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The design of the Streak seems like it could fairly easily take a back with a solar charger built in. Has anyone seen something like that?
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I think you would have difficulty finding a solar panel small enough with enough power output to do any good, not to mention having to leave it out in the heat of the sun while it charged.
Good point.
Buts not about replacing the mains charger but adding a little charge while out and about. Prob get a few days extra with solar panel. Unless you forget to take it out of your pocket
I think its a great idea. Maybe a battery with built in cover/solar panel
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does sounds like a good idea you can already get solar phone chargers but one attached to the phone would be great!!
you'd probably be better off looking for one of those solar power batteries that could charge an internal battery, then use it to charge the streak once the charge is up
Solar chargers work under indoor lighting also. My watch never dies on me and I'm indoors all the time. As long as you left the unit face down, it would trickle charge and maybe get enough extra time to never worry about dying out before you get home to your charger.
mid_life_crisis said:
Solar chargers work under indoor lighting also. My watch never dies on me and I'm indoors all the time. As long as you left the unit face down, it would trickle charge and maybe get enough extra time to never worry about dying out before you get home to your charger.
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Problem is the Streak needs an awful lot more power than a watch. I see this panel on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5V-150mA...895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aacb1b777 which they say is 5v 150ma and it's 110mm x 56mm. This is roughly the size of the battery cover on the Streak, but you would need 7 times as much current to successfully charge it.
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Problem is the Streak needs an awful lot more power than a watch. I see this panel on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5V-150mA...895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aacb1b777 which they say is 5v 150ma and it's 110mm x 56mm. This is roughly the size of the battery cover on the Streak, but you would need 7 times as much current to successfully charge it.
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What if you combined this with the battery idea? So it would charge a second smaller battery, and when your battery was running low you flipped a switch to charge the streak from that? It would start to get bulky but might work?
not a new idea or device... see:
http://www.powerbee.co.uk/Solar-Phone-Chargers/Powerpod-Solar-Phone-Charger/p-84-355/
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Solar-Charger-Built-Windshield/dp/B00449U3K0/ref=pd_cp_e_0
http://www.ecoexpress.com/page-1440-ECO SHOPS-1101.htm
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Portable-iPhone-Blackberry-Silver/dp/B00439G3WS/ref=pd_cp_e_2
etc...
I bought two extra charging cables. One for the car, one for work and the original stays at home by my computer. Charging problem solved with nothing to lug around. This thing is big enough without toting around accessories.
Troute said:
Problem is the Streak needs an awful lot more power than a watch. I see this panel on eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5V-150mA...895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aacb1b777 which they say is 5v 150ma and it's 110mm x 56mm. This is roughly the size of the battery cover on the Streak, but you would need 7 times as much current to successfully charge it.
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No you wouldn't, it would charge with only 150ma, it would just take about 10 hours for full charge, in reality, something like this would only slow battery drain on a "super"-phone like this.
That's my point - not to charge from dead, but to top up and maybe get an extra hour or more before searching for an outlet.
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Aren't there serious problems with trying to trickle charge Lithium ION cells? As in, it kills them pretty quickly?
Isn't that why loads of modern kit has normal and fast charge modes, depending on what the available amperage on the cable is, and why some things, e.g. iPad, cannot charge at all from some USB ports?
As far as I know the only thing you don't want to do to a lithium battery is let it discharge fully, that shortens the battery life considerably.
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As far as I know the only thing you don't want to do to a lithium battery is let it discharge fully, that shortens the battery life considerably.
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This didn't make sense to me, so I Googled. It is correct. I found this quote on a battery research site.
"Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The smaller the depth of discharge, the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid frequent full discharges and charge more often between uses. If full discharges cannot be avoided, try utilizing a larger battery. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery."
There was a chart that indicated that discharging only to 50% as opposed to until it dies can triple the battery life.
The moral is to have it on a charger whenever possible.
Well, according to http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
A continuous trickle charge would cause plating of metallic lithium, and this could compromise safety.
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It is referring to when they are fully charged, but you would definitely have to cope with that situation, since that's a recipe for exploding batteries, otherwise
mid_life_crisis said:
The moral is to have it on a charger whenever possible.
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After reading that article, this statement I made previously is clearly wrong.
What I gathered from the article is that for max lifespan of the battery, a couple of things should be done:
1) Do not completely discharge.
2) Turn the phone off while charging.
Of course with the Streak it would be impractical to do both of these, as it would mean turning your phone off for an hour or so in the middle of the day.
Oh yeah, and hope like hell that Dell did a good job designing the charger circuitry.
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The design of the Streak seems like it could fairly easily take a back with a solar charger built in. Has anyone seen something like that?
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_with_solar_and_turbine
Its still a great idea, free energy, even if its only 10mins
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A seperate solar charger might be useful but there's another potential problem with a built in one, that is having to leave the phone lying in the sun for long periods of time, never a good idea.
I am just wondering if any of you have used the Universal Phone Battery Charger such as this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW...y_Chargers&hash=item4cfa8ab2cd#ht_3307wt_1033
If so are they safe to use? have they been approved by the ITU.
Thanks.
I've been using a universal charger for about a month. Not that exact model. I wanted to buy it locally and radio shack was the only retailer I could find that sold one. I have no complaints other then my phone is out of commission when charging. Ive had no I'll effects so far. I'm sure its a placebo but my battery life seems a bit better. I usually would get the 99-90% without even touching my phone. I haven't really seen that with the universal.
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Any decent custom ROM will allow you to control charging voltage, so it really doesn't matter. I use any charger i can get my hands on most times, and my GS2 charges fine.
Just to let u know mate that 99-90% battery or maybe a bit less is a good thing that your phone is suppose to do because it's not good for your battery to be at full battery or low battery so the phone does it on purpose. I'm using a external charger and mine still does it. They say your suppose to try and keep your battery between 40 and 80% but won't hurt to fully charge it's as long as it not fully charged for to long and you don't want a low battery full to long but you still wanna let your phone fully die every so often and fully recharge as it reconditions battery ( this is what I've read) and if your going to store a device turned off for a long time u only want about 40-60% battery. Jus thought I'd say lol
As far I know they are not safe. These charger reduce the longevity of the battery.
You'd better use the original charger. The universal charger will short the battery life and have bad impact on your phone. Most important of all, they are not safety.
Jasmine1012 said:
You'd better use the original charger. The universal charger will short the battery life and have bad impact on your phone. Most important of all, they are not safety.
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Do you have evidence of this?
I use a universal charger on all my devices and never once had any battery issue with any of them.
i've used a battery charger on a old sony ericsson and it messed up its charge time, now it takes double to charge but it still holds....weird...
orangekid said:
Do you have evidence of this?
I use a universal charger on all my devices and never once had any battery issue with any of them.
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I just see some reports talking about we should not using the universal chargers. And also some people said Universal chargers are OK if you are using them on a temporary basis. But using for long term, they may cause more problems than the original one.
Hi Everybody,
I am having some problems with my new HTC Sensations XL Beats Audio mobile, i am unable to charge the battery 100%. It will get charged up to 89% after that it stops charging
Can any of you have any solution for this problem, if any it would help me a lot
thanks,
Sreenivas
sreenivas0106 said:
Hi Everybody,
I am having some problems with my new HTC Sensations XL Beats Audio mobile, i am unable to charge the battery 100%. It will get charged up to 89% after that it stops charging
Can any of you have any solution for this problem, if any it would help me a lot
thanks,
Sreenivas
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Do you use the original battery or an aftermarket one?
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Do you use the original battery or an aftermarket one?
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Hi, same happens to me, I have the original battery (with which I am able to charge to 100%) and another one (higher capacity 1900mAh) that only charges to 88%.
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Hi, same happens to me, I have the original battery (with which I am able to charge to 100%) and another one (higher capacity 1900mAh) that only charges to 88%.
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This is a known issue, and it is because of the battery driver from within the kernel, i tried to work on it but suspended my work for now.
Probably i will work on this on a later date.
then what's the solution for our problem,
i read somewhere that 1950mAh batteries are compatible for Sensation XL, does anybody tried already???
Sree
Lexmazter said:
This is a known issue, and it is because of the battery driver from within the kernel, i tried to work on it but suspended my work for now.
Probably i will work on this on a later date.
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@Lexmazter, i am using the original battery which HTC provided in the box.
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Do you use the original battery or an aftermarket one?
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sreenivas0106 said:
Hi Everybody,
I am having some problems with my new HTC Sensations XL Beats Audio mobile, i am unable to charge the battery 100%. It will get charged up to 89% after that it stops charging
Can any of you have any solution for this problem, if any it would help me a lot
thanks,
Sreenivas
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I have same problem. I had the original battery which was about 14 months old. Suddenly it started draining really fast, like 70% within
an hour or half. When it reached around 30% phone closed. When I turned it on, it said there was 4-6%.
Last week I purchased new Insmat 1700mAh battery and charget it phone turned off about 10 hours.
It only got to 84%. Now I´ve drained it and charged it couple of times and it reaches that 89% but no more than that.
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For all that wants a new battery for their phone :
If you buy another one you will have to check if the voltage on the new battery is the same as on the stock battery. For now until someone makes another kernel for bigger battery, if you buy another battery with more miliamps on you will not get it to charge over 89% because bigger battery is running 0.1 volts higher than stock. The phone runs just fine with it but it can't fully charge it unless another kernel is made for it or unless you use an external charger, with that I mean , pulling battery out and charge it with another charger. And insert it again while fully charged
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Thanks for that info anders3408! Battery still works great and lasts long.
External Charger, i don't understand what you're saying, can you say once again clearly, to get an external charger what i have to do?
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For all that wants a new battery for their phone :
If you buy another one you will have to check if the voltage on the new battery is the same as on the stock battery. For now until someone makes another kernel for bigger battery, if you buy another battery with more miliamps on you will not get it to charge over 89% because bigger battery is running 0.1 volts higher than stock. The phone runs just fine with it but it can't fully charge it unless another kernel is made for it or unless you use an external charger, with that I mean , pulling battery out and charge it with another charger. And insert it again while fully charged
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External Charger, i don't understand what you're saying, can you say once again clearly, to get an external charger what i have to do?
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I think he meant desktop/external charger. By using them, you can charge battery full. Not when its in the phone. Maybe its related to kernels, I dunno.
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how much battery is charged is controled by the kernel, so in theory , if someone editted kernel then we can charge battery to full.
If you will use a bigger battery you need to use external charger to charge it full, and yes by external charger i mean a charger you can put the battery in, so it is pulled out of the phone
anders3408 said:
how much battery is charged is controled by the kernel, so in theory , if someone editted kernel then we can charge battery to full.
If you will use a bigger battery you need to use external charger to charge it full, and yes by external charger i mean a charger you can put the battery in, so it is pulled out of the phone
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Im really bad with this sort of things cos i can only say what is working and what not. And maybe why...
But to you who know better. If its because of kernel, would it be hard thing to repair since there is custom kernels out there?
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AlluXX said:
Im really bad with this sort of things cos i can only say what is working and what not. And maybe why...
But to you who know better. If its because of kernel, would it be hard thing to repair since there is custom kernels out there?
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I have looked in kernel sources but I have problems with finding the correct regulator and driver for battery charger. And for now we are working hard on jelly bean so later i can take a look again.
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Can you suggest one good external charger device(india).
anders3408 said:
For all that wants a new battery for their phone :
If you buy another one you will have to check if the voltage on the new battery is the same as on the stock battery. For now until someone makes another kernel for bigger battery, if you buy another battery with more miliamps on you will not get it to charge over 89% because bigger battery is running 0.1 volts higher than stock. The phone runs just fine with it but it can't fully charge it unless another kernel is made for it or unless you use an external charger, with that I mean , pulling battery out and charge it with another charger. And insert it again while fully charged
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have never tried them , so no but a charger is a charger, not much diffrent in them
anders3408 said:
I have looked in kernel sources but I have problems with finding the correct regulator and driver for battery charger. And for now we are working hard on jelly bean so later i can take a look again.
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Well its not that big problem and JB is more important now but it would be still really cool if someone would/wanna fix it some day. :fingers-crossed:
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AlluXX said:
Well its not that big problem and JB is more important now but it would be still really cool if someone would/wanna fix it some day. :fingers-crossed:
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Hello everyone,
i have the same problem, my phone stops charging at 81 %.I relocked bootloader, i installed the stock ICS rom for europe from HTC Stock RUU files, and the phone doesn't charge to 100%.I want to mention that i have the original battery that came with the phone.Any ideas?
danielhtcxl said:
Hello everyone,
i have the same problem, my phone stops charging at 81 %.I relocked bootloader, i installed the stock ICS rom for europe from HTC Stock RUU files, and the phone doesn't charge to 100%.I want to mention that i have the original battery that came with the phone.Any ideas?
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How old is it? Mine was about 1year and 1-2months old when it stopped charging to full and phone turned off when battery was around 30%.
Hi has anyone had issues with their mophie juice pack? I bought a brand new one straight from mophie and when I put it on, my phone starts spazzing out. It takes screenshots randomly and the lights keep blinking on the bottom and it tries to restart itself. I thought the mophie was defective so they sent me another one and it still does the same thing! Anyone else had issues with this? My HTC is 100% stock.
Yeah they're **** and Mophie is aware of it. Mine would just not charge the phone lol. I had to put the case on the phone flip the switch to "On" plug the charger into the case then unlpug, then it would start charging lol. Idk they're weird.
have not had any issues with mine like that. I occasionally get a message about only using the supplied charger to charge your device.
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Yeah they're **** and Mophie is aware of it. Mine would just not charge the phone lol. I had to put the case on the phone flip the switch to "On" plug the charger into the case then unlpug, then it would start charging lol. Idk they're weird.
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So is it mophie's fault or htc's fault?
Also, is there anything wrong with using another micro-USB cable to charge the phone? Why does that message pop up about not using the stock charger? I didn't think that anything bad could happen to it.
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So is it mophie's fault or htc's fault?
Also, is there anything wrong with using another micro-USB cable to charge the phone? Why does that message pop up about not using the stock charger? I didn't think that anything bad could happen to it.
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I Would imangine that the fault falls under mophie's as they should've test it throughly.
Also its recommended that you use the charger it comes with because stock adapters/chargers provide the right amount of power to charge the phone. Sometimes A/C adapters (and USB cables) from other phones send out less or more juice then the phone needs. Less juice longer charge time, more juice fast charge times but ofcourse this coems with a risk because you can also damage your battery with lot more juice. For example its not recommended to use a Note 2/3 adapter with an Evo LTE cause it can possible short the battery. Me i only use the OEM charger HTC for HTC Phones Samsung for Samsung Phones Etc. unless im out and about then im using my external battery. Also from Personal Experiance with my Evo Lte it took longer to charger with the note 2 USB cable (Note 2 USB with HTC adapter) then it did with the HTC USB/adapter. I also have a wall outlet with one outlet and 2 USB ports also takes longer to charge having my HTC USB pluged in (i dunno why). so i charge using the HTC Charger (again unless im out and about then i use my external battery).
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I Actually remember reading a few years back the samsung USB's would charge samsung phones perectly fine but charged other with less power. dunno how true that was.
I'm getting 5 hrs sot with my nexus 6 almost every time I charge it, but the problem is that it takes almost 3hrs, the charging time was normal i.e. 1.25hrs when I bought the phone and it worked normally for almost 2 months but now for almost a month it's taking 3 hrs to charge, I use turbo charger and my data cable is the original one, if my battery is faulty how can I check it? I don't have any random reboots. My main question is how can I check if my battery is faulty, there's no bulging on the back side
Kennel issue? If you have USB fast charge on try to disable it and see if that works.
I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
Yasharkhan said:
I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
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Sounds more like a faulty turbo charger to me than a device fault. Based on your SOT and physical normalities, I'm definitely leaning towards the charger. Either contact the original place of purchase, or Motorola support and see if you can get a replacement. That way, you'll know for sure.
Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
Yasharkhan said:
Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
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If your battery was faulty, you'd most likely see rapid drain or early shutdowns. I still think your charger is at fault. Considering it's far cheaper to replace a charger, I'd start there first.
It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
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It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
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Thanks alot for explaining it like that, if you don't mind can you inbox me your number, I'd like to Whatsapp you to get more knowledge about this, should I get my turbo charger repaired or what?
I don't give out personal information on XDA for my own safety. However, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help.
Curious in any case wouldn't a Samsung 2amp charger be considered as fast as the rapid charger that comes with nexus? After all in all newer high-end charging docks isn't it the amp output that makes it charge faster?
I use my Samsung white 2 amp on all my phones what make a the nexus piece better? ?
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