HTC
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
Saw this on facebook so happy hopefully they will give us something to unlock older devices or give us the keys to the castle
Great to hear that they're listening to criticism from their consumers. I wonder if they'll provide a way to unlock devices that are locked currently.
Ya I hope so shouldn't be to hard to do that really all they have to do is either give us the RSA key or make a program that flashes the bootloaders to be unlocked
What would happen to the sold locked htc device?bring back to them to unlock?
I would assume it requires them to create a signed OTA or RUU update for existing locked-loader phones, which would then include the code for an officially sanctioned unlocking agent. Anyway this is all very exciting. If the T-Mo US Sensation comes out as an open phone it's high on my next-phone list.
I for one welcome our unlocked overlords.
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Good win but it want mean nothing if HTC doesnt go back and unlock the phones already locked.
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Good for HTC, bad for XTC...
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Good for HTC, bad for XTC...
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You mean bad for the people who bought the XTC
Sadly there's no news on whether or not our IncS will be unlocked or not though.
sabret00the said:
Sadly there's no news on whether or not our IncS will be unlocked or not though.
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I think we should wait for HTC for the next.
Because it just a current decision.......for now
HTC will have 2 ways to unlock(I think):
1. Use OTA update to unlock
2. Use Sony's advice (sign up to SE, and SE will give u unlock code)
Just had a small chat with HTC, and of course they couldn't tell a thing. I guess we just have to wait and see what will be happening.
We currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked; Keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked
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I think they will there would be just as many pissed off people if they didn't unlock the inc s the policy wasn't stated all future phones it said the dissolved the bootloader policy meaning the phones that came out will most likely be included ..
But for now I think it stands EVO and sensation are yes inc s no idea .
But my orig post on fb to start it all up talked about inc s ..
But 3d and sensation became the topic very fast ..
I emailed the same guy who gave me info on EVO 3d just now so patients ..
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Great to hear that they're listening to criticism from their consumers. I wonder if they'll provide a way to unlock devices that are locked currently.
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I wrote on their Facebook page and asked about exactly that.. waiting for them to answer
Exanimus said:
I wrote on their Facebook page and asked about exactly that.. waiting for them to answer
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So did I
mazinya said:
You mean bad for the people who bought the XTC
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Not really bad as the older phones are still locked. Thus XTC will still make money off them...
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Not really bad as the older phones are still locked. Thus XTC will still make money off them...
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We.don't.know if HTC will unlock the current models but if they do xtc for HTC devices = what's the point anymore ..
But until they announce it we have no idea but Mr Chou said no longer locking devices its a very undefined answer to my origanal requests on facebook.
if u look was sensation inc s and EVO 3d but as I said the focus quickly turned to just sensation and 3d so only time will tell
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I dont think so.There is no offical file i've seen.
whats making you guys worried? The actual Feedback was mostly from those who had locked devices. Its they who were after HTC to unlock. and its on their wish HTC has decided to unlock bootloaders..
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So mods I know that there is a marketplace but I thought it be appropriate for this one phone...
Go ahead and close this if im wrong. Thanks!
So I have a developer atrix that is factory unlocked, uncapped data speeds, and most importantly an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER.
I was thinking maybe someone here could really use it and would like to buy it to develop as I don't really know what I can do with it.
So ya im willing to sell to help out the xda community...
I am an experienced member here.
Thanks,
Kicknik
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thank you very much
Will do sir
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$1000
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Thanks. But thats why we have a market place
Hey I have a developer or tester model that is factory unlocked aswell. How do I check if the bootloader is unlocked?
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What happens when you boot with Vol + Down?
If i press volume up when booting it starts rsd protocol and volume down when booting it gives fast boot and other options.
Stupid question. If this gets in the hands of a developer who knows what to do can this provide a way to unlock the bootloader on regular phones? I assume not unless someone is able to crack the encryption?
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Stupid question. If this gets in the hands of a developer who knows what to do can this provide a way to unlock the bootloader on regular phones? I assume not unless someone is able to crack the encryption?
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Dont think so, someone else had one a couple of weeks ago. Todblt said it was just unlocked but made no difference as to how to unlock it.
Unsecured engineering devices do not give you any special advantage towards unlocking the bootloader. They do however, give developers a great deal of freedom to safely explore the possibilities of what can be done and are a very rare and valuable asset to any serious hacking endevours.
They often have earlier hardware though and sometimes don't perform up to spec with release consumer devices.
They should be handled very responsibly and access to the engineering builds that they run can be a vital asset too.
so is my bootloader unlocked?
coool!!!!!!!really cool!
It is a big news for today!
u need a locked device for compare the files...and trying rewrite the rights on lock device....soo....
I don't know anything about developing but this seems cool if it gets into the right hands. Can some developer please get his hands on this and start cracking.
Remember if you do get the bootloader unlocked this is waiting for you...
#Atrix #Unlock #Bootloader #Bounty #[OVER 2100 DOLLARS!]
Wasn't the bootloader on the Thunderbolt unlocked by looking at an engineering device with an unlocked one?
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Wasn't the bootloader on the Thunderbolt unlocked by looking at an engineering device with an unlocked one?
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I heard they unlocked it by luck, Apparently it was encrypted as much as the Atrix was.
I emailed geohot about the bounty for the bootloader. I know he could use the money for his legal services against sony. Maybe if more people emailed him, it would get his attention more. I'm hoping for some kind of response from him. His email is [email protected] for other people who would like to try to get his attention.
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Thanks. But thats why we have a market place
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No. Just no. This should definitely get into the hands of a Dev.
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Wasn't the bootloader on the Thunderbolt unlocked by looking at an engineering device with an unlocked one?
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it was locked, but it wasn't signed. so all they had to do was to flash the phone with an unlocked bootloader just like the one we have for the atrix. but since we can't sign it, it wouldn't work.
I got a private message from some a member of this site saying he can remotely S-OFF my phone.
him or her: "hi if you need s-off on incredible S i can do it remotely, what provider is your incredible branded? pay is via paypal after sucesfully done."
me: really? you can remotely unlock my phone? is this even true?
Him or her: If you dont belive its true i can do it for free for you. If you check my webpage you will see that i offer jtag unbricking and other stuff so iam technician, not only fan .
this is his or her site w w w.seth.cz
It is very tempting but I want more insight on this. Any opinions or experiences?
That's really funny ;-)
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Really ! no idea abt that but i can do ... if u in india/mumbai then mail me...
[email protected]
Me: Hi, I saw your post's about Remote S-OFF. How does it work?? I would like to test it with my Incredible S.
sethxp: Only froyo roms supported, i need connect via remote desktop to pc with xp/7 where phones is connected.
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Me: Hi, I saw your post's about Remote S-OFF. How does it work?? I would like to test it with my Incredible S.
sethxp: Only froyo roms supported, i need connect via remote desktop to pc with xp/7 where phones is connected.
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Giving a perfect stranger remote control of your PC seems like an extremely risky idea to me...
I'm sure that this is a bad attempt at fraud!
Rykoshi said:
I got a private message from some a member of this site saying he can remotely S-OFF my phone.
him or her: "hi if you need s-off on incredible S i can do it remotely, what provider is your incredible branded? pay is via paypal after sucesfully done."
me: really? you can remotely unlock my phone? is this even true?
Him or her: If you dont belive its true i can do it for free for you. If you check my webpage you will see that i offer jtag unbricking and other stuff so iam technician, not only fan .
this is his or her site w w w.seth.cz
It is very tempting but I want more insight on this. Any opinions or experiences?
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Theoritically can do via ssh. I have ever tried but he can do for IS running froyo only. Mine is updated by GB. Flashing from ur pc with usb is not different with flashing by net while you are in usa and they guy in australia
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Yea, it seems too risky, or could just be a scammed, just to s-off a phone. I chose to stick with well known solutions or upcoming solution and not by some dude going around trying to s-off your phone remotely for free by sending PRIVATE messages. in other words feeding off impatient people. but who knows i could be entirely wrong about this dude ahaha
Just forget it alpharevx is open bèta!
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
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Is anyone else following this? This is serious and we all need to be aware. Achieving permanent root can't come quick enough! http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/
I read it this morning and I have been following it since the beginning. As soon as there is a perm root I'm flashing a vanilla rom.
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Is anyone else following this? This is serious and we all need to be aware. Achieving permanent root can't come quick enough! http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/
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Fully agree
I've been emailing tech sites about it. It truly baffles me that sites like gizmodo it Engadget haven't reported about this. Join the fight!
you can just temp root your phone and use titanium backup to freeze the two apps IQRD and HTC IQAgent and you should be fine.
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you can just temp root your phone and use titanium backup to freeze the two apps IQRD and HTC IQAgent and you should be fine.
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that's a great idea, however this is also about the principle of the whole thing. Think of all of the people that are affected by this... The majority of customers... something must be done and I hope we can do our part.
I will be using this advise as soon as I get home!
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you can just temp root your phone and use titanium backup to freeze the two apps IQRD and HTC IQAgent and you should be fine.
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Did you test it? I believe it goes much deeper than this? See my original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358896
I had submitted a support ticket with AT&T regarding Carrier IQ. Here's their response:
Dear ???? ???,
Thank you for contacting AT&T regarding removing Carrie IQ settings. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. My name is ?? ?? and I will be happy to assist you with your inquiry.
Mr. ???, I have reviewed the device specifications for the HTC Vivid and the Carrie IQ is part of the operating system of your device. If you attempt to remove this from your device per HTC technical support, this will void your warranty with AT&T and well as HTC. Please feel free to contact HTC directly if further information is needed.
HTC
866-449-8358
6 a.m. to 1 a.m. Eastern Time Monday through Sunday
Again, my name is ?? ?? and I thank you for allowing me the opportunity to assist you with your account. I want you to know that we appreciate your doing business with us several years. If we can be of further assistance, please contact us at http://www.att.com/wireless. Should you have additional concerns or questions about this issue please reply to this email. If you need to contact us again regarding a new issue please send us a new email via the contact link through your online account. As always, thank you for choosing AT&T!
Sincerely,
?? ??
AT&T
Online Customer Care Professional
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Then, I had called HTC (866-449-8358 ), and HTC had forwarded me back to AT&T (23 November 2011). AT&T had promised to get back to me, but no reply since.
ccb101 said:
you can just temp root your phone and use titanium backup to freeze the two apps IQRD and HTC IQAgent and you should be fine.
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except CIQ is more than just a couple of apks. it is in the kernel also. tied in deeply with HTC Sense also. this goes beyond just a couple of apks that you can remove when you root.
This whole thing upsets me more than the locked bootloader issue.
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This whole thing upsets me more than the locked bootloader issue.
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I agree with this.
radi0chik said:
This whole thing upsets me more than the locked bootloader issue.
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I agree. This is disheartening and scary. I do well did alot of mobile banking. Won't now. I'll be flashing my brothers inspire asap.
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I have 2 HTC phones from Canadian carriers and both stock version don't have this iqrd app/rootkit.
But the one from US carrier stock version has this, so looks like carrier regulation in Canada or the app/rootkit is naming something else.
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I've been emailing tech sites about it. It truly baffles me that sites like gizmodo it Engadget haven't reported about this. Join the fight!
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Just sent it to every tech site I follow.
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Youssarian said:
This is truly upsetting. After reading the post, I pulled my battery, took the SIM and SD cards out and relit my old phone. I thought it was bad enough I had to 'de-Google' the thing, (Android being the exception, I *thought*.), but I simply won't use this phone as is. IMHO, I think this is worse than the iPhone thing. Will it get the same publicity, I dunno... I think this information should be forwarded to ftc.gov, fcc.gov, consumerist.com and such. This is corporate piracy of the worst kind.
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from what I understand this isn't just Android/HTC. I think this is any smartphone...
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from what I understand this isn't just Android/HTC. I think this is any smartphone...
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this.
the only real method of getting away from CIQ is AOSP/CM
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this.
the only real method of getting away from CIQ is AOSP/CM
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Well, you can strip it from Sense, but it's hard work.
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Well, you can strip it from Sense, but it's hard work.
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yeah, you need to completely rebuild kernel, framework, and kill Sense ties....
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yeah, you need to completely rebuild kernel, framework, and kill Sense ties....
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Seriously? That's insane. I like Sense, but am willing to completely stop using it for that reason of Carrier IQ unless someone takes the time to make Carrer IQless Sense ROM once we have an unlocked bootloader.
Oh note this has nothing to do with sense or htc. This rootkit exists on all types of devices samsung/motorola/nokia.
Htc phone was just used as example
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... hey guys please sign that petition. Htc's ceo lied and said no more locked bootloaders back in may well the vivid has a locked bootloader. Lets please support our android brothers http://www.groubal.com/htc-vivid-has-locked-bootloader-contrary-to-statements-by-the-company/#sign
I signed it. Seems like it needs quite a few more signatures though.
Didn't they come back and say that the boot loaders would be locked but would provide tools to unlock after you agree to void warranty online? (Similar to what Moto is doing)
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Didn't they come back and say that the boot loaders would be locked but would provide tools to unlock after you agree to void warranty online? (Similar to what Moto is doing)
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That actually makes a ton of sense.
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Didn't they come back and say that the boot loaders would be locked but would provide tools to unlock after you agree to void warranty online? (Similar to what Moto is doing)
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I believe you are correct.
Besides, online petitions don't mean jack.
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Didn't they come back and say that the boot loaders would be locked but would provide tools to unlock after you agree to void warranty online? (Similar to what Moto is doing)
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I believe you are correct.
Besides, online petitions don't mean jack.
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yes. and if you own a RAIDER, which is the version of the vivid for every other country but ours, you can unlock it from htcdev.com. the vivid on AT&T is specifically locked down and cannot be unlocked by using their unlocking tool.
This is specific to the AT&T Vivid, and not specific to the HTC Holiday/Raider
Bummmmmp..,....
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yes. and if you own a RAIDER, which is the version of the vivid for every other country but ours, you can unlock it from htcdev.com. the vivid on AT&T is specifically locked down and cannot be unlocked by using their unlocking tool.
This is specific to the AT&T Vivid, and not specific to the HTC Holiday/Raider
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to expand on this a little more, the issue stems from the fact that the Raider IS unlockable and the vivid is not. when HTC was asked about it, they said AT&T was to blame, when AT&T was confronted, they said its HTC's decision to lock the bootloader. we are being lied to by someone, and at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if it was both companies lying to us. the bs needs to stop and they need to realize that we are customers, we purchase a device, and we want to be in control of that device. if i wanted someone else to control what i do with my device, i would get an iphone.
Wow that's total bullpoop. So much potential in that phone. Good luck
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I hate to be a debbie downer but do these petitions ever really accomplish anything? I signed it as well, but it seems like these are always for nil and nothing ever becomes of the matter. Can anyone provide evidence of a successful online petition that accomplished its intended purpose?
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I hate to be a debbie downer but do these petitions ever really accomplish anything? I signed it as well, but it seems like these are always for nil and nothing ever becomes of the matter. Can anyone provide evidence of a successful online petition that accomplished its intended purpose?
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the bootloader unlock tool came about because of one of these petitions. if i lived in canada, i would have an unlocked bootloader right now because of the petition that caused the htcdev site to exist.
And the unlock of the motorola atrix bootloader came out shortly after one of these was started and had a few thousand signatures.
Not saying these were the sole cause but I'm sure it was at least a factor that helped push the company to unlocking.
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And the unlock of the motorola atrix bootloader came out shortly after one of these was started and had a few thousand signatures.
Not saying these were the sole cause but I'm sure it was at least a factor that helped push the company to unlocking.
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The bootloader unlock for the Atrix came to us because someone gave it to us, not because of a measly petition.
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The bootloader unlock for the Atrix came to us because someone gave it to us, not because of a measly petition.
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I didn't say it did. But it gave statistics to how people felt about it. Specifically over 11,000 signatures. And it got the issue put in front of the media.
http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Why do you think motorola released unlocked bootloaders? Positive public opinion = new customers. That's the whole point of these petitions.
Given to us? *Motorola's* update to gingerbread for the Atrix unlocked all the bootloaders. The alternate unlock method made it so you can flash previous sbf's, and that was made possible from the leaked build of gingerbread *motorola* had made.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-today-or-wait-f/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I don't know if the petition will work, but didn't a good number of people pushed Samsung to update the captivate to Froyo and both companies blamed each other in press statements and soon it was updated?
BTW, I signed
Bump. Please sign folks...itbwill benefit us all the more manufacturers there are with unlocked bootloaders
Signed
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Look ........
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The bootloader unlock for the Atrix came to us because someone gave it to us, not because of a measly petition.
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[sarcasm]
Care to comment?
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A company listening to their customers?
Rare in this age. Good for people with HTC phones and good for HTC for listening to user feedback of their product.
We need your help to unlock all Motorola bootloaders.
Help us by signing the petition to achieve 7500 signatures.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
Regards.
There are 7018 signatures at the moment.
This is for all motorola's phones.
We need ~260 more signatures.
There are 7248 signatures until now.
Signed
Really want to see the Motorola milestone's bootloader get unlocked even though I've moved on
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Just 60 more votes, I cant imagine what kabaldan could do with an unlocked bootloader...
No need to buy another phone ever !
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Just 60 more votes, I cant imagine what kabaldan could do with an unlocked bootloader...
No need to buy another phone ever !
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It's not my intention to destroy your dreams... but you really think Motorola will unlock the bootloader thanks to this petition? However, I signed... maybe a miracle will help us.
7500 signatures reached, and now the goal is 10000... I'm confused
As far as I know the goal is unlimited the more votes the better chance.
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Keeping my fingers crossed
But i doubt... Motorola suites are not gonna listen so easy