I charged my phone last night to 100% and unplugged it.
When I woke up now it was off. So I turned it on. It went to the LG screen, then Rogers, then went black. Tried it again, same thing.
So I plugged it into the wall and the silver battery icon came up flashing. 5 minutes later now it has 1 red bar.
Why would it die over night? Nothing was running.
It might be because of a widget,not stock.
Yeah.....u definitely had something running in the background.
Make a list of all apps you have installed.
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Same happened to me about 4 times.
Its usually a sync process that drains the phone. I guess Exchange server sync.
well I recently installed Go Launcher. I always go application manager and stop all when I am not using the phone though.
Other than this the battery has been better on gingerbread.
ok there are a few apps that keep starting up even though I stop all applications.
- messaging
- rom manager
- youtube
- winamp
- google +
how can I stop them from constantly opening?
youtube and winamp are both widgets on my screens. but on stock froyo if I "stop all" they wouldn't suck up power or anything.
I never use google + so I don't know why it's there.
rom manager don't use anymore since I am not rooted.
If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them
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If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them
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titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2
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titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2
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the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles
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the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles
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I know I read task killlers are not worth it.
But as I said, this did NOT happen with Froyo 2.2.2.
I don't even use google +, why would it ever open?
I didn't open my email, SYNC IS OFF. Yet it's there.
Messaging is open, not texting anyone. In froyo I always killed messaging when I was done. It never came back.
ROM manager has no reason to be open since I am not rooted.
apps like Rogers navigation - NEVER use just randomly pop up in the application manager.
Someone must have an answer for this.
My phone is NOT rooted. Stock gingerbread 2.3.
Hey umirin,
I too had noticed that the phone would constantly restart random apps that weren't being used, despite seemingly nothing happening. It pissed me off to no end, but the reason why it happens is because the programmers write in queues for the programs to start, such as 'screen on,' 'screen off,' and my personal favorites, 'wifi state change' and 'connectivity change.' There's an app called autostarts on the market (it costs about a dollar i think) that will let you disable all of these, so now I have no random apps starting and my battery life is much better There are free ones on the market you can try as well just to see, but they didn't give me nearly the access to all the queues that autostarts does. It's a damn good app. Also, if you want to freeze apps and you don't want to fork out for the paid version of Titanium Backup, AntTek App Manager can freeze all the apps you want for free good luck improving your battery life, I just bought a 3500 mAh battery on amazon to improve mine lol and now the phone is a beast.
the phone is just storing them in ram its not using cpu cycles or battery wile in ram its so if you do use the apps it loads faster
True, while it is in the ram it does not use CPU cycles. But when it loads them, it does. I've also noticed the phone slow down noticeably and even crash when there's tons of apps left in the memory. For some reason it just doesn't handle cleaning up the unused ones very well. But there are some apps that simply don't need to be loaded every time common events occur on the phone, such as changing connectivity from wifi to the cellular network. Consider this. You leave those (useless) background programs to load when the phone changes connectivity. Then you start your browser, which uses a considerable amount of ram. To make room for the browser, the operating system SHUTS THESE BACKGROUND PROGRAMS DOWN. Stay with me here. Later on, when your phone inevitably changes connectivity again, guess what those little background programs do? They start up again. And that consumes CPU cycles and battery. And they're used for nothing, which means all they amounted to is wasted CPU cycles and battery. In my opinion, it is sloppy programming by the app developers to require their apps to start every time an event like that happens. It consumes resources that are precious on a mobile system such as a cell phone. But it is very useful to leave commonly used apps such as your messaging service or browser in the memory. In fact, the messaging app was the only app I left to start on most of the events on the phone for that exact reason. It's just things like ROM manager and Titanium Backup starting themselves up just to hang out that is a waste.
Your right that's how it works but can't do any thing about it ecsept what was posted above
so strange i left my phone on all night just to see and i only lost 2 percent??
ok why does this do it in gingerbread 2.3 but it didn't do it in froyo 2.2.2?
Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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I got the LG Updater tool from the LG website. As far as I know the update was for Rogers Customers. Updated from Froyo -> Gingerbread. But there are problems with the GB Baseband with ghost calls. The update here was released Feb 1, 2012. I'm just hoping they don;t say "We gave you the Gingerbread update so no Icecream Sandwich until 2013"
yeah figures att and lg couldn't do us all a favor
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I think there are flaws to the way android operates. Let's take Windows operating system for example. I have hundreds and hundreds of programs, software and applications -- but is it running all the time? Nope.
When I reboot my Android phone, I hit the "advanced task manager" widget to close all running apps (sometimes I get 45-50). About 2 mins later I do it again (and now 30 close)
The question begs to be asked. Why, if they are being closed, are they opening up again by themselves ? How do I make it so they don't open up by themselves ?
The "auto-killer" in the task manager is set at the highest level (insane) and yet it STILL has 20-30 apps "open" every time I hit task manager.
This phone is incredibly laggy.
(2.1 eclair, stock, no root, no OCLF)
Those apps aren't actually running and eating cpu cycles, they are stored in ram so when you do open one of them or another app requests them it doesn't take so long or lag. If your phone is slow I would do a factor reset because these phone are not slow. Hope that works!
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I've only had my phone less than a month (after doing a reset because of what I perceived to be a faulty SD issue)
Maybe it's time I should start messing around with the flashing etc.
spectre85 said:
Those apps aren't actually running and eating cpu cycles, they are stored in ram so when you do open one of them or another app requests them it doesn't take so long or lag. If your phone is slow I would do a factor reset because these phone are not slow. Hope that works!
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Says the guy running a speed mod kernal lol
I'd suggest factory reset, plugging into PC and upgrading to v2.2 via Kies, then get v2.2.1 from Kies if you want or samfirmware.com
You can use titanium to backup all your user apps and data, works a treat.
Contacts can be synced with your google account (if they aren't already).
SMS can be backuped if you wish using one of the free apps in the market.
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I've only had my phone less than a month (after doing a reset because of what I perceived to be a faulty SD issue)
Maybe it's time I should start messing around with the flashing etc.
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Until I started flashing custom ROMs my SGS was quite laggy...flashing is the way to go, just make sure you do your research. Check the link in my signature for a load of guides.
On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
411 Search
AutoRun
Backup Assistant
Bing
BitBop
Blockbuster
Bookmarks Widget
City ID
com.android.LGSetupWizard
com.android.providers.applications
come.lge.mobilehotspot
DeskHome
Digital Clock Widget
Email
Email Widget
Friends+ Widget
Guided tours
Home 2.2.2
In Touch Widget
Lets Golf
LGWirelessChargingService
LTE Test Application
Message Widget
Mobile IM
Music Visualization Wallpapers
Netflix
News 1.0
Polaris Office
Rhapsody
Rock Band
Setup Wizard
SmartShare
Software update
Sync Service
Today+Widget
VCast Apps
VCast Media Manager
VZ Navigator
Weather
What's New
What's New Widget
Wi-Fi control widget
World clock widget
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On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
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Ya, coming from the incredible, even stock I would have 100-150 mbs of ram, and rooted I'd have usually 180-210. This phone, having the same amount of ram as that, will be anywhere from 30-100 usually. That's some pretty bad bloat.
In 3g only network, the phone actually has a really good battery(compared to the incredible), I can go all day without root so far, the baddest part is the % i lose just sitting there without use and the screen off, it sucks.
And have you been able to assign Google where Bing had priority before? I have the bing search relatively good, just really laggy.
Thanks for this list! I had started to experiment but kept it on the safe side since we don't have a recovery yet.
I noticed that there is quite a bit more listed in Bloat Freezer over Titanium which was my first freeze app. I tried Bloat Freezer when I noticed that some things that were frozen were still showing running processes.
A couple of notes to add on to this -- I'm running Go Launcher and cannot use any of the LG specific widgets, Friends+, What's New, etc. but:
What's New is still running and has functionality beyond the What's New widget. I forget the details but I think on a missed call I got the What's New app to display missed call, sms and email count from the pull down alerts. It was late and I didn't think twice about it until the next day (which is what prompted me to find out what was still running in the background even though I'm using Go Launcher.
I'm not sure exactly which Verizon app is responsible, but i recently unfroze all Verizon specific apps while experimenting and I was prompted to try the new data usage widget from Verizon. When I originally froze all these apps, that widget had stopped working in stock home. So it is not dependent on your home/launcher, but it is dependent on one of the VZ apps.
I'm tempted to just go down your list and freeze everything all at once, but maybe I'll do it in small batches and report back any findings.
Again, thanks for the list!
Wow, that is a ton of frozen bloatpops... didn't think too much of it but that's more apps than i had on my Inc. total on CM.. lol.
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hmm.. how to restore search button?
I can confirm the following, as well:
DeskHome
Digital Clock widget
Email
Email widget
finance
friends+ widget
guided tours
home 2.2.2
lg keyboard
lgwirelesschargingservice
news 1.0
rhapsody
slacker
sns
v cast apps
v cast media manager
vs navigator
vzw package installer
vzw sms filter
vzwservice
weather
world clock widget
I also just completely uninstalled bing search + bing voice.
I seem to be experiencing a couple issues:
1. Search button did not remap to Google Search... so it does nothing at all
2. Lockscreen music controller seems to control a separate instance of the notification area music controller
Avail: 154MB +29MB in 4
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I've gone through most of these without a problem -- the last one is VZWSERVICE which is now repeatedly popping up:
Sorry!
The application com.vzw.push.vzwservice (process com.vzw.push.vzwservice) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
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Every time I click on "force close" it just pops up again. I'm about to pull the battery.
...
Rebooted OK.
I'll add a few more to the list:
Amazon Kindle
Bing Voice
Quick Reference Guide
User Guide
I'm curious though what purpose do these serve:
SNS
VZW SMS Filter
VZWService
I have them frozen and already recieved an SMS, so no hindrance there. I recognize the SNS icon from when I first got the phone (one of the widgets I think). I can't see any effect of having them frozen other than the obvious of course.
Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
the ones i posted can be frozen with no incident.
of course i use a custom launcher (launcher pro) so i can't attest to the home screen working
however, after freezing some other apps listed in other posts my bluetooth wouldn't work...
I use Go Launcher and I was able to add a few to the lists above:
Tunewiki
Sync Service
Mobile IM
Messaging Widget
Messaging (I use GO SMS)
Does anyone know what the LG and Verizon hidden menus processes are?
System seems a lot faster now and has better battery as far as I can tell.
Only issue I can think of, is that When I have my BT earpiece on and connected, I can not seem to get music out of the 3.5mm jack and into the car's aux.
Anyone else have this problem? What is the solution?
What wifi tether is everyone using? My market won't update. So if anyone can post an apk that'd be great.
Also don't freeze autorun 1.0 i think it is. That is the connectivity option for our usb and hdmi slots. Without that it'll work but you can't change the options ever. So you'll be stuck with hdmi off or on and usb charge only cause i think it always starts as.
Little Buddy Sr.
OP:...just a thought, take it or leave it haha
It would be greatly appreciated if you could update the list every so often with new ones added throughout the thread. Then maybe this could become a sticky at some point.
Also:
Anyone else realize Latitude and Twitter for LG doesnt show up in Ti Backup yet is running every once in awhile.... or maybe it's just my phone?
Um I don't even remember twitter being on my phone, I use bloatfreezer and pretty much froze everything on the OP list. I don't think there is to much else that you want to freeze with out risking your phone
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Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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If you use the stock launcher and then freeze Home 2.2.2 then you will have no home screen.
I use Go launcher EX so I was able to freeze home with no problems.
Only thing I can think of is a factory reset. But I'm sure others have better ideas.
I don't think Twitter for LG (or anything for LG) is active without the LG Home active.
I left lg home active, twitter doesn't show up anywhere in bloatfreezer. I have nothing on my phone that even refers to twitter.
Yea i'm not really sure where it's at. I think it's a sub-app(?) of something like one of those facebook/twitter/etc feed widgets. But every so often it shows up in my "running" folder on Go Launcher EX, and I used to see it in my task killer when I had one but i've never seen it on a list anywhere else.
rogue bloat? a new age in ruining our phones haha
As major said, and from what i've seen he's right 99% of the time, I haven't seen it since I froze/.bak LG Home. I'll post a screen shot if I end up seeing it again though
is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?
jxcgunrunna said:
is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?
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we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.
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we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.
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I will pick one up tonight and see what I can do once I get root and CWM on there. I will post my findings.
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Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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Hopefully you have this fixed already if not:
not sure if this will work but...connect your phone as a USB and hope it connects as a Mass Storage. Go into data/app and delete the Titanium Backup .apk
No idea if this will work, but it's possible that with TiBackup gone it will unfreeze everything.
I'm running CM7 and I'm happy with how it performs compared to stock rom. I see improvement in battery and memory usage. So that's good.
However, some apps like facebook, maps, tango etc still appear to become active in the background.
Is there an application which will easily let me manage rights for every app I have on the device? I dont want to freeze them, just change their permissions so they never do anything unless I intentionally start an app.
When I was on stock ROM i tried an app killer with auto kill. So i'd kill apps that were displayed. Check back a few minutes later and everything was back running again..
So to sum up..a good app manager that works nicely with CM7?
Edit: i found something called privacy blocker but I think that wont let me prevent apps from running by themselves....
Edit-2: Nevermind, its not going to work I think...reading this made me realise that some apps me be terminated at start-up, but preventing from booting at a later point is near impossible. Too bad. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14889
Just ignore them, Android knows how to manage it's RAM effectively.
If you won´t use some apps, use TitaniumBackup (from Market) and freeze apps you are never using.
So i just installed the O3D leaked Rom on my Thrill last night. i noticed this morning that there were 9 apps open. i stopped all, and they were open again within 5 minutes. i froze some of them, but some are apps i use occasionally, but i dont always want them open.
Any ideas on how to keep these apps from opening automatically??
Its just a part of how Linux manages memory. It doesn't necessarily affect performance, but if it makes you feel better, you can install autostarts and disable states at which those apps start.
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I checked that out and I'm kind of scared to turn some of these off. My main reason for wanting to cut these off is because the battery is dead in 4 hours. This started happening after the gb update. Do you have any suggestions to increase batt life? I already have gps and bt disabled.
Juice defender for one. Instead of a task killer, use autokiller and use one of the presets like aggressive. Autostarts again, sort by app, and disable all of the crap for all events. Turn wifi sleep to when screen is off. If you have a bunch of google accounts syncing, turn off the sync for the services you dont us or need in account and sync settings. Should help quite a bit. Oh, remove unnecessary widgets especially fb and google search (lots of resources, its weid). Remove apps you dont use.
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I have an LG Thrill running O3D gb 21a rooted. I have noticed the same issue.
I installed super manager(search in app market) and turned on the auto memory cleanup. Now everytime I lock my phone and unlock it,I have about 250mb free memory.
Hey all - weird situation here. For the last few days or so my battery has been draining *really* fast and the phone is very warm. Yesterday I went to the battery settings to see what the culprit was and it was an Amazon app that I *never* open - so I disabled it. Same thing today. This time:
17% - Android OS
12% Amazon app suite
12% Email
11% DJI Go, a drone-control app.
I haven't opened anything Amazon ever (bloatware) or DJI GO in at least a month. How are apps I'm not even opening draining my battery? They're not running - at least not that I can see in the task manager. And e-mail? Nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm grateful for any theories as to exactly what the crap is going on with my beloved phone!!
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Hey all - weird situation here. For the last few days or so my battery has been draining *really* fast and the phone is very warm. Yesterday I went to the battery settings to see what the culprit was and it was an Amazon app that I *never* open - so I disabled it. Same thing today. This time:
17% - Android OS
12% Amazon app suite
12% Email
11% DJI Go, a drone-control app.
I haven't opened anything Amazon ever (bloatware) or DJI GO in at least a month. How are apps I'm not even opening draining my battery? They're not running - at least not that I can see in the task manager. And e-mail? Nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm grateful for any theories as to exactly what the crap is going on with my beloved phone!!
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Let's talk about that disabling in a minute. I'm confused about that. First, however...
Some apps run in the background even though you have not manually opened them or are using them. The developers do this so they will open VERY FAST when you do click on them and they don't care your battery is being used. This is why I use Greenify -- I can put almost all apps like that into forced hibernation. IF/when I ever do use the apps, I click, they open. When I close them, Greenify puts them back into hibernation. (I don't use the Xposed version of Greenify, just the Greenify app.)
Obviously you don't want to Greenify something like your email app, weather widget, Facebook or anything that needs to be running in the background so you can get notifications. The apps you Greenify are the apps which like to run in the background even though you are not using them.
By any chance are you using Amazon photos backup service? I do. It's like Dropbox or Google Photos backup service. Photos and videos you take are uploaded for backup. If you have that turned on, that could be why Amazon stuff is still running? Just a guess.
Now, you say you disabled Amazon? How? Freezing it through Titanium Backup? Because if you froze it, there's no way it should be running at all. Which is why Greenify is better than freezing in most cases. I only TB freeze something which may need to by physically present for my OS to run correctly but which I do not want to run. There's some redundant CM ROM apps I freeze, as I don't want to take a chance on physically removing them, only to find out stuff crashes because it was important in some way I didn't realize. Freezing totally disables the app, and it won't even show up in your app drawer. If you unfreeze it, then it's there again. So, how did you disable it?
Chazz, you seriously are a real life superhero of my phone. You helped me get my GF a Maxx a few months ago - man, thank you so much!
Yeah, so I "disabled" some of these apps by actually trying to uninstall them (like Amazon), realizing they're bloatware, and instead dragging the icon up to "App info", where I have the option to force-stop or "disable" - whatever that is.
Here are a few screenshots from today:
So Android OS, Email, and Amazon app suite, none of which I've spent any real time on using, are having a race to see who can meaninglessly drain my battery the fastest. DJI GO, which again I haven't opened in a month, comes in at a distant 4th. I barely used my phone today except for about an hour of Pandora and maybe 30 mins of browsing.
Greenify - gotcha! Downloaded it and trying to kill some of this stuff - but nothing Amazon even appears in the listing of all apps. And email? What the heck? I can't really lock my e-mail out. It's just so strange that apps that I'm not even using are the ones draining the battery - any chance this could be a virus? Last I was paying attention, that wasn't much of a concern on Android...have I just had my head in the sand?
Many thanks again - I really appreciate the help!
In Greenify app, hit the "+" sign (on upper right of the app display) and it will show you more apps you can hibernate. I have over 200 apps, so I actually had to hit the "+" sign a couple of times to see the complete list. I think the initial offering is the low-hanging fruit.
For instance it will show my my Flashlight app. Right. I don't need my flashlight app running unless I am actually using my flashlight! So, I "greenify" it. It hibernates until I open the app. Once I close the app, THEN it goes back into hibernation until I need it again.
Right, you shouldn't lock lock out email. Is that personal email or work? I notice it's not Gmail. What are your fetch settings on that app? I have mine set for every 5 minutes. On my work email, it's an Exchange push server based so it's instant, but on my personal email (not Gmail), I have the IMAP fetch settings for 5 minutes. On some email apps you can even set fetch/check for every 30 seconds. That's a lot of pinging and could be draining the battery. Just a guess.
Seems to be working great, Chazz - thank you so much!!!