I don't see any spec about its network speed.
Some says HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s, some 14.4.
anyone knows this?
It will be 14.4 mbps
Kind of sucks for Verizon people.
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First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
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Does the TP2 hardware even support 4G? That's not something you can just "upgrade". Are you sure that they're not just offering more bandwidth via HDSPA? If that's the case, then what ROM you're using will have no effect on that seeing as nearly all custom ROMs have it on by default.
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First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Got a screenshot of your TP2 showing 4G?
from my understanding, only the touch pro 2 from europe and japan have the 4g hardware, usa only 3g hardware, thats why i bought mine from taiwan so when 4g comes out, im well equipped!!!
For AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
- Also known as HTC Tilt 2 for AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 or HSDPA 1700 / 2100
gsmarena.com
T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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what they are actually doing is claiming their 3g network as 4g. its hspa. they took a card from verizon that considered their 2g network to be 3g. "you mean, alot of our 3g network is slower than atts 2g? and the only bits that are fast enough to keep up have less coverage than their 3g and is still slower? nonsense! i choose not to believe!"
T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
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T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
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Actually, it's HSPA+, not HSPA, T-Mobile & Sprint are advertising as 4G, which is faster & only a select few devices support the new HSPA+ speeds. So, it's more like 3.75G. HSPA+ provides HSPA data rates up to 56 Mbit/s down and 22 Mbit/s up. Future revisions of HSPA+ support up to 168 Mbit/s using multiple carriers. Regular HSPA maxes out @ 14 Mbit/s. The TP2 & most of HTC's 3G/HSPA(+) devices only support 7.2 Mbit/s down, 2 Mbit/s up. So, to answer the OP ?, If the network in that area was slower than 7.2 Mbit/s down before the upgrade, you will see an increase, but it'd be maxed out at 7.2 Mbit/s due to device limitations. As this is a Hardware issue, ROM doesn't matter other than the fact the lighter ROM's runs faster & therefore can get higher speeds because of the extra free RAM/Resources. Whereas, heavy, more feature rich ROM will tax the device more & therefore the CPU/RAM/Etc. won't be able to attain max bandwidth. It's like having a 30 Mbit Cable/DSL connection on a Pentium 3 PC. It'd never get the max speed as the system is just too slow to take advantage of it.
So basically, their advertising maybe false, it is used to explain a faster network & used to simplify which devices support this new speed. Most consumers wouldn't understand all this. So instead of dealing with, "why doesn't my 3G phone get full speed? *cry*" from customers not understanding their device has a limited bandwidth. Think of it like the days of dial-up modems. ISP A has a 56K network, but User B has a 28K Modem, so User B only gets 28K speeds.
"A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based solution where facilities such as ultra-broadband (giga-bit speed such as 1000+ Mbit/s) Internet access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users."
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So it goes something like this;
2G -> EDGE (2.5G) -> 3G -> HSPA (3.5G) -> HSPA+ (3.75G?) -> 4G (?)
Also keep in mind it's measured in bits per second, not bytes. There's 8 bits per byte. So 8Mbit/s = 1 MB. Also some service providers cheat by counting it as 10 bits per byte. (b=bit/B=Byte)
EDIT: Interesting side note, according to gsmarena.com, the G2 & MyTouch 4G only supports HSPA 14.4 Mbit/s down & 5.76 Mbit/s up (T-Mobile's network is 21 Mbit/s according to reports) & the Evo 4G only supports Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbit/s.
For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
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For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
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First off what are your download and uploads speeds on AT&T 3G? The D3 can support HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s and HSDPA 14.4 Mbit/s. Download the speedtest app and confirm your speeds before calling AT&T regarding a non support device on their network.
I am getting 2413 Kbits/s downlink and 1589 Kbits/s uplink.
Sent from my XT862 using XDA App
Here is a screenshot of my results.
Have you confirmed that HSPA+ speeds are indeed active in your area?
There is nothing that you should have to do other than enter the APN settings. The same wap.Cingular APN is used for EDGE, UMTS, HSPA, etc...
I have achieved speeds up to about 8000 or so on the Droid 3 with XT883 radio, only in major areas with good service. Chances are your area or at least the tower you are connecting to does not have HSDPA active.
You are indeed getting HSPA speeds. 3G (UMTS) maxes at 384kbps. 3G/H/H+ reading in task bar is really a cosmetic thing, don't pay much attention to it. It is the real speeds you actually get (as you measured) that matter. Try other servers too, NY often is busy.
I LOVE THIS PHONE. I don't care about reviews because everyone is biased in some way.
Anyways, the specs on Motorola's site are as follows:
NETWORKS
WCDMA 1900/850/2100/1700
GSM 1900/850/900/1800, LTE Band 04/Band 17, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Category 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
I noticed the frequencies can reach T-Mobile possibly with those bands for 3G. 4G is stupid, just another hype I get better data on 3G than 4G in Florida. Even in Miami it's just pointless to go for 4G on T-Mobile.
NEVERMIND IJUST READ ANOTHER THREAD. Works fine on 21 band TMO Network.
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I have had a galaxy s3 mini since release, imported it from Europe and notice that when the phone is using edge (E) it has very slow speeds from 50-150 kbps , if i put the sim card into a galaxy 1 speeds are around 1000kbps. When i put it in wcdma only the h speeds are fine.
Anyone use this phone in canada on rogers?
Is rogers able to limit speed on non rogers phones ?
Any ideas about flashign radio or anything?
Thank you!
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I have had a galaxy s3 mini since release, imported it from Europe and notice that when the phone is using edge (E) it has very slow speeds from 50-150 kbps , if i put the sim card into a galaxy 1 speeds are around 1000kbps. When i put it in wcdma only the h speeds are fine.
Anyone use this phone in canada on rogers?
Is rogers able to limit speed on non rogers phones ?
Any ideas about flashign radio or anything?
Thank you!
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Well i am neither in canada nor on rogers but my opinion is that;
They "could" limit your speed as they can identify your device, but to be honest i doubt they would do that, its not in their interest, its not as though it could have adverse effects on their network
EDGE speeds are typically quite low (around the speeds you stated) so i don't see a problem, just don't use EDGE if you don't have to
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Well i am neither in canada nor on rogers but my opinion is that;
They "could" limit your speed as they can identify your device, but to be honest i doubt they would do that, its not in their interest, its not as though it could have adverse effects on their network
EDGE speeds are typically quite low (around the speeds you stated) so i don't see a problem, just don't use EDGE if you don't have to
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I suspect my galaxy is actually going into hsdpa 850mhz and my phone is missing 850mhz hsdpa and has 900 hsdpa which is causing the problem as its not accessing the 850 hsdpa. At home my wcdma coverage is not great.
I guess im going to have to see if I can change or enable my phone for 850 hsdpa.
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I suspect my galaxy is actually going into hsdpa 850mhz and my phone is missing 850mhz hsdpa and has 900 hsdpa which is causing the problem as its not accessing the 850 hsdpa. At home my wcdma coverage is not great.
I guess im going to have to see if I can change or enable my phone for 850 hsdpa.
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I've tried to help others with the same problem, but unfortinatly without success. I'ts hardware based.
That's why there's also a i8190L, and for US a SCH-T599.
The description says the phone uses the following bands:
3G UMTS bands: 850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands:700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2),
I'm looking to use this phone with Cricket, or other similar carriers such as MetroPCS in Jacksonville, Florida.
Before I purchase I can't seem to determine if this phone is compatible with those carriers and will achieve LTE/4G /3G reception. It's important that mostly 4G/LTE is possible as I get signal drops in my area without those bands.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
Google says yes.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/402295-moto-x-cricket-wireless.html