impossible to run even on stock telus froyo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12675946&postcount=13
I'm going to reinstall it and test with minfree values of 6, 8, 26, 16, 16, 32.
Hancent is always in the 4th or 5th slot so maybe that will work.
well i just flashed latest MIUI, sent sms to my number and received it.. i think i had SuperCharged minfree from you zeppelinrox. well i guess it's always the same: i flash new ROM, it works and after some time it stops. what the hell.. the thing is i never used stock messaging app, that might be the cause.
I use supercharge script with aggressive 2...moreover i use advance task killer...i didn't lose any sms...before that sometimes I didnt receive any sms...you have to unselect your app for sms(stock one, handcent, chompsms)...I use stock sms app and everything is working...
Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
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yosriz said:
Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
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You're right. I got you wrong. I've got plenty of application memory. I've had low applications data memory a few month ago and it took me days to realize taht this causes the phone not to receive any sms. But as soon as you free up memory all SMS seem to be coming through.
mike-08 said:
Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.
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by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?
by the way, just got another problem... seems like everytime i flash MIUI ROM (and maybe any other ROM, idk) and recover my messages from backup with SMS Backup & Restore, the phone sends out by itself like 5 messages always to the same people. It happened like 3 times so far.. and it's pretty much possible that i flashed it 3 times.. but i think that might be more like the sms backup-related issue. The 5 msgs seem to have something like hasn't-been-sent-yet flag or whatever.. seriously, i just feel like throwing the phone out the window right now.
Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.
yosriz said:
Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.
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i think so too.. gotta change my backup habbits i guess
thanks for the tip.. i used SMS Backup by Christoph Studer to backup my sms to gmail.. didn't know that there is also something that can restore the sms from gmail.
yosriz said:
by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?
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Is used the Debuger from the Android SDK. When you connect your phone to the computer you can log almost everything with it in realtime.
Btw. I've just migrated to MIUI to try if SMS arrive here more reliably. But I'm not yet sure I like the user interface. It's rather different from CM7.
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Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.
yosriz said:
Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.
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You need to install the Android SDK from Google. Since you know adb I guess you allready have it. In the SDK there's a file called ddms.bat. That starts the debugger.
Same stuff here...
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
You may view my post here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112009
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.
Possible solution
Ricfil said:
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.
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well i have an observation. after i stopped using all sms backup apps, the problem is gone. and by sms backup app i mean those that backup to gmail, not to sdcard. if you have an app that checks for new sms's and automatically backes them up, then get rid of it.. if you need an one time backup, use SMS Backup & Restore.
like i said, getting rid of automatic sms backup apps did the trick for me.

OCLF

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
anyone ever tried using this on the cappy, also i was wondering what the format is for CM7. if there is any lagfix of any kind on there
superj3211 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
anyone ever tried using this on the cappy, also i was wondering what the format is for CM7. if there is any lagfix of any kind on there
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CM7 already uses EXT4, so lagfix would be pointless. That's why you flash the speedmod kernel first, because it converts it for you. I wouldn't use OCLF though considering it's been unsupported for ~6 months. I'd say use a voodoo kernel or any custom rom using speedmod or just cm7 or miui.
was also wondering if anyone ever used any of those apps like juicedefender or anything like that, and wanted to know what everyone thought of them
I have tried using juicedefender, etc. but I really noticed no difference in battery life. I find the easiest way to close an app is to hit the back arrow on the bottom of your phone until you leave the app. This usually closes the app that is on although some apps have to be closed by going to settings, applications, running applications and stopping them.
anyone else add to there experiences with apps like this
megatronisabeast said:
I have tried using juicedefender, etc. but I really noticed no difference in battery life. I find the easiest way to close an app is to hit the back arrow on the bottom of your phone until you leave the app. This usually closes the app that is on although some apps have to be closed by going to settings, applications, running applications and stopping them.
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Ditto this
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superj3211 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
anyone ever tried using this on the cappy, also i was wondering what the format is for CM7. if there is any lagfix of any kind on there
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I'm still wondering why some people like you still thinking of the stone age OCLF.....
OCLF has been developed right after GalaxyS released in market.
It use old EXT2 and loop device upon RFS in GalaxyS.
(people should take a look and understand what is lagfix, what it does)
It benefit in benchmarking, Only.
But it is not really fix lag problem, file performance still bad, and lack of data integrity in system failure..
Most kernels here are full EXT4 buildin (except stock kernel),
and also has many tweaks and Voodoo Sound etc.
If you use Dev.kernel and still use OCLF,
it is so stupid and really don't understand what's going on.
imo the lagfix did make the phone perform better. the best lagfix i have every run was a custom one the i was told to run on the phoenix irc. you had to be on a universal lagfix type of kernel and it was like this
data_fs =ext4
cache=ext4
DBDATA=ext4
DATA_LOOP= ext2
CACHE_LOOP=ext2
DBDATA_LOOP=ext2
BIND_DATA_TO_DBDATA=kept on default value (Recomended)
i got super fast speeds with this
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imo the lagfix did make the phone perform better. the best lagfix i have every run was a custom one the i was told to run on the phoenix irc. you had to be on a universal lagfix type of kernel and it was like this
data_fs =ext4
cache=ext4
DBDATA=ext4
DATA_LOOP= ext2
CACHE_LOOP=ext2
DBDATA_LOOP=ext2
BIND_DATA_TO_DBDATA=kept on default value (Recomended)
i got super fast speeds with this
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It is usable, and fast especially in benchmarking,
but it is not a good idea to put on loop device in mobile devices.
You get that speed, but you will pay the price in getting bigger chance of data corruption.
As for Juice Defender, I used it for a bit, and paid for Ultimate Juice, but it started screwing up my data connection to the point where the only way I could get it back was to reboot the phone, then it would just botch it up all over again. There was no support offered by the developers, they wouldn't respond to any communications, I deleted it and found my battery actually improved. I wouldn't bother with it.

CodeNameAndroid ICS Q&A

This is the Q&A for CNA ICS!
b-eock said:
This is the Q&A for CNA ICS!
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Cool! Any calendar fix yet? Thanks!
Loving this ROM. Fast and smooth.
Can't buy apps from the market though- it just returns the generic error. Is there a fix for that?
Schloot said:
Loving this ROM. Fast and smooth.
Can't buy apps from the market though- it just returns the generic error. Is there a fix for that?
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problem with all ice cream sandwich ROMs
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is there a fix for the wireless tether problem, or its just me?
is there an android os bug fix and full bar signal bug?
is there an android os bug fix in the rom?
also does the rom have a fix for the always full bar signals? thanks
salazar44 said:
Cool! Any calendar fix yet? Thanks!
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Strangest thing.... Was on CNA, decided to try ICSSGS, didn't like it as well so flashed back and calendar was there. I assume because I did not wipe on the flash back to CNA?
FWIW, I have tried this, ICSSGS, and CM9. CNA is my favorite. I have had almost no issues. 1 app won't run, but it is from my small, local bank.
Schloot said:
Loving this ROM. Fast and smooth.
Can't buy apps from the market though- it just returns the generic error. Is there a fix for that?
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That issue is fixed on ICSSGS and maybe others, I'm not certain if it involves some adjustments ROM-side, or it should be fixed by using latest gapps. I previously encountered the issue but haven't seen it in quite some time.
The alternative would be buying them in the browser/pc.
How To Print Screen
Anyone know how I would perform a print screen?
Nevermind, found the answer (Volume Down + Power Button)
Hi guys,
I'm interested in trying this ROM out.
I'm coming from Serendipity VII, which if I understand correctly is I9000 based. Just to make sure I understand what I'm doing, I should just be able to reboot to recovery, and install the CNA ROM from the zip file, correct? Any other steps necessary?
Thanks
the newguy said:
Hi guys,
I'm interested in trying this ROM out.
I'm coming from Serendipity VII, which if I understand correctly is I9000 based. Just to make sure I understand what I'm doing, I should just be able to reboot to recovery, and install the CNA ROM from the zip file, correct? Any other steps necessary?
Thanks
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I got it installed (with the Glitch kernel - running at 1.4Ghz so far), and I'm very impressed
The only issue I haven't yet been able to figure out is the external SD card. It seems that it now gets mounted under /mnt/emmc/ ? For whatever reason, the music player can't find the media that I have on the external SD card. Any ideas? I can find it using ES File Explorer and play the files individually.
Privacy
There has been an ever-increasing number of apps which want access to private information (like call logs, location, and contact information) without needing it to run the application. I'm talking about games and not apps which require such information like Anti-virus and such. Will we ever have a permission manager a la MIUI on this ROM? I understand that many developers work in concert, so I am wondering why most ROM's are not created with safeguards in place to protect private information. I am aware that I am not in the MIUI Q&A section, but I feel this is an issue that all ROM's should consider in order to protect private information. I know that I don't have to install apps which ask for this information if I don't want to give up my information, but it seems that every app nowadays asks for these permissions and it would be a shame to continue as if there were nothing wrong with compromising private information to play a game.
Thanks in advance.
I was one if the unlucky ones that had no 3g data after flashing this rom, flashed glitch, moved apn-conf.XML to the /system/etc/ directory overwriting the old file.
This did not bring data back. I decided to look at the apn list and noticed that it was blank. Clicked the menu button, then selected reset to defaults. Ten minutes later I had data.
Lock Screen
Has the lock screen been updated to allow for custom applications where it shows the icon of the custom application instead of that alien looking character? This was one of the reasons I moved away from this ROM and would love to come back. I'm not a fan of having to try to remember which application ties to which alien character.
Xenocide83 said:
Has the lock screen been updated to allow for custom applications where it shows the icon of the custom application instead of that alien looking character? This was one of the reasons I moved away from this ROM and would love to come back. I'm not a fan of having to try to remember which application ties to which alien character.
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Not yet. It still shows the animated android.
Nostalgia shows the custom icons on the ICS lock screen. (haven't flashed any other ICS roms yet.)
Update 3/24:
All aosp roms do not show custom icons.
All aokp based roms do show custom icons.
aosp also seems a little laggier than aokp. Playing angry birds space @ 1.3 ghz resulted in click and audio lag. (Gummy charged was my aosp test platform at that time).
Docs runs blazing fast at same speed with no click lag. Aokp m28 clocked at 800 MHz / glitch runs smooth. I think this is because of the scrolling cache which I force disabled in from control.
Thanks for your work bringing ics to captivate.
Any way to disable the proximity sensor in this rom? The thing is the cappy i purchased came with that sensor dead.. This makes the phone freeze while making calls for example.. I'm using right now MIUI 2.3.2 Gingerbread 2.3.7 and I can disable it with almost no effort at all..
Thanks in advance
P.S. Check it out the attachment
Huesos66 said:
Any way to disable the proximity sensor in this rom? The thing is the cappy i purchased came with that sensor dead.. This makes the phone freeze while making calls for example.. I'm using right now MIUI 2.3.2 Gingerbread 2.3.7 and I can disable it with almost no effort at all..
Thanks in advance
P.S. Check it out the attachment
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Have you tried just disabling the rotation power toggle?
scythekain said:
Have you tried just disabling the rotation power toggle?
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Sorry but I don't really see how the rotation would be related to the proximity sensor functionalities. I could try that, but I would be more than grateful if you could explain me a little further the relationship between those two.. Anyways I have to download the rom, nandroid backup, and flash everything to test it out.
Thanks for the reply
Huesos66 said:
Sorry but I don't really see how the rotation would be related to the proximity sensor functionalities. I could try that, but I would be more than grateful if you could explain me a little further the relationship between those two.. Anyways I have to download the rom, nandroid backup, and flash everything to test it out.
Thanks for the reply
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you are correct, the proximity sensor does not control rotation. a bit a of a flub on my part sorry.
here are some things I tried with my AOKP rom (don't think the AOSP - CNA is too much different?)
1) There is no setting in the call menu for the proximity sensor.
2) However if you cover your sensor (which is broken anyways right?) a dab of black nail polish, to block all the light from it. I covered my sensor with my thumb and the screen stayed on. However if the problem is deeper within your hardware (possibly the control IC for the sensor), it will still lock up when it tries to access the current state of the sensor.
3) It's possible from what I've found that your sensor is okay, and that there is an internal blockage to the sensor cover. (though, my phone didn't lock up with the sensor covered?). Try canned air/ Vacuum to clear the blockage?
4) There are a several application options as none of the ICS roms I've used appear to have that MIUI option.
http://www.ehow.com/how_12187467_disable-proximity-sensor-android.html

Worth getting ics?

I'm currently running 2.3.6 xxjw4 (rooted) and I rather like the official stock Samsung roms and I was wondering if there was a room that was kept as close to stock as possible for galaxy s and if so would it be worth me upgrading, what are the biggest improvements?
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i asked there same question, search for debate. I use slim 3.7 with semaphore, I get 399 mb ram, its very fast, multi tasking is awesome, very solid, only downside is gps is not as good with ics. Take a nandroid backup and try it, you'll love it
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gsw5700 said:
multi tasking is awesome
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just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
Does it have the tw launcher? And the big Widgets at the top of the status bar like a stock Samsung Rom?
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After encountering bugs in a few ICS rom's, I ran back to the more stable GB custom rom's. I've also noticed that battery backup is better on the GB rom's.
I'm open to suggestions and also willing to try if anyone here can recommend stable ICS rom's to me.
lcampori said:
just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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gsw5700 said:
multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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thanks, but
1- I know what multitasking is...
2- I tried quite any available flavour of ics.
my point is different. On my pc at work as a finance employee, I have lotus notes, bloomberg, matlab, 2 or more excel istances, and who knows what running at the same time. At home, as a photographer, I have the browser, photoshop, lightroom, music player and who knows what else running at the same time.
this is useful multitasking. Not multitasking for the sake of having something you can tell friends. Oh, my phone does multitasking! By saying it has more memory so it is better for multitasking means nothing, sorry I do not want to sound rude, but... better for what, I mean, in real user experience?
On my phone if I browse the web, I don't need to have a photoshop batch running at the same time. Or a time consuming routine under some statistical app. Well, I do not feel I NEED it. If you check out your friends' status in facebook, you're not texting a friend on your sms app.
So my question was: what do you really need multitasking for on your phone with a small screen? Me, I have navigation and music player up while I'm driving, and all services needed to have a phone and a messaging system. bluetooth to communicate with car audio system, data mobile for navigation, tasker to control the settings a bit... but this can be done smoothly and fast with gb, so... exactly in what ics multitasking is better than gb, I am not talking about specs, I talk about real use. did you experience any fc in gb that you do not get in ics? or what? Can you give me some examples where you can take advantage of multitasking in ics better than gb?
this could be a potentially good reason to try ics once again.
More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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gsw5700 said:
More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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I know the specs. Don't be generic. "You can run more stuff". Such as?
What kind of PRACTICAL advantage you have in ics vs gb regarding multitasking??
can you provide examples in your daily use?
can you provide any info about your actual improvement?
How many apps do you run at the same time? Why?
How many apps are you able to run smoother and faster at the same time compared to gb?
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
gcuchiha said:
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
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agree 100%
while stock gb (jw5 in my case) looks like it perfectly fits sgs, imho the same does not apply for ics, so far. The reason to me is straightforward, stock sgs roms are hardware specific since they also include closed source drivers, as far as I know.
but of course, you'd better try and decide by yourself, ics is free!
last time I tried cm9 - a couple of weeks ago - I got some random reboots, but maybe I messed up things, I do not know, and maybe newer nightlies or other ics roms are more stable.
Hi.
I'm on ICS333 1.1 for two days now. I tried nearly all the other ics roms, but this one is the best, in my opinion. everything works fine.
I can't tell you if its possible to use an external sd-card (within ICS) because i'm not using one. But the rom is fast and smooth. gps, wifi, hspa, cam etc. is working without issues.
The only thing to mention is, that when locking the phone, you got access to the notification bar if you got the std lockscreen on (swype to unlock). so i'm using patternlock.
backup your efs-folder ans try it out.
greetz, andi. sry for my bad english

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