[HOW TO?] Topaz GPU Overclock - Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development

Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
But that it doesn't seem to work... Because we need a kernel that let us to do this... Also, someone said it's not .grp and it's .gpu!
I'm really confused with that. So, let me know your experiences and let's discuss about this... Just imagine that you can play a lot of 3D apps much faster than you do right now... With a NAND build, we can hopefully get a functional Android on Topaz (Comparable to LEO)
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking

reibe said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3695304&postcount=2 -> Overclocking
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That's related to overclocking the CPU... I'm talking about GPU (Graphic Processing Unit) which is different.

Black.Heart said:
Hey guys, have you ever heard that you can Overclock your GPU??
Some user got it done on Kaiser and scored 36.5 FPS on NeoCore!! Isn't it great??! Our devices are rather stronger that Kaiser... To do this, you have to add this line at your startup.txt:
clock_7x00.grp=0ax99
Link to Kaiser GPU OC thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
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No so good, these results only because these devices have QVGA screens.
I seen even 37.9fps on my Polaris w/o GPU overclocks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6807328&postcount=67
For our devices better way is decrease resolution like 240x400.

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M700 HTC 3600 overclocking

Is it possible to download software to overclock the m700 like you can on other HTC devices
hi,
if you search along this forum you will find the anwser.
try to search "XCPUScalar"
i've got mine fully working at 500Mhz.
XCPUScalar is for intel PXA CPUs, trinity uses samsung cpu and XCPUscalar does nothing to it. Your 500MHz it's just a placebo effect.
placebo effect....
vimafeje said:
hi,
if you search along this forum you will find the anwser.
try to search "XCPUScalar"
i've got mine fully working at 500Mhz.
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Hi,
xcpuscalar has no effect on the samsung processor of the trinity, if you make a search about, you'll find many info...
afaik the only software that works with samsung is pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
bye
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[email protected] said:
Hi,
afaik the only software that works with samsung is pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
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Just have to be reasonable, think 500mhz is a little bit too much...
And I wouldn't wanna kill batterylife for those few extra megahertz's...
Just a question, I know that for a desktop some extra mHz can mean alot, but what would the benefit be for a PPC?
Moaske said:
And I wouldn't wanna kill batterylife for those few extra megahertz's...
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Right, but if you underclock you buddy ( i.e. 251 mhz ) you can *increase* battery life ;-)
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So nobody wants to help us over and underclocking our devices?!
"Just a question, I know that for a desktop some extra mHz can mean alot, but what would the benefit be for a PPC?"
without having all the numbers then i doubt it will mean that much as interfaces for different types of memory and interfaces would likely become bottleneck fast
[email protected] said:
pocket hack master but is not stable and often crash
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I don't even think pocket hack master really does the overclocking on the samsung cpu. Last time I check, there's no official support for that cpu.
Nevertheless, I tried it - and tested it with benchmarking softwares - and it seems that it may even degrade performance!
Then I uninstalled it right away!

Overclocking the Diamond

The way overclocking my original Touch helped with the lags due to the TouchFlo cube got me thinking: is it possible to overclock the Diamond beyond 528MHz? I heard before that Qualcomm processors were un-overclockable? Is this still valid? If not, how can I overclock my Diamond and what are the risks?
Blimey, how much hotter do we want the Diamond to get!
Methinks the battery isn't really up to it either...
It is hot but we need to acknowledge that it does lag sometimes.
A better battery is coming out in the near future (1350mAh) so I'm guessing we should consider overclocking.
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
Count me in on anything that has the word:
Overclocking Like my insanely smoothly running Overclocked Vista Ultimate Machine!
wardy said:
I think the Processor is plenty fast enough . Its the operating system and a plugin that is causing the lag .
If you run the device without the 3d pluggin its very quick. Its just that the operating system is enhanced to the hardware but the pluggin is not as intergrated so will never run as fast
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I understand that if WM 6.1 runs smoothly on a 201MHz TI-OMAP processor, it will fly on a 528MHz processor. The point is to get TouchFlo3D to integrate that greatly with the remainder of the OS since it is the most appealing feature of the device. I think that upping the processor to say 650MHz would largely facilitate this.
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
kultus said:
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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I'm waiting for this option as well
is it ppossible to oc the touch diamond? and what program do i need?
i would really like to oc it!!
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
Am I correct in thinking that there are other devices with the same processor running at 400mhz, if so the speed must be scalable? I agree that the diamond is quick already but if the speed was scalable like battery status with the TI omap I had in my old Artemis, then the battery should last longer since usually it would be running underclocked.
i will buy external bat. is there any program for oc touch diamond
kultus said:
no no no boys I think that more usefull will be underclock processor for better battery life when you didnt need so much performance...automated state will be the BEST!!! so try to think in this direction...
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Valid point. I guess the software that will overclock the Diamond will also allow underclocking so the goal is the same.
ljames28 said:
Bunch of fools :/ Overclocking a phone that already has overheating issues AND battery life issues.
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An extended battery is on the way and I haven't encountered any overheating issues yet. You better check your facts before calling everyone fools.
Apparently there isn't any such software available given that nobody has made suggestions concerning the availabilty of such software yet.
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
so no software for now?
do you think it will be avilable one day?
I hope so but I think the problem is that most Qualcomm processors have fast enough clocks so the incentive for developers to look into the problem isn't that great.
Actually, how much resources are required to develop such an application? We could start raising funds to that end.
mennotheman said:
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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Yeah. I know about this one but I also heard that GPS doesn't work well when it's on.
mennotheman said:
http://www.batteryupgrade.se/produc...9&PHP5SESSID=fe2844f3866fcfcdecb1881ab80afa2d
1800 mAh battery
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are you joking I bought Diamond because of dims and weight...If I ll want thick basta*d I ll buy HTC touch Pro muhehe or better stay with my Kaiser
Double post
I could have sworn that the processor in the diamond is UNDERCLOCKED as standard, and does not even run at 528Mhz..
If true, probably a decision to conserve battery since 900mAH is bugger all.
Also, again if this is true, you could probably assume it could at least be clocked to 528Mhz which would speed it up, at least make a difference from what were all used to.
Even with TouchFLO3D disabled, I find the Diamond to be not as responsive as other (much older) WinMo devices, this just does not seem to make any sense. An underclocked CPU would explain a lot of things, IMO.
The question is, how can we find out the truth?
with some software like cpu-z for pc.
are there programs for oc other htc products?

What is THE fastest ROM out there?

After having tried out a few ROMs (none recently) I am somewhat disappointed with my Diamond's performance. I am tired of waiting for my menu pages to finally appear after selecting them, I don't feel the urge to keep on trying out new ROMs until one is maybe 10% faster than the original.
Is there any ROM/UI solution that is really fast and immediately makes my phone display what it is supposed to? What about other TF versions/substitutions?
Besides speed, my only requirements are absence of annoying bugs and a slider/hw-buttons-only option to accept/reject calls.
Could you guys please give me a recommendation? What was the fastest solution you encountered? Thanks in advance.
Mmmm....
That all depends on what you call fast. The device will never perform like current devices. The only speed increase I've noticed after trying many, many ROM's is with TF3D2. This is way quicker than the original TF3D shipped with the Diamond, but as for the general day to day operation, none of the ROM's in my opinion, are any quicker than any other.
Sure, chef's comment on lightening this, and speedy that, but at the end of the day, we're stuck with what that crap OMAP processor can handle. Bring on the Snapdragon powered devices!
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
Ooops!
Rudegar said:
the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
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Sorry... my apologies! I was thinking of the original Touch! You're quite right, the Diamond has a QUALCOMM processor
Graphics...
Affenpeter said:
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe that 64MB of the onboard 192MB are dedicated to graphics processing. Drivers may come in to it, but whether updated drivers would make a huge speed difference is debateable!

Tegra 2 overclocking

I already postet this in the Atrix 4G section, because they have a thread there about this topic. But they are discussing more about the locked bootloader than about overclocking and as we don't have such a thread here, I will start this one.
Perhaps you think overclocking actually does not make much sense on this device atm, as it is really fast, but I always like to get most out of my hardware that is possible.
I dont think, I would enable overclocking for everyday use now, but it would be cool to be able to do so if needed. At 1200 MHz as Nvidia had planned for the Tegra2 3D the Phone would for sure even beat the Omap 4 in Optimus 3D.
I am totaly new to Android and also to Linux, so I am not sure if this is helpful, but I have seen something very interesting in the Optimus 2x review at Anandtech.
I dont know where these variables are stored and what is needed to, but for me it looks as if we are able to change them, overclocking should be possible on the Optimus 2X.
It would be great if some oft the developers here could look into this when the Optimus Speed finally has been shipped…
I was wondering the same thing. So i checked other Tegra2 powered devices. And as far as i know none has been overclocked yet. Correct me if am wrong.
So far no overclock is needed since this phone is reaaaaaaalllly fast.
But I am sure as soon as it needs some extra power developers will figure out how to do it
Michael Huang (author of SetCPU) has just overclocked the Xoom tablet today. Now, while the Xoom is a Tegra2 device, its kernel is (apparently) Google based whereas others are nVidia based.
In overclocking the Xoom from 1GHz to 1.5GHz though, he saw about a 1/3rd increase in performance on Linpack and Quadrant. Looks promising so far.
Watch the video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNjHyAi8BI and follow Michael on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/coolbho3k
The Reason to Overclock the Atrix in my opinion is as follows
The Linux Based Webtop is slow in reviews
So when pluged into mains power it would be very usful to overclock the device to make the most of the webtop with less lag issues making the device far more usful if you need/want that feature.
Maby possible to make a custom dock (stick fan on it) and clock higher
I'm more interested in underclocking, especially when screen is off with a screen off profile in SetCPU. What do you think is the lowest possible frequency I could set it at?
You can put all the way down. I use the same settings in both my N1 and the 2x. Saves some juice. What I really want to see is custom kernels, pref undervolted if its possible.
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According to the SetCPU changelog, overclocking/underclocking is now possible:
2.1.1 - Fixed an issue with profiles backup in CM7.
- Added support for the Motorola Xoom, Atrix 4G, and other Tegra 2 devices.
- Fixed various bugs.
- Tablet optimized UI and more profiles coming soon!
2.1.1a - Fixed the 0 MHz display issue on some devices.
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Convel said:
According to the SetCPU changelog, overclocking/underclocking is now possible:
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How can you overclock with SetCPU then on o2x? Believe only the powersaving underclocking on demand is working.. overclock needs more work i believe.
The Xoom has been overclocked, but apparently the kernels are from google, which made it easier.
If anybody knows more about this, please correct me
The kernel must be adjusted to make overclock work. I got to read myself into this, but perhaps someone else knows already everything to it .
GPU
i wonder if the gpu can be overclocked, would be nice if it was possible too just OC the gpu and compare the results. Or do you think that the CPU and GPU clock speeds are somehow linked???
Any thoughts?
bumping cause im curious. Can any one please answer ?
well this is arm so id day they are linked
are we able to read the clock speed of hte gpu. does is change?
Look at the date mate
The GPU is not linked with the CPU. The GPU is overclocked in different kernels. Spica's kernel allows on the fly overclocking of the GPU.
After having this device for over a year, the only time i needed OC is for 720P Youtube or Youtube HD app. No OC on the GPU has ever been needed. Yes i have been playing around with 1.2 and 1.4, but they just consumed battery more than giving a better experience. I would go so far and say undervolt it and put it on 900Mhz.

overvolting htc diamond

Hi all,
I would like to know if overvolting of msm 7201A is possible on htc diamond. I have overclocked this cpu at 710Mhz with wimospeed. At 729Mhz the device become unstable. So i would try to overvolt thi cpu to obtain better performance. In this way i don't need to buy a new device, because at default settings the htc diamond is very slow, in my opinion.
Thanks.
nobody answer?
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marioland2 said:
nobody answer?
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Give 'em some time. I've been waiting for an answer for my question for a couple months now, .
In all seriousness though, I really don't have an answer for you. I can share my experiences with it though - I used to have an app baked into my ROMs that claimed to be able to overvolt a little bit, but it was all just a hoax. The app didn't actually do anything though, so I'm thinking "no".
Give it time though.
Good luck.
- 2 Bunny
Oh sorry. Ok i'll wait for an answer.
u want water cooling too?
LOL, it's not necessary, default heatstink is enough.
marioland2 said:
Hi all,
I would like to know if overvolting of msm 7201A is possible on htc diamond. I have overclocked this cpu at 710Mhz with wimospeed. At 729Mhz the device become unstable. So i would try to overvolt thi cpu to obtain better performance. In this way i don't need to buy a new device, because at default settings the htc diamond is very slow, in my opinion.
Thanks.
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Could be useful overclock RAM.... An HTC HD Mini has only 600 Mhz CPU and go faster and faster then Diamond...
irc24 said:
Could be useful overclock RAM.... An HTC HD Mini has only 600 Mhz CPU and go faster and faster then Diamond...
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you're right; i tried to set cpu speed at 400Mhz and the system reactivity was the same. Could be useful also increase bus speed. If this overclock is possible i can buy a 1350mah battery so i don't need a new smartphone lol.

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