HI I m still a noob in this sh*t.
I can't seem to do updates to my HTC kaiser.
The reason I wanna do that is because I can't install the tomtom that comes with the application cd because my phone tells me that I need to do the updates.
I have an htc orange but I live in Canada so it's unlocked.
ROM version: 3.03.405.0WWE
Date: 01/08/08
Radio version 1.64.06.04
Any help would be very apreciative.
I'm really tryin to find a thread that explains that but I just can't
Thanks
If you want to be more knowledgeable its always good to take a look at the wiki.
As for updates, could you be more specific please? Do you mean a ROM update or a software update? Perhaps posting exactly what the message says would help.
thank you for replying¸
When I go to install the Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716:
On the computer instalation goes normally
Then the pc tells me that I need to chek for additional... on phone
On the phone it says here is the message: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again.
When I go to the HTC website I try to update and I can't do it because when I put my serial code it tells me that my phone is not compatible
Now Ive made some search and found a post saying that ORANGE kaiser can't get the updates for reasons to hi-tech for me to understand. And that if yo actually do it via some type of hack your phone will be locked wish I don t want to happen.
Please help the only reason I bought this phone is for the GPS
I'll keep on trying to understand on xda
All HTC phones are sold with a specific rom for that phone or for that phone's carrier. Your phone is locked to that rom. It is HTC and your carriers way of controlling what rom you flash to your phone. Presumingly to stop people from screwing up their phones by flashing incompatible roms, and then looking to HTC for a new phone.
If you have an Orange phone, then you can only flash roms approved by Orange and the one you are trying to use is apparently not approved. Unlocked, only means that it is sim unlocked, not CID unlocked.
Were you originally trying to update a program or a rom ?
nowa007 said:
The reason I wanna do that is because I can't install the tomtom that comes with the application cd because my phone tells me that I need to do the updates.
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The question is there. What CD? Did it come with the phone or was it bought separately? What Tomtom version? What exactly does it say when it tells you to "do the updates"? Is it Tomtom saying that, or whatever else?
In other words, what exactly do you have at hand now, what are you trying to do and what is the problem encountered?
It will be hard to help you if we can't understand the situation.
Thanks for both replies
When I got my phone wish I bought from europe over the net, it didn t come with the application cd. I wanted to install tomtom on it and because I didn t have the cd then I couldn't do it.
I searched xda-developers site and I found a link to the application cd contents.
I got the folling:
3gnetopt.exe
Installer_Kaiser_BackupTool_5.1.0.b1450_HTC_WWE_20070710
Installer_Kaiser_GPRSMonitor_2.4.5_b938_HTC_WWE_20070710
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716
SpriteBackupEnglishPersonalSetup
Now whenever I try to install any of those the instalation goes perfectly on the PC ( same way when I install anyother program on my PPC) then I get to the part where the PC tells me:
Please chek your mobile device screen to see if additional steps are necessary to complete instalation.
And on my PPC I see: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again.
When I go to HTC website for updates, I enter my serial and it tells me:
can t update because my phone is not compatible
You have to unlock the CID and flash a HardSPL if you are going to install a non-orange ROM. (Yes, this rule applies even if you are going to flash the HTC OEM ROM)
I m goin to do CID-unlock but will that affect my SIM unlock
No. Once your SIM is unlocked, it remains that way.
never mind I got it
Is it normal that when I flashed the new rom it says that I m using 61% of the memory from the start. Insted of the usual 30% for the regular wm6 rom
I have a problem with my device and around the web I can not find much support for it.
Please help me. I have an HTC HD7 t-mobile and I want to update it to NoDo European version. How can I do?
thank you
can someone help me?
up help me please =)
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up help me please =)
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What help do you want??
just install zune sofware on your pc, plug in your mobile phone ,ones your phone is detected. it will take you tru the update and installation.
thats how i got mine, london.
NoDo update
download and run and zune software on you pc, connect your hd7 phone to your pc once the system dictates your phone, it will take you tru the update and installation process. thats how i did mine in london t-mobile....
Guys, I think he has a US T-mobile HD7 and he wants the Euro ROM on it instead of the US one that the Zune might be detecting as soon as he plugs it in.
The only advice I can ask you to try is to first rollback to your previous restore point that Zune allows, and then use the process to debramd the device, via one of the threads in the stickies. Then download the Euro ROM of your choice and flash it via the bootloader mode.
The easiest way is, get a Euro device and sell this. LOL.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Head over to the HD7 Development section. Follow the instruction for unbranding your phone. Once you have the unbranded ROM flashed you can push through the unbranded NoDo ROM.
Beware though, M$ has put out some notices about "jailbroken" devices and their ability to update in the future. Not saying its going to affect anything, just always good to read before jumping in. The more you know...
thanks for the replies, my problem is that I don't also know how unbranding my phone. I only know that my CV is 531.
can you link me please?
Is there any possibility for downgrading OS 7392 to 7004 or 7008 so i can chevron unlock it and then update it on 7392 again? I found many topic's about that but not exact answer on it.
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Is there any possibility for downgrading OS 7392 to 7004 or 7008 so i can chevron unlock it and then update it on 7392 again? I found many topic's about that but not exact answer on it.
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if you update your device maybe you have your back up on your computer.
by using last back up you can downgrade your device.if there isnt any back up on your competer,you should change your device rom!!
Yes it can be done i did it on mine about 2 months back
Here's what I did:
> Downloaded and Flashed RUU_Schubert_O2_UK_1.57.728.02_Radio_5.52.09.16_22.33a.50.10U_Signed_by_ansar
I think I got an error at the end of Flashing (which was supposed to happen)
> Then Downloaded and Flashed RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.16.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.06a_22.30.50.09_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE
This effectively put me back to a Pre-Nodo ROM (can't remember if it was 7004 or 7008). I then Chevron Unlocked it, and installed the ProvXML that prevents it from Re-locking. This allowed me to update to Nodo via Zune and my device remains unlocked allowing me to use Windows Phone Device Manager and such. I must confess though my phone seems to crash and bomb out considerably more than it used to before doing the above (it amlost never crashed out previously.) This might just be me being Paranoid though....
Audio i manage to downgrade to 7004 by ansar but i am not getting any nodo form zune was there any trick to getting zune updates
Audio said:
Yes it can be done i did it on mine about 2 months back
Here's what I did:
> Downloaded and Flashed RUU_Schubert_O2_UK_1.57.728.02_Radio_5.52.09.16_22.33a.50.10U_Signed_by_ansar
I think I got an error at the end of Flashing (which was supposed to happen)
> Then Downloaded and Flashed RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.16.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.06a_22.30.50.09_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE
This effectively put me back to a Pre-Nodo ROM (can't remember if it was 7004 or 7008). I then Chevron Unlocked it, and installed the ProvXML that prevents it from Re-locking. This allowed me to update to Nodo via Zune and my device remains unlocked allowing me to use Windows Phone Device Manager and such. I must confess though my phone seems to crash and bomb out considerably more than it used to before doing the above (it amlost never crashed out previously.) This might just be me being Paranoid though....
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No nothing in between that's pretty much all i did and Zune notified me of the update straight away. Mine was in UK so don't know if that has anything to do with it? :S
well i tried the force update method as well and no luck seems like i am stuck with 7004
I done everything perfectly,but when i come to the part for editing registry i stuck on 4. spot in this manual http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907169
Can someone explane me better this part what i really need to do?
i have a problem i cant install the rom even if i first installed the one signed by ansar and then the Schubert Release on after that, i get an errorcode 294 which means its the wrong rom, what am i doing wrong?
I have an HTC HD7 and i just installed the HSPL on it.
I Downloaded the DFT Freedom Rom (Schubert) mango 7720 V2 version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340127
and when i open the romupdateutility and go through ll the steps i get stuck on the validation step and i get error 260. it states that it cant dertect the phone when it is really plugged in and working. it is chevron and redo unlocked. version 7.0.7390.0. Can anybody help me revise this problem...i really want mango.
I also tried reseting my phone and my computer and im still getting the same error
Im running windows 7 64 bit
is your device in the Bootloader?
Hi,
do you have the same error every time?
try to flash this stock rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984902
then re-install r/hspl and flash dft's...
hope you'll enjoy freedom rom!
I have a question regarding a similar problem once a custom rom is loaded. I want to avoid updating thru Zune and update from the RUU without it deleting my apps, email setup, etc in Bootloader Mode. Anyway to do that?
is your device in the Bootloader?
Yes, I go into the bootloader and can update but does a clean of the rom. I want to upgrade from DeepShining v 4.0 to 5.0 now without it erasing and reinstalling all my apps again. Is there a way to do that?
Nope, not how the WP7 devices work. Because of how WP7 sees the filesystem, it HAS to clear the memory every time you load a different ROM
Is there a way to backup the programs and such, do the update, and restore? I know the Zune software does that in the background when updating via it but is there a way for custom roms to do that?
Hey my question is the following.
Seeing as the Interop Unlock doesn't work for any HTC devices older than version 7720 I'm gonna try the following:
Restore a 7720 backup onto the phone, hard reset it and entirely start over.
Thing is, I dont own a 7720 backup anymore and I really dont wanna try flashing myself.
Question: Can anyone upload his/her 7720 backup from a European HTC HD7 (I'm Belgian btw) so that I can try this proces and hopefully get the interop unlock done this way without flashing?
I wanna start all over for the reason that my phone is draining my battery faster than a $20 hooker when the Navy ships come into port.
[edit]: If I hard reset now it will show up as a Mango phone with 8107 standard on it, which is NOT entitled to be Interop Unlocked, till Heathcliff comes up with something awesome!
[edit2]: In case you still have your 7720 backup available from Zune backup at this moment, you can find it under
"C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update", its the file that looks like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" that I need
[edit3]: I did read that backups are phone specific but it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot as I really dont want to flash
Any help / link to the backup is highly appreciated!
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
sh4d0w86 said:
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
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Well was worth a shot, what I had in mind that if i used that backup, I would have the stuff aka device of said person. Then hard reset and my system would be wiped clean, starting up with 7720.
01) I might try a different radio but I after searching a bit I found a few posts saying that the radio wont do much for the battery, well maybe a bit but not noteworthy.
02) I did try a reset, it starts up with 8107 then, and the battery IS fixed then... problem is, you cant interop unlock anything above 7720, which I kinda really need
03) I've read some tutorials about flashing a custom rom, and they all say to revert back to NoDo before even attempting it... thing is, I cant find any NoDo European rom (the links are dead). And even if I manage to find one (found just the one) its a branded one, while my phone is an unbranded phone.
Also that guide said in the comments that an unbranded phone is only flashable to NoDo with the goldcard method, which I'm not fond of using frankly.
So I guess I just have to wait till Heathcliff comes up with a way to interop unlock v2 mango devices
Thanks for your reply though!
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
sh4d0w86 said:
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01) Ah ok, I might try the radio thing then, only difficulty is that there are so many and no real threads saying which one could be more beneficial than which. (I know much of this is based on the personal device instead of the OS)
Especially I just read that it wont touch the OS, which I initially thought it did in some way.
03) however I did see the tutorial and im inclined to try that as well. The only issue is that I would like to use the 7.5 shipped ROM if any but that leaves me with 3 questions.
--> I see the HTC HD7 non shipped ROMS section, seeing as I'm from Europe there is only one (the european one) non shipped ROM under Mango, are you certain that that is the one I need? aka does that work on my HTC HD7 for sure?
--> Which is the version of that Mango, is that the 7720 I asked in my original thread or is that an updated version, like 7740 or so? (seeing as it says "Test ROM")
--> Or would you recommend using the "Windows Phone 7 Unbranded ROMs (NoDo)" and if so, there are 2 European ones, seeing as I'm a total noob on that, which one belongs to my phone and why? (cause 1 says ROM 3.03 and the other 1.70 which is a huge difference but no clue in what.. :$)
Thanks in advance, the answers gotten have been very helpful so far!
[edit] The ROM I just asked these 2 questions about.. I'm sorry to say this but I can't download it for the simple reason that apparantly the download button wants to go to MegaUpload but that site has been thrown offline by the FBI as you propably know.
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
sh4d0w86 said:
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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For the wiki link, I've found that and I will try this unless the ROM works, seems like a more permanent solution. Its propably some app using battery without me knowing so just wanted to perform a hard reset, which is impossible without my 7720 backup (for interop reasons)
What I didnt really get out of that topic and related ones refered to in that topic is if I pick a radio above the one I now have (the mango with tethering) for say a 5.51...radio from preNoDo, will I lose anything special, like the tethering itself or is that just a "title name"?
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But I have an unbranded phone, wont it be bad to put a branded ROM on there or will that mather be erased when I hard reset after putting the ROM on?
Or am I missing the whole point of Branded ROM here, I thought that had to do with things as if you were a AT&T user or Tmobile user or summit cause I am neither of the above. As I said, first time.
It's just that on some threads for custom HD7 roms I've read that if you have an unbranded phone and want to downgrade: "forget it". Which is exactly what I have imo.
Firmware revision number: 2250.21.51004.401
Bootloader version: 5.10.2250.0 (132968)
[edit] I am that far (I know it's yet to begin ofc) that i've finally started the download of "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a..." file (the only European file under Mango, 7720, the one above Ethernet Sharing)
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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Ok, that does make sense. Way more than the information I read on several other topics, wherefor thank you kindly!
I shall take note of the 06's method to downgrade my bootloader.
That leaves me with 2 small questions, there's a little section called "if RSPL'd and HSPL is desired". I have no clue what that is, should I just follow the steps and do as it says anyways or is that optional (refering to "if desired")?
And secondly, "38. download ROM of choice. Shipped ROMs are available, here."
I am downloading "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe" which should be the correct 7720 ROM for my phone (hopefully?). By "ROM of choice", does that mean I can put Deepshining or NextGen+ on there as well or isnt that an option for my Unbranded HD7? (like they both warn for in their install tutorials)
Now that I think of it my phone is like you said Branded to Europe, which means they warn for "unbranded ROMs" like the one in your siggy's third link amirite?
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But that aside, I thank you very much for the help, it's highly appreciated, now lets hope my HD7 wont brick on me and I'll be a happy man *moves mouse to the "Thank" button*
01. RSPL is a temporary SPL, which reverts back to OSPL after reset. HSPL is a permanent SPL, which replaces OSPL. so, if you don't want to go through the hassle of RSPL'ing every time you want to flash a Custom ROM... i suggest HSPL'ing.
02. with XSPL, one can flash any Schubert ROM, including Custom ROMs, yes.
03. unsure what you are asking, sorry.
Basically what I was asking if flashing the Mango 7720 shipped ROM works, if I could use this method (seeing as the tutorial says "Rom of choice") to Flash NextGen+ instead?
Cause in that tutorial (could be the one from Deepshining too) there's a line that says if you have an unbranded ROM dont even try to downgrade the bootloader cause that'll brick the phone.
But from the info you just gave me I can make up that my phone's ROM is not unbranded but Branded to Europe or am I that far off?
(meaning that I can in fact downgrade the Bootloader and Flash a custommade ROM instead)
[edit] being this kind of a noob and all I kinda got what HSPL and RSPL does, but what is XSPL? You've mentioned it in a previous post in HD7 General but cant seem to find any down-to-earth info. Its not in the tutorial either, unless XSPL just means Bootloader 3.xx or 2.xx, then I got it
So if i want Deepshining (aka custom ROM) I need to do XSPL instead of RSPL or HSPL? (XSPL, for custom Roms, I assume... means I need step 19 instead of 06 or run through everything from bootloader 5 -> 4 -> 3 to get to step 19 aka XSPL)
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Summing up, if I want the 7720 mango I do step 06 and continue at 30.
If I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do step 06 -> 09 and from then on every step till the bottom? If that's correct I got the picture
(Thanks for the effort here btw)
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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Well now you see how much of a student I still am, but yes I think I got it
Refering to your tutorial, I see 2 scenarios
* I want the 7720 mango I do to step 06 and continue at 30.
* I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do to step 06, then continue with 09 and from then on every step till the bottom?
If that's correct I got the picture and my questions are answered entirely
hmm, well, i haven't ever actually tried ansar's SLSPL before... so, i can't tell you what exactly to do after using it. maybe report back here after installing SLSPL, then i can guide you where to go from there?
Ok I will, I'll start right now and see where that brings me, starting off with step 01, downloading Task 29 and 00. Then the SLSPL.
Lets hope for a nonbrick
Ok, I now have
Os version: 7.10.7720.68
Bootloader version 4.5.2250.0
I assume I continue with step 09. in your tutorial if I want Deepshining ROM or stop if I'm happy to interop unlock my phone now and update to 8107 through Zune?
yep, continue to Step 09 on the XSPL Tutorial.
Okiedo, next step
Downloaded "Schubert_Europe_1.54.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U"
Did steps till 18.
Bootloader: 1.54.2250.0
[edit] nevermind what I wrote here, continueing with step 30 seeing as you suggested HSPL instead of RSPL seeing as I read that RSPL voids waranty or summit.
What is the difference "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG1_INSTALL" & "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG2_INSTALL". I know its Gen 1 & 2, but which one do I have and how do I check or is it just NoDo = G1 and Mango = G2, in that case I have to launch G2?
two rar files..? if referring to XSPL, only need FG2 aka the latest version.
There we go, HSPL3.1.2250.0
CotullaHSPL 0x07
So now I have the downloaded and extracted Deepshining ROM, I have "RUU_signed.nbh"
I run Task 29 or the ROMupdateUtlity.exe (inside the ROM) and that should be the end?
[edit] every time Deepshining comes up with a new rom or I want any ROM installed I have to go through all these steps again right? Or can I just flash another ROM on there as I desire, aka an updated version of Deepshining for example?