Windows 7 on the Touchpad? - Other TouchPad Development

Any chance of or anyone know how to put win 7 onto my touchpad? I think it would make a great candidate for it.

Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.

As tbaker wrote you -
different architecture -
Mac OS & Windows uses x86/x86-64.
Android & iOS uses ARM.
Windows 8 will be also compiled against ARM.
TouchPad is Snapdragon ARM based.
Another thing to keep in mind is how much source is available.
Android is Open-Source from ground so usually once drivers are being written you can get it up & running to some extent.
Not the same with other platforms (Eg. W7 & iOS on Android devices)

tbaker077 said:
Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.
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I bet that would run like a dead dog.

piiman said:
I bet that would run like a dead dog.
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I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing

SynGamer said:
I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229307

W7 would run like absolute garbage on it most likely.

Windows 7 isn't ARM compliant but Windows 7 Compact Embeded is.

oups no it's not.

Sorry, i reboot my brain :
- Windows Embedded Compact 7 can run on ARM, MIPS, x86
- Windows Embedded Standard 7 can run on x86 / x64 only.
- Windows Phone 7 can be an another option to run Windows on HP touchpad...
(WCE 7 legal demo : Low-risk business model
• Download a 180-day trial edition
of Windows Embedded Compact 7
• Create product demos and build real
proof-of-concept devices to show to
customers and only pay for licenses
when you ship)

I know dos-box already exists, you could probably do qemu under chrooted ubuntu... Windows 7 would probably work, you'd be on the VERY low side of usable ram (~700mb), and I can guarantee it would be so slow that it isn't worth using. A stripped version of XP... might be worth looking into.

Like that :
google "Microsoft shows off Windows Embedded Compact 7 (Windows CE 7) tablet with Metro-Like UI"

Interesting what will it take to get Windows 7 Compact installed on the TP?

More work than its worth.
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I think WP7 would run well on the pad.
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I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram

Yes sure, WP7 is based on Windows CE 7.

hyperfire21 said:
I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram
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I'm sure it does.
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Windows 7 on the Touchpad - possible or not?
Hey Guys!
As far as I remember...the Touchpad first was designed to be used with Windows 7 (wasn´t it?). After a while they distinguished between the slate and the touchpad...so is it possible, to get Windows 7 working on the Touchpad?

Not in a million years.
Windows 7 won't ever be ported to the ARM architecture.
Windows 8 is possible, but highly unlikely since the ARM version won't be available through retail channels.

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[Q] Dell Inspiron Duo

Hi, My next computer will be a Dell Inspiron Duo... So i want to know if i can install Android using all drivers (better Honeycomb jejeje) and of course with dual boot, its perfect to mix a laptop with tablet
thx
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I am a little more greedy. I would like to have triple boots on the Dell Inspiron Duo.
One for Win7;
2nd one for linux;
3rd one for Android 2.2
from android-x86 dot org
Have you thought bout havein it Virutalised ?
i got:
Base OS: Windows 7 Ultmaite SP1
__ Virtual Machines
Linux Ubuntu 10.10 32x
Linux Mint 10 32x
Windows XP Pro SP3 32x
LeoHazard OS X 10.6.2
Simon_WM said:
Have you thought bout havein it Virutalised ?
i got:
Base OS: Windows 7 Ultmaite SP1
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Linux Ubuntu 10.10 32x
Linux Mint 10 32x
Windows XP Pro SP3 32x
LeoHazard OS X 10.6.2
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Had you installed these on Dell Inspiron Duo?
Is it a little bit slower to run virtual machines on this tablet PC (even it's a duo core netbook)?
The Android 2.2 still need to be installed on a separate partition/boot to become a faster touch screen tablet. feasible?
Why has this thread died? i would love to know. its my dealbreaker between getting a xoom and an inspiron duo
Simon_WM how did u install xp in inspiron duo? where did u find the sata drivers etc?
thank u.
kisaras...
he installed it on a virtual PC ( summit like VMware) and he didnt specify if he done it on a duo
has it been done yet
android on dell duo.. has it been done? is the performance better than windows? anyone with a hands on video of performance?
thinking of getting it instead of tablet.. is it worth?
I goggled some info on the duo cause I liked the way it looked n happen to like dell.. the only thing I found I dent like on it was dells "stand" it is super super slow. Utube it and you'll see. Wish it was faster and ran full android other then that I was happy with the specs n price.. Toshiba at100 or the 200 is what I think I might move to cause of dells slow movements
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Its possible
For me I have the same material (Ispiron Duo)
I M running windows8, Ubuntu 10.10 updated and I m looking to add Android
The Android I have test are 2.2 sparta (Works Fine) and the honeycomb 3.2 (Touchscreen seems to not works properly)
to do this you have to install first Windows an d after android WITHOUT Grub and after that you install UBUNTU
if Grug2 or Grub from ubuntu does not detect Android so look for the partition number for android and customise grub config manually according to thi web site
h t t p : //pundiramit.blogspot.com/2011/08/dual-booting-android-x86-and-ubuntu.html
good luck
(I m tring this at this time)
How did this go, i'm thinking about getting the duo for this reason too. I wish there was more people working on it. I really want to know how the quality is!
I know this post is a little late but I am running ICS on the Duo and it is working really well. I have the RC1 release of the 4.0 tegra port from the android-x86 project.
I am currently dual booting with the Win8 customer preview but I find that I don't go into Win 8 at all any more.
hi, I hope that someone is stil here....i've just buy this dell so I install Win 8.1 and I need/want to install android too....i've found a few things on google search, but not very useful..can someone indicate me a tutorial to follow?!
Hi,
Please post in out dedicated computer thread seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
This thread will have to be closed.

Windows or Linux?

Which do yall prefer? I would love to run Linux ubuntu on my laptop but windows runs so much faster. Any way to speed up ubuntu?
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I'm running fedora, but some of my devs are running ubuntu.. And 2 are on windows 7. Can't say that I've noticed a significant speed difference in any of the environments, and they're on the same hardware.
What in particular seems slow?
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How can linux be slower than windows?
It runs on far lower end systems but instead it suffers of incompatibility of some hardware and more bugs. I would reckon it's less secure too but because of it's unpopularity it is less attacked.
When a computer is old and slow I usually recommend installing ubuntu so that they can work with it.
Are you sure all drivers are installed correctly?
Ubuntu linux was always faster than windows 7 and xp for me. I'm using 10.10 if that matters.
I have to agree with you. I have a small HP netbook that runs fast as can be with Ubuntu. When it was running Windows I wanted to return it back to the store. That was the main reason for installing Ubuntu on it. I'm also running Ubuntu on a few desktops. Its a great OS.
e334 said:
Ubuntu linux was always faster than windows 7 and xp for me. I'm using 10.10 if that matters.
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Windows. I hate Linux with every ounce of my being from being forced to use it in several classes.
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ubuntu can be installed within windows using wubi, why not have both? you don't even need to worry about repartition yours harddrive.
Windows is best
Linux is fun. But with an atypic distribution like Archlinux, sometimes, you lose so much time to repair....
For this reason, to work, I use Windows, to geek, Linux !
You should use both.
I run windows but I have Ubuntu on a flash drive. I find that Ubuntu is more fun to mess around with and is easier to get around website blocks at school. The only reason I still use Windows is because of gaming.
always windows.
windows 7 professionel atm
Linux for everything except gaming.
Well on my Desktop I'm currently running Windows. On my phone, I'm currently running a Linux Bootloader, so that's a tough choice (HTC HD2). I think you should stay with Windows, due to the fact that its more reliable on computers in most cases. It's highly preferable to use a customized Linux Bootloader on your phone though, if it's able to read one like the HTC HD2 .
Me and my girlfriend got four PCs
My desktop running win7 32bit
My netbook with Ubuntu 11.04 It came with Win7starter
Girlfriends Laptop win7sp1 64bit
Our HTPC in the livingroom Ubuntu 11.04.
Also having an unused WinXP license, that came with my desktop.
Linux is OK for those things there are software matching the Win7
Like Firefox, Thunderbird, VLC and some more.
Would have running any Linux distro on my desktop if there where a photo and video editing software that could hold it to the ones for Windows.
Linux do piss me off more than once in while.
1. That thing with administrator rights, why? One can always re-install!
2.Why it isn't just to download and double click install files to get the program installed in Linux?
3.There are more, but not worth mentioning.
Linux is the best
bballer71418 said:
Which do yall prefer? I would love to run Linux ubuntu on my laptop but windows runs so much faster. Any way to speed up ubuntu?
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Ubuntu actually clocks faster than windows 7. I think around 5 times faster in fact.
linux, ubuntu 11
I stick to Windows more often than not, partly because of the software I use (e.g. Adobe Lightroom) and partly because I generally find that Windows has a smoother and more responsive user interface on the same hardware.
I've found this on my netbook a couple of years ago (Ubuntu Netbook Remix and straight Ububtu vs Windows XP), my work PCs (Centos vs Windows XP, and the Centos machine has more RAM) and my home PC (Fedora 14 vs Windows XP/32 and Windows 7/64). The first couple of times I did this comparison I was surprised, but I've come to see it as normal these days.
I have grown up with Windows...but with time...my hate to it growed as well...currently I am running a Linux (Pinguy 64bit) version on my new Hp laptop...which is really a well customized version of Ubuntu...it is more stable...super fast...and elegant if compared with Windows 7 64bit...moreover...Pinguy is free compated to the almost $250 Windows...that eacg time you install an update...Windows gets slower...Also note it is not the.case with Pinguy...Keep in mind that Pinguy has all drivers bundelled with it...i needed not a single driver dowbload...even for my Scanner and Printer...All programs are totally free that you can get fro the Ubuntu Software Center bundelled with Pinguy...I advice you to give it a try...and I guarantee you will stick to it and have Windows in you history...Good luck everyone...and hope I helped a bit
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Windows 8

Curious to know whether there would any effort to get windows 8 (once they release the ARM preview) running on the nook color? or if anyone would be interested in this?
Midnitte said:
Curious to know whether there would any effort to get windows 8 (once they release the ARM preview) running on the nook color? or if anyone would be interested in this?
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The lack of drivers would make getting Windows 8 on the Nook incredibly difficult, if it'll even meet the minimum specs.
Indeed, but minimum specs shouldn't be a problem, they demonstrated it running on a single core 1 ghz with 1gb of memory.
Midnitte said:
Indeed, but minimum specs shouldn't be a problem, they demonstrated it running on a single core 1 ghz with 1gb of memory.
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1ghz arm or 1ghz atom/x86?
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The preview version is only available for x86 and x64 right now. We would need an ARM preview build. I don't know that we'll see that as the ARM version will probably be OEM only (my guess).
I wonder if this would be worth the effort. The ARM tablets are likely to be priced below the iPad which makes them pretty affordable. Also, doesn't Windows 8 require DirectX 11 support?
The previews I saw had them running on AMD fusion processors running DirectX 11 with 2 GB of RAM. Don't know if it's required or not though.
Windows Developer Preview works great on the same hardware that powers Windows Vista and Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
Taking advantage of touch input requires a screen that supports multi-touch
Plan to support ARM in the future but not on the Dev Edition.
Check here for Windows 8 running on ARM
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/14/windows-8-arm-tablets-reference-designs-nvidia-qualcomm-ti-shown/
So hopefully they release an arm version of the peview soon, specially since the arm version requires different apps, no?
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Forget Windows 8 on the Nook Color, it would be too slow anyway. What we need are
1) New Market fixed for CM7!
2) Ice Cream! Since Honeycomb is not going to go to AOSP this side of he-ell.
Homer
Homer_S_xda said:
Forget Windows 8 on the Nook Color, it would be too slow anyway. What we need are
1) New Market fixed for CM7!
2) Ice Cream! Since Honeycomb is not going to go to AOSP this side of he-ell.
Homer
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You hit the nail on the head. Even if we got it on the nook, windows tablet version will be hundreds of megabytes in size just for the rom. IF it did run, highly unlikely considering it will need a whole new set of video, sound and touchscreen driver modifications...the software size alone would choke up the nook. Speed would just not be usable for real world applications.
Why? To run MS Office on Nook Color natively? If yes, then we may all to upgrade our SSD to 64G or more. The existing Developer Preview Edition Bare System eats 10G storage space, not counting additional storage to keep all installed drivers or program libraries.
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Why? To run MS Office on Nook Color natively? If yes, then we may all to upgrade our SSD to 64G or more. The existing Developer Preview Edition Bare System eats 10G storage space, not counting additional storage to keep all installed drivers or program libraries.
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The ARM version is not included in the dev preview and will most likely be much smaller. That being said I still doubt Windows 8 would be a good experience.
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koopakid08 said:
The ARM version is not included in the dev preview and will most likely be much smaller. That being said I still doubt Windows 8 would be a good experience.
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Yes. totally agree with you. But very doubt if existing Win32 applications could be transform to ARM version natively? Or Nokia are going to launch any new toys for Windows mobile soon?
Windows 8 for ARM was demoed back in June for Qualcomm's Snapdragon 3 MSM8060 dev tablet, you can have a look in my blog, the post abound Windows 8 on HP Touchpad. It's not flawless, but not a slouch either. Windows 8 in June was certainly less optimized for ARM than now, that's for sure.
However, as I see it, in 2012 some streamlined/trimmed version of Windows Phone 8 might be available for OMAP3xxx devices (about 5 mln of them, NC included). I wouldn't put much faith in hardware rendering on NC before Jelly Beans, so we'll see.
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very doubt if existing Win32 applications could be transform to ARM version natively
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I believe Microsoft issued a statement to that effect.
I'm running Windows 8 on my nook right now inside a xen hypervisor... It performs okay but sometimes lags when I'm trying to do 3D modeling with Maya. I'd love to share my ROM with you but I don't condone piracy and won't want to violate any NDAs
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I'm running Windows 8 on my nook right now inside a xen hypervisor... It performs okay but sometimes lags when I'm trying to do 3D modeling with Maya. I'd love to share my ROM with you but I don't condone piracy and won't want to violate any NDAs
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At least you could post some screenshots?
Something like windows experience index screen etc..
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gyrfalcon said:
I'm running Windows 8 on my nook right now inside a xen hypervisor... It performs okay but sometimes lags when I'm trying to do 3D modeling with Maya. I'd love to share my ROM with you but I don't condone piracy and won't want to violate any NDAs
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hi gyrfalcon, can you pm me, I really wish to run windows 8 on nook. Please guide me on how to install it.

[Q] Windows 8 on Dell Streak 7

Has anyone figured out how to get windows 8 on the Dell Streak 7. This owuld be interesting. Can someone try to see if its possible.
You cant, period.
Win8/ARM isnt even available yet
Win8 needs a UEFI bootloader(?)
No drivers
I'm going to take a look at it, but most likely it won't happen.
For get about windows on the streak 7.... It would make more sense to have full ubuntu on this tablet...
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For get about windows on the streak 7.... It would make more sense to have full ubuntu on this tablet...
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agreed...
Thorough there is no Arm version of windows 8 at this moment it will have one mobile version, microsoft work on it ( for getting inside mobile market )
concerning Drivers , like other windows version , drivers are inside because it supporte tegra 3 , so tegra 2 also ( i suppose that , no source)
So yes I think you can .
Question is : How to put it on.
But i join precedent post , i prefer have android 3.2 ( and i would want test 4 if i find tutorial to do it ,thanks if you mp me links ) wich is designed for this wonderful tab ( yes i love it ! but damned I hate the browser installed, and stil no chrome available ...sigh )
I m french man so ... sorry for my poor , bad , ugly english . ( don't report me i do my best ! )
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If you are that desperate for windows on the dell streak 7 look into windows embedded or windows compact embedded (more than likely the one you want) then theme it to look and work like win8 although you will have all kinds of problems with it initially but hey at least its progress... also win8 (yes the RT variant too I believe) is locked to utilise the touch screen features on display ratio's greater than 1366x768 although that could probably be changed with registry patches, so unless you could get it on the streak 7 with native OTG support then you may have some luck if you manage to port the RT variant to the streak in the first place...
TLDR: probably a fair bit of work pulling it from an RT device first then even more pushing it to another
Windows 8 RT (ARM VERSION) will be coming out soon, on the Surface Tab. I'm sure a port of it is going to be possible, maybe not for this device but for other Android devices in the near future.
Hopefully someone will dedicate their time to porting Windows 8 RT onto this device.
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Windows 8 RT (ARM VERSION) will be coming out soon, on the Surface Tab. I'm sure a port of it is going to be possible, maybe not for this device but for other Android devices in the near future.
Hopefully someone will dedicate their time to porting Windows 8 RT onto this device.
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the same was said about WP7, never saw it on any device that was released without it already
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the same was said about WP7, never saw it on any device that was released without it already
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But it has worked the other way around. In which you were able to install Android on a Windows phone
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But it has worked the other way around. In which you were able to install Android on a Windows phone
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that may be the case, but not valid for this argument as nobody has ported wp7 to a device which it wasnt natively designed for.. windows is closed source for the most part, android is open source apart from the odd drivers (majority of OEMs withholding some/most information and/or kernel source) may as well make use of win8 embedded seeing as it is now out
Win8 RT won't be available as a separate system. It will only run on the devices where it is preinstalled by manufacturer. The chance you can run it on another device is pretty close to zero.
But the strongest point - why would anyone want it? A system which is heavilly locked, has no apps, no options to customize, almost no support from developers and apparently no future.
I would appreciate if I could run Ubuntu on my Dell Streak 7. That would turn it into a next generation device with the ability to use all desktop Linux applications.
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Win8 RT won't be available as a separate system. It will only run on the devices where it is preinstalled by manufacturer. The chance you can run it on another device is pretty close to zero.
But the strongest point - why would anyone want it? A system which is heavilly locked, has no apps, no options to customize, almost no support from developers and apparently no future.
I would appreciate if I could run Ubuntu on my Dell Streak 7. That would turn it into a next generation device with the ability to use all desktop Linux applications.
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win8 embedded has ARM support for the teg' series, you may wanna do some R&D before jumping the gun
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win8 embedded has ARM support for the teg' series, you may wanna do some R&D before jumping the gun
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I know that, but what does it have in common with my post? The chipset is not the only HW on a PC/tablet.
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I know that, but what does it have in common with my post? The chipset is not the only HW on a PC/tablet.
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RT and embedded are completely different, RT wont be run on "custom class" devices while embedded will, that is why you wont see slot machines running anything apart from windows embedded..... which of course you can run unsigned drivers on (extra win factor) so that pesky luna driver wont be an issue if someone decompiles and converts to win
A idea I had to getting win8 running was to install backtrack5 and then run win8 on a VM through vituralbox inside BT5. Only things stopping me at the moment from testing it is getting the mount points swapped around for the system and SD card; because BT5 the VirtualBox and win8 would all need about 17-18GB of room total. As soon as I get them swapped and everything installed I'll give it a try and report back.
I havnt had a chance to check the device manager on a Surface RT, but likely the largest hurdles for win8 on any arm device:
Bootloader: The Surface RT (and likely all windows RT devices) uses UEFI, and all android tablets do not.
Windows RT is essentially Win8core/arm with things removed vs the x86 and x64 versions.
I would expect that it takes advantage of UEFI services during bootup, and we would essentially need a uefi bootloader ported to the S7.
Ram: Win8 doesnt like 512mb ram, arm or not. If we could hypothetically boot it, it would likely not run well.
Display: The S7 has a 800x480 display, which means that all "metro" apps will not run, and as winRT currently has no third party apps, it would be completely crippled.
Drivers: I didnt get a chance to poke around winRT's device manager, but some components may already have drivers.
I would expect that it's like win8/x86 and win8/x64 in that it just needs a working driver and it does not need to be tailored to the specific device.
(for example: if you have the win8/arm driver for a broadcom BCM4330 wifi card, it will work for all winRT devices that use it)
If we hypothecially were able to install winRT, we would likely have no touchscreen drivers and battery drivers.
Also the tegra2 likely wouldnt have platform drivers while the tegra3 does.
Even if you were able to write your own drivers, winRT might require drivers to be signed and there might be no way to disable signature verification on winRT.
I expect that windows update can deliver driver updates in the same way as win8/x86/x64.
WinRT is essentially a "desktop os" and not a "mobile os," you can even repartition a surface RT from within windows like you would expect on win8/x86/x64
On android you could use repartition a live device, but it's simply not designed for it.
Just because it's install media isnt available means very little to us, this is true for wp7 and somewhat true for android.
Granted: if we could run winRT, i'd definitely use it (even if it was crippled by the lack of "metro" apps). Not all of us want desktop linux and would rather stop using the device if we were forced to choose.
looks like win8 embedded is the next best thing if anyone is really that desperate for win8... even then its an issue of drivers
I think it would be better and easier to get ubuntu native on the streak if you want a desktop environment.
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Windows 8 on Nexus 7(possible?)

First of all my english is not good and there are alot of threads which contains the same question.
But I wondered if Windows 8 could be installed on the Nexus 7. We all know Windows 8 requirs UEFI the rest should work fine if the Nexus 7 would have UEFI. However I just thought about it and I just got the idea to emulate UEFI. Of course It's not easy because Windows 8 runs only on signed UEFI.
I found this project some days ago: hackintosh ...(Cann't post a link)
Of course I knew hackintosh before,but never notices that they use an EFI emulation. As far I know UEFI is different,but I'm sure It's also possible to write an UEFI emulation for the Nexus 7.
Why would you get a Nexus 7 to run Windows 8?
Why on earth would you want to run Windows 8...
You know Windows 8 doesn't run Windows apps right???
CrazyPeter said:
Why on earth would you want to run Windows 8...
You know Windows 8 doesn't run Windows apps right???
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Windows 8 RT doesn't run x86 excuteables that's true,but all .net assemblys and java stuff(requirs arm java version) are still supported and most x86 stuff is open source so you can just recompile it. So this shouldn't be the problem. I just figured out that Virtual Box and VmWare support Windows 8.
Why?!
Why?! god why?
I don't understand... Just buy a 'Surface' or something.
Windows 8 is a inferior product for mobile devices.
muldy said:
Why?!
Why?! god why?
I don't understand... Just buy a 'Surface' or something.
Windows 8 is a inferior product for mobile devices.
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So your opinion is Android is better? Did you ever tested Windows 8 on a tablet? It's quite good and offers good performance. Sure Metro isn't that good,but It's better then Android. And a surface costs almost twice as much as a nexus 7.
Sure Metro isn't that good
Why do you have a Nexus 7 then? if windows... so great?
Guys....4 irrelevant replies....
Leave the emotions aside; nexus is packed with hardware and there's no $200 win8 tablet in the market...simple.
(assuming it can be done, that is)
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Guys....4 irrelevant replies....
Leave the emotions aside; nexus is packed with hardware and there's no $200 win8 tablet in the market...simple.
(assuming it can be done, that is)
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It's still a dumb question. If someone had done it they would have plastered it all over XDA and the internet by now.
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I just figured out that Virtual Box and VmWare support Windows 8.
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Ah, I see a formula:
1. Get a Nexus 7
(optional - upgrade to Android 4.2.x)
2. Exchange the native Android for a Windows 8
3. Install an OS emulator on Win8
4. Boot Linux/MacOS/whatever from within the emulator
5. ???
6. PROFIT
I don't think it's a DUMB question OP, but it may be naive .. but that's okay, that's why (s)he's asking.
Win 8 RT will likely never run on non-directly-supported hardware ... it'll likely be a controlled distribution similar to how iOS is controlled, but with a slightly wider hardware manufacturing base (at least in the near term).
To get it to run on non-MS supported hardware will require someone with a driver development kit for Win 8 RT and knowledge to that level, in order to provide the system with the necessary support for the hardware in the Nexus 7 ... just because the CPU is binary compatible doesn't mean the rest of the hardware is compatible.
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I don't think it's a DUMB question OP, but it may be naive .. but that's okay, that's why (s)he's asking.
Win 8 RT will likely never run on non-directly-supported hardware ... it'll likely be a controlled distribution similar to how iOS is controlled, but with a slightly wider hardware manufacturing base (at least in the near term).
To get it to run on non-MS supported hardware will require someone with a driver development kit for Win 8 RT and knowledge to that level, in order to provide the system with the necessary support for the hardware in the Nexus 7 ... just because the CPU is binary compatible doesn't mean the rest of the hardware is compatible.
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And this, my dear friends, is an exemplary reply.
Thinkabout this. If the HD2 devs were all thinking like some of you did on this thread, we'd never have:
Windows Mobile 6.5
Windows Phone 7
Android
Meego
Ubuntu
Even frickin' Windows 95
on our Leo devices. So never say never. :fingers-crossed:
Although it seems highly unlikely that the Nexus 7 could run all these OS-es...
Windows 8 RT has a secure boot process that requires security keys from Microsoft. Not that it won't probably be hacked, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Furthermore, Windows 8 is not Open Source, so actually getting it running would require a miracle.
C0derbear said:
I don't think it's a DUMB question OP, but it may be naive .. but that's okay, that's why (s)he's asking.
Win 8 RT will likely never run on non-directly-supported hardware ... it'll likely be a controlled distribution similar to how iOS is controlled, but with a slightly wider hardware manufacturing base (at least in the near term).
To get it to run on non-MS supported hardware will require someone with a driver development kit for Win 8 RT and knowledge to that level, in order to provide the system with the necessary support for the hardware in the Nexus 7 ... just because the CPU is binary compatible doesn't mean the rest of the hardware is compatible.
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backlund said:
Windows 8 RT has a secure boot process that requires security keys from Microsoft. Not that it won't probably be hacked, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Furthermore, Windows 8 is not Open Source, so actually getting it running would require a miracle.
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Mac is also hacked by Hackintosh and It's also secured. And If Windows 8 boots in a virtual machine as Virtual Box and VM Ware It should be possible to code something which emulates it. I'm very new to this bootloader and bios stuff. I just wrote some c++ applications and reversed some stuff with ida. I know It's not easy to realise this at all,but if it really runs in a virtual machine we could try to fake those virtual machines.
qxyre said:
So your opinion is Android is better? Did you ever tested Windows 8 on a tablet? It's quite good and offers good performance. Sure Metro isn't that good,but It's better then Android. And a surface costs almost twice as much as a nexus 7.
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Probably not the place to be saying windows 8 is better than android. Lol.
Whether or not it was a stupid question may be debatable, but what isn't is that it doesn't belong in here. The General forums are supposed to be for things that are relative to the device or their use that would interest ALL users. I'm sure the number of people wanting to run ANY flavor of Windows on their Nexus 7 is a small one and certainly not of interest to the average Nexus 7 owner. If it were news that someone had actually done this, then it might be General-worthy, but as a subject it should have been put in Q&A since it is, for all intent and purpose, a question looking for an answer.
Isn't the whole "can i run X on my device" one of the positive aspects of having an android?
It doesn't have to make any sense, it's just about the "we can if we want"!
However, running windows on the Nexus 7 certainly is a difficult task.
We need a mole inside Microsoft to smuggle out those juicy source files and drivers
Miami_Son said:
Whether or not it was a stupid question may be debatable, but what isn't is that it doesn't belong in here. The General forums are supposed to be for things that are relative to the device or their use that would interest ALL users. I'm sure the number of people wanting to run ANY flavor of Windows on their Nexus 7 is a small one and certainly not of interest to the average Nexus 7 owner. If it were news that someone had actually done this, then it might be General-worthy, but as a subject it should have been put in Q&A since it is, for all intent and purpose, a question looking for an answer.
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this applies to most of the posts in general, but obviously you're not calling them out. a lot of us are capable of being enthusiasts of more than one OS and not instabashing posts like this. It's lead to an interesting discussion as well.
Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
Ah, I see a formula:
1. Get a Nexus 7
(optional - upgrade to Android 4.2.x)
2. Exchange the native Android for a Windows 8
3. Install an OS emulator on Win8
4. Boot Linux/MacOS/whatever from within the emulator
5. ???
6. PROFIT
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Forget about running any kind of OS Emulator on a Nexus 7, especially not x86. Best case scenario, it won't run. Worst case? Your N7 is smoked.

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