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Everyone is writing that the Nook Color is supposed to be a great tablet.
I somehow haven't started to enjoy it at all. I'm having massive problems with the touchscreen, when it's cold outside I can not use it inside for a while - till it warmes up again - the touchscreen gets unresponsive and random taps.
I also get random taps sometimes and the tab becomes completely unusable.
I can't find any slick ipad-style apps. And generally can't find a lot great apps, no xfire client (xfmobile doesnt work), no internet radio etc...
There's no real good Os, cm7 has no videos, honeycomb is too laggy, I haven't tried Froyo really...
I want to enjoy my Nook Color, but somehow I can't really - especially because of the touchscreen, it's ruining the whole joy.
I initially wanted to buy a cover for my "iphone cover" for my ipod and then tether the connection to the nook, but im quite unsure, because the thing isn't working well.
I'm actually thinking about selling the device again on ebay and getting a galaxy tab or a dell streak.
A lot of the issues you're describing, touchscreen aside, aren't realty problems with the device, but moreover the fact that Google only really released tablet intended apps 2 weeks ago. The apps you're saying you're not liking or waiting for are designed for Honeycomb, not froyo/eclair which is what NookColor base is composed of.
Just give it time man, the awesome will come
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Anyone who is telling you it's a great tablet is exaggerating... It's always going to be an eBook reader first. With this community it can become more but it is sold solely as an eBook reader.
I've got no problem with it being a ereader primarily, i was actually looking for an ereader when I found the Nook Color. But if the touchscreen is so bad sometimes that I can't even flip the page, or it starts zooming in and out randomly, my reading experience is also not so splendid anymore.
I'm going to try one last thing - going back to stock 1.1 and then I'll give Froyo a try.
huh
Sounds like you're in need of a hug.
Who cares if you sell it on ebay and buy a tab? Do it and enjoy, don't whine here about it.
I haven't tried it yet, but by most accounts, you have skipped the best os. Nookie Froyo is supposed to be the most useful and stable os available (completely stock is more stable though). I don't think anyone said it would be as good as an iPad. They just said it was much better than the budget android tablets and a great value for it's low price.
Sounds like 1 of these 3.
1. You're doing it wrong.
2. User error.
3. Hardware issues.
{Diemex} said:
...I can't find any slick ipad-style apps. And generally can't find a lot great apps, no xfire client (xfmobile doesnt work), no internet radio etc...
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Strange,
I thought Pandora actually qualifies as an Internet radio .
Anyway, are you saying that even with rooted Nook and Android Marketplace you can not install any of the internet radio apps? For example, highly popular TuneIn Radio? I haven't yet rooted my Nook but TuneIn Radio was one of the main reasons I was looking forward to doing it. I am not a big fan of Tablet-based games and I prefer to watch movies on my big screen TV, but music, radio, unlimited Web Browsing (hello, Apple ;-) and photo-frame app were my biggest drivers in getting Nook Color over the first-edition Nook.
As for the actual issue... keep the screen clean and put a film kit on it. If you still have glitches, go get it exchanged. If you bought a car and it only ran on 3 cylinders you'd get it exchanged for free, right?
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Sounds like 1 of these 3.
1. You're doing it wrong.
2. User error.
3. Hardware issues.
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I vote both 1 and 2
{Diemex} said:
Everyone is writing that the Nook Color is supposed to be a great tablet.
I somehow haven't started to enjoy it at all. I'm having massive problems with the touchscreen, when it's cold outside I can not use it inside for a while - till it warmes up again - the touchscreen gets unresponsive and random taps.
I also get random taps sometimes and the tab becomes completely unusable.
I can't find any slick ipad-style apps. And generally can't find a lot great apps, no xfire client (xfmobile doesnt work), no internet radio etc...
There's no real good Os, cm7 has no videos, honeycomb is too laggy, I haven't tried Froyo really...
I want to enjoy my Nook Color, but somehow I can't really - especially because of the touchscreen, it's ruining the whole joy.
I initially wanted to buy a cover for my "iphone cover" for my ipod and then tether the connection to the nook, but im quite unsure, because the thing isn't working well.
I'm actually thinking about selling the device again on ebay and getting a galaxy tab or a dell streak.
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A little bit of research could have prevented your disappointment.
Before buying something, do a Google search on it and see the good and bad points of whatever item you are looking to buy.
Unfortunately, the bad decision was all yours.
devis said:
I vote both 1 and 2
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Me too. It's not perfect but works very well for me.
ebaychuck said:
Anyone who is telling you it's a great tablet is exaggerating... It's always going to be an eBook reader first. With this community it can become more but it is sold solely as an eBook reader.
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Its sold more like a tablet limited to be being an ereader for the time being by B&N, as they have a update promised to bring a market and apps with it.
As was said earlier, this is more a problem with android ifself or the apps not being designed to handle the screen or hardware and issuses this brings (like scale problems or angry birds not showing up for awhile b/c we dont have a cell modem).
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I'm in Germany, otherwise I would have got it exchanged long ago already.
What's is that film kit for the Screen - I was loooking for something to put on the screen but I couldn't find anything.
{Diemex} said:
I've got no problem with it being a ereader primarily, i was actually looking for an ereader when I found the Nook Color. But if the touchscreen is so bad sometimes that I can't even flip the page, or it starts zooming in and out randomly, my reading experience is also not so splendid anymore.
I'm going to try one last thing - going back to stock 1.1 and then I'll give Froyo a try.
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Try warming up your fingers and using the screen when it is cold. It is more likely that your fingers are less conductive than the screen is not working.
(Im serious btw, I have the same problem)
The touch screen does'nt like moisture or wet hand. If you go from cold to warm place, you'll get a lot of moisture on the device
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Try warming up your fingers and using the screen when it is cold. It is more likely that your fingers are less conductive than the screen is not working.
(Im serious btw, I have the same problem)
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I haven't thought of that, my hands are generally cold, when i was outside then they are nearly dead cold - my ipodTouch works perfectly no matter in what condition my hands are, but that's also a different quality.
Is there any way to get a similar film/coating that is supposed to be on the touchscreen of apple devices onto the nook?
Could you tell exactly how cold it was when you're experienced touchscreen problems? Today I used Nook when temperature was around 0 degrees Celsius and the only problem I had was that screen surface isn't slippery enough, so it was hard to play Glow Hockey.
Has anyone really called a Nook Color a "Great Tablet?"
I have mostly seen "best tablet under $300," which it is. I am loving mine, if only because after years of having an iPhone getting to switch Safari for Firefox is a godsend...
i have no problem running the slacker radio app. so no problems with internet radio.
...I can understand the "Why would I want a tablet?" crowd a little better. I'm late to the smartphone party; my half-bright phone (SE Walkman 760) kept me happy for quite a while, with first a netbook and then the NC filling the gap between phone and PC. The other day, though, I snagged a used Xperia X10 on craigslist, and I'm starting to wonder how much use my NC will see aside from e-reading, which would be served as well or better by an e-ink device.
I mean, if the phone and the tablet are both in arm's reach, sure, I'll go for the bigger screen, but their uses are almost 100% redundant now. The only thing I couldn't see doing on the phone is reading comic books, which I rarely do on the NC anyway, and I could still read b&w comics on e-ink. Some games would be kind of pointless on the X10, but overall the two devices break even there, given the NC's bigger screen and the X10's better touch response. The same could be said for web-browsing; the NC's screen is a gorgeous klutz, as touch screens go. That trade-off doesn't apply to tablets in general, but the rest pretty much do; many phones are at least as capable as any tablet near the NC's price range.
The NC is a great platform for exploring ROMs and mods to a greater extent than I'd be comfortable doing on my phone--really, the NC has been a hobby unto itself in the time I've had it, but I think I've covered all the mods I care to explore. I may well sell it off and pick up a N2E or other rootable Android e-ink device (are there any others yet?) in the near future.
I started with the smartphone, then picked up my NC a year later. The Nook is very much my reader of choice. On long hauls, I'm OK with running down my Nook's battery, while keeping my phone for "serious" use.
Of course, the phone does SMS more cleanly. The phone is always with me, whereas the Nook is more for planned long periods of downtime. While I could do it all on my phone, the larger Nook screen has made reading and browsing more of something I enjoy doing.
- Bob
Battery life is the upside of redundancy, for sure, but for reading at least, an e-ink device would have substantial advantages over the NC in that department. Something like the STR that can be rooted to display pretty much any document format and has some limited browsing capability might end up absorbing more of my juice-intensive activities than the NC. It's also somewhat relevant, for me, that the STR would be more efficient in terms of my personal power consumption, drawing much less juice off the grid.
I'm not decided on shelving the NC--I've had the phone less than a week, so I'll see how my usage patterns shake out. Still, it's tempting to go e-ink. It would also give me a new device to mod
I use my phone on the go and my Nook at home. I like having a bigger screen to do my browsing, movie watching, book read etc.
I don't don't see why you would drop the nook for an e-ink as the nook can do almost anything while a stand alone reader does one thing.
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I don't don't see why you would drop the nook for an e-ink as the nook can do almost anything while a stand alone reader does one thing.
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What it can do is immaterial if I do not in fact use it to do those things--most of my uses for the larger display would be met by the STR, primarily reading and some browsing.
I don't know, though--I probably will end up sticking with the NC. A lot of my reading is at night, where the backlight is a plus, and every once in a while I do get into some dumb game on the NC (often sitting less than six feet away from a PC with probably 20 real games installed ).
Mainly, I just have more sympathy for the people who are baffled by the tablet phenomenon. A decent Android phone is an extremely capable device, and all a tablet really brings to the table are those extra inches.
Since I flash my phone quite often I try to keep the installed apps to a minimum while my nook is loaded to the hilt. Since it (the Nook) fits in my back pocket I take it everywhere so it keeps me from draining my phone's battery as well.
My $.02 with data being so expensive for phones now I actually save money by using the nook everywhere and not using phone data. I love my nook, I can hardly even stand browsing the web on my phone now that I have been spoiled with the nooks brilliant screen. I use my phone primarily when I am super bored in class and to keep updated on email everywhere. And my phone is a mytouch.4g so not a bad phone for comparison. I don't even understand the hype on the Amazon tablet except for the price, if you ask me the brilliant people that designed the nook color should be receiving all the press. Everything but dual core almost a year in advance, am I wrong?
Cant agree more, I found myself using nook more than my EVO.
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My $.02 with data being so expensive for phones now I actually save money by using the nook everywhere and not using phone data.
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Would you please elaborate on that? I don't have a data plan for my phone because I have almost universal access to good WiFi networks, and it doesn't cost me any.
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Would you please elaborate on that? I don't have a data plan for my phone because I have almost universal access to good WiFi networks, and it doesn't cost me any.
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Right, you can always use both when there is wifi, I would choose nook everytime. But since I started using my nook so much, I reduced my phone data plan to 2.5gb instead of 5gb, mostly because I tend to hold off using my phone for internet and stuff especially on data since the nook is so much bigger and also my primary Android device now.
I watched about 4 hours worth of Archer on my NC while flying from Raleigh to Denver recently. Can't imagine doing that (enjoyably) on my phone. Video quality its pretty darn good on the Nook.
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I watched about 4 hours worth of Archer on my NC while flying from Raleigh to Denver recently. Can't imagine doing that (enjoyably) on my phone. Video quality its pretty darn good on the Nook.
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For frequent flyers who aren't trying to work on the plane, tablets are great, no question. Me, I take a 2-hour trip every month or two, and while it's not out of the question I would want to watch a movie, more often I end up reading or listening to music or audiobooks, and/or napping.
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My $.02 with data being so expensive for phones now I actually save money by using the nook everywhere and not using phone data.
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Yeah, $$ is still my primary concern, I'm no luddite (if that's not obvious from running a hacked nook), but the required data plans for phones add up to hundreds, sometimes thousands a year (eg; family). Personally, I'd rather spend that money on other areas (travel / retirement), so I'm seeing how long I can go for feature phone + nook.
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I'm seeing how long I can go for feature phone + nook.
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That's what I was doing when I picked up the NC in May; no way was I getting a smart phone on contract. Since I ditched my contract, though, getting a smartphone actually lowered my phone bill, or at least forced me to look into my options and discover it could be lower. I was doing AT&T/GoPhone's $50 prepaid unlimited they introduced this summer, but they blocked my data when I got the X10, so I'm looking at what I can do, and they'd introduced another new plan last month, with 250 min. and unlimited texts for $25. I don't have to carry any data, but I got a 10MB/$5 "emergency" plan in case I need a map in a tight spot...or want to check Facebook at a bus stop
At any rate, I'm in love with my NC again, mostly because I found an app that handles both epubs and pdfs really well (Mantano) and another one that can read my rtfs (CoolReader). I'm still taking Mantano for a test drive, but I expect it will replace Aldiko and ezPDF. I swear I have about ten reader apps
You guys looking for cheap smartphones. Check out Virgin Mobile. $35 a month unlimited data, and texting with 300 minutes. It's on Sprints network so depends where you are but I have great coverage everywhere I go. Also its prepaid so no evil contracts!
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Taosaur said:
Battery life is the upside of redundancy, for sure, but for reading at least, an e-ink device would have substantial advantages over the NC in that department. Something like the STR that can be rooted to display pretty much any document format and has some limited browsing capability might end up absorbing more of my juice-intensive activities than the NC. It's also somewhat relevant, for me, that the STR would be more efficient in terms of my personal power consumption, drawing much less juice off the grid.
I'm not decided on shelving the NC--I've had the phone less than a week, so I'll see how my usage patterns shake out. Still, it's tempting to go e-ink. It would also give me a new device to mod
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I think you'll find that once the novelty wears off you won't want to deal with the tiny screen unless it's your only option (ie at the dr, lunch etc.). I use my fascinate for phone calls, wifi hotspot and personal email and gchat at work (blocked on my work laptop) or when I have nothing else. The 7"screen is the right compromise between comfort and big enough text to be comfortable for extended use where the phone isn't, even with the beautiful amoled screen on the fascinate. I use the NC at home for most browsing and reading (and for tracking my fantasy football team on sundays).
Taosaur said:
At any rate, I'm in love with my NC again, mostly because I found an app that handles both epubs and pdfs really well (Mantano) and another one that can read my rtfs (CoolReader). I'm still taking Mantano for a test drive, but I expect it will replace Aldiko and ezPDF. I swear I have about ten reader apps
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Holy hell! I LOVE mantano! It's an immediate new favorite over aldiko and already has all the things I loved about aldiko, but it handles the PDFs soooo much better. The hint on using coolreader for rtf's was also good, as i gave up looking for something that could handle that format.
Now i'm going to go whole hog and couple mantano to calibre and be in heaven...
A hundred shiny new internets to you for such a great find, sir!
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You guys looking for cheap smartphones. Check out Virgin Mobile. $35 a month unlimited data, and texting with 300 minutes. It's on Sprints network so depends where you are but I have great coverage everywhere I go. Also its prepaid so no evil contracts!
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I considered them (and could have sworn it was $25 when I looked at it), but the only Android they had was the LG Optimus V, which didn't look so hot, and while their service is decent right where I live, it's extremely spotty everywhere else I go. "Unlimited" sounds great, but "enough" is just as good for all practical purposes, and the aftermarket for AT&T phones is quite solid.
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Holy hell! I LOVE mantano! It's an immediate new favorite over aldiko and already has all the things I loved about aldiko, but it handles the PDFs soooo much better. The hint on using coolreader for rtf's was also good, as i gave up looking for something that could handle that format.
Now i'm going to go whole hog and couple mantano to calibre and be in heaven...
A hundred shiny new internets to you for such a great find, sir!
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Mantano CS/development is very engaged, too, and making constant improvements. They're active in this thread over on mobileread: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131997
I wish I could find a rtf editor for Android. I don't have a keyboard for the NC right now, but it is my preferred medium for word processing, and I'm thinking about doing NaNoWriMo this year, so it would come in handy when I'm on the road around Thanksgiving.
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I considered them (and could have sworn it was $25 when I looked at it), but the only Android they had was the LG Optimus V, which didn't look so hot, and while their service is decent right where I live, it's extremely spotty everywhere else I go. "Unlimited" sounds great, but "enough" is just as good for all practical purposes, and the aftermarket for AT&T phones is quite solid.
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Yes it was $25 and I'm still grandfathered into that price. They do have other Androids now the Moto Triumph looks pretty good but they also got some HTC phone and the optimus slider.
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This is a fairly thorough review including different states for battery drain and lots more. Thought I would share.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...on-googles-nexus-7-is-a-fantastic-200-tablet/
still no mention of audio quality over the headphone jack.
word is the default tegra3 chipset is very very bad for audio
That review has been talked about a lot, mostly in the Reviews topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738374&page=4
Sorry. Must have missed it. Mod feel free to delete or move
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Yesh, I didn't like this part:
A few days after the Nexus 7 hit developers' hands, a number of outlets reported that the tablet has problems with ghosting. Bringing up an image and letting it set on the screen for a couple of minutes would leave an impression of the image on the screen for up to a few minutes after the user has navigated away. We were able to recreate the problem, and found high-contrast images were particularly susceptible to imprinting ghosts on the screen.
However, the more we tried to recreate it, the faster the effect seemed to fade after we navigated away from the ghosted image. Eventually it was fading in a matter of seconds. The problem seems to be related to whether the screen is warmed up or not—if the tablet hasn't been recently used, an idle image will remain ghosted on the display for at least a couple of minutes, even as users continually change what the screen is showing. But once it's been on for a while—even if the image is left up for up to ten minutes—the ghost fades in a couple of seconds. There definitely is a problem, but it doesn't strike us as serious. That's as long as it doesn't, for instance, get worse as the tablet gets older.
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I've never seen a tablet screen do this. Very disconcerting. As a side, what does the price of this do to other android tablet makers? Like imagine your Samsung, yeah it's great that you can take this OS for free and make a tablet but then google is selling a tablet at cost (cause they have other motives than selling widgets). I'm just wondering if this would make other hardware manufacturers bow out of the future generations of tablet making.
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As a side, what does the price of this do to other android tablet makers? Like imagine your Samsung, yeah it's great that you can take this OS for free and make a tablet but then google is selling a tablet at cost (cause they have other motives than selling widgets). I'm just wondering if this would make other hardware manufacturers bow out of the future generations of tablet making.
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The Kai platform was already designed to sell tablets at sub-$200 prices (presumably with a profit), and the profit for the 8GB Nexus was lower-bounded at $15. For the 16GB, probably much more.
So the tech to make profits at this level is already there, and I see this price competition as only a good thing. Of course, this is just a guess since we can't know exactly how well other companies are able to compete, but in the worst case scenario they can partner with NVIDIA (a terrible option for us consumers, but still an option).
Well, hopefully it's spurs on cheaper tablets and not companies pulling out of the tablet market.
But that ghosting thing has me concerned. I was putting aside my no sdcard/hdmi gripe and probably buying this. I still will probably but I'd like to see how bad the ghosting is.
And say something stays on the screen for a long time? Like a hud in a video game. Could it result in screen burn and not simply ghosting? Just a problem you never hear about with any display these days never mind tablets.
here's a write-up on with some screenshots:
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Hopefully, it's only with the white units that were given out at the google i/o but I don't see why? I can't see the displays changing so late in the game.
I don't have any ghosting, bad luck of them to get a bad batch.
Wow. Very good review. Its nice to see someone's view in writing. Reviewers are getting lazy lately. Casey brings a fresh view and insight to new tech. I'll look forward to her next writing.
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Ars Technica can go take a hike, they won't ever get a web hit from me ever again, they lost all credibility the moment they started employing fanboy writers like Ben Kuchera.
Without even reading it, I can predict what it will say, it will complain about the 1.6MP camera (despite the iPad2 having 700kP camera), it will complain about the lack of a MicroSD card (despite the iPad also not having any expandable storage). All these "tech" sites don't know their arse from their elbow, it's never a level playing field with them.
In their eyes, the iPad is the best things since sliced bread, because Apple just rolled up with a truckload of advertising cash. but when a product comes along that has similar limitations, but at half the price, they are the first to jump on the whinge bandwagon.
I also don't need to read reviews to tell me what I have bought is a fine product.
You should read the review before accusing them of biase.
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Yeah, like, that prediction was pretty much off in every way possible.
Regarding the image retention, sounds like I/O units only. Production units seem fine
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/03/the-nexus-7-has-surprisingly-bad-display-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/
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Regarding the image retention, sounds like I/O units only. Production units seem fine
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/03/the-nexus-7-has-surprisingly-bad-display-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/
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Nice to see they responded. I'm not a "stand in a pitch black room and measure light bleed" kind of guy so I wasn't really worried about it anyway, but hopefully the problem was limited to pre-production units as indicated.
Pretty fair review. My only gripes was the criticism regarding the split keyboard. Uhhh, we have about 10 options for split keyboards in the Market. They praised Apple's split keyboard, but they don't give users the options of switching to whatever keyboard you want. DUMB!
Also, I understand the criticism for the camera quality, but I don't really think it's fair. It's 1.2MP camera is on-par with the high-end devices out there. I would understand it if they complained about the lack of rear camera, but criticizing the quality of the front one is just not valid to me as their pedestal (new iPad) is much inferior in resolution.
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Pretty fair review. My only gripes was the criticism regarding the split keyboard. Uhhh, we have about 10 options for split keyboards in the Market. They praised Apple's split keyboard, but they don't give users the options of switching to whatever keyboard you want. DUMB!
Also, I understand the criticism for the camera quality, but I don't really think it's fair. It's 1.2MP camera is on-par with the high-end devices out there. I would understand it if they complained about the lack of rear camera, but criticizing the quality of the front one is just not valid to me as their pedestal (new iPad) is much inferior in resolution.
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actually the image definitely was way worse on skype than the ipad's, i wonder how much of that has to do with skype app. I know in the past the mlb at bat app video streaming was awful, but this years it's been just as nice as the iphone i think....
The kindle fire screen will ghost on max brightness. I think it is an IPS thing.
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Thanks for linking to this review.
The write-up seems fair to me. Yes, her overall judgement is not as glowing as most earlier reviewers'.
I take it as a compliment that she spent so much time comparing it to the newest iPad. She also trumpeted the Nexus 7's lower cost and stated it performs similarly to the iPad 2. That's not shabby.
I can't wait to receive mine. Ordered on June 30.
That's the best review for the Nexus 7 I've read so far. I like the comparison to the iPad.
A caved in and read the review (i made sure my advert blocker was on, as they don't deserve a y money from me). All the predictable gripes that are fine for an ipad costing over twice the price, and they video chat to an ipad and when I the picture quality wasn't upto scratch, blamed the nexus (despite camera pics being fine). It's likely it was actually the ipad decoding it poorly, because it wasn't native and proprietary apple quicktime
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Well, as soon as I purchased my Nexus 7 tab and received it I thought to my self for 199$ I just robbed Google for this high spec tech giant of a tablet, packing a 1280x800 HD display, Tegra 3 CPU, 12 core GPU, 1 GB of RAM, NFC, GPS and Jelly Bean! WOW! and the list goes on and on and I thought I just couldn't complain even if I tried to. The first thing I wanted to do was to test it out with some apps and ROMs and kernel's and then the second thing was to hop on XDA Nexus 7 general thread to see if I missed any cons after my tests with the device and boy was there a lot of unhappy people with a lot of issues. So, I checked my device for dead pixels, screen lift, blown speakers and screen flicker...I thank GOD that I didn't have any of the issues stated, but I asked myself after seeing all of these people returning, upset, and bashing Asus and Google for quality issues, I thought to myself, if this had happened to me would I be among the bashing group? After a deep breath and thinking after all this is a 199$ premium spec tablet and with specs like this given for a price like 199$ and issues I've seen hardly even looked like a issue, hell! I wouldn't mind buying another for the bathroom as a electronic newspaper when I'm taking a LMAO! So guys, at a price like this for Nexus high spec like this I would have still purchased it even if it didn't have a chassis!
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Please post pictures of you defective Nexus 7's THANKS!
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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QFT.
Normally I would agree with the expectation that a $199 tablet would feel like a toy, but that was until I owned a Kindle Fire. That thing is built like a tank for the same $199, and its build quality I think is something I've never seen a complaint about despite the low price. So after owning a Fire, I would say I did expect the same sort of solid build quality at $199 out of the Nexus 7. Packing in high end internal hardware is no excuse to cheap out and have exterior bits and pieces failing, screens not calibrated well, etc etc. IMO for the sake of the manufacturer's reputation, either do it right or don't do it at all.
Whoever built the Kindle Fire is who Google should contract for the next Nexus tablet...
Google made this with the intent on gaining market share. I'm sure they make little to no money on the tablet itself. It all come from the Play Store.
That being said, I would still expect Google and Asus to put out a quality product, regardless of price. Now, I thankfully haven't had any issues, but if I did, I would still be upset. $200 is still a good chunk of change.
I cannot imagine that these two companies are happy that they have released a product with so many defects. Thankfully it seems that that they are handling the issues quickly and being helpful. Too bad they don't get any credit for that.
All said, I am very happy with my purchase, and feel better knowing if an issue does arise, I will be taken care of.
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
I know of 7 Nexus7's with friends and family and all of them are perfect to our specifications. My mothers has a small amount of screen lift, but she will never notice it, and it has no effect on daily use. I'm also pretty sure that before the internet age, there wouldn't be this sheep mentality into RMAing units... Those people wouldn't have even noticed these things.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
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Apple shills, I love it! I'm totally prepared to believe this as a fervent Apple-hater. Is there an evidence? I so want there to be!
I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
I guess it sounds strange around here, but yes. I do expect to buy a quality product. And I believe some people have gotten quality Nexus 7, so it's not like we are expecting the impossible.
Just waiting for ASUS to consistently reproduce that quality.
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I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
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Nice! I thought I was the only one.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I bought one of these because it was the first Google tablet and it has pure, unadulterated Jelly Bean. With a Nexus device, you don't need to worry about app compatibility or updates. Your tablet is the only officially supported Android tablet.
Tell me what other, more luxuriant tablet has this much to offer in terms of software and compatibility. Then you can criticize me for being cheap.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
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Google CSRs have been telling customers that any screen lifting at all should be exchanged. We've been infiltrating the intern placement program in Cupertino for months, and when they corralled us into answering phones our preparations were complete.
Steve has a moustache. I repeat, Steve has a long moustache.
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I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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While i do expect to get a quality product with anything I buy, I couldn't agree more in terms of the over the top OCD. When I first opened my N7 from its packaging my first thought I had was WOW! I honestly thought the silver bezel was metal simply because the build quality felt so good. We all know the under the hood specs are top notch and it came sporting Jelly Bean. Do some units have a few early launch manufacturing flaws? Sure but that's usually the case with most new devices. So for $199/$249 I think ASUS and Google hit the nail on the head. Im 100% happy with my purchase.
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Well, I don't know about other countries but when the tablet gets to Sweden they are gonna lose very much cash if they don't fix these problems as the laws are very good for customers. For example, if having to return the same product twice/2 repairs without any difference you can claim your money back.
Expecting a perfect device or not it should be working as it is stated to do. I would not accept a device with the screen moving around when touching it for example, that is not how it is supposed to be.
What a silly question.
I expect to get quality on any device I purchase...especially a Nexus device.
That said, I have a tiny smidgen of screen lift, so minute that I had to really look for it to see it. I do not care.
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4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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See my response in that thread. It's a real issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30614118
I'd like to thank Mungulz, but I'm out of thanks for the day, so a "high-five" will have to do.
^5 Mungulz
I, too, had screen lift, and was able to repair it, myself. I also had a noticeable creak I was able to MacGuyver away with little effort.
I must say this is one hell of a device for two-hundred bucks, but if my homegrown fix hadn't worked on the screen lift, I would have surely RMA'd it after a couple of months (as others have done/are doing).
Had I had screen lift to the point where it cracked, I would have been quite (righteously) sore at Google/Asus, but would have definitely not taken things to the extremes I've seen on these forums.
Yes we did expect a quality product. And we got one.
Everyone has issues in their initial roll out, and Google seems to have corrected the issues in their next batch. So if you have a defective device, hold onto it for a little bit. Once the next batch reaches wide circulation, call Google and get a replacement. Problem solved.
Hi all,
I am a big Android fan. I currently have a new Note 2 that I replaced my iPhone 5 and iPad mini with (had an S3 and Tab 2 before that). I bought this in the hopes of using the "phablet" as an all-in-one device instead of having both a tablet and a phone. So far its been awesome. Here is my dilemma....
I have just become an avid e-book reader. I gave up paper books when I got the iPad mini. I am finding that the Note 2 is just a little too small to read e-books on. Plus I feel kind of stupid trying to read a book on a phone.
I went out and bought a basic kindle. A button was broken out of the box, and my house doesn't have good enough lighting to see the screen well, so I exchanged it for a kindle paperwhite. I love the paperwhite, and it is insanely easy to read on, especially at night, but I am a little miffed that I spent $120 on something that does one task only, and berates me with advertisements. For $80 more I could have a N7.
That being said, I bought an N7 when it first came out, and wasn't too impressed. The device itself is awesome, but I noticed I kept going back to my laptop to get any real work done. I only used it to check emails occasionally or watch netflix in bed. It was too small to read PDFs on for class, or do any intense internet browsing/research. Essentially it was a $200 toy, so I got rid of it. I thought it was stupid to have a smartphone, tiny tablet, and macbook air. Now I am seriously considering getting rid of the paperwhite and picking up an N7 instead.
Budget is a real issue here, as I am a student. I have read on here and other forums that people felt having a note 2 and N7 was pointless as the devices are pretty redundant, and the difference in screen size is negligible. Does anyone here have both? If so, how do you feel you use the two devices? Do you regret purchasing them together?
Also, how much bigger is the N7's actual, usable screen space? With the nav buttons at the bottom and the status bar at the top, they seem to take up a pretty big chunk of an already small tablet screen.
Mainly though, how is the N7 as an e-reader? No one can seem to agree on whether or not there is an eyestrain problem with LCDs and whether they cause insomnia when compared to e-ink, so its hard to really make that determination. Is it really worth the extra $80 to get the N7 over the kindle paperwhite, or would I be wasting money as the size is essentially the same as my note 2?
I have a Kindle Keyboard I bought in mid-2011. The main things I hated about it were A) no backlit screen making reading in the dark with a little booklight a chore, 2) inability to display photos and pics in books (some drawings display, but often too small to be useful). I did like the long battery life and the anti-glare screen, but eventually I wanted something that did more. I mostly got the N7 for books and magazine reading, but being able to play games and fly my drone with it are a major bonus. I would never waste money on a dedicated reader again. I gave the Kindle to my mom since she's easily overwhelmed by anything with multiple uses.
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I have a Kindle Keyboard I bought in mid-2011. The main things I hated about it were A) no backlit screen making reading in the dark with a little booklight a chore, 2) inability to display photos and pics in books (some drawings display, but often too small to be useful). I did like the long battery life and the anti-glare screen, but eventually I wanted something that did more. I mostly got the N7 for books and magazine reading, but being able to play games and fly my drone with it are a major bonus. I would never waste money on a dedicated reader again. I gave the Kindle to my mom since she's easily overwhelmed by anything with multiple uses.
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I agree that the kindles without a built in light are very difficult to read on. The paperwhite is an entirely different beast though. My main problem with it is that I don't want ads when I paid a $120 for a product, yet Amazon has managed to really squeeze every last little inch of the screen with ads, which is extremely frustrating. I am just hesitant to drop $80 more on a device that may not be as good for reading on, and is not that much bigger than my Note 2. Do you happen to know what the usable screen size is on the N7?
I read a lot on my seven. I like it. Easy to read on... I like it although it don't mind reading on my s3,either with the aldiko app. It's a solid device, but rasping outside or stain the Beach or whatever is easiest on the reading devices.
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As far as reading goes, the usable screen of the N7 is larger than that of a page in the average paperback book. At night I like to use white text on a black screen because it is easier to read in the dark and causes less eye strain. I don't think the Kindle offers that option.
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As far as reading goes, the usable screen of the N7 is larger than that of a page in the average paperback book. At night I like to use white text on a black screen because it is easier to read in the dark and causes less eye strain. I don't think the Kindle offers that option.
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Do you think it would be redundant with a Note 2? The Kindle is technically only .5 inches bigger than the Note 2, but the square screen makes it easier to read than a 16:9 aspect ratio where you are constantly moving your eyes vertically.
Nexus 7 for sure. You have more options and more media
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Do you think it would be redundant with a Note 2? The Kindle is technically only .5 inches bigger than the Note 2, but the square screen makes it easier to read than a 16:9 aspect ratio where you are constantly moving your eyes vertically.
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I don't read with the N7 horizontally, only vertically, because I wear progressive lenses and a wide screen makes me have to turn my head from side to side or my eyes will move beyond the reading portion of my glasses. The Note 2 is only 5.5", so I'm not sure why you're comparing the N7 to it. The only advantage I can see is that the Note is also a phone, but my N7 does not require a separate data plan and I can easily tether it to my S2 by turning it on as a wifi hotspot. I forgot to mention that white text on black also uses less battery on the N7.
If you're wanting something that can do more but don't wanna spend $200 for a nexus 7,get a nook color and put cm10 on it. My wife asked for a simple ereader for christmas and I instead got her a nc and put cm on it and she loves it. Granted it won't give you the same level of performance the n7 will, but it is a great ereader and has a screen designed to reduce eyestrain. Advantages of cm? Simple 1 bookstore vs all bookstores, and you can rent books through amazons library system on it and overdrive.
Hardware is a bit dated for extreme web browsing and high definition media but if you just want an ereader with a little more punch than a simple e ink one, a cm powered nook color is perfect! I got hers refurbished for $100 off overstock.com.
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Well if your leaning towards the nexus 7, and only going to do reading and simple stuff. It might be worth it look around craigslist for a eight gig model.
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If you want to read books mainly on your device, get a kindle, any kindle. Because reading on a tablet (or a pc) ruins your eyes, that is a fact.
So you need to decide your purpose about buying the device you'll buy. If it's for book then get a kindle or nook. If it's for apps and little amount of reading get Nexus.
I hope you don't ignore my warning about eyes, any screen other than e-ink ruins eyes, you'll end up with glasses before you're old.
Another option. You can pickup a refurb NookColor for $140 or less.
Its an old platform, for sure, but its still getting Dev support on XDA. I am currently running 4.1.2 on my 2yo NC. Build quality is outstanding.
This is a very versatile device. You can run dual boot from a SD card, you can Manual Nooter (run stock & android from internal ) or you can just run a custom ROM from internal. If you're lazy, you can buy an SD card already programmed for you.
And it accepts an SD card up to 32gb. Plus you have the option of OTG storage for movies.
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If you want to read books mainly on your device, get a kindle, any kindle. Because reading on a tablet (or a pc) ruins your eyes, that is a fact.
So you need to decide your purpose about buying the device you'll buy. If it's for book then get a kindle or nook. If it's for apps and little amount of reading get Nexus.
I hope you don't ignore my warning about eyes, any screen other than e-ink ruins eyes, you'll end up with glasses before you're old.
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Actually
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22762257
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I'm using my N7 to read books and it is in no way straining my eyes (I could tell if it did, my eyes are very sensitive to brightness, too much of it and they physically hurt).
Cool Reader is the program I go with in terms of reading, and I set it to a black background and light grey letters on screen.
Granted, that makes it harder to read in sunny conditions, but when I go to work it is usually still dark, so that is not really a concern for me.
Dharkan said:
If you want to read books mainly on your device, get a kindle, any kindle. Because reading on a tablet (or a pc) ruins your eyes, that is a fact.
So you need to decide your purpose about buying the device you'll buy. If it's for book then get a kindle or nook. If it's for apps and little amount of reading get Nexus.
I hope you don't ignore my warning about eyes, any screen other than e-ink ruins eyes, you'll end up with glasses before you're old.
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Really? And by what authority do you make such a statement? Are you an optometrist? Do you have some clinical studies to back up your broad statement? What a crock.
From Brian's link above:
CONCLUSIONS:
It is not the technology itself, but rather the image quality that seems crucial for reading. Compared to the visual display units used in the previous few decades, these more recent electronic displays allow for good and comfortable reading, even for extended periods of time.
© 2012 The College of Optometrists.
Yeah I never have suffered eyestrain from my phone or tablet.
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Kindle or N7? Neither
From what it sounds like, your only real beef with the Kindle is the ads. Get yourself a Nook Touch With Glowlight. 1 - no ads. 2 - it's Android based - so if you want to root it, and do some goofy stuff with it (or just clean it up to look as nice as possible using whatever reader you want - like I did) you have that option. It's also more comfortable than the Kindles, less likely to slip out of your hands (with rubberized back). I've seen a *slight* difference between the screens, as far as contrast, but either will look perfectly fine.
As far as the eye strain is concerned. To each their own, I suppose, but I've noticed when I stopped reading on my Nook, and started reading on my N7, my eye strain did increase. After my 2 hour reading sessions are over, the N7 did make my eyes feel a little bit more worn. To be fair, it could be the font size, or spacing, or any of a number of other issues, but I tried to set the N7 to have the most comfortable sizing, just like on my Nook, but I still feel like the Nook is the better way to go between the two strictly for reading. Now my N7 is delegated to gaming, watching Netflix, and helping me with writing ideas on the go (was doing that with my phone, but the N7 is easier to mess with in that regard).
All that said, I *LOVE* my N7, and am always finding new fun uses for it, and will continue to enjoy it until it stops getting updates from Google (prime reason I GOT the Nexus instead of another tablet), nor would I ever give up my Nook, unless it's to get a better e-ink reader.
There's one other PHENOMENAL reason to have an e-ink reader... my Nook 7 has about an 8 hour battery - ish... my Nook - I only have to charge it every few weeks, and even then, it's just because I don't like fully discharging Lithium Ion batteries... I do believe the eink displays are fully capable of 2 month battery life.
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I agree that the kindles without a built in light are very difficult to read on. The paperwhite is an entirely different beast though. My main problem with it is that I don't want ads when I paid a $120 for a product, yet Amazon has managed to really squeeze every last little inch of the screen with ads, which is extremely frustrating. I am just hesitant to drop $80 more on a device that may not be as good for reading on, and is not that much bigger than my Note 2. Do you happen to know what the usable screen size is on the N7?
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I got both the paper white and Nexus 7. I prefer reading on paperwhite.
As for the add you can pay $20 the difference between the add free and add paperwhite to get ride of ads
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I've read lots of books on the Kindle Paperwhite, the Nexus 7 and the LG Nitro HD. All have strengths and weaknesses depending on the reading conditions.
The Kindle Paperwhite is outstanding in the daytime both outside and inside. It can be jailbroken and alternate fonts can be added. I like Chinacat and Koorkin Pro fonts (and yes, I purchased a license to the latter). They both have a smooth line texture. I don't like the LED color. It is too blue. Amazon should use warmer color LEDs which cost only a few more pennies. Additionally, the lux distribution is not uniform like a backlit LCD. Hopefully Amazon will obtain newer better light pipe/films on future models.
The Nexus 7 is good at night with white or gray characters on a black background. I don't really like the black letters or the sepia setting. The letters don't seem very sharp... Lots of jaggies... However, for browsing online articles it is great.
The LG Nitro HD is superb indoors in low light or at night. The color scheme is precise and accurate. The fonts are pristine - maybe the 326ppi is the reason. I wish LG would release a 7 inch tablet with a similar quality IPS display. I don't care about looking geeky. I wish I was ignorant so that I could experience sustained bliss.
I must be getting old because I'm about to say - I've been reading on computer monitors for 30 years without any eye strain or vision deterioration. My vision is 20/15 in both eyes. All of these devices are excellent. I read with all of them.
In other words, you can't go wrong with any of these devices...
Tl;dr - N7 is a good buy if you want to do more than read books. If you want to continue using your note 2 for that, just use the paperwhite. ALSO. Make sure you go and play around with the N7 in store for a while before deciding. That might change your mind.
Oh snap. I was about to post this exact topic 2 days ago. I caved and ended up getting a n7 last night. It's just better in my opinion and a few reasons I decided on it. I am an avid reader. I tend to read light novels, manga, novels, textbooks etc. I was all for the paperwhite, but it doesn't seem to handle pdfs all that well and it also can't run the kindle edition of one of my books which is a print replica. So that pretty much threw me towards the n7. The eink display and battery life was really what had me going for the paperwhite, but I charge my devices once a day anyway and if it can last me the day then it's fine. The main purpose of the n7 I bought for myself is to read textbooks in class as well as using it at home instead of my phone. Even though I have a galaxy note, the difference in the screen size is very noticeable. I would recommend the eink reader if you really want something that lasts for 80 hours, want a screen that can be read in any lighting, and do not want to do anything besides reading.
Budget is a real issue here, as I am a student. I have read on here and other forums that people felt having a note 2 and N7 was pointless as the devices are pretty redundant, and the difference in screen size is negligible. Does anyone here have both? If so, how do you feel you use the two devices? Do you regret purchasing them together?
Also, how much bigger is the N7's actual, usable screen space? With the nav buttons at the bottom and the status bar at the top, they seem to take up a pretty big chunk of an already small tablet screen.
Mainly though, how is the N7 as an e-reader? No one can seem to agree on whether or not there is an eyestrain problem with LCDs and whether they cause insomnia when compared to e-ink, so its hard to really make that determination. Is it really worth the extra $80 to get the N7 over the kindle paperwhite, or would I be wasting money as the size is essentially the same as my note 2?
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I'm also a student and bought the N7 over the paperwhite. The screen size difference is definitely NOT NEGLIGIBLE. Whoever told you that probably has not used both of them side by side. Although I feel I might switch out my galaxy note for a s3, but I might already be used to the size of the phone to downgrade the screen size. I do not regret purchasing and owning both.
I think someone said it's like 60% bigger or something like that (off the top of my head what I remember seeing in another thread). Also, if you use expanded desktop mode, you can get "hide" the nav buttons and if you're using paranoidandroid, you can use PIE which should help. I already said I use the N7 primarily as a e-reader. I use mantano reader and feedly most of the time and to reduce eye strain, I use lux auto brightness (you can also use screen filter). If you think that computer screens give you eye strain, you probably don't use f.lux on your computer. I wish there was a android version of it, but Lux auto brightness is the closest thing. Also, from the pricing that I saw, they came out to be equal so I went with the n7 (paperwhite 3g + no ads vs n7 16gb).