Hi All,
Is there *any* way I can get 3G/4G speeds on Samsung Focus S? I saw the unlock/debrand thread. Will it also enable 3G speeds on t-mobile network or is it hardware related and there is nothing we can do about it?
~ai2160
hardware...
My Focus S did 4G right out of the box.
The main reason you might not be able to get higher speed data lines is because of the frequencies your carrier uses to support those data feeds. Not all carriers are using the same bands. Rogers (here in Canada) uses the same bands as AT&T, so you pretty well have to wait until you can find an AT&T phone to buy to make it work.
T-Mobile in the US uses different bands, so their phones will only do E here in Canada. Likewise, and unlocked AT&T phone will only do E on T-Mobile in the US.
HOW THE F$%& do we get MMS to work if on Tmobile????
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That is good? What are you talking about... @waswaser quit posting random **** to get enough posts to spam the threads! Anyways I finally got data for Tmobile and now I have MMS Woohoo! AT&T is refarming some towers so people with unlocked AT&T phones will get 3g/4g on Tmobile, that will start 2013 i believe...
"T-Mobile reiterates their wish to launch 4G HSPA+ in the 1900 band in a
large number of markets by the end of the year. Current testing shows a
33% increase in HSPA+ data speeds and improved in-building coverage.
“Rolling out 4G HSPA+ services in the 1900 MHz band will also offer
customers with the ability to use a broader range of devices"
in other words... Focus S should work @ HSPA+ by the end of the year (if you are in the right market. Which, selfishly, should include NYC)
You lucky son.... Anyways I get great reception where I life, but it's more of a rural town Northwest of SEATTLE. I've tried AT&T phones here and I get HSDPA+ so would I get it when Tmobile is done refarming? I'd be happy with 3g though as EDGE blows...
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I'm only getting EDGE connection /speeds from t-mobile. However according to a press release a couple months back, my area was supported (goleta/Santa Barbara area) for HSPA+). How can I enable this network or why am I only getting edge? I am using a Criskelo rom.
Correct me if I am wrong but international note can ONLY be used at edge with US T-Mobile. The note doesn't have the radios for the Baseband of T-Mobile frequencies. As I have read in the forums in the past only at at&t can connect the note for 3g, not 100% sure for the last.
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seraphus said:
I'm only getting EDGE connection /speeds from t-mobile. However according to a press release a couple months back, my area was supported (goleta/Santa Barbara area) for HSPA). How can I enable this network or why am I only getting edge. I am using a Criskelo rom.
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if you are on GSM network .. switch to WCDMA only network in your network settings
3G/4G of T-Mobile USA uses a relatively rare frequency 1700/2100 UMTS Band IV (aka AWS). The Note can't support it. You choice is either stick at the EDGE speed or switch to AT&T(or its MVNO).
TMOUS is starting to refarm their 3G/4G frequency to which the Note will support. But I think it might takes years to get the work done.
Braxos said:
Correct me if I am wrong but international note can ONLY be used at edge with US T-Mobile. The note doesn't have the radios for the Baseband of T-Mobile frequencies. As I have read in the forums in the past only at at&t can connect the note for 3g, not 100% sure for the last.
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tmous is rolling out 1900 frequencies so it will be able to get 3g and possibly 4g depending on where you are... currently there are members on here from the northwest that have confirmed this working...
as for the question at hand i would contact tmo and ask if the towers are running and where in your area to make sure... the auto gsm/wcdma mode should work fine because if you leave the area where there is 1900 and are on wcdma only you will get no svc...
Well here's the press release: newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/new-4g-markets-nov2011
Hmm...I'm a total noob at this stuff and guess I was assuming I was gonna get HSPA+ due to it listing 1900 mhz in Santa Barbara on the Wirelessadvisor website in a zipcode search.
Am I wrong to assume that if the network is 1900 mhz band? Changing the gsm/wcdma didn't do anything. Guess I should contact t-mobile to make sure?
I know this has been talked about in a lot of threads but for some reason I can't wrap my head around it. Let me write down what I understand to be the compatibility and what is not, then please correct me where/if I'm wrong.
T-mo uses the 1700MHz and 2100MHz in conjunction (1700 to send data, 2100 to receive) for their 3G/4G network and plan on the same for their 4G LTE networks.
They are refarming their 1900MHz (currently 2G) to support 3G/4G, but not 4G LTE. The refarmed map is very limited. http://www.airportal.de/
Given the above, the One Dev Edition will be able to get 4G, if in a refarmed area, but once you travel outside you're down to Edge or 2g. Dev Edition will also not be able to get 4G LTE, as that will use the 1700/2100 combo.
I may be saying the same thing you are and if so I apologize.
I believe (and will stand corrected if I am wrong) that currently TMO is using 1700/2100 for their HSPA (3G/4G) network and are in the process of migrating HSPA to 1900.
The One will not operate HSPA on the 1700/2100 system but will work fine on 1900 system so in areas where they've converted to 1900 you'll get 3G/4G otherwise you'll be stuck on 2G (assuming that LTE is not available, which it most likely wouldn't as TMO needs the 1700/2100 for LTE.
The One will operate on LTE in 1700/2100 which is what TMO is intending to do with that system.
I hope that helps.
MG
Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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just wait, next week we will have full specs and we will know for sure.
There are two Droid Turbo listings that have gone through the FCC.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK1 is the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 900
WCDMA Band II / V
CDMA2000 BC0 / BC1
LTE Bands 2/4/7/13
This is pretty much a typical "global" Verizon phone. It does not support AT&T LTE bands but should work on their 3G network. Cricket uses the AT&T network. However there is that second Droid Turbo listing.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK2 is the other listing, it is stated as electrically identical to the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 1900
WCDMA Band II / IV / V
LTE Bands 2/4/5/7/17
This is more or less an AT&T version of the Droid Turbo. So this would be the phone you should be looking for when it eventually comes out.
Networks and Bands
CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900MHz)
LTE Cat 4 (bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
Carrier Aggregation (B4+13)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100MHz
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
AFAIK, Turbo support band 2, 4 which is compatible with T-Mobile. (1700, 2100).
I don't see the supported band in 3G and GSM but 4G
Also, Motorola planned to launch an international version of Turbo so if you don't want to get from verizon, you can get this version.
Yeah I'd suspect it was using HSPA+ because I've never gotten speeds much above 1 or 2mbps down with 3G.
Either way, definitely not a deal breaker, anything is better than dreaded EDGE/1X LOL.
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will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
thankjs
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cpufrost said:
Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
aaronc_98 said:
I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
thankjs
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
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Thanks for confirming
cpufrost said:
Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
cortez.i said:
@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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It does on tmo...
shah_vm said:
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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Yes, just tried it and was able to surf while on a call.
Speed tests show about the same speeds as well, approx 6 down, 2 up.
However when on Verizon there is no data when on a call. They need to enable LTE for voice and data. I believe it's Advanced calling 1.0.
Interestingly enough I got a text yesterday afternoon on my other number that's on an iphone 6 that is now active.
Hopefully it won't be long.
EDIT: Even though the signal icon shows 3G when the ATT sim is there it may be getting LTE. My area doesn't get good signal, typ. -115dBM on LTE and -90 dBM for HSPA, etc. I'll have to try it in an area where LTE is stronger. In any case HSPA+ is pretty good, it surfs pretty fast.
Thanks guys
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Canadian Network Support / LTE
Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
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Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
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How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
Elisha said:
How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
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Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
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Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
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32gb or 64gb?
HTC One M8
it work with venezuela bands?
2g 900 and 850
3g 900 and 1900
4g 1800
thanks
You guys are actively using the Verizon droid turbo on other Sim cards and networks? Isn't the Sim card a micro Sim card? I can use this device with T-Mobile out of the box without unlocking or needing to anything special?
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I'm thinking of porting this phone to the states. Now i understand it will not get 4g LTE connection and will limit me to an hspa+ and 3g connection. My question is to anyone who has it in the states how's the connection holding up for you? Does it bug you that you dont have LTE?
Yes, the connection is quite slow. And the 3g signal is sometimes weak even though other phones have very good LTE signals. I unlocked other bands and sometimes I have LTE connections but the speed is usually slow. However, 3g is usually bearable for me.
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3g is fine if you are not in rural area.
U should choose ATT or its mvno.