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Network usage by 1013?

I was already posting in this thread, but i think this problem is more general.
short summary:
My battery lasts max 8 hrs without heavy use.
I've installed spare parts, and also checked the battery usage in the bootloader screen.
It turns out that most of the network usage is caused by "1013" when i try to get more info, bootloader screen doesn't tell, and spare parts crashes.
Theres also 1010, but this doesn't use much network
Does anyone know which process this is, and how to turn it off, or prevent it from using network and battery?
I've not rooted my device (yet) so please take that into account.
thx!

dial:-
*#*#4636#*#*
then go to battery history
then go to the first drop down and select "network usage"
Enjoy

Thx for your response but that's the exact same overview as spare parts gives me. Its also listed as 1013 on there btw

must be something you've installed :/ not sure anyone will know what it is, it it was routed you may be able to get a deeper insight, but if you don't want to I'd suggesting removing any apps you can think of that it might be until it stops. 'fraid that's all I can suggest.

yeah, i already was going that road,
I do want to root it, but only after i know for certain this device is rocksolid and no need to send it back to HTC because of dust or whatever reason

The battery usage thing happened once for me and I'm pretty sure it was just a program that failed to go to sleep properly. Reboot fixed it just fine and haven't seen it since.

I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.

gtrplr71 said:
I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.
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Can you give some details on how to find this out? What to look for in ddms? All I know how to do with ddms is take screenshots

it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery

I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
Code:
Advanced task killer free
ak notepad
appinstaller
artfulbits aiminesweeper
astro
backgrounds
calculator
chess
unit converter
compass
dolphin browser
enjoy daily sudoku
gameboid lite
gbcoid lite
googles
google pinyin
gtasks
handcent
hi aim
home++
jewllust lite
magicmarker
mahjong
meridian
mobile defense
t mobile my account
pinball
radiant lite
shazam
shop savvy
snake
spare parks
speed test
weather bug

Is 1013 the process ID? Try running a 'ps' from terminal and seeing.

Zephyron said:
I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
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Is there a way to quickly output all apps installed to a text file without root?

no i just went into my app page and typed it all out :/

gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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Unfortunately, my PC isn't in my bedroom I thought it was like a diagnostics tool or something. Like a better version of the Battery History app already on the phone.

gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?

Zephyron said:
when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?
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Don't mount when using ddms. Just plug in phone to PC and leave it.
(Make sure Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB Debugging is turned on before you plug into PC)

Apps i've got installed now which don't cause 1013 popping up:
Code:
apkInstaller
Better Keyboard
Colorflashlight
Compass
Explorer
Goggles
Google Maps
Jewels
Language Pack
Layar
Morelicale
Nu.nl
Quick Settings
Remoid RDP
Shazam
Solitaire
Spare Parts
Wikitude
These apps i've deleted yesterday (a couple more but can't remember)
Code:
Het weer
Speed Test
Snesoid
Weather bug
@Zephyron
Common apps are Speed Test and Weather bug
Speedtest might be it, offc it uses lots of traffic if it keeps running, don't know for sure offcourse, but uninstall it and reboot to see if it fixes things.
@bofslime, i didnt root (yet) so can't run a terminal

My downloaded apps:
Android Terminal Emulator
AnyCut
Battery Indicator
BeamReader PDF Viewer Trial
Bezier - Live Wallpaper
Button Shortcut
CNET Audio by Mediafly
Contact Owner
Digital Clock Widget
Digital Rain - Live Wallpaper
Dolphin Browser
Duck Paper
Earth Live Wallpaper
Fireworks Live Wallpaper
Google Maps
Google Translate
Google Voice
GPS Tracker
KeePassDroid
Linda File Manager 1.4.1
Lines - Live Wallpaper
Magnify
Movies
Multitouch Gallery
NewsRob
Reader Widget Free
SK Sync Client
Slacker Radio
Starfield 3D Live Wallpaper
TasKiller Free
Text Edit
Text-To-Speech Extended
ToggleWifi
Twidgit Lite

paul, do you also get this 1013 process using your network?
i would really like to say its weather bug, but it seems like paul doesnt have it installed nor does he have speed test..

I did two days ago and lost 8% in one night.
I think 1013 is something related to Android System... I killed all running apps with TasKiller last night and did not get any issues. When I woke up this morning, my battery had not lost a single % of power.
I also googled 1013 android and it looks like no one else has ever posted about it on the internet, so the idea that it's something within Android sounds even more likely.

Autostarts (Must HAVE)

Hi fellow XDA'rs.
As most you probably know, the way android and most os's works, every time you start up your device some/many apps startup with it.
This certainly bogs things down on startup but also in the long run when they stay resident idling in mem.
Android allows apps to register for events that are then started whenever triggered.
For example, on my phone prior to getting this app, everytime I pressed the camera button Camera, SMS commander (WTF), ChompSMS (WTFF), and Snaphotopro ran code. I could even see it happening in a task manager.
Sometimes apps stay in memory indefinitely after doing something irrelevant to their function like clicking camera/downloading something .
So I disabled everything except my main camera and everything still works the same, but ONLY SnapPhoto runs code and uses memory.
The real place i think autostarts shines is that it not only allows you to selectively disable what starts on boot, but also control what happens on every event.
It's on the market for like 98cents or some crap, and I REALLY think we should support the dev for this top-notch app.
It does way more for me than overclocking etc.. and i'm not advertising LOL.
What do you guys think??
Stock Apps that May Be Unsafe To Disable
Messaging (Disabling Is Known To Hinder SMS-Retrieval)
Google Talk (Disabling Is Known To Cause Trouble with the Market)
Stock Apps That Appears to be Safe to Disable
Maps (Disabled on startup without issues)
Clock (Disabled on start without any issues thus far)
Camera (Disabled Stock camera from running when camera button is pressed without issue)
Pico TTS (A text-to-speech thing that runs code every time an app is installed Disabled without issue)
MP3 Store (Runs code whenever an app is replaced, disabled, no issues)

i used it before, but i noticed that if you disable some apps on startup, it will make those apps not function anymore. for example, i remember i disabled the default message app and a bunch of other "normal" apps, and then i would not get any SMS anymore or some of my apps stopped loading. also even after you uninstall the app, it would not return to normal. they listed this as a bug for the version i tried so i couldnt restore the apps i disabled.
right now i just use advance task manager and put the one click widget on my home screen. so after every event i get in the habit of just clickin that widget and it iwll close all apps. and everything works fine.

That's true. Disabling messaging will prevent you from getting sms's even if you have chompsms, chomp's main functionality is as a front-end to the messaging app, not the core. This is not the apps fault
The reason I made this post is so we could compile a list of apps that are okay to disable and aren't. I forget to mention that in the OP .
I will edit the first post with the list but I need input from the community.
So far..
Messaging (Disabling Is Known To Hinder SMS-Retrieval)
Google Talk (Disabling Is Known To Cause Trouble with the Market)
For the most part disabling stock apps isn't the brightest idea.
Autostarts will warn you when you try to disable a stock component.
Also you can view only non-stock apps, if you don't want to mess with the settings.
Some can be disabled without any apparent trouble.
In my case..
Maps (Disabled on startup without issues)
Clock (Disabled on start without any issues thus far)
Camera (Disabled Stock camera from running when camera button is pressed without issue)
Pico TTS (A text-to-speech thing that runs code every time an app is installed Disabled without issue)
MP3 Store (Runs code whenever an app is replaced, disabled, no issues)
There are several more instances of the same apps that are disabled.
So far no FC's or problems. I've reduced the amount of times I need to end all apps by about 90%
Feel free to help add to the list!

I don't disable any stock apps as they seem to die by themselves after a while. Meanwhile I disable pretty much all 3rd party apps (except things like Sim Checker).
This app is amazing!
By the way, if you disable "Widget updating" it also removes unwanted widgets (I tend not to use any).

Glad it's working well for ya Karolis.
Thanks for the tip!
I havent actually tried it, but i'll remember that if I ever have too many widgets in the list.
Another tip is to check out Menu -> View.
You can enable the unknown's and have more options to disable

Is anyone else annoyed by devs who don't allow their apps to be purchased through your T-Mobile account? Something about putting $0.99 on my credit card annoys me. No biggie, but it would be nice if that option was available for this app.

TeeJay3800 said:
Is anyone else annoyed by devs who don't allow their apps to be purchased through your T-Mobile account? Something about putting $0.99 on my credit card annoys me. No biggie, but it would be nice if that option was available for this app.
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Well what can we do except take it

I use Startup Auditor, works pretty well, compared to Autostarts. I also believe it doesn't list anything that would damage your bootup.

tehseano said:
I use Startup Auditor, works pretty well, compared to Autostarts. I also believe it doesn't list anything that would damage your bootup.
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I hadn't heard of Startup Auditor either, but after reading about it, it seems a little more appealing than Autostarts. Especially the part about not disabling anything important from starting. Thanks!

Startup auditor isn't bad.
It doesn't have even a third of the options as autostarts though.
I tried it and although the GUI was nice, and it worked, the lack of choices made me uninstall it in a matter of minutes.
Also, if you're worried about messing up your phone with autostarts just go to Menu -> View -> Hide System Apps and its pretty much the same thing as startup auditor.

I just purchased Startup Auditor and it seems like a nice app. However, I disabled a few apps and then rebooted. When the reboot finished, some of the apps that I had just disabled were still running! I've e-mailed the dev and will post if I get a response. Has anyone else experienced this with Startup Auditor or any other startup app?

I've been using Autostarts for a while and I really notice the difference on boot up time. Before Autostarts it would take forever to boot up the system, then it would be super sluggish. Now since it doesn't start nearly half the apps on boot, it's much faster.
Some apps I question on why it's doing what it's doing. Like Tunewiki for instance. Why does it need to start when an application is replaced or removed? Cleared those out and everything is much speedier!

A lot of them are triggered by strange things.
Like you said, tunewiki when adding or replacing an app.
I think this is their way of staying in the background, which speeds up opening tunewiki but at the cost of slowing everything else down.
I hate developers that do this..

How does the system determine which apps to run at boot?

Whenever i try to disable the amazon mp3 autostart the program tells me to wait and gets stuck on the please wait screen... Any clue if this is normal operation?

amazon mp3 does not seem to want to be disabled.
edit: i think i figured out the problem with amazon mp3. you have to disable it in two places, once in the after startup but also in the connectivity changed section. also i was having trouble with other programs but i forgot i those had widgets. i think for apps that have widgets will cause those apps to load on start up. if you want to disable them you have to do so in the widgets section. just dont do it for widgets you actually have in use.

Does this app not work on latest superd? i get fc everytime on g1.

Anyone know where there are two (2) Messanger apps AND two (2) Handcent apps listed for after startup?
Seems like I should be able to disable messanger, but from these posts perhaps not.... can I disable handcent with no issues... seems like a text received would trigger it to open with no problems.
Why (and can I stop) is Voice Dialer involved with all changes to applications (installed/removed)?

s15274n said:
Anyone know where there are two (2) Messanger apps AND two (2) Handcent apps listed for after startup?
Seems like I should be able to disable messanger, but from these posts perhaps not.... can I disable handcent with no issues... seems like a text received would trigger it to open with no problems.
Why (and can I stop) is Voice Dialer involved with all changes to applications (installed/removed)?
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I was wondering this too. Maybe it starts to read the app names so it can "read" the filename so if you call it through Voice Search it knows what app to call up. Not sure.

Imho, this app is absolutely amazing.
I had the problem, that although i am using Handcent only, still every text was shown as new in the message application as well (and the icon on the homescreen shows one new message). Now i have removed message completely - only my handcent widget shows any test infos
Besides that, i could disable a lot of useless or at least strange applications starts triggered by certain events.
In this point of view, it's very useful, for Galaxy S as well!

Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they have no services or function

As topic.
5.0.6 via kang
Just did a full restart so I can get the full picture, this is what is open, sorted into categories of stuff which does have services (which im happy with), those with services (which i think ive dissabled and shouldnt be there), those with no services which shouldnt be there:
services and happy:
HTC IME mod
live wallpapers
email
calendar
auto memory manager
news and weather
google mail
music
setcpu
3g watchdog
juice defender + plotter
beautiful widgets
engaget
helixlauncher
taskiller [what im looking at it with]
services and not happy:
clock
bluetooth share
cm updater (ive turned it to manual only)
bluetooth file transfer
finance (ive told it NOT to update, i dont use it really)
camera (does it need to sit open in the background?)
notes
klaxon
cachemate
appbrain market sync
mp3 store
weatherbug elite
no service and dont want:
shopsavy
police stream
Does anyone know of any program i can use to directly stop these unwanted apps to stop running every time, or any individual information on the programs?
cheers

Why do you not want them preloaded?

The main reason im being such a memory whore is because my launcher lags like crazy under 70-80mb. I have 250ish apps, and see many people with a similar setup demonstrating on youtube, and theirs is instantly responsive, as is mine >120mb free. If I leave all these apps etc free, i end up on ~40mb which makes my old nokia 6300 looks like flash gordon compared to my launcher :/

Re: Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they
Android preloads apps into its memory for fast load times.
Just because an app is loaded does not mean it is using any resources. They're usually just sitting there idle. Android also frees up memory as needed.
That said, I've seen apps that can control what apps you never want preloaded. Search around on the market.
Looks like the slowdowns from a lack of ram still exist. I hope froyo will help with this. This problem makes the lower end android phones run slow.
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Phone issues

So i just purchased a htc hero about a week ago and i'm having some problems.
1) phone lags really bad i thought maybe cause i had music on my sd card or a few apps but after deleting them it lags just as bad. Is there any way to end the lag or is that just the way the phone is?
2) track ball, menu, home buttons, etc.. do not light up all the time or will randomly flash.
3) I have been reading about rooting the phone, but have the Build # 2.27.651.6 and read that i have to downgrade to the .5, but i have no idea how to back up all my information(numbers, pictures, media etc..)
I would extremly apperciate any help that anyone can provide, Because this is the first " smart phone" i have ever purchased and i'm really forward to being able to root the from and do things i never knew a phone could do.

2. The lights are based on the light sensor. You block the light getting to it and the trackball, LEDs, etc light up.

3.
Numbers: you can either download HTC Sync here http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=933&news_id=631 which will sync your contacts to Outlook
or if you prefer, you can of course sync via Google contacts. Settings > Accounts & sync > Google > check Sync Contacts and let it sync
Pictures and media: just backup everything on your SD card. Connect phone to PC, and when prompted on the phone, click mount as Disk drive. Open the sd card via My Computer, and copy and paste everything onto your PC.
Edit: I just realized, changing a ROM/downgrading/etc won't affect your SD card at all. You don't have to worry about backing up pictures and media, they will just stay on your SD card unharmed. You could always make a backup if you feel paranoid, though.
If you want a quick speed boost and don't really care for Sense UI, try downloading LauncherPro from the market. It's free and a really fast home replacement.

c00ller said:
...try downloading LauncherPro from the market. It's free and a really fast home replacement.
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I agree. I love it. More customizable than Sense, too. Well, if you're not a widget freak. I only use a few and I got them from the Market or they were the stock Android ones.

Well i downloaded the launcherpro and it didn't stop the lag. It still lags when i open text messages or go through my contacts.

Streetking10 said:
Well i downloaded the launcherpro and it didn't stop the lag. It still lags when i open text messages or go through my contacts.
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LauncherPro helps with gerneal home screen navigation speed.
And yeah I hate the HTC messaging app lag. I switched to Handcent (free). It opens everything way faster. I don't go through my contacts through the People app often so it doesn't bother me.
Another tip: download Spare Parts (free) and set window and homescreen animations to Fast (or if you really don't care, None).

I downloaded Spare Parts and Handcent and it helped out quite a bit. Now i have a nother issue I tried to root my phone last night but had to do the downgrade to the .5build but everytime i tried it kept saying USB ERROR 170 or something like that...

battery died overnight

I charged my phone last night to 100% and unplugged it.
When I woke up now it was off. So I turned it on. It went to the LG screen, then Rogers, then went black. Tried it again, same thing.
So I plugged it into the wall and the silver battery icon came up flashing. 5 minutes later now it has 1 red bar.
Why would it die over night? Nothing was running.

It might be because of a widget,not stock.

Yeah.....u definitely had something running in the background.

Make a list of all apps you have installed.
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Same happened to me about 4 times.
Its usually a sync process that drains the phone. I guess Exchange server sync.

well I recently installed Go Launcher. I always go application manager and stop all when I am not using the phone though.
Other than this the battery has been better on gingerbread.

ok there are a few apps that keep starting up even though I stop all applications.
- messaging
- rom manager
- youtube
- winamp
- google +
how can I stop them from constantly opening?
youtube and winamp are both widgets on my screens. but on stock froyo if I "stop all" they wouldn't suck up power or anything.
I never use google + so I don't know why it's there.
rom manager don't use anymore since I am not rooted.

If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them

xstokerx said:
If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them
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titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2

umirin said:
titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2
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the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles

xstokerx said:
the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles
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I know I read task killlers are not worth it.
But as I said, this did NOT happen with Froyo 2.2.2.
I don't even use google +, why would it ever open?
I didn't open my email, SYNC IS OFF. Yet it's there.
Messaging is open, not texting anyone. In froyo I always killed messaging when I was done. It never came back.
ROM manager has no reason to be open since I am not rooted.

apps like Rogers navigation - NEVER use just randomly pop up in the application manager.
Someone must have an answer for this.
My phone is NOT rooted. Stock gingerbread 2.3.

Hey umirin,
I too had noticed that the phone would constantly restart random apps that weren't being used, despite seemingly nothing happening. It pissed me off to no end, but the reason why it happens is because the programmers write in queues for the programs to start, such as 'screen on,' 'screen off,' and my personal favorites, 'wifi state change' and 'connectivity change.' There's an app called autostarts on the market (it costs about a dollar i think) that will let you disable all of these, so now I have no random apps starting and my battery life is much better There are free ones on the market you can try as well just to see, but they didn't give me nearly the access to all the queues that autostarts does. It's a damn good app. Also, if you want to freeze apps and you don't want to fork out for the paid version of Titanium Backup, AntTek App Manager can freeze all the apps you want for free good luck improving your battery life, I just bought a 3500 mAh battery on amazon to improve mine lol and now the phone is a beast.

the phone is just storing them in ram its not using cpu cycles or battery wile in ram its so if you do use the apps it loads faster

True, while it is in the ram it does not use CPU cycles. But when it loads them, it does. I've also noticed the phone slow down noticeably and even crash when there's tons of apps left in the memory. For some reason it just doesn't handle cleaning up the unused ones very well. But there are some apps that simply don't need to be loaded every time common events occur on the phone, such as changing connectivity from wifi to the cellular network. Consider this. You leave those (useless) background programs to load when the phone changes connectivity. Then you start your browser, which uses a considerable amount of ram. To make room for the browser, the operating system SHUTS THESE BACKGROUND PROGRAMS DOWN. Stay with me here. Later on, when your phone inevitably changes connectivity again, guess what those little background programs do? They start up again. And that consumes CPU cycles and battery. And they're used for nothing, which means all they amounted to is wasted CPU cycles and battery. In my opinion, it is sloppy programming by the app developers to require their apps to start every time an event like that happens. It consumes resources that are precious on a mobile system such as a cell phone. But it is very useful to leave commonly used apps such as your messaging service or browser in the memory. In fact, the messaging app was the only app I left to start on most of the events on the phone for that exact reason. It's just things like ROM manager and Titanium Backup starting themselves up just to hang out that is a waste.

Your right that's how it works but can't do any thing about it ecsept what was posted above
so strange i left my phone on all night just to see and i only lost 2 percent??

ok why does this do it in gingerbread 2.3 but it didn't do it in froyo 2.2.2?

Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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I got the LG Updater tool from the LG website. As far as I know the update was for Rogers Customers. Updated from Froyo -> Gingerbread. But there are problems with the GB Baseband with ghost calls. The update here was released Feb 1, 2012. I'm just hoping they don;t say "We gave you the Gingerbread update so no Icecream Sandwich until 2013"

yeah figures att and lg couldn't do us all a favor