defy bootmenu for 2nd-init works with bugs - Atrix 4G Android Development

This may ****brick your phone******
0riginal link to topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
i have managed to install this and boot into the bootmenu, the screen is distorted tho so cant see what the menus actually are.
install apk from market called "defy 2ndinit" open app and install the bootmenu, it will pull files from the net to install.
there will be a blue led on at all times aswell even when phone is booted normally
power off phone
plug charger in
you will see distorted bootmenu
hope someone can fix the distortion
edit: you can uninstall using the app with no side effects

This thread has several versions of the app attached as apk's. Maybe this will help someone.

rozzco said:
This thread has several versions of the app attached as apk's. Maybe this will help someone.
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same link i posted m8

stevendeb25 said:
same link i posted m8
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DOH!
10char

what am finding is whatever rom.zip i make, no matter what files i use, i always get stuck on the M sign
maybe coz i not connecting with the 2nd init i dunno, at least if this app worked proper for atrix then i can set 2ndinit in the bootmenu and hopefully rom will boot

if you dont install CWM and only this, when power off phone, plug charger in, you get a nice battery icon with percentage for abit, when disappears just press volume button to see the battery and percentage again

stevendeb25 said:
if you dont install CWM and only this, when power off phone, plug charger in, you get a nice battery icon with percentage for abit, when disappears just press volume button to see the battery and percentage again
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You know that this battery icon is from the stock rom, right?

tsouza said:
You know that this battery icon is from the stock rom, right?
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ohhh lol never seen it before hahaha

For me it doesnt show if i dont put in charge mode, so that is new in my atrix, it recharging the same way my dext do
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will my green lwd be turned on forever now?
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edit: my phone doesnt boot, thanks for telling us that this could happen dude!

guidoido004 said:
will my green lwd be turned on forever now?
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edit: my phone doesnt boot, thanks for telling us that this could happen dude!
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If you didn't know it may brick your phone, you probably had no business trying it in the first place. Btw, OP really doesn't help us get any closer to bringing over ROMs. This is a defy app and hasn't been reworked for the Atrix yet. It is probably something edgan needs to incorporate, but I would stay away from this.
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guidoido004 said:
edit: my phone doesnt boot, thanks for telling us that this could happen dude!
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This is the "development" forum. This is not stable code. Try re-flashing an SBF file.

when you say you tested it, you say waht MAY happen also, i reflashed the sbf service file, but man, you dont really know how to post stuff, you always says it can be harmfull, if you dont, that means it works a 100%, but thats ok, nothing i dont fixed with 20 minutes
ps:by the way it may not work on retail(and maybe on all) brazillian system
it enters in the second init, but system do not allow to boot the official because of it, to get this being used we need to have a custom ROM able to boot using it
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henrys01 do you already saw one single forum "stable rom"? ROMs, recoveries and all that kind of thing are always in development, even stable!
stevendeb25 sorry for that, rage attack =( it dont worked, i already explained why
LordOfTheSnatch i came for this since the first ROM to motorola dext, if i did that, i know the harms, but yeah, lets stay out of this while doesnt have one made or ported for atrix
dont get me wrong, but im pissed now, one of the things is because it doesnt worked, sorry for anything

guidoido004 said:
when you say you tested it, you say waht MAY happen also, i reflashed the sbf service file, but man, you dont really know how to post stuff, you always says it can be harmfull, if you dont, that means it works a 100%, but thats ok, nothing i dont fixed with 20 minutes
ps:by the way it may not work on retail(and maybe on all) brazillian system
it enters in the second init, but system do not allow to boot the official because of it, to get this being used we need to have a custom ROM able to boot using it
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YOU should know that ANY time you put a non stock file on your device you have a chance of breaking/bricking it!
The disclaimers are for stupid people who think that .................... oh, wait..........err...............sorry!!!

CaelanT when i used to do that kind of thing in the dext, that never happened, motorola is really f.....g us up in this phone...=(

guidoido004 said:
when you say you tested it, you say waht MAY happen also, i reflashed the sbf service file, but man, you dont really know how to post stuff, you always says it can be harmfull, if you dont, that means it works a 100%, but thats ok, nothing i dont fixed with 20 minutes
ps:by the way it may not work on retail(and maybe on all) brazillian system
it enters in the second init, but system do not allow to boot the official because of it, to get this being used we need to have a custom ROM able to boot using it
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henrys01 do you already saw one single forum "stable rom"? ROMs, recoveries and all that kind of thing are always in development, even stable!
stevendeb25 sorry for that, rage attack =( it dont worked, i already explained why
LordOfTheSnatch i came for this since the first ROM to motorola dext, if i did that, i know the harms, but yeah, lets stay out of this while doesnt have one made or ported for atrix
dont get me wrong, but im pissed now, one of the things is because it doesnt worked, sorry for anything
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I think you should blame yourself, you should know better. He said it works with bugs. I would think next time before you act.

Sorry guys. I did test. I did explain what bugs.
I installed. Uninstalled
I thought everyone knew that stuff in development area could *brick* phone
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stevendeb25 said:
Sorry guys. I did test. I did explain what bugs.
I installed. Uninstalled
I thought everyone knew that stuff in development area could *brick* phone
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Everyone who knows what they are doing knows it can brick your phone, especially when it isn't made for your phone. The other people just get what's coming to them for doing stuff they don't understand without researching first.
First rule of flashing.... IT MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. Even if it is stable.

guidoido004 said:
you always says it can be harmfull, if you dont, that means it works a 100%
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The OP linked to a thread for a completely different phone. Did you honestly think it was going to work 100% on every atrix device? Use your head!
*Disclaimer, doesn't work on brazil phones courtesy of guidoido004

WTF???
Can you please explain what is the point of this thread?.
You just linked to a topic with an app for another phone that doesn't do anything usefull.
What's the point?. Does this contribute anything?.

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So rooted froyo has ota update?

so I've been playing around with my aria for a couple of weeks and turned my nexus back on thats rooted and sure enough I have an ota update available for android 2.2, which I already have on the phone.. possibly stupid question, if I update will I lose my root even though I did it bootloader method?
and I thought custom roms even if its stock didn't get ota's
jesus christ search
GldRush98 said:
jesus christ search
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ya go screw yourself okay, no need to get nasty
and I would search except that stuff is diasabled on my work computer.
dahui9 said:
ya go screw yourself okay, no need to get nasty
and I would search except that stuff is diasabled on my work computer.
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lol
and im also wonderin the same thing. the update pop up window is getting quiet annoying
dudes, don't panic.
download the ota or the file to flash along with the fr91root.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3033
and yall need to use search like my man gldrush said
sprinkles said:
dudes, don't panic.
download the ota or the file to flash along with the fr91root.
and yall need to use search like my man gldrush said
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Thanks for the link, it helped me, too.
You guys preaching to search (which I'm not against), I just wanted to point out that you linked to an entirely different site. Thus, had the OP searched *this* site, by your own admission, he/she might not have found what he/she was looking for. Interesting...
My 2 cents here...I had a rooted nexus one froyo 83b WITH a custom recovery.. which supposes to block the frf91 update..n guess what it didn't..my nexus rebooted..it didn't even reboot to recovery it just did a soft reset n when I it back on it had frf91 with no root access..so I'm like wtf?? So I tried to reboot to the custom recovery and yes..you guys guessed with...it went back to the original recovery...
;(
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GldRush98 said:
jesus christ search
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+1
Gotta agree, dont be lazy. Use the search like you should.
I just got an update notification also, and I'm rooted. I let it reboot/install but it showed an error. It was probably frf91.
ladies, congratulations on the update and re-rooting. i'm glad to hear that it worked out for yall.

SBF on hand

b16a2smith I have an sbf, who wants to test it?
b16a2smith Please RT. SBF on hand for #DroidX Bootloader 26.01 need testers.
dont know if its for real or not tho just wanted to share , maybe there is hope
found it here http://mobile.twitter.com/b16a2smith
This sbf will it downgrade the boot loader or is it a recovery
B-dub25 said:
This sbf will it downgrade the boot loader or is it a recovery
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i dunno , i just happen to stumble opon this
so did any try it does it work?
moosc said:
so did any try it does it work?
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he is askin ,, as far as i know ,, no cone has offered to try , thats y i posted the site so everyone can follow along
What rds do I have to have and will this brick it I will try but if it needs a updated RDS i need the link and the link for the driver for the DX i run linux but i also.have windows xp 32 bit
There was somebody in another thread that said they would try anything that was released to get the phone rooted so look in a couple other threads and contact him.
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I'm one of them.
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I tried it, and it will not flash through rsd lite 4.6. You need a newer version. For me, running 5.2, it would load up, read phone, try to load sbf and then it would lock the phone. No charging, no power button, nothing. I had to pull the batt for about a min to get it to work.
And the file is based off of the bootloader from the pre-release sbf which is why it's an older version. I will update as we try new things. I have couple X's at my disposal to wreck.
evulhotdog said:
There was somebody in another thread that said they would try anything that was released to get the phone rooted so look in a couple other threads and contact him.
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That was me...tell me what to do.
Breakthecycle2 said:
That was me...tell me what to do.
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id say contact the person who tweeted that , i posted the link but dont know how to contact him, i dont use twitter

Bootloader from dev atrix

Who have the UNLOCKED bootloader bin file from the Dev ATRIX ? I have 2 atrix and i'll try to flash it on my 2nd device for testing.
If you have all required files, mirror it please and post the links
UPDATE APRIL 18TH:
I need a software for open the bin files for comparison purposes ( HEX EDITOR DONT WORK )
I may be wrong, but what I have been told is that while the bootloader can be flashed, since it is not signed the phone will brick.
bearsfan172 said:
I may be wrong, but what I have been told is that while the bootloader can be flashed, since it is not signed the phone will brick.
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I have 2 devices, 2nd for testing purposes so i dont care if i brick it
if it fail, the device will not power on, if it work, i could post a tutorial
Im serious...... WHO HAVE THE REQUIRED FILES ??????
http://gititbit.ch/aEd2 - pulled from a dev atrix.
http://gitbrew.org/atrix/
You won't be able to do much with these files.
dont waste it... ill buy it off of you dude.
It would be nice if someone who knew for sure would post if this is even possible before this guy ruins his phone! Though it is cool of him for trying since it could help everyone if it works out ok!
It is definitely not going to work. You really believe developers would not hadn't done this if it was the least bit promising?
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It will fail I believe because it will not be able to pass the checks for the sigs = brick. Unless of course you have a secret technique you wanna try that's not just a simple flash
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maybe he will try and goldcard it...somehow
Well if he does get it the bounty is so large he can buy a couple of xooms and nexus s.
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
maybe he will try and goldcard it...somehow
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Its been many hours since he posted I'm betting he bricked!
Gutterball said:
Its been many hours since he posted I'm betting he bricked!
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Nah, the guys succeeded where everyone else failed and he's not posting because he's just too busy compiling CM7 RC1 & MIUI RC1 for the Atrix 4G
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Nah, the guys succeeded where everyone else failed and he's not posting because he's just too busy compiling CM7 RC1 & MIUI RC1 for the Atrix 4G
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Yeah and checking his paypal for the 2700 bucks too right?
Gutterball said:
Yeah and checking his paypal for the 2700 bucks too right?
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frantically refreshing his paypal app on his unlocked, CM7'd Atrix. xD
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frantically refreshing his paypal app on his unlocked, CM7'd Atrix. xD
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He may want to tell us if he succeeded first, so, you know, the funds start transferring.
Are we sure this will even brick the phone? Without being signed wouldn't it just fail to start the process? What we need is a way to push the bootloader to the phone that does not require it being signed.
There is some information about the bootloader in
http://dev.gitbrew.org/~dasmoover/debdroid/doc/tegra/tegra_250_froyo_20110207.pdf
Not sure if it will help you out any...I have not gotten into Atrix development as much as I should.
If i replace the oem bootloader file by the dev atrix bin file, everything should works. Ill compare the 2 files tonight
I'm pretty sure someone has tried this..
visit #moto-atrix or #xda-atrix for more advice before doing anything..
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Im serious...... WHO HAVE THE REQUIRED FILES ??????
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Wow you just can't wait to brick your phone can you. Even after people told you what's gonna happen you still want to go through with it.
If anybody has what this guy is looking for please give it to him so we can luagh at him when he wants help unbricking his phone.

can i dual boot?

can i dual boot 2 roms?
Yes and no. The closest thing to it is through an app called bootmanager that installs roms on your SD card which doesn't take long to switch between roms. But you can't truly dual boot off the phones internal storage.
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can you tell the procedure? steps........ whats the sdcardblock? what is system size?data size?cache size? can anyone answer these question the could help the developer in ics roms...
Is your google premium account expired and you no longer can use its search feature?
dflt said:
Is your google premium account expired and you no longer can use its search feature?
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Not everything is on google you know
Delivered via my phone's internet connection.
dflt said:
Is your google premium account expired and you no longer can use its search feature?
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have you ever used dual boot? mostly NOT!!! so plzz go to hell and stay out of xda !!!!
REAPER1992 said:
can you tell the procedure? steps........ whats the sdcardblock? what is system size?data size?cache size? can anyone answer these question the could help the developer in ics roms...
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Can you please tell me, how this could help ICS development? And what do you need all those sizes for? They arent always the same... Depend on the size of the ROM, AFAIK...
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Can you please tell me, how this could help ICS development? And what do you need all those sizes for? They arent always the same... Depend on the size of the ROM, AFAIK...
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thanks for your quick reply there is an app in the android market which can be used for dual boot purposes for example you can work on your ics rom and keep zues rom well in other words you dont need to keep nandroid backup which is time consuming..... the name of the app is boot manager plz check it out.....
REAPER1992 said:
thanks for your quick reply there is an app in the android market which can be used for dual boot purposes for example you can work on your ics rom and keep zues rom well in other words you dont need to keep nandroid backup which is time consuming..... the name of the app is boot manager plz check it out.....
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Our device is not supported.
It won't help with trying to get the KU900 V30 to work on our P970 as it doesn't boot. I am not sure how they do this from what I can tell they boot much later by mounting their file image then booting from that. The problem we are facing happens before that, but it does look interesting.
EDIT: Those sizes you are looking for can very easily be found using any terminal emulator or adb shell.
xonar_ said:
Our device is not supported.
It won't help with trying to get the KU900 V30 to work on our P970 as it doesn't boot. I am not sure how they do this from what I can tell they boot much later by mounting their file image then booting from that. The problem we are facing happens before that, but it does look interesting.
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we can set the variables manually bro.......
there are five questions and i found(seeing the video) the first one leaving 4 more....
REAPER1992 said:
we can set the variables manually bro.......
there are five questions and i found(seeing the video) the first one leaving 4 more....
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To what extent does can it "emulate" the alternate ROM booting. Can we alter bootargs that are passed to kernel by u-boot. Their website actually tells me very little about how it is actually done.
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xonar_ said:
To what extent does can it "emulate" the alternate ROM booting. Can we alter bootargs that are passed to kernel by u-boot. Their website actually tells me very little about how it is actually done.
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well i think we can alter the kernel thats why i was saying that this could help in the development of ics...........
if this works out this could be our greatest break through :victory:
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well i think we can alter the kernel thats why i was saying that this could help in the development of ics...........
if this works out this could be our greatest break through :victory:
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Just the kernel won't help. We need to alter stuff before the kernel gets initialized and if we make a mistake then we might lose the ability to go into SW Update mode and we can't risk that.
We can easily re-flash kernels as is so that's not the problem.
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xonar_ said:
Just the kernel won't help. We need to alter stuff before the kernel gets initialized and if we make a mistake then we might lose the ability to go into SW Update mode and we can't risk that.
We can easily re-flash kernels as is so that's not the problem.
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i am not really sure............
REAPER1992 said:
i am not really sure............
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it won't help if it still relies on our u-boot.
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xonar_ said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but it won't help if it still relies on our u-boot.
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but we are not sure this could also help if not this could help in cm9

[Q] How long wait for root ?

I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
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I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
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Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
CollinsJ said:
Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
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Thanks, I should have searched first.
I guess we'll just have to hope, pray and wait.
Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
spida_singh said:
Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
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Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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wooki said:
Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
someone755 said:
If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
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They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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pricey2009 said:
They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
someone755 said:
Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
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In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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pricey2009 said:
In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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Patience is a virtue. But having the reason I bought the device go away if I unlock the bootloader is just unfair, imo.
I can't choose between a good camera and making my own kernels ;-;
I'm sure it won't be too long buddy
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Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
someone755 said:
Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
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you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
hegie123 said:
you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
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Well considering most people don't want to unlock their bootloaders and miss out on the amazing camera, we can only flash FTFs (Sony-signed software).
(No system/boot write access, so finding an exploit is crucial.)
Looks like my Nokia 6210 will have to keep doing its job for a while

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