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Ok well I am considering purchasing a unlocked AT&T Tilt, but I have been reading a bit about the 3G. Currently I am a T-Mobile customer and have read they will be operating on a different band frequency for their 3G. T-Mobile will be using 1700/2100MHZ while AT&T operates on 1900/2100MHZ. Will the 3G on the phone still be compatible?
Please someone clear this up
Appreciate it
Kaiser uses (under the Band options for the phone settings)
GSM (So gprs, edge) 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
UMTS (3G, HSPDA where available) 800, 850, 1900, 2100.
So it would be partially compatible, but only on 1900 cells, not the 1700 ones. These might co-exist like in the UK where some operators use all the frequencies for better bandwidth, or they might not. I'd check with T-Mobile what frequencies are operating in the areas you'll use the phone.
Well I live in the US and they still have not rolled out the 3G network here, they said sometime by summer. So if they use 2100 then the 3G still should be able to work? Since they still will be using the frequency except the 1900.
So good news for all Diamond euro owners in LA (and other places of course)...the tmobile network supports the 2100mhz band for 3G so no need for a US version!!
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm23715.htm#7
Sorry if this is old news, but i just realized it =)
this is great if true?
T-Mobile devices use the 1700Mhz/2100Mhz frequency band (for 3G) and I thought Europe 3G devices use 900Mhz/2100Mhz. Could U clarify further...
you said it correct...tmobile does use 1700mhz/2100mhz, and the euro diamond supports 2100mhz which should work since tmobile will be using it...i spoke to a tmobile tier 2 rep, he confirmed it as well...
That can't be right. T-Mobile AWS 3G uses the 1700 MHz band for uplink and 2100 MHz for downlink. I doubt T-Mobile US set up aside any channels in the 2100 MHz band as uplink channels.
It's kind of academic, as I can't get 3G on T-Mobile USA using a Euro Diamond in NYC, where we've had 3G deployed for a few months now. I've never heard of anyone else doing it either. Oddly, there's a "UMTS(1700)" selection in the band settings in the phone control panel, but if I try selecting that, it just jumps back to using T-Mobile's normal PCS band with EDGE for data.
If that tier 2 tech can get you onto AWS 3G with your Diamond, definitely let us all know about it, but don't get your hopes up too high.
Drachen said:
That can't be right. T-Mobile AWS 3G uses the 1700 MHz band for uplink and 2100 MHz for downlink. I doubt T-Mobile US set up aside any channels in the 2100 MHz band as uplink channels.
It's kind of academic, as I can't get 3G on T-Mobile USA using a Euro Diamond in NYC, where we've had 3G deployed for a few months now. I've never heard of anyone else doing it either. Oddly, there's a "UMTS(1700)" selection in the band settings in the phone control panel, but if I try selecting that, it just jumps back to using T-Mobile's normal PCS band with EDGE for data.
If that tier 2 tech can get you onto AWS 3G with your Diamond, definitely let us all know about it, but don't get your hopes up too high.
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AWS?? well the tier 2 tech did say it...i dont know if he was just talking out of his ass or not...but we'll see in the coming weeks...ill try to get tmobile rep on the phone again to ask them how i can get it...or if i can, even though its supported..
Malik05 said:
AWS?? well the tier 2 tech did say it...i dont know if he was just talking out of his ass or not...but we'll see in the coming weeks...ill try to get tmobile rep on the phone again to ask them how i can get it...or if i can, even though its supported..
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As I understand it, if a phone says it supports 2100 it is referring to the UMTS Band 1 used in Europe which is 1920-1980MHz Uplink & 2110-2170Mhz Downlink (see UMTS Frequency Bands - Wikipedia). The 1700AWS Band (UMTS Band 4) uses 1710-1755MHz Uplink and 2110-2155MHz Downlink. So, while they do overlap some they are not identical (A Visual Guide to AWS - PhoneScoop)
So, I don't believe that a phone with 2100 EU support will work with T-Mobile 3G because it doesn't support the 'right' 2100 nor the 1700. Likewise, I don't believe that a phone with 1700 support will work for 2100 EU.
If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
RavenGirl said:
If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Do you know who this user is? maybe i can PM him and get some details...i knew i wasn't going to get 3G with the diamond, but after talking to the rep. i kind of want to look into it more since there may be a possibility.
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If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Honestly I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on him for that, I've never heard of anyone getting T-Mobile 3G and I know quite a few people with the Diamond/Raphael on T-Mobile in 3G areas.
wpsantennas said:
As I understand it, if a phone says it supports 2100 it is referring to the UMTS Band 1 used in Europe which is 1920-1980MHz Uplink & 2110-2170Mhz Downlink (see UMTS Frequency Bands - Wikipedia). The 1700AWS Band (UMTS Band 4) uses 1710-1755MHz Uplink and 2110-2155MHz Downlink. So, while they do overlap some they are not identical (A Visual Guide to AWS - PhoneScoop)
So, I don't believe that a phone with 2100 EU support will work with T-Mobile 3G because it doesn't support the 'right' 2100 nor the 1700. Likewise, I don't believe that a phone with 1700 support will work for 2100 EU.
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I have the USA sold "quad band" euro diamond distributed by htc USA. This is essentially re-flashed euro diamond hardware sold to support american networks, not the 850/1900 newest USA 3G diamond compatable with AT&T. I have looked into this issue and also talked to T-mobile and there seems to be alot of confusion regarding T-mobile's AWS USA 3G network (or maybe they have simply confused me). Here is what I have found out: Assuming they are correct, they are telling me 3G voice for T-mobile usa runs in both the 1700 AND 1900 mhz band, and therefore my euro diamond shoud be supported at 1900mhz for voice 3g support. This 1900mhz is part of the "quad band" voice radio hardware on the euro diamond. Data (AWS 3G for USA) "HSDPA" , which T-mobile has not yet released, runs in the 2100mhz bandwidth, and Data AWS "HSUPA 3g" runs in the 1700mhz bandwidth. Therefore my hardware would not support HSUPA @ 1700mhz, but would support the HSDPA @ 2100mhz. As to the idea that euro bandwidths are different than USA bandwidths, well apparently they are. For example "2100mhz" networks in europe might be actually using 2110mhz-2170mhz, whereas in the USA T-mobile's network may use 2100-2140mhz actual bands. However because these are close and still in the 2100mhz band, there should still be compatability with 2100mhz hardware radios regardless of networks varying the bandwidth slightly.
Of course this may be too optimistic, but it would be very cool if true and I am hoping for the best .
sureloch said:
I have the USA sold "quad band" euro diamond distributed by htc USA. This is essentially re-flashed euro diamond hardware sold to support american networks, not the 850/1900 newest USA 3G diamond compatable with AT&T. I have looked into this issue and also talked to T-mobile and there seems to be alot of confusion regarding T-mobile's AWS USA 3G network (or maybe they have simply confused me). Here is what I have found out: Assuming they are correct, they are telling me 3G voice for T-mobile usa runs in both the 1700 AND 1900 mhz band, and therefore my euro diamond shoud be supported at 1900mhz for voice 3g support. This 1900mhz is part of the "quad band" voice radio hardware on the euro diamond. Data (AWS 3G for USA) "HSDPA" , which T-mobile has not yet released, runs in the 2100mhz bandwidth, and Data AWS "HSUPA 3g" runs in the 1700mhz bandwidth. Therefore my hardware would not support HSUPA @ 1700mhz, but would support the HSDPA @ 2100mhz. As to the idea that euro bandwidths are different than USA bandwidths, well apparently they are. For example "2100mhz" networks in europe might be actually using 2110mhz-2170mhz, whereas in the USA T-mobile's network may use 2100-2140mhz actual bands. However because these are close and still in the 2100mhz band, there should still be compatability with 2100mhz hardware radios regardless of networks varying the bandwidth slightly.
Of course this may be too optimistic, but it would be very cool if true and I am hoping for the best .
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Unfortunately, they've provided you some bad information. Each frequency band/range has a pair of uplink and downlink frequencies - you can't use one without the other - you have to use both. Generally, the uplink and downlink frequencies are relatively close to each other however, the 1700 AWS band has uplink and downlink spread quite a distance apart. Uplink is in the 1700MHz range, downlink is in the 2100MHz range and both have to be used. In the US, 1700 & 2100 is essentially one band.
1900MHz (the PCS band) isn't 3G for T-Mobile (although they technically could put it there at some point.) Right now, 1900MHz for T-Mobile is EDGE voice and data. Most other carriers do have 3G on the 1900MHz band, T-Mobile just doesn't have enough spectrum available in that band.
In short: A phone that supports UMTS 2100 will not work for T-Mobile US 3G. A phone that supports AWS/UMTS 1700 will work for T-Mobile US 3G but not for European 2100 3G. (And 1900MHz PCS will give you traditional EDGE on T-Mobile US.)
Malik05 said:
Do you know who this user is? maybe i can PM him and get some details...i knew i wasn't going to get 3G with the diamond, but after talking to the rep. i kind of want to look into it more since there may be a possibility.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427755
post 3, ll
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2610960#post2610960
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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Perhaps somebody else can confirm this, but my speculation is no. The AWS band in the Vivid is specifically for LTE, I believe, so it wouldn't pick up HSPA on it. It has this mainly so that it's merger proof, I think. AT&T would like to use T-Mobile's AWS band for expanded LTE if the merger goes through.
galfert said:
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
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How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
engsrini said:
How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
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TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
Pirateghost said:
TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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Yes true, I missed that part of the explanation, thanks.
T-Mobile 3G = WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA = AWS Band 1700/2100 (needs both frequencies - one uploads, the other downloads)
T-Mobile 4G = HSPA+ = same requirements as 3G
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sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
solidus636 said:
sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
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I saw some OneXL users were reporting 3g speeds on TMobile as well
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
3G & HSDPA working
Wolf61477 said:
HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
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just did multiple speed tests, and i got a range from 7mbps - 10.5 mbps download and 1.5 - 4.5 upload on my vivid that was a paper weight for a while.:laugh:
nice work T-mobile:good:
Pirateghost said:
TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
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Pretty are still a no go..I believe only there 3g networks were changed..could he wrong though...
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sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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In case you still need help, here is what I suggest:
For the unlock, use unlockusa.com to get your code. They're the fastest and most reliable on the market.
For the internet, use the following settings for your APN (Credits: http://htcsource.com/2012/08/how-to-sim-unlock-the-htc-vivid-and-add-t-mobiles-access-point/) :
Name: T-Mobile.com
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: wap.voicestream.com
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 261.155.165.50
MMS port: Not Set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC:310
MNC: 260
Authentication type; Not Set
APN type: default
APN enable/disable: Checked
Bearer:Unspecified
Enjoy your cool phone !
I hope that helps. It worked for me, as I was having the same issue.
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
projectisaac said:
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
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Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
Wdenton said:
Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
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I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
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rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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Hopefully it doesn't take long is what I meant, was half asleep when I posted the reply.
rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
projectisaac said:
I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
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That. That's what I meant. APN settings came on the phone's SIM:
Enter name: Simple
APN: simple
Proxy:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy:
MMS Port:
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authentication type:
APN type: default,supl,mms
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Unspecified
MVNO Type: None.
Currently have Unlimited Talk, Text, 4g Data (up to 3 GB per month, then down to 3G speeds) for $50.
Thanks! And that's one helluva plan. I'm thinking I might go and do that if the $30/mo plan shows I have good coverage up here in the Northlands. A pity you're not getting the true 4G LTE service though, but I suppose T-mobile's 4G is pretty freakin' fast (HSPA+ 42Mb/s is pretty nice). Thanks for sharing the APN!
Hey guys
I got XZ C6603 today from handtec. I activated brand new LTE simcard at rogers store and set up lte apn.
Soon as I did that data connection rapidly changing from h+ to 3g for a while then drop the data connection and phone reception as well.
Seems like lot of ppl here in Canada having trouble getting LTE connection but I am having hard time getting my phone reception and H+ connection.
I'm not sure either XZ is defect or this phone is simply wont work with Rogers.
Any solutions?? or should I just return the phone back to handtec?
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
ssj_jaypee said:
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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Now I have solid reception + HSPA+ Thanks! :good:
Hope we can use LTE soon though
ssj_jaypee said:
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600
I would not use a phone on Rogers that can't get 1900Mhz but ... You should be able to use 2600 LTE. Have you entered the LTE APN ?
Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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HSPA+ works fine where I am on my 6603.
People have been able to get LTE on theirs as well, depending on the region.
EG8196 said:
You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600
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My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.
arlaken said:
My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.
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You need band 4 and band 10. Each frequency is used for different reasons (upstream/downstream). Just having 2,600 Mhz won't do anything. It's already been confirmed by multiple users that LTE doesn't work in North America (AT&T, Rogers, etc.)
That's why the C6603 wasn't released in North America.
The leaked C6606 model should support it, as well as the ZL. (http://playstation.com/psm/certified.html)
LTE on Rogers explained: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38864511#post38864511
Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe
ccloudc said:
Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe
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Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.
BluechipJ said:
Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.
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Hi, can you tell me how to get the lte band menu?
Regards
So after the denim update, AWS (aka 1700/2100 or LTE Band 4) support for the icon(929) became available, and because of this I purchased the Icon and I love it. However I live in Canada and have a month to month plan with Mobilicity. I guess I didn't do my research well enough (I'd like to think the internet was a bit misleading but....i guess its matter of perspective). Mobilicity solely rely on the AWS band frequency. They don't offer LTE but instead use HSPA . I knew that already but I figured that since AWS was supported I could receive HSPA signal over the 4G radio but nope I was wrong.
So I guess there are enough distinct differences between HSPA on AWS and LTE on AWS enough for them to be not cross compatible? Is this a hardware "issue" or a firmware/software one that I could do something about? Is it possible to enable 2G/3G/HSPA over the 4G radio? Or maybe I can get it to work by setting the APN correctly? I looked at some phones specs over on GSMArena which do offer HSPA + LTE support over AWS, I really want to say that it seems unlikely that 2 or more pieces of hardware are required to offer 2 services on what is essentially the same frequency.