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Is tegra 2 a complete disappointment?

Hello,
when I bought this lg I thought that despite the bad LG support I was getting nice hardware anyway...problem is that the more I read/use it the more I realize that not even Nvidia is blameless.
They call this super-phones but:
- Nvidia doesn't release the source code and developers cannot take advantage of its full potential
- They didn't include the NEON instructions, on which Skype is based. The tegra 2 will probably never have video calls, they'll skip directly to tegra 3 for sure. I tried google talk, for what I've seen skype is smoother. Am I wrong?
- They claim 1080p video decoding. OK, problem is that I wasn't able to play ANY video with hardware acceleration, not even some youtube videos that use h.264 main profile.
I wonder why Samsung would use this chipset so limited in the galaxy R.
And I think that when it will be "time" for it be mature tegra 3 will come out and everyone will stop supporting it.
(is it possible to use Samsung galaxy R code to implement to the LG in some way? Since they share the same hardware...)

Tegra 2 is excellent, LG just ducked it up.
That's all there is to say

kiljacken said:
Tegra 2 is excellent, LG just ducked it up.
That's all there is to say
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yes, i agree with you, tablets usually use tegra2. so nvidia is not disappointing anyone or anyvendor

The major advantage of Tegra 2 is time to market -- it was available a good quarter or two before other dual core SoCs.
And that's about it. NV seems to have rushed it out of the door and failed to follow up with a higher clocked version, nor offering any developer support. They're only interested in selling as many Honeycomb tablets as possible, and even then, they've failed to put any dent on iPad2 sales.

Not having NEON and refusing to open up sources is a huge letdown for sure. And it is the only dualcore not able to change clocks individually between two cores, which doesn't help battery life. On idle it would help just to not use the second core, which tegra2 doesn't allow for.
Lets hope the Nexus Prime will be the killer device with 1.5ghz dualcore and the nice 1280x720 screen, and since it is a Nexus, devsupport. I will take it on day one it will be released

wapz said:
Not having NEON and refusing to open up sources is a huge letdown for sure. And it is the only dualcore not able to change clocks individually between two cores, which doesn't help battery life. On idle it would help just to not use the second core, which tegra2 doesn't allow for.
Lets hope the Nexus Prime will be the killer device with 1.5ghz dualcore and the nice 1280x720 screen, and since it is a Nexus, devsupport. I will take it on day one it will be released
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Tegra 2 does indeed disable the second core when it isn't needed.

-sandro- said:
- They didn't include the NEON instructions, on which Skype is based. The tegra 2 will probably never have video calls, they'll skip directly to tegra 3 for sure. I tried google talk, for what I've seen skype is smoother. Am I wrong?
- They claim 1080p video decoding. OK, problem is that I wasn't able to play ANY video with hardware acceleration, not even some youtube videos that use h.264 main profile.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsX_VQ-bzAs

lorismarcos said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsX_VQ-bzAs
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words... what happened to this? abandoned I suppose.

The only hope for skype video calling optimus 2x has is from galaxy r.
Just because its a samsung i bet skype will back it up.

I also try to play 720p youtube videos and it doesn't play smooth
So wtf is going wrong
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God almighty, what is up with people complaining all the time :S. phone works great. no lag and all with my phone

rukhi said:
God almighty, what is up with people complaining all the time :S. phone works great. no lag and all with my phone
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yes. with custom rom its a great choice. i hope the drivers will be available when offical GB will be released

ionutp said:
I also try to play 720p youtube videos and it doesn't play smooth
So wtf is going wrong
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The screen size is only what corresponds to 480p, so showing anything bigger than that would be a waste of processing power, and power in general

Hi guys! Considering 720/1080p youtube playback, does it work correctly when the phone is connected to a tv via hdmi? Also, is there a difference in flash performance between stock rom and cm7? Thank you!

kiljacken said:
The screen size is only what corresponds to 480p, so showing anything bigger than that would be a waste of processing power, and power in general
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hdmi mirroring?

Trying to watch HD clips on the phone is stupid: the phone has not only to decode an HD stream, it has also to resize it!
Try watching an HD clip on the TV *without* mirroring (without the phone screen showing the same content), it should be much better.

ionutp said:
I also try to play 720p youtube videos and it doesn't play smooth
So wtf is going wrong
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cm7 can play 720p smooth..

kiljacken said:
The screen size is only what corresponds to 480p, so showing anything bigger than that would be a waste of processing power, and power in general
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i'm not interested if is a loss of power or not i'm only interested when i download something random from the net that i can see it (porn in hd is bether lol jocking)

i have the lg optimux and it works very well, esp on the cm7 nightly.

KeePeeR26 said:
i'm not interested if is a loss of power or not i'm only interested when i download something random from the net that i can see it (porn in hd is bether lol jocking)
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That's like saying that your Panda Van should go easily up that hill with a ton of cargo because it just should. It's a ->Panda<- not a truck.
The same for the phone: if you load an HD flic on the screen the phone has to decode the stream and rescale it to fit on its smaller screen.
In essence it's almost like decoding TWO HD streams at the same time...
Now I'm sure the phone wasn't advertised as capable of decoding two streams?

LG Optimus 2x or Atrix 4g or Nexus S

Hi all,
I recently broke my dell streak, and looking for a new phone now...
I can't make my mind betwenn optimus 2x, atrix 4g and nexus s, thought will get your input on this.
I am ok with rooting and loading custom rom... may be not changing the screen of the mobile that's how I broke the streak
I am hoping all three phones I am looking at will have decent performance. I am looknig for a mobile with a decent video recording capablity and decent battery life. I read some of the threads here and looks like some of the members are unhappy about their camera.
What you think about LG optimus 2x camera? do u think its better than Atrix 4g ones? I guess Nexus is totally out of picture...
What would be your choice?
Thanks in advance for your help

O2X hands down.
CM7+latest kangs and you are flying!

I had the same deal, and i finally get the o2x and it rocks!!! Even in Stock is awesome!

I am with oleg1981, the 2X fly and have great developers.

Get de Atrix de o2x has inferior build quality and if it wasn't for developers constantly working hard at tweaking here and there it wudve been a really sad phone but whatever yu decide yu will enjoy it because of the great support from developers
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium

Hi all,
Thanks so much your input. Just wondering if you have any comments regarding tht camera quality? I read some threads where they were complaing about the quality of the camera your thoughts on that will be really helpful.
Cheers

The camera is great
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The camera is great if you are running a ROM based on the stock LG software. It's not that great when running on CM7 due to loss of frames when recording video in low light.

Jive1983 said:
Hi all,
Thanks so much your input. Just wondering if you have any comments regarding tht camera quality? I read some threads where they were complaing about the quality of the camera your thoughts on that will be really helpful.
Cheers
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Hello!
Camera is ok if you use it in good light conditions and in short distance with the flash. It isn't very good when used in dimmed/low light or twilight.
BTW: CM7 camera is ok now. As now almost everything is working well on Cyanogenmod 7 with custom kernel (even all sensors) - but only the FM radio - that is working much better with stock based custom roms.
I can't say much in comparison to the cameras of the Atrix or the Nexus S.
The camera of the Samsung Galaxy S2 is definitely much better though.
But there are test about that (concerning camera quality) available on the internet - as a German yoke says ask the nice Indian (internet with Saxon dialect tongue = "Inder nett" )
The Atrix by the way sounds very good on paper (more RAM, faster CPU) and should be a really decent phone too - but it is a little bigger - IMHO the LG O2x has the right size - didn't want a bigger phone with more than 4".

True the camera is better than it was before (brightness has improved). I still miss the full frame recording of the stock rom.
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Hi all,
Thanks very much for your replies. Its been really helpful. I am going to pick one up this weekend...

You should choose between Atrix and 2x, Nexus S is single core...the past now.
My advice is 2x.

What you like about LG Optimus 2x?

Hello guys, this is me
As we've many threads about minus signs of 2x. I've created this about what are good things about LG Optimus 2X?
What features of Optimus 2x you guys like?
As per my views these are the things I like about 2x:
+Adorable IPS LCD display
+Very good quality LG Music player shipped with hw(libs) equalizer
+Powerful vivid HW accelarated LG video player
+8M pixel camera with high quality
+Powerfull GPU to play each and every HD games
+HDMI functionality
+Very good aligned LG keyboard iPhone like
+Perfect LCD Size not too big and not too small
+Impressive look although not being slim like S2
+Powerfull HW to handle more upcoming 2-3 OS without compromize
Now your turn.
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spica1234 said:
Hello guys, this is me
As we've many threads about minus signs of 2x. I've created this about what are good things about LG Optimus 2X?
What features of Optimus 2x you guys like?
As per my views these are the things I like about 2x:
+Adorable IPS LCD display
+Very good quality LG Music player shipped with
+Powerful vivid HW accelarated LG video player
+8M pixel camera with high quality
+Powerfull GPU to play each and every HD games
+HDMI functionality
+Very good aligned LG keyboard iPhone like
+Perfect LCD Size not too big and now too small
+Impressive look although not being slim like S2
+Powerfull HW to handle more upcoming 2-3 OS without compromize
Now your turn.
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+1
plus i also love the fact that this phone is almost impossible to brick

skylinegt77 said:
+1
plus i also love the fact that this phone is almost impossible to brick
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Yeah we've seen not even a single incidence of TRUE brick case here. So we can call it best R & D device aswell
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plus the fact that it costed almost half of what the contenders costed even tho it offered the same and in some cases better performance

Affordable piece of great hardware ... I am really very happy with it, although big parts of this is based on the work of developers here on XDA.
As former Motorola user let's add one thing: NO LOCKED BOOTLOADER!!
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also 2 speakers

No sorry, just mono. The second is microphone
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ohhh, really?

At the time I bought mine it cost about half the price of similar performing phones.
I like that.
Also, some excellent mod roms (Temasek, Django, Gueste) so the crappy LG software implementation doesn't matter (although the latest official roms might be OK (?) but they were NOT when I bought the phone, lol).
And some excellent kernels too.

I liked the hardware.
The solid feel of the phone, not to mention the IPS screen which I found much better than the SGS2's AMOLED display at the time of buying (about a year ago). Price was good too.
It's size is also a winner in my books, I wouldn't really want to go any bigger height wise.. so I'm not sure what my next upgrade is going to be considering the trend in modern android phones is BIGGER IS BETTER

pl3nty said:
I liked the hardware.
The solid feel of the phone, not to mention the IPS screen which I found much better than the SGS2's AMOLED display at the time of buying (about a year ago). Price was good too.
It's size is also a winner in my books, I wouldn't really want to go any bigger height wise.. so I'm not sure what my next upgrade is going to be considering the trend in modern android phones is BIGGER IS BETTER
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well to some extent of that i agree, but i mean come on, whos gonna go around with a galaxy note in his pocket for example XD

skylinegt77 said:
well to some extent of that i agree, but i mean come on, whos gonna go around with a galaxy note in his pocket for example XD
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I know people who do that. Irritating, but not as irritating as people owning a smartphone and an EXTRA Galaxy Note. I wonder.
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Sörnäinen said:
I know people who do that. Irritating, but not as irritating as people owning a smartphone and an EXTRA Galaxy Note. I wonder.
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looooooool. if i had a note i think id sell it right away and buy a 4x or a one-x XD

What I like:
The speed of the phone, all possibilities of kernels and roms meaning that we have first class devs working on it hard to share the best of them selves and of course the design are amazing compared to other devices
Now, what i don't like are the memory, even my defy MB525 has better ram memory and the fact LG are to slow releasing stock ics
All and all I love this phone, I also bought a new one after breaking the glass after a massive fall
Mostly thanks to Spica and Carburanos work in addition to hei125, owain, Flix, and all the rest i don't remember while while writing and driving my car
Sent from latest Django Manouche with latest Spica Kernel

What i like about my LG Optimus 2x is the built quality.Had at least 3 to 4 falls & slips from hand,still my O2x is functional and bear only a scratch on bottom.Loved the IPS display.Picture and vids look so true to eye.Was bit disappointed with it's single mono speaker as was in an illusion that O2x had stereo speakers.
Audio quality was so low but thanks to O2x Developers and xda this problem is thing of past.HDMI was another feature which attracted me as now i could share all my precious moments with friends and family.When bought LG Optimus 2x it was the only Dual Core smartphone in the market and later on other smart phones featured
the same but still far more expensive than O2x.LG support for O2x from FROYO 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.4 was sh***y but the developer community whether CyanogenMod or XDA community had made this device a success for us.
Would like to thank spica,carburano,SuperSkill,flix,temasek,Stefan Gündhör,Topogigi,paulobrien,erestor6,Hell_97 and all those developers who had made O2x not only suitable for daily use but revolutionized it much further.Cheers to all of them.This developers community also made me like my O2x verrrrrry much.So luck to have them all developing for our O2x which has been abandoned by LG.

HDMI
What I most like is the HDMI output. It´s REALLY usefull when you don't have a media player, on a friend's house or at your own place.
Almost everyday I watch movies via MXPlayer or Netflix.
Ps.: Now I'm waiting for a ICS Custom ROM with Video Decoding/Encoding working to get it even better.

previously i had HTC hd2...really rocking phone...with android....stilll now it rules in single core..coming to dual core for more performance.....LG 2x......really awesome with almost all feature.....made to work by XDA developers..............thanks all...!!!.............is thr any way to include WIFI direct in LG 2x.......i tink tats missing in our droid....

The xda community developing
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It was a very cheap phone compare to the galaxy s2
and the build quality is amazing. We have also the best devs

BEST part is that it is cheaper(for the kinda hardware it has)

[Q] Camera problems! Solution?

Hello,
I guess everybody who owns a 4X will encounter problems with the camera app.
When recording video the 4X will try to focus again and again and finally the movie is crap! When taking pictures it is even worse, most the pictures are out of focus!
I have tried some camera apps but none of them correct the out of focus problem.
Manny apps like camera 360 don't even work...
Does anybody have a solution for this problem?
I am very surpised that LG's flagship has a problem like this!
It's like LG never tried the camera app...
I am dissapointed about this issue but still i prefer the 4X over the ONE X or the S3
Having a TEGRA3 phone with 80Gb memory is a nice thing, movies, music, games as much as you want. This phone works really smooth and the TEGRA3 enhanced games are the best you can buy on the android market.
Battery last longer then the one X and it feels lighter, slimmer and has more class then the one x, but i guess that is personal opinion. Before i owned a HTC Desire HD and i can only say that even with this camera issue the 4X is my number 1 phone for the moment. So if you are looking for a TEGRA 3 GamePhone this is the one to buy !
Can XDA remove the "not to buy thread" this does not belong here !!!
Greetings to all android users out there...
PS What will happen to Android when flash support ends !?

It's been commented in another post..
The app lgcamera seems to work fine..
BTW, I agree with you, it's an amazing phone
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Yup, this app seems to fix the autofocus issue.

[Q] Support for this phone...?

Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!

android07 said:
Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!
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There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.

shut_down said:
There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.
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Thanks a lot! I really appriciate your help!

This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...

Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...

ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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well yeah of course, you're right... even I hate the shape both S3 and S3 mini has.. in my opinion, S2 and our phone has a better and solid look and feel...

Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!

android07 said:
Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!
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The sound output is normal.Not too low not too high.

We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.

phyowaiummg said:
We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.
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Mx player > settings > 2 cores for decoding > laggy 1080p playback
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