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Okay. I make regular Nandroid backups. I also brick my phone a lot since I like to play. I don't mind since I simple wipe and reload. However, last night I decided that I was going to try and put my many Nandroid backups to good use. The reason I haven't done so until now was that the process seemed too cumbersome and detailed. I always found it more straightforward, albeit more time consuming, to just reinstall my apps and change all my settings manually. It actually is surprisingly quick when you get used to it. Anyway, after quite some time, I finally managed to successfully configure and flash one of my Nandroid backups using the NNADROID Recovery GUI tool from this forum. To my surprise, it didn't seem to do much. I am not sure what was supposed to happen. I always assumed that all my settings and customizations would be there. While I didn't think my apps would (the Nandroid backup was too small to hold my files) I thought my app settings would and when I reinstalled an app it would contain all my settings. Nothing.
So my big question, after that lengthy background, is what exactly gets restored when you flash a Nandroid backup to your phone? Perhaps I am missing something. After an exhaustive search through these forums, all I've come up with was that Nandroid does a "complete restore" of your phone but no explanation of what that means. Perhaps I missed the post (for all you expert posters, I really look before I ask a question as this is my first ever question on a forum) that explains it. Perhaps one has never been written. Either way, can someone either point me in the right direction or explain what it is I am missing? I think it would benefit people who are new to the process. Personally, I am okay with my "system" however poor it may be. It works. But if there is an easier, more efficient method, I'm all ears.
Thanks.
Everything in the /system and /data I believe. YOu get back all contacts, SMS, app data..etc. IT DOES NOT backup your apps! or anything on your ext partition
I have /data/app, /data/data, /data/dalvik-cache moved to my SD card on an ext2 partition. From what you suggested, that will not be backed up. Is that correct?
I don't need apps restored. I also don't see the value in backing up contacts since this is done via sync anyway. I also use Backup for Root Users (BRU) which does a backup of my settings as well as SMS messages (I have about half a dozen apps to back up SMS messages and I don't really care that much about them). BRU backs up Alarms, Settings, Bookmarks, Shortcuts, Playlists, Data, SMS, Dictionary, Market DB, APN, Contacts/Calls and APKs. Not sure what else I need.
Also, the app data that was restored via Nandroid didn't seem to help me as the settings were not there when I reinstalled apps. It appears that Nandroid is less useful than it appears to be. With my "manual" method, I can essentially restore just about everything inside of 30 minutes, including apps (I use ADB to bulk install). So I am not exactly sure how I would benefit from Nandroid. There has to be something more that I am missing since the forum speaks of Nandroid like the Holy Grail.
It's just way more efficient. A click of two buttons and you have a stable ready to go backup of your entire phone minus anything on your ext partition. So you can easily switch between lets say..cyanogen and thedude's builds without having to wipe and flash or just plain flash.
While that sounds amazing, I am not sure what use it is without my ext partition. All my apps are on the partition and the Nandroid restore doesn't read them. I am assuming without the apps on SD it would be a very good thing. But it seems kind of useless otherwise. I don't want to drive everyone crazy especially since I am find with how I restore. I am just very interested in fully understanding the reasoning which doesn't seem to be coming through in your explanation. My Nandroid restore, which went smoothly, was completely useless to me.
Most people love the idea of an instant restore without hassle. It's useful you'll realize that sooner or later.
(Off topic: Fellow Brooklyner, *high five*) lol
Go Brooklyn. Damn straight.
I would LOVE to realize its usefulness. It takes two second to do a backup and about a minute to restore it. PLEASE explain what makes it so good. Someone needs to write up a detailed explanation of what it does and what gets restored. After my restore I basically has to redo all my settings anyway since the apps are on the SD. Not seeing it. I guess I'll just have to play some more to figure it out. I will have to wait until I brick my phone again (which should happen soon enough, LOL) to find out.
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Go Brooklyn. Damn straight.
I would LOVE to realize its usefulness. It takes two second to do a backup and about a minute to restore it. PLEASE explain what makes it so good. Someone needs to write up a detailed explanation of what it does and what gets restored. After my restore I basically has to redo all my settings anyway since the apps are on the SD. Not seeing it. I guess I'll just have to play some more to figure it out. I will have to wait until I brick my phone again (which should happen soon enough, LOL) to find out.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830&highlight=infernix You can look at that. Entire thread on nandroid. Honestly whether you think its useful or not is based on personal preference. It's possible to backup the ext partition by just doing a simple "adb pull /system/sd" and a simple "adb pull /data/data" will backup all your app data but nandroid is just more efficient. Read through the first couple of pages and last couple of pages in that thread and you'll have a better understanding of why we consider it our holy grail. Cheers
Since you say Nandroid doesn't back-up apps. but Back-up for Root users does then would the apps. that I back-up using BRU show as installed in Market/My downloads if I wipe?, or would I have to redownload them from Market...the reason why I ask this is because I paid for two apps. on my old Gmail account and was able to switch them to my new one but I'll lose them or basically have to buy them again if I wipe.
I use ASTRO to back up my apps. I don't think it shows up in the Market unless you backup Market data. I use aTrackDog to track updates to my files. When I reinstall apps, I do it via ADB or a file manager like ASTRO or Linda. I have the APKs backed up (even the paid ones, go ROOT!). The Market seems very forgetful when you wipe. I have to do another build anyway since my phone just crashed. Which brings me to an off topic question regarding apps to SD for which I will open a new thread. My phone keeps crashing and I think it's my apps to SD method.
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Since you say Nandroid doesn't back-up apps. but Back-up for Root users does then would the apps. that I back-up using BRU show as installed in Market/My downloads if I wipe?, or would I have to redownload them from Market...the reason why I ask this is because I paid for two apps. on my old Gmail account and was able to switch them to my new one but I'll lose them or basically have to buy them again if I wipe.
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The purchased apps will stay but any free apps will not, unless you backup and push your market.db back
You can backup your market.db. Backup for Root Users lets you do this
alritewhadeva said:
The purchased apps will stay but any free apps will not, unless you backup and push your market.db back
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I know the purchased apps will stay but the problem is I didn't purchase them from the Gmail account that I'm on now I purchased them from my original Gmail account so if I wipe they might still show up in Market/My downloads but I'll have to purchase them again so that's why I asked if you use BRU will they reinstalled them and show in Market/My download as installed or will I have to reinstall them myself from Market/My download if they show up?
If you install them using BRU they won't show on market under my downloads
I saw this and looked because I've wondered myself. I recently managed my first backup restoration and it took a few tries. To combat the losing apps on your ext partition I found (yes, through hours of research ... honest) the easiest solution is to use one card for one firmware and switch cards if I want to flash or use another. That way I have all the apps for that particular firmware. It isn't the ideal solution but cards are cheap enough to do it.
Like the solution, sort of
Dyonas, I like your solution. By keeping two SD cards it solves a lot of issues. However, so far I have not been given a detailed response of what exactly happens with a Nandroid backup. Let's assume that I have two identical SD cards with identical partitions and something goes wrong when I do something with the phone. If I do a Nadroid restore and put in the "stable" SD card (remember, for arguments sake, they are identical in every which way minus the last minute corruption), would that essentially restore it to like new? If I didn't have identical SD cards, what exactly would be restored (I understand apps do not get restored)?
Again, I am fine with my method of restoring but I think this would be a tremendous help for the community as a whole if someone could actually say what it is that happens with the restore. I will continue with my nightly Nandroid backups just in case I need them (which has happened once). But simply saying Nandroid is "amazing" or a "must" doesn't explain anything.
Thanks all.
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Dyonas, I like your solution. By keeping two SD cards it solves a lot of issues. However, so far I have not been given a detailed response of what exactly happens with a Nandroid backup. Let's assume that I have two identical SD cards with identical partitions and something goes wrong when I do something with the phone. If I do a Nadroid restore and put in the "stable" SD card (remember, for arguments sake, they are identical in every which way minus the last minute corruption), would that essentially restore it to like new? If I didn't have identical SD cards, what exactly would be restored (I understand apps do not get restored)?
Again, I am fine with my method of restoring but I think this would be a tremendous help for the community as a whole if someone could actually say what it is that happens with the restore. I will continue with my nightly Nandroid backups just in case I need them (which has happened once). But simply saying Nandroid is "amazing" or a "must" doesn't explain anything.
Thanks all.
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Nandroid backups are stored onto your sdcard. They don't change anything on your phone. The backup stays there until you want to use it. When you do use it to restore it restores you're phone to the exact way it was when you did the backup. It doesn't matter where the nandroid backup is unless you are using cyanogen's 1.4 image and are recovering from the recovery menu. In that case you would have to move the nandroid folder to your other sdcard. Hope I answered your question Look in dream android development for the switchrom.sh script. Backups everything included ext partition and you can easily restore it from recovery console.
Tells the how, but not the what [SOLVED]
I fully understand how to backup and restore. But you said what everybody else use saying that it restores your phone to the way it was when you backed up the phone. But what exactly is restored is the question. Data? Cache? Apps? Settings? Etc. I know apps seen't but is the app data. The one nandroid restore that I performed did not seem to help me much in terms of my settings and app data. However, I have my methods using several programs and will continue my nightly nandroid backups until I figure it all out. Thanks. I will mark this as solved. If someone cares to write a detailed post on this they can just start a new thread.
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I fully understand how to backup and restore. But you said what everybody else use saying that it restores your phone to the way it was when you backed up the phone. But what exactly is restored is the question. Data? Cache? Apps? Settings? Etc. I know apps seen't but is the app data. The one nandroid restore that I performed did not seem to help me much in terms of my settings and app data. However, I have my methods using several programs and will continue my nightly nandroid backups until I figure it all out. Thanks. I will mark this as solved. If someone cares to write a detailed post on this they can just start a new thread.
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EVERYTHING except apps. App data, everything on your /system. Everything except apps. Your app data won't restore unless the apps are already installed. It's that simple. Don't know why its so hard to understand.
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Okay. That makes sense. I was wondering why my app data wasn't restored after a restore. But according to what you said the app needs to be installed first (which doesn't make too much sense). All I know is that I did a nandroid restore and it did not restore some of my settings which were definitely in the backup. It's no big deal. I will run a few restores to test for myself. I just didn't like the answer that every kept giving which was "everything" which explains nothing. But i am pretty sure I understand it now and one or two restores should give me a complete picture.
It seems the firmware after the models xjm1 and xjm2 are bricking phones on reverting back to US firmware. Thought it was my phone. So im getting rid of this thread.
previous post edited...sorry I read wrong......
Nope, just wanted to show off my homescreen in case anyone was wondering compatibility issues with applications that everyone is familiar with. Those were just some of the main applications I know a wide audience tend to use, so I picked them to display.
damn,.. you already answered to my stupid question.... sorry for wasting your time...anyways I've got few new questions!
After MIMO Ext 4 procedure is done...
1) What happens if you take out the external memory card after booting...
2) What happans if you lose the external memory card? Is the phone considered bricked then?
3) How do I reverse the MIMO Ext 4? (get rid of MIMO Ext4)
Anyways great info!!! I might actually try JM2 installation!!
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damn,.. you already answered to my stupid question.... sorry for wasting your time...anyways I've got few new questions!
After MIMO Ext 4 procedure is done...
1) What happens if you take out the external memory card after booting...
2) What happans if you lose the external memory card? Is the phone considered bricked then?
3) How do I reverse the MIMO Ext 4? (get rid of MIMO Ext4)
Anyways great info!!! I might actually try JM2 installation!!
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1. Since your application data is now stored and ran from the sd card, your applications will go wonky, and any applications you try to install or reopen that have been close will not open.
2. No, if you lost the sd card, you can simply format another one, or use ROM manager and the clockwork recovery to reinstall your stock rom.
3. Rom manager or reflash original firmware with ODIN. But I recommend using Clockwork recovery to reinstall a nandroid backup found in the development section here, or an update.zip. As these methods are less intrusive an will give you less problems.
yay!! now I know and I dont' have to shiver in fear bricking my phone trying MIMO Ext4 !!!!!!!!!
I appreciate your swift replies !! I'll probably try this when I get some free time !!
If I could track down a i897 phone file, I'd be all over this on my Captivate.
Croak said:
If I could track down a i897 phone file, I'd be all over this on my Captivate.
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Yeah, I had captivate in my possession yesterday, and this exact method did not work for it. Of course it might would if I could of found the exact firmware for the captivate split into the three odin files, rather than the all in one click exe. But i've returned it since then, so I won't be able to look into that anymore.
I used a program called Universal Extractor to bust open that one-click file, but all it could extract were the non-binary files inside, about 300kb of .xml, .txt and script files, in the META-INF and system directory.
I don't get it.... Why is this a goid thing to move all of your data to your sd... ?
Have you figured out why you don't have data service?
This is good write up. There are some captivate owners looking to do the same. But we don't have the firmware package u have on the vibrant. I am sure someone will come up with it. However, No DATA is a problem. I need data service. I tether alot. I pretty much depend on it.
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I don't get it.... Why is this a goid thing to move all of your data to your sd... ?
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Its for the lag fix, but doesn't have the space limitations that the nand partition does.
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tissimo said:
Its for the lag fix, but doesn't have the space limitations that the nand partition does.
Sent from my SGH-T959
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Really, an ext part on the sd card is faster than the internal memory? K.. I know alot of people have bad lagg, but I havnt seen it. Buy thanx fot lettin me know.
PJcastaldo said:
Really, an ext part on the sd card is faster than the internal memory? K.. I know alot of people have bad lagg, but I havnt seen it. Buy thanx fot lettin me know.
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Its due to the I/O of the internal memory. IIIRC the internal is limited to sequential read/writes, but I guess the external isn't (and neither is nand).
Thanks for this .
I was tinkering round this morning and looked into my devices storage and saw that 27gb of 32gb were being used.
Did some math on my own:
Apps: 2.82gb
Music: 3.23gb
Photos: 1.12gb
Other: 19.85gb:
-Nandroids: 9gb
-Titanium Back up 1gb
2 roms: 1.5gb
Somewhere in the "Other" category something is eating up 9gb of space. I used my file explorer and couldn't pin anything that big down. I am going to offload my nandroids but I shouldn't have to.
Anyone else run into this or know what this 9gb "other" hog could be
Is there an app or system setting I am missing to ID this?
Sprint HTC One
Running: D3rpONE
Found My Screenie...
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Found My Screenie...
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Your 'other' is really suspicious. Mine is ~7GB. I'd do a factory reset, easiest way IMO.
If you're flashing roms or doing backups with any other apps (CWM or something). I'm guessing they would go there. Check your download folder as well if you do a lot of downloading.
You may also try installing airdroid and using the desktop filemanager to whittle down your list as well.
Download Disk Usage. It shows you visually whats taking up space. It's amazing.
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
tdubbs27 said:
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
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I'm definitely going to check on this
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Also check if you are using Google play music and have a lot of playlists pinned. I believe that and movies actually show there in other.
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I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...
tdubbs27 said:
I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
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Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
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-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
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Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
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Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
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Your exactly correct on the last point. I am going to keep listening and looking. I think/hope/pray the update the internationals got can be applied some way in the future and may help out a bit. Just going to have to utilize some cloud storage a little better.
it's not totally/technically broke and I am not going to do more harm.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions
I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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I use disk useage but it doesn't even show my max storage space as 32gb. It shows 26gb. See Screenshot: So I have 6gb that aren't even registering as available storage. I was trying to clean out some old app storage but the space they use is so small. Would they be worth it? I think the fact I am missing 6 gb is more troubling.
I could be wrong, but doesn't the phone only have 27GB of formatted space?
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any device with internal memory will lose some. this is the exact reason i havent gotten one yet bc im praying that sprint will get the 64gb version. i will say that if they are going to advertise a device at xyz gb then they should build in the extra needed for system so we actually get what we pay for. cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
guess ill be holding on to my evo lte for another yr or so.
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cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
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Is OTG standard in Android? Does the One need to be rooted?
Hello All,
I unfortunately made a giant mistake and overlooked backing up my gallery when doing the factory reset. Anyways, have tried some random "android recovery" software on google and haven't really availed anything.
Next plan was hoping to make a complete "image" backup of my internal memory (no external memory installed/backup to), and than try and run testdisk or recova or something like that on it. Just unsure of how to do this.. anyone have an idea?
Last resort is to take it to one of those phone repair places.. sigh.
Thanks!
PS: I've stopped using the phone to prevent overwriting of the old data.
coolest35 said:
Hello All,
I unfortunately made a giant mistake and overlooked backing up my gallery when doing the factory reset. Anyways, have tried some random "android recovery" software on google and haven't really availed anything.
Next plan was hoping to make a complete "image" backup of my internal memory (no external memory installed/backup to), and than try and run testdisk or recova or something like that on it. Just unsure of how to do this.. anyone have an idea?
Last resort is to take it to one of those phone repair places.. sigh.
Thanks!
PS: I've stopped using the phone to prevent overwriting of the old data.
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Root it and use disk digger app. Does alright. Doesnt recover at full resolution but does recover lost pics. Smart move also. As any usagage can overwrite data slots marked for deletion.
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Root it and use disk digger app. Does alright. Doesnt recover at full resolution but does recover lost pics. Smart move also. As any usagage can overwrite data slots marked for deletion.
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Gave it a go.. didn't really yield anything for me. Comes up with random app png's.. guess its all gone. :crying:
coolest35 said:
Gave it a go.. didn't really yield anything for me. Comes up with random app png's.. guess its all gone. :crying:
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I have used it several times but never after a restore from brick.
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I have used it several times but never after a restore from brick.
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Yes.
I've researched a bit, i'm trying to figure out how I can extract the "/data" from the phone, and than use an actual PC based recovery software.. any ideas on how I can accomplish this?
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD. She has some photos that she is desperate to try to recover (including the last photos of her mother before she passed away). I'm fairly technically savvy, but I haven't messed under the hood of Android before. From what I've read, the only way to try to recover deleted files in this scenario is to be able to run a utility like DiskDigger as root (and I'm aware that there is only a small chance that the photos can be recovered).
So I think I need to root the phone and I don't plan to leave it rooted, just need to root it long enough to run the recovery utility and then put it back.
I see there is the SamFAIL method to root but... do I understand correctly that it will only work on Android 7? (her phone is on Oreo firmware version N950USQS5CRID)
So I read that if you are on Oreo and want to use SamFAIL, you could downgrade to Nougat first and then follow the SamFAIL process. But I have had zero success with getting a downgrade to work. Is this a possible path or does the firmware loaded on this phone completely prevent any process to get to root?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
No root for Snapdragon Oreo and you can't downgrade. And do check this Q&A section, threads like this already exist.
Once you upgrade to any firmware version that has a higher bootloader version, you can never go back to anything with a lower bootloader, even if it is the same (nougatt,, oreo) so,, any oreo firmware will always have higher bootloader versions than a nougatt one, besides,, once you root, samsung pay and secure folder will be gone forever,, there is no way to get them back, no workaround, no trick,, nothing will do
Try running Data Recovery software on it. If she has written over the sectors, which contain the photo's data then you won't be able to recover it.
iceepyon said:
Try running Data Recovery software on it. If she has written over the sectors, which contain the photo's data then you won't be able to recover it.
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Would that be possible even without root? I thought root would be required for recovery to work.
rjdmail said:
Would that be possible even without root? I thought root would be required for recovery to work.
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You don't need root access. If you connect the device to a computer and run the recovery software via that. You should be able to recover all the deleted data from your device that way. Using a data recovery app on your device requires root access.
iceepyon said:
You don't need root access. If you connect the device to a computer and run the recovery software via that. You should be able to recover all the deleted data from your device that way. Using a data recovery app on your device requires root access.
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There are a lot of scammy looking software out there when I search for this. Is there a recommended program for Windows that works for this type of recovery?
rjdmail said:
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD.
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Its not possible to recover photos from android internal storage by using any kind of methods. There are various reasons for this.
The internal storage is encrypted and no third party software knows about the process. Even TWRP cant mount the storage with encryption.
The MTP protocol prohibits windows recovery tools to access the internal storage directly.
By now, the physical area might have been overwritten and data would have been lost already.
Sorry, but still, i suggest you to go to files, turn on show hidden files, navigate to dcim/.thumbnail. there might be some photos available either in internal or sdcard.
Good luck.
rjdmail said:
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD. She has some photos that she is desperate to try to recover (including the last photos of her mother before she passed away). I'm fairly technically savvy, but I haven't messed under the hood of Android before. From what I've read, the only way to try to recover deleted files in this scenario is to be able to run a utility like DiskDigger as root (and I'm aware that there is only a small chance that the photos can be recovered).
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Firstly, rooting the device you will need to format the internal storage, anyway, to get rid of the encryption, so doing that your wife will lose everything on her device, anyway. This includes apps, music, videos, and anything else she might have on it. It's like doing a factory reset. So that wouldn't have helped your cause.
Second, apps like DiskDigger doesn't actually recover anything, either. I tried it before when I lost some photos. All it does is scour your device for thumbnails of images. Some apps save low resolution thumbnails, some save slightly higher resolution, but even if it finds thumbnails of the images you want to recover, it'll never be the same quality as the original ones. This is from my own experience of using this app and one or two others like it.
Thirdly, flash memory works a little different to hard drives and Android also works different to Windows. When you delete something off flash memory, it doesn't necessarily just mark the file as deleted or keep remnants or something, like Windows does. You can test this yourself by copying something onto an SD card, then deleting it and sticking the SD card in a computer or laptop and running data recovery software on that. Chances are high it won't pick up the deleted content.
Sadly, like sandeepkumar0153 said, your best and likely only bet is to look in the thumbnails directory to see if there's thumbnails of the images, but be prepared that those images will be very low resolution. It might really be worth it.
My advice is to make peace with what happened and start getting into the habit up backing up important files like that. I've lost many, many photos and other stuff due to the same issues or situations where I couldn't boot the device and had to do factory resets. It's sad and painful, but it happens.