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Is SGS still a goer?

Hi,
Im new (ish) to this forum and currently looking for an upgrade from my Hero. Tbh if I didnt have to renew my contract I would be quite happy to keep it for another 18 months. So, I've been reading lots on this big ongoing debates about Desire vs SGS vs DHD..
I thought the SGS was going to be a win for me even with the GPS, Wifi, etc etc issues, imo they are considered as minor issues since its only software related (you pro developers will find a way around it one way or other! )
...Until a found this thread:
'AMOLED burn in' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498
So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .

JLneonhug said:
Hi,
Im new (ish) to this forum and currently looking for an upgrade from my Hero. Tbh if I didnt have to renew my contract I would be quite happy to keep it for another 18 months. So, I've been reading lots on this big ongoing debates about Desire vs SGS vs DHD..
I thought the SGS was going to be a win for me even with the GPS, Wifi, etc etc issues, imo they are considered as minor issues since its only software related (you pro developers will find a way around it one way or other! )
...Until a found this thread:
'AMOLED burn in' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498
So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .
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Depends on the needs of the person buying the phone - if you use your GPS daily I'd recommend waiting for a better device or getting the DHD. Otherwise I'd go with the SGS.
With the plethora of Tegra 2 devices coming in the next few months I'd suggest waiting.

Unless the most important thing is gaming i would suggest the desire HD. Its all round faster, especially if your not into "hacking" your phone.
The screen of the sgs does in fact "burn in". I have some on my screen, If i knew about it before i would have tried using different orientations.
The galaxy s also has very little ram when compared to the desire hd, and it actually does make a big difference when it comes to performance in general.
The the thing galaxy s has going for it is that its sold a lot, and the community is pretty great, but if you want something that simply just works get the desire Hd or even better wait for a few months and get a dual-core.

JLneonhug said:
So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .
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To the degradation. It should be same on all amoleds. Its not the phone. Its the display causing that. So what ever you do. You might be better of with an SLCD.
Desire and DHD I think some of them are Amoled too. So it will be there too.
Btw the burn in, I still didnt see a picture of it. And I am afraid of checking my phone. Seriously. Now I am "not" knowing if its burned in. Once I check I would have to bring it in for repairs and I HATE THAT! (And there is the fact I am not running official stock)
What I dont like is the pentile matrix from these Super Amoleds. The resolution is too weak and small fonts are fading. Not readable. Missing pixels. Dunno how to explain more. Its not smooth. This should be fixed by the next gen Super Amoled +
So even if the BURN IN might or might not (its just a matter of time ) the pentile matrix is there always and the display even if nice colors and contrast lacks on sharpness. Good for movies, games, bad for a business man with reader/calendar/news/agenda, things that burn in and need to be good readable

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So even if the BURN IN might or might not (its just a matter of time ) the pentile matrix is there always and the display even if nice colors and contrast lacks on sharpness. Good for movies, games, bad for a business man with reader/calendar/news/agenda, things that burn in and need to be good readable
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Couldn't agree more. The very visible matrix is the main issue I have with this screen.

If I knew then what I know now(about the phone. don't get me started on the provider...), I would still have bought the phone then. I'm quite happy with the phone, and I'm going to keep it(and use it ofcourse) for a "long" time. However, given that "4G" LTE phones aren't far off, and that dual cores aren't far off, and that Super Amoled+ isn't far off, and that.... If I was thinking of buying a new phone now, I would wait for a few months and get one that's more "future proof".
Regards

Silverdragondk said:
If I was thinking of buying a new phone now, I would wait for a few months and get one that's more "future proof"
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There is no such thing... And never will be. Look there are new phones with Tegra 2 and they are announcing Tegra 3.
Doesn't matter when you buy it. You can either buy an expensive new one. Or an older good one for cheaper.
(or wait a month for the ones you want, then a half year for a good ROM + software and there we go with a new phone and it begins again)
The time from producing a new phone and technology isn't years anymore, its months (sometimes just weeks) . Waiting in this case is for hours/days. To wait more then 2 weeks is nonsense (and that only if you really want the phone)

oh,i dont agree it,i think very visible matrix is not a big problem,if try to change your font,im sure u will find it change a lot

obggbo said:
oh,i dont agree it,i think very visible matrix is not a big problem,if try to change your font,im sure u will find it change a lot
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oh, I dont agree.
I bought 4 fonts (well more but others refunded till I still could in the good old 24h days), tried out 20, downloaded custom 20. Changed DPI. Bold. Etc. Fact is. My hero with 120 DPI (normal 160) is better readable then the SGS on 240.
When I try to read mails I get from partners, even this forum. Etc. I still cant see it clearly. Even if readable its still "ugly" . I saw an LCD (xperia, desire and the hero) and I just can cry for a screen like that
I said its pretty for movies or games, there ofc you wont notice it.

Audio stream when recording a video even at 720p is crap. I tried shooting a few the other day of my floorstanding speakers playing FLAC stuff, obviously im not expecting mirrored performance but after examining the video file generated by the phone on my computer, the bit rate was around 62kbps @ 32KHz sampling rate.
Audio playback is ok, nothing special, no way near the quality of an iphone4 which my sibling enjoys daily.
And yes the crap resolution where the individual pixels are visible is a HUGE turn off! I was expecting it to be much more smooth, almost fluid like, as is the iph4 display. However, colour reproduction on the SGS is phenomenal, rich and vibrant.
Id say check both phones out in person, see for yourself. SGS has a strong community, 10 mill units sold. Then again id say wait until the newer handsets with tegra 2 are out. In saying that though i suppose you'll be forever waiting. Dont rush for a handset thats still in its infancy. Wait till you know what bugs and drawbacks it suffers from first. NO device is perfect, even in the 21st century!
Too much technology packed into one unit without fully understanding how individual processes function not to mention varied performance when coupled with other technologies.

ok,i agree that the super amoled readable is worse than lcd,but i think it not too bad to accept,and when reading pictures or movies,it is wonderful,in a word ,it is much better than lcd,you know after desire change it‘s screen,it become much cheaper than before,
and i think Accor black for apple is a good font

Not gonna deny it, it's a tough choice. I've had my SGS for about 4 months now, and I'm extremely tempted to get it swapped with a HTC Desire Z/G2. I don't trust Samsung when it comes to software anymore (Kies is terrible, updates are postponed and I HIGHLY doubt we'll ever see gingerbread) and the developer support for Samsung devices just isn't there. This, plus my GPS performance is still mediocre at best, it's completely failed about 4 or 5 times including once where the internal SD nearly died.
Granted, some of this could change with the Nexus S, but I doubt it'll change much. We may get better developer support but past that I don't see anything else happening. You also just might want to wait a little bit more and get a 4G LTE phone. Don't expect to be "future-proof" though, that's impossible.

Thoughts on the T-Mobile G2X as compared to the Nexus

I currently own a Nexus S and love it. I just wanted to get your opinions on The G2X and how it may compare to the NS. Aside from lacking gingerbread, what other potential downsides am i looking at? What are the upsides? I'm just looking for constructive feedback. No Flame throwing

tarusdg said:
I currently own a Nexus S and love it. I just wanted to get your opinions on The G2X and how it may compare to the NS. Aside from lacking gingerbread, what other potential downsides am i looking at? What are the upsides? I'm just looking for constructive feedback. No Flame throwing
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The Nexus S beats it in every department except video recording, so its up to you what you deem important
Nexus S is fast, amazing screen and housing which make the phone when off look like a black slab of coal, also when the phone is on the blacks stay that colour, so you dont know where the screen starts and finishes...
The Nexus S is the real deal mate, i cant see anything living up to its quality, except for maybe the SGSII
JD

Im having the same problem. But im also wondering between my Nexus s, the new T-Mobile G2X and upcoming HTC Pyramid.
My opinion.
Nexus s - Love this phone, have nothing bad to say, never had all the issues everyone was having (rebooting).
T-Mobile G2X - Reviews say the phone is sluggish for a phone with dual core, but it might be due to the custom UI. The G2X comes with stock gingerbread which is a plus but how how easy will this be to developers to root and install custom rom. Have never had a LG phone and dont know how the quality is.
HTC Pyramid - Still needs to be released but the spec looks amazing and I love HTC quality (nexus one). Recently HTC had not been too nice to devs. with G2 and Thunderbolt.
Wait til all the phone get released and then see what happens, see what fits for me.

nexus s is the real deal....unless yours is with tmobile....then in 2 years...its useless (unless you enjoy using a smartphone for 2g)
thats just a techinicality, most of us will move on by then, but the gx2 needs some more time before we can dive into it. but its dual core and 4g, cant really hate on that. ofcourse battery life can be a good fight (im on 22hrs and 30minutes on my nexus s right now and its still at 15%)
amoled screen is another thing...the fact that it doesnt have gingerbread is not abig deal at all, from what i read this is reaallly stock android with the exception of some apps, not skins or UI

babluc said:
Im having the same problem. But im also wondering between my Nexus s, the new T-Mobile G2X and upcoming HTC Pyramid.
My opinion.
Nexus s - Love this phone, have nothing bad to say, never had all the issues everyone was having (rebooting).
T-Mobile G2X - Reviews say the phone is sluggish for a phone with dual core, but it might be due to the custom UI. The G2X comes with stock gingerbread which is a plus but how how easy will this be to developers to root and install custom rom. Have never had a LG phone and dont know how the quality is.
HTC Pyramid - Still needs to be released but the spec looks amazing and I love HTC quality (nexus one). Recently HTC had not been too nice to devs. with G2 and Thunderbolt.
Wait til all the phone get released and then see what happens, see what fits for me.
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The Pyramid is the one that I'm waiting to see more about.

Yeah i hope we are able to see some hands-on vids today. I agree that only time will tell if its a winner or not. Those specs do make it seem like a beast of a phone though, and stock android has a significant place in my heart.

tarusdg said:
Yeah i hope we are able to see some hands-on vids today. I agree that only time will tell if its a winner or not. Those specs do make it seem like a beast of a phone though, and stock android has a significant place in my heart.
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I definitely would not buy anything less that a screen with AMOLED. I was a HTC fanatic, i owned the HTC Desire, Nexus One, Desire Z (G2) and the HD. But once you convert to Samsung you never look back, i could never have a SLCD screen again(greyish blacks yuk)...
But i do miss Sense sometimes, and i know that's a contentious issue in this forum as there are so many Sense haters here, but i like having the choice to mix up my ROM's by having stock for a few months then Sense for a few months.. With the Nexus S your pretty much restricted to stock or MIUI, But thank god for the MIUI release, its invigorated the dev forum. Lots of kernels and same-ish ROM's, thank god we have something new to play with
JD

JupiterDroid said:
I definitely would not buy anything less that a screen with AMOLED. I was a HTC fanatic, i owned the HTC Desire, Nexus One, Desire Z (G2) and the HD. But once you convert to Samsung you never look back, i could never have a SLCD screen again(greyish blacks yuk)...
But i do miss Sense sometimes, and i know that's a contentious issue in this forum as there are so many Sense haters here, but i like having the choice to mix up my ROM's by having stock for a few months then Sense for a few months.. With the Nexus S your pretty much restricted to stock or MIUI, But thank god for the MIUI release, its invigorated the dev forum. Lots of kernels and same-ish ROM's, thank god we have something new to play with
JD
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I used to feel the same way when I had my Epic 4G. I thought I could put up with anything for a SAMOLED but then I started playing with an Evo. Sure, the screen as quite as brilliant but a great screen does not a device make. I've made my opinion on Sense clear but I won't dis on someone else's enjoyment of it (doesn't mean I don't get tired of seeing new threads pop up asking for it). The only thing that would really make me not want to get a Pyramid is if the bootloader is as locked down as the Thunderbolt but something tells me that was something Verizon wanted but that is a personal hunch supported by absolutely no evidence so don't quote me on it. I could easily give up the SAMOLED, hell it makes me feel more comfortable running bright themes and I think it helps devs want to make them.

Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.

babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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That's not 100% true. They will work fine, you just won't get 3G.

kenvan19 said:
That's not 100% true. They will work fine, you just won't get 3G.
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But dont you think thats a big issue.

babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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This article explains that it might be future-proof. I hope its true

babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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That's most likely a year or more from now. By then you'd have replaced your phone anyways.

babluc said:
But dont you think thats a big issue.
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I wouldn't say its a big issue. I'm usually on wifi. Sure EDGE sucks but its better than nothing and it is still completely functional.

Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...

dinan said:
Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...
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Yeah, thats ugly, defo
JD

hands on:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/

SupaDupaFly24 said:
hands on:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/
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It is waaaaay faster than the 2x was when they reviewed it.

dinan said:
Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...
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i dont find it ugly at all.. just the bottom of the phone is a little bit exaggerated and could of added more screen size rather than having blank spots; probably something internal of the phone hardware that prevented that or they didnt want to overextend the screen size

kenvan19 said:
It is waaaaay faster than the 2x was when they reviewed it.
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Well... it looks snappy, but it's quite obvious the video is sped up. I know for a fact people's fingers don't move like that, all jittery lol. And if it's really using stock android, that stock launcher should animate just like our stock launcher, and it's way too fast in the video (opening the app drawer etc).

Sensation User Needs HD7 User

i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.

PMed you a offer, please check.
and i haven't found any problems with the touchscreen or screen related on my device, i dont know about others.

I just bought my HD7 and updated to Mango. I totally love it. I came from the HD2 with Mango on it. There is a huge difference to me. It is so much smoother going from window to window or moving up and down on the tiles. Internet browser works great. I have no complaints until now. The only down side to this is that there isn't as much development as the HD2. After you experience this you will not go back. I say buy an HD7 and move on.

elvisr77 said:
I just bought my HD7 and updated to Mango. I totally love it. I came from the HD2 with Mango on it. There is a huge difference to me. It is so much smoother going from window to window or moving up and down on the tiles. Internet browser works great. I have no complaints until now. The only down side to this is that there isn't as much development as the HD2. After you experience this you will not go back. I say buy an HD7 and move on.
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This is actually what I was hoping for. I think its better that there is no need for development. I'm at a point in my life where I don't have time to be messing with phones. I loved WP7 on my hd2 as well, so Im glad u had input from that prospective. I think I'm gonna do it and then prolly buy the HTC radar once my 6 month full upgrade comes around. Although the 8gb starage is a turnoff. Hopefully it can be modified like I've seen on the hd7.
Well thanks for the responses. And others feel free to give ur input still. And yes still looking for phone offers
Sent from my SENSATIONal 4G using Xda App.

I would hang on to your Sensation until T-Mobile gets some new hardware. I have both a Sensation and a HD7. Mango runs flawlessly on the HD7. It does everything my Sensation does, but better (with the exception of Flash and WiFi tethering). But in hand, the Sensation feels absolutely amazing. I'm hoping to have the Titan or something nice from Nokia land on T-Mobile. Someone will buy it and then demand an Android device, and I will come to their rescue.
WP7 is better than Android or iOS. Just my .02.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App

since this post and got the hd7 and have had it for 2 weeks.
and idk if i got a bad sensation, but the hd7 screen (i feel) brings out colors a lot better especially whites. and i have to agree i am loving wp7.5 mor than android, i havent owned an iphone since the 3gs but i feel wp7.5 is more convenient. of course i miss the wide selection of apps and flash but these things take time.
im not a fan of the giant screens, i actually feel i would like the radar better but the 8gb storage sucks and the screen is a little too small for me.... my pickiness is a killer lol.

chrisizzle492 said:
i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.
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I did just the opposite, switched from HD7 to sensation, and yeah you are right about the wp7 I too do really miss it.Good thing is that mom has my HD7 and after a bit of convincing I can get it back for a few days of course..

chrisizzle492 said:
i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.
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Hi, I have a spare mobile hd7, barely used, sim unlocked and upgraded to mango 7.5, let me know if you are still interested tnx ^_^

I love playing with phones. My screen died on my HD2 UltimateDroid. Insurance only covered another windows phone. They sent an HD7 Mango.HD7 running Deep Shining ROM. I felt limited as to apps and customization. HD7 is great for it's simplicity and social network integration. I also have a Sensation running Virtuous Inquisition ICS 4.0. Battery life is better with the HD7. Both can be tweaked to get better battery life. I have way more control over everything I do with Android and 4g, dual core. Because of the lack of battery life. I carry both! Custom ROMs so if I run outta juice, I switch SIMs LOL. I have to say the Sensation is a monster. I guess it's really user's preference!

What to go for?

Now i have the lg optimus 2x but I'm not happy with it. I change roms once at week, many times I have to reinstall all the apps and restore stuff from backups. I decided that I'm not happy with it and I decided to go on and change the lg phone.
I want to say thanks to all the developers that made this damned phone a little better and helped a lot with it.
Max budget is 1000euro so I think that most of the android phones are inside the budget. What do you think is the best choice on the market right now?
What I am looking at the moment in a phone is:
At least 12 hours battery with medium wifi use, always enabled data connection and like 30 minute calls during the day;
I want it to be fluid and fast, I don't want to experience freeze because I'm out of ram;
I would like a good camera, I really like taking pictures and making videos but lets say that the camera quality from the o2x really dissapointed me, the video quality was really too low to be considered hd;
The display max size I think that about 5" is enough and I want to be able to use it in the sunlight without problems;
Well, that's it. What do you guys suggest me? Which phone would be your choice? There are many models on the market right now apparently with similar hardware but which one you think is the best to do what I want to do? You think I should wait and see what the Galaxy s3 will offer or you think that it cannot offer more than the others are offering right now?
Please, don't suggest me to buy an LG, I don't even want to think about it
Thank you for your help!

If I had a 1000 euro budget for a phone I would buy an LG and save the other 700 eur for... I don't know... condoms?
Now, seriously, best of luck to you.
I wonder if this is also a case for PG "the thread closer" 101.

I really have no idea what to think of. With so many phones everyday I am a bit confused!!!

If you really want a beast phone, go for the HTC One X. Quad-core and great performance. Also the dev support for the HTC is quite good. But, you need to wait, I don't think it's released yet...

I say wait for Galaxy S III or Lg Optimus 4x HD.
Not a HTC fan but ONE X is one great phone.

iulian89 said:
I really have no idea what to think of. With so many phones everyday I am a bit confused!!!
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On seeing the probs u hav with your phone, i can say that you maybe my twin-bro... i have nearly same problems with each new fone i got...
I always regarded the 2 birds in the bush to be better than one in hand....
One day i read a person's comment on a post(similar to this one - started by me) that no one and nothing is perfect - if they have got a problem or two, learn to live with them, adjustment- a machine can't, but you can....
IMO- there is no need to get a quad core or huge screen or better camera coz one day or other they will get old.Don't get me wrong - i dont suggest to use a nokia 1110, change but only if necessary.....
But still coz you need suggestions, i will suggest nothing other than galaxy note- easily gives 18hrs+ usage if used extensively
And best of luck for your choice
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Upgrading to 4.3 or 4.2?

Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?

lastrastuff said:
Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?
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BOTH HTC and ATT have denied any future updating or support for this device...aka "discontinued" as they say...although its not a bad device and with the resources that HTC has they could easily pull of an update since the one mini is pretty much a clone.
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.

russian392 said:
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.
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Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!

lastrastuff said:
Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!
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Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract

russian392 said:
Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract
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I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?

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I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?
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No i haven't over clocked. i actually under clocked. I run my phone at 1GHz performance governor with deadline as my I/O scheduler.
No google music works fine for me. i have over 160 songs downloaded to the device that i bought.
You can flash a new kernel and idk what the max is on that, but you would need to do a factory reset.