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I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone

avniii said:
I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone
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Solid yes... What it was chalked up to be .. No. dont get Mr wrong, I love it... BUT your comparing it to a nexus 1. If you had came from a sensation, like myself, you'd understand the let downs a little better. Great phone definitely... Could it have been better, absolutely.
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I'm completely happy with Bionic. Samsung has pretty screens but much lower quality materials and design if you ask me. Samsung and Toshiba are both pretty crappy but they know if you put a beautiful screen on it people will overlook all the other areas costs were cut. people should pick a phone and try to live with their choice and enjoy the new toy. The Bionic is a hell of a phone. Quite being babies indecisive with too many choices.

I'm coming from an Original Droid and while I kind of hoped I'd be able to make it until the Prime released, that didn't happen....and I LLLOOOVVVEEE this phone! Now if only they can send an update to fix the network connectivity issues I'll be all set!

I love my bionic, no qestion's asked it works perfect. Have not had any problems with it, i will not give this phone up unless the pohone that replaces the bionic is 50x times better. Way better then my DX2. I perfer the cpu/gpu in the bionic then the nvidia cpu/gpu.
The 4g lte is great very fast. pretty sad my 4g lte is faster then my cable connection.

The only thing this phone is missing is CM7 or CM8 if it comes out.
I enjoy the BLUR but im to accustomed to my nexus one custom ROMs.
I honestly never use my 4g on my bionic only for specific times whe nits needed. I keep my data off completely throughout the day and oh man does the battery ****ing kill it hahah i love this phone so much the speaker/video camera/and all around feel of the phone is superb..truly superb. Samsung might have a nice screen and GPU or w.e but moto dominates with the actual phone feel.
This is comign from the guy who was like dreaming about getting a GS2 because thats my favorite phone but the bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion beside the led

avniii said:
bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion
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I would almost promise you that if you held them side by side, this wouldn't be your opinion any more. Now, I absolutely love my Bionic and it's the best phone I've used on Verizon(it's worth noting that I've owned nearly every Android smartphone to come to Verizon since the Droid 1) However, a coworker of mine imported a GSII some time ago and I've had ample opportunity to play with it. To me, it remains completely unrivaled by anything I've seen from another manufacturer to date. This is really just my 2 cents.
P.S.:When I say nearly every, I mean literally all but 3 =P I will continue this with the upcoming Rezound, as well. Nothing like having variety with my LTE.

I have tried out nearly every phone out there.
I had money just sitting here, so why not put it to good use.
When it coolness down to phones, I liked 2 the best.
GS2 and the Bionic
The GS2 screen was truley amaizing, but like sanding usually does, they increase there contrast. Pictures no longer feel... realalistic.
The GS2 was lighter. It in a way felt cheaper as well.
The main reason I chose the bionic was it's processor.
Prosesses utilize ram.
The OMAP4 is the only multiple-channel processor which makes ram access better.
Gingerbread doesn't support multiple cores or channels, but ice-cream sandwich will.
I didn't want a phone that would become old technology as soon as the next OS was released.
Not hating the GS2, but single thread benchmarks with a 1.5ghz is not that impressive when the OMAP4 is pretty close at 1ghz and working less than half as hard as the1.5ghz.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS (so, admittedly a few years of technology and freedom behind), but this is easily the best phone (smart or otherwise) that I've ever owned, and I had tried a Samsung Infuse 4G briefly a few months prior.
I'm a little apprehensive to see what the Nexus Prime is going to look like, but I just have to keep reminding myself how much joy this phone has brought me. There's always the possibility of something newer and shinier, but I'm increasingly glad that I pulled the trigger when I did. This phone is a beast

I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.

Coming off a Pantech Matrix,,,,anything is faster.
Only thing I have to complain about is...the locked bootloader

I've owned both the BB Storm and Storm 2, the HTC Imagio, Moto Droid, HTC D.Inc., Moto Droid X, Samsung Droid Charge, and the Moto Droid X2 before this. While I have to say the display on the Charge was nice, the 800x480 resolution is getting old fast. Hell, the OG Droid was the Android device that changed the smartphone "game" in the US when it was released, and it had a higher resolution screen. But the Charge's screen felt... fake and cartoonish. I wanted something in between the DX and the Charge.
The Bionic's screen isn't something to write home about, but the colors are good IMO, the high resolution is perfect, dual core and a gig of quality RAM, 4G LTE and excellent call quality. Out of all the phones I've owned, including flip phones, Motorola's have always been the best in signal and call quality, period. The worst was the D.Inc., even on EVRC-B it was still crappy. Plus the screen... while it was an AMOLED, it had an older Pentile matrix that makes the Bionic look fantastic.
Overall, I'm glad I waited and was able to get the Bionic. People have too high of an expectation when it comes to smartphones. As long as it does what you want, be happy with it. The Bionic does all of that, plus much more and this is by far the best device I've owned.
Oh... and f*ck Apple.

Mmmaannn i have high expectations for the Bionic because #1 its farking 300$ @launch. I think sgs2 was 129$?
#2: all u guys talking about ur OGdroids, I upgraded from an Omnia from 2-3 years. The only thing for me the Bionic is good for is the performance, internet speed and phone speed, and I like the screen the fact that I can clearly read in sunlight.
I'm new to Android. I only played around with it so maybe I'm not familiar with the OS. about winmo I liked was having a task bar like on your desktop where I can hold right click and actually close or minimize. And I mean actually close, when I goto open the app it loads like new. When I use task killer it tells me it killed the apps but same apps keep reapearing. And for example I would kill the browser and when I reopen the browser it opens where I left off.
Also, I played with some Samsung devices and I really like how I can change brightness, screen rotation wifi gps etc. is that like a touch wiz only thing? So apart from the OS I also need to figure the interface? Is there like a complete stock barebones gb platform I can go to? Is that just getting a nexus?
Honestly I got the phone for the specs because you can always tweak usability but you can't add ram or cpu.
Any APPS or Tweak suggestions is greatly appreciated.
Oh btw on my winmo I never had to buy apps I could dl and install cracked vers. Not that I dont want to support devs im just uuber broke (yea rite rocking a 3oo$ fone) it was a gift smarta's.
And I could load a movie on my sd card and coreplayer would play everything even HD with crz stutter bcuz phone too slow. Android I have to start converting files? Wtf? And I also had wifi tether! Wmwifitouter...
Im on the fence should I trade my phone downgrade and get some cash in my pockets or will the Bionic get better?
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Also to add on samsing phone if you hold the home button you get a list of recent apps BUT there's also a button for task manager anyway I can get this on Nothing-but-a-BLUR?
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I'm loving the bionic so far, the one thing that's really annoying me doesn't seem to be a big deal to others. I understand the increased resolution but the font is way too small. It's giving me a headache.
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harpdoc said:
I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.
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you sure hit that one on the head. i have had many phones and i like motorola phones alot. with some tweaks and stuff you can make the bionic a bad a## phone. i love the things you can do with this phone! just amazing!! zumacast is one of my favorite apps ever. despite what others say about the lapdock, i love it.

Just picked up an Atrix HD at lunchtime, intitial thoughts

Cliffs: Shut up and read it
To be 100% honest, I don't like it as much as the Atrix 2. The build quality is on par, there's just something too....i dont know...RAZR-esque about it. I had an HTC One X in between that will be given to a coworker now, I'll stick with the AHD for the time being. It feels good in the hand, doesn't seem as prone to slipping out of it like the One X does. I'm afraid i'm going to destroy that thing by dropping it.
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The car dock was included, I walked out the door for $108 with the phone and dock. It's pretty solid, but definitely a new design from older Motorola car docks. Basically, you dock the phone, then you slide the power connector into the phone, it's a 2 part method. Not a dealbreaker, but I know i'll forget to slide the power thing over and it'll just kill my battery at some point.
The camera, while better than the Atrix 2, is still not up to my standards. The HTC is still MUCH better quality, but it's not the end of the world. What good is a great camera if I drop the HTC?
The data speeds are absolutely ridiculous, I took a few speedtests with the HTC and then the AHD back to back. I managed about 15-20 down with the HOX, and 30-40 with the AHD. THAT is awesome! So much for my 5gb data cap .
The interface is nice. I quite like what Motorola has done with "Blur" or whatever they're officially calling it these days. I somehow managed to get AT&T Messages handling my text messages, that isnt going to fly with me, I prefer the stock one. I like the swipe features of the icons/widgets on the home screens, very cool even if I don't use them often.
The screen isn't as bright as the HOX outside in direct sunlight, but i'm sure it's as good or better than the GS3. Still not a deal breaker for me. Oh, I did not have auto brightness enabled when i went outside, it is now. I may edit this after I walk outside in a bit. I do feel there is a lot of wasted bezel space, but I'm not the engineer and have no clue what's shoved underneath said wasted space.
The clock/weather/data monitor widget is cool, it actively monitors the amount of data remaining! I really like that, i've used 3.53/5GB this month, thankfully the billing cycle ends on tuesday.
All in all, I'm pleased with the purchase for now. It's a change from the Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 designs, however I don't think it reduces the build quality at all. To me it feels better built than the HTC One X, and miles better than a GS3.
I am taking pic/screenshot requests and questions for the afternoon, so go nuts.
Side-note. While i was at the store, there was a guy upgrading to an iPhone 4S and had a cracked back glass. I jokingly offered him $50 for it, so now i'm the proud new owner of a $60 (including the replacement glass) iphone 4 that will either be given to the wife to replace her dying ipod touch, or it'll show up on Craigslist in a few days and pay for my AHD and a few Abita Andygators.

Smart actions just eliminated any new for tasker or locale. This thing is great!
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Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!

unbesorgt said:
Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!
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Tell me where they would be and I'll get them. Not sure why, they're ugly as can be lol.
EDIT: poked and prodded, found the default one. It's a start I guess.
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Many thanks!

Great thanks for this HD wp
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picked one up as well. haven't tested outside, but inside the screen is brighter, crisper and colors more pronounced than my One X. It is especially noticeable for me in Maps and Gmail.I also emailed one of the wallpapers to myself and displayed it on the HOX side by side with the Moto. Crisper on the Moto and colors slightly more vibrant. It is a cooler screen while the One X is warmer, but I prefer how white backgrounds appear on the MAHD. We'll see how the week goes. If the battery will last me through as work day as the HOX does, then it's a keeper as I like the on screen buttons, near-stock ICS feel, etc. Camera is definitely not as good as the One X but still decent and I think I can live with that.
Noten the picture of the wallpaper, my camera focused more on the HOX so in the pic it appears slightly more crisp than the MAHD, but in person it is not.

I have too say the ATRIX HD is pretty sweet! I love the screen and the can.. low light it isn't that great but out in daytime its really good. The screen is beautiful and I love the feel and I'm getting great battery life.. few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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tacotino said:
few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!

unbesorgt said:
What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!
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Well you start off with one screen like an iphone, well now they have two... but you add more screens as you add more apps and widgets... and as far as i know, i might be wrong but the main screen is the far left one.. like an iphone. and you can't change it at all. i hate it. also you can't use the clock widget on another launcher without root access, or at least it wouldn't work on Nova. so yeah
but other than that i really do like the phone.
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So I went to the release event Motorola had for the Atirx HD, it was really nice they had some cool stuff to show. well during the meeting the main guy said a very interesting comment, "We had to take somethings out to make it a better price." So after the demonstration i asked the rep, so what "things" did you take out?
he said with a nervousness voice, oh nothing to big, we had to reduce the 13mp cam to a 8 and drop the 16gb to an 8gb. oh and we took out NFC.
and then he said they had a new app that works with NFC but cuz att wanted a lower price phone they took it out. i guess its going to be on the new razor.. so yeah.
that really it. but other than that don't you just love the phone?

Once you set up multiple screens, can you drag the home/main screen set by default as the first screen wherever you want it?
Glad to see some reviews and even comparisons to the HOX. By all accounts the camera is inferior. How does it stack up against the GNex?
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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.

bimmerd00d said:
Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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Yup...and the development for the s3 is unbeatable, if the atrix HD had that then I would definitely switch. Oh well... I really like their UI over Samsung and HTC and the build is much better.
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bimmerd00d said:
Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?

Nickerz said:
I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?
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If only it had 13megapixels, 16GB internals, NFC, a 4.7/4.8" screen, and Webtop, it wouldn't be a question for me. I'd get that phone in a heartbeat. But sadly.. AT&T opted it to be a budget phone.. So, no go for me. Gonna get the SGS3 instead.. A shame too. I really had high hopes for the next Atrix. A little heartbroken here. /proudownerofatrix4g

Those two things - camera and battery life - are the only things holding me back from complete satisfaction, BUT...is it really worth $150 more to get a One X or SGS III?? For me, I have to reluctantly say...maybe...we'll see if I can coax more juice out of it first (before my buyer's remorse period is over). Here's a low light picture sample, since there is a lack of those available online.

Its like I'm back in the OG Atrix forum back on its launch day. So much disappointment when everyone started leaving us for the Inspire 4G. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any devs are working on the third Atrix.
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Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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BIGDADDYXXL said:
Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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The temp has been okay on mine, but I'm home over 90% of the time (telecommute for work) and I'm on WiFi. Some people say having it on 4G it gets a little warm.
I had mine freeze this morning after a phone call. Had to force a reboot (Power + Vol Down).
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Honest opinion needed about nexus 7

So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets

Return it. If you need someone else to tell you what you want you don't need it. Not trying to sound harsh but really, what ever happened to researching and buying something because you want it. You don't need a stranger to tell you that you need or want something.
If ya like it, keep it. K?
From the Note to Nexus 7

Can someone help me? I don't know which one to keep, new iPad or Etch-a-Sketch? The family (baby) use the Etch-a-Sketch more but Retina is resolutionary.

rolexconfuse said:
So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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Unless you have to have the quad core tegra 3, wait until the tab 7.7 goes on clearance. It's the same thing basically but with a better build and an older processor.
As for AMOLED. The only problem you will have is if you put it on display from opening to closing on full brightness for half a year. With normal use, there is no way it won't survive like 10 years without burn in.

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Return it. If you need someone else to tell you what you want you don't need it. Not trying to sound harsh but really, what ever happened to researching and buying something because you want it. You don't need a stranger to tell you that you need or want something.
If ya like it, keep it. K?
From the Note to Nexus 7
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I did my research on both products but both seems to have good points and bad points. To me they both seem to balance each other out. If i had oodles and oodles of money I would just buy both and then give one off to a family member but I don't have that kind of cash.
I didn't want someone to tell me which to buy, I'm asking for people's view regarding the 2 and what they think.

People come to XDA for advice. They don't need people trashing them. Granted we should do some research before asking questions herebor anywhere else like. But, is looks as though the OP did do some research. You can tell this.due to the fact that he asked about burn.in when it came to AMOLED screens. And he did not hint at looking for some one to tell him what to do. It's funny, people will take the time and possibly sound like ass hats being a jerk or the like. But it is to much for them to give some sort of opinion or a fact regarding an answer to an OP question. I seriously think some people love to to find reason to complain, ***** and just be negative. If some one is being offensive then go to gold and tear them a new one. Otherwise it is better for all if you just don't speak. Thank.you and drive through.
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I've got both and I prefer to use the N7 because of weight and portability but the 7.7 is great and definitely has the nicer screen and let's face it it isn't heavy. My N7 doesn't appear to have the common faults but I would wait for a fix to be put in place by Asus/Google before buying and the 7.7 is only going to get cheaper and better software over time. Short term if cost is a factor I'd buy a fixed N7 knowing I had a good tab.

You mentioned that you don't want to upgrade your tablet every two years. However at the pace these tablets evolve, both hardware and software, I think you really might want to.
The Nexus 7 at half the price of the Excite 7.7, sounds like it might be option if spending $500 on a tablet means you'll feel obligated to stick with it for several years.

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Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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Based on what you wrote and your desire to get advice, I would guess you're not going to be the biggest tablet user on the market. So I would recommend the Nexus 7. Save the money and if you find your are just loving tablet life, upgrade down the road...if not, or if you are still happy with the N7, then you're good to go.
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ExploreMN said:
Based on what you wrote and your desire to get advice, I would guess you're not going to be the biggest tablet user on the market. So I would recommend the Nexus 7. Save the money and if you find your are just loving tablet life, upgrade down the road...if not, or if you are still happy with the N7, then you're good to go.
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using it for movies and web surfing most of the time. And some gaming on occasion.

rolexconfuse said:
So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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depends on what you plan to use it for. for web browsing and book reading and anything involving white pages, the google nexus 7 will have longer battery life simply because when an oled is set to white, it can consume more than twice the amount of power compared to an lcd with an led backlit display. conversely, if you do a lot of things that use darker colours, ie. gaming, movies, etc. then the amoled will have better battery life.
both have tegra3, so its up to the price. for the price of the excite, i'd probably spend a bit more and buy a transformer, but thats just me.

rolexconfuse said:
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
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The burn in is due to the degradation of the organic molecules. I have had an SGS2 since August last year and it has spent most of the screen time on minimum brightness (with TW). I have noticed there has been a bit of burn in of my wallpaper where there is a sharp contrast between very dark and very light parts of the screen. So long as you stay away from large amounts of white or blues in the background then, in theory, it shouldn't be too bad (blue degrades about twice as quickly iirc). Also if it gets particularly bad you'd probably have a case under the warranty as it is a design "fault". Obviously that's only really useful with phones so if you are planning to keep the tablet more than two years, which is likely, then this may be an issue for you.
I haven't looked at the Excite so I can't offer any opinion on which I'd prefer, except to say I have the N7 and have found particularly good.

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using it for movies and web surfing most of the time. And some gaming on occasion.
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Nexus 7 is really made for this scenario. For the investment it really can't be beat.
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depends on what you plan to use it for. for web browsing and book reading and anything involving white pages, the google nexus 7 will have longer battery life simply because when an oled is set to white, it can consume more than twice the amount of power compared to an lcd with an led backlit display. conversely, if you do a lot of things that use darker colours, ie. gaming, movies, etc. then the amoled will have better battery life.
both have tegra3, so its up to the price. for the price of the excite, i'd probably spend a bit more and buy a transformer, but thats just me.
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Battery life can't really be gauged like that even though what you say isn't wrong. The tab 7.7 has the best battery life out of any tablet period and it uses an AMOLED screen. Not sure about the excite battery life though.

I did a review of the Excite 7.7, and couldn't recommend it because of what I'm guessing is the AutoBrite "feature" that Toshiba uses to conserve power. What it does basically is reduce brightness and contrast depending on what's on the screen. In the case of the Excite 7.7, whenever there's a lot of white on a page (say, a Web page), then brightness and contrast are cut way back and the screen becomes colder (i.e., more blueish) and washed out. I found it very disappointing and distracting.
Also, I didn't find the Excite 7.7 to have very good battery life. Certainly, no better than the Nexus 7, and nowhere close to what the Galaxy Tab 7.7 gets.
Here's my review, if you're interested: http://www.thetechchat.com/2012/06/25/toshiba-excite-7-7-review/

Cloud storage would help aid your need for a microsd card.
I was on the same boat as you and glad I went the 7 route.
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Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.

shadowcore said:
Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates

The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.

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The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...

brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.

I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..

i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(

greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!

i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse

Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).

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Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.

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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.

Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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[email protected] said:
Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.

Maczuga said:
In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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57 584484
This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...

Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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Other device, comparisons to other devices, and upgrading phone discussion

Please use this thread to discuss devices other than and any comparisons with other devices on or about the GS 5 in this thread and any other off-topic issues that are not needing a new thread.
Post with respect, this is a helpful community, hope we all learn from this stuff in here.

Anyone has both the M8 and S5? Or had the M8 and now the S5 _(or the other way around? Although the S5 just came out)? How do they compare? Please try to be as objective as possible Thanks!
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I have both on me to review for a while. The M8 is obviously heavier, a little taller but not quite as wide as the GS5. I prefer something compact to better use in one hand, like an iPhone, but either one isn't as bad as I thought to use with one hand (although still somewhat difficult). I'm really enjoying the GS5's design. After using the M8 for a week, it already feels a bit dated for some reason. I'm glad the GS5 doesn't use virtual navigation buttons, allowing more screen space. Those are basically my initial impressions between the two for now.

it's there any dedicated forum for galaxy gear fit? I just saw the forum of the first gen of the gear that's it
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I don't think this topic needs it's own thread so I'll post here. How fast does the S5 charge to full? I plugged mine in last night when i went to bed and it seemed like it was charging about 1% per minute or faster.

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Anyone has both the M8 and S5? Or had the M8 and now the S5 _(or the other way around? Although the S5 just came out)? How do they compare? Please try to be as objective as possible Thanks!
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My gf has the M8 and I have the S5. Only a few days now but I like them both. We both had hung onto our original Rooted and ROMed Notes before these.
Some initial impressions:
S5 is lighter so maybe a bit easier to one hand, although after the Dell Streak and Note anything seems small and easy.
M8 feels more solid due to design/weight, but that is more a perception than function thing. The all plastic Note was fine so I don't expect an issue with the S5.
Screens are comparable, both very nice; different but one isn't distinctly better than the other in real life usage.
Speaker sound is obviously won by the M8, not even close. The S5 is ok, but the M8 is designed for sound and it shows.
Performance seems great for both, although I haven't had the M8 in my hand as much.
Reception (LTE) is the same in a side by side test on my table, just using the on screen indicator. Both are better than the Note.
I actually like the on screen keys on the M8 as they are the same as my tablets, I'm getting used to the S5 home button but I haven't had a physical home button in a long time (since the iPhone 3g- ...don't judge me!).
We both ditched the Stock UI for Nova and/or Apex Launcher immediately so I have no idea how Sense and Touchwiz compare in usage other than they felt both restrictive and simplistic off the bat.
Let me know if there is anything specific you want to know and I'll check it out; but after a few days around both I'd be happy using either device.
Drew

Here my review as I've had both devices in the past couples of days.
Design m8> s5
Both phones to me look great but the design on the m8 is sexy! When I saw the s5 all I've seen where white models, which to me made the phone look horrible cause of the added width made the screen look smaller than it actually is UNTIL I got my black s5 and loved it as soon as I traded my m8 in.
Camera s5> m8
Pics on the m8 ON THE PHONE look amazing but when crop you see the flaw in the 4mp shooter. S5 camera just clearly is the better point shoot camera if you want to use your pics past social media uploads. If not then M8 should do you fine.
One hand use s5> m8
As sexy as the m8 is the back is slippery and I felt very uncomfortable one hand using the phone and the fact that the m8 is narrow and taller reaching the top of the screen was a scary thing to do as I was running the phone with no case whatsoever. Case Will solve the slippery back but with the s5 I don't feel like I need a case as the back is nice to touch and being that the phone is lighter than the m8 makes me feel I have one hand control of the phone at all time.
Speakers m8> s5
Don't really need to go into this and one of the features I miss on the m8 as I do listen to a lot of music.
Screen draw
Both are beautiful
Features s5> m8
S5 more featured packed but the features in the m8 are no slouch
Wish the s5 had the double tap to wake the phone but since it has the finger print I can see why they didn't go with that feature. Overall while some think their gimmicky the features on the s5 are fun and very useful to use when need be.
Internal memory m8> s5
More internal storage for the same price as a 16gb s5 is always gonna be better for some. NOW the SD card slot is working great for me so my Internal memory can be just for apps but those that don't like SD then note the s5 32gb will be slightly more on contract and off contract than the m8.
Battery life s5 > m8
My s5 is doing great and I love the feature with the power saving option offering a extended mode for those needs when Your at 10% and won't be near a charger for period of time.
But the m8 battery life is just as good as the s5 with my units I had.
Custom Roms m8> s5
One of the big reason xda was started for and unless u have the t-mobile variant then root and maybe a stock tw rom is all your gonna get from the s5 att model. But the experience with the new tw is very nice and I'm not seeing lag as previous galaxy phones in the past
So basically it comes down to this
Features or custom roms?
Top build quality or water resistant plastic?
4mp or 16mp camera?
Boomsound or fingerprint?
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the two flagships. Custom roms are great but some don't function and leave features that sold you into the phone from the beginning. Samsung is becoming apple which is not a bad thing. I remember when HTC was doing the locked bl and fans went nuts then they slowly changed their ways of tactics. as a phone the s5 and the m8 IS that plus some. now I'm more than happy with my s5, you may need your root and that's it which I see s5 having at some point very soon. But if u need your custom kernels and aosp roms then don't even look at the s5. Hope this helps those deciding between the two....
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Still mad at ATT gutting the chipset for the stupid LTE, but such is life. Good to see a waterproof flaship, at long last. Korea's finally starting to catch up to Japan in physical features.

GS5 Typo
Not sure if this is just on the ATT variant but I found this amusing...
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barondebxl said:
Anyone has both the M8 and S5? Or had the M8 and now the S5 _(or the other way around? Although the S5 just came out)? How do they compare? Please try to be as objective as possible Thanks!
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Coming from an Lg optimus G Pro..... got an M8 on 4/17 and started having issues with it resetting the home screens for no reason. Im sure it is probably just a rare bad unit but since it is my first HTC, I decided to return it and get an S5.
Really no reason to write several paragraphs on the comparisons as most of the comparisons done so far is what I have seen as well. To sum it up
*The HTC is elegant, cleaner interface, not as "gimmicky", looks and feels better made (although covering it in a case takes away all that beauty advantage), and has better external sound (by a lot). This not only applies to music but also to speaker phone calls. For those that are still confused about the sd card The US version DOES HAVE an SD slot on the left side opposite to the sim tray, so that argument is mute. The onscreen buttons are a pain to get used to unless you are coming from something with the same.
* The S5 takes better pics (not by a lot and you really only notice when they are side by side unless you have a photographers eye), the s5 is water and dust resistant (this is a biggie impo), i think the s5 battery is going to be a bit better, I dont see any real world difference in the screen clarity or color between the two. You will never notice any difference in speed rather in everyday apps or playing something like riptide, the s5 operates hotter and does not dissipate processor heat as well as the m8. Im worried about the charging port cover breaking on the s5. Too bad they did not get rid of the fp scanner and the hr monitor and spend the money on dual speakers.
*Photos and water resistance important = S5
*Sound and cleaner less gimmicky important = M8
"All readers should consider that every word stated here is a matter of opinion. I am not explicitly promoting either phone or brand, and only making statements of fact as they apply to my personnel observations" :angel:

Leaving samsung after 6 years
i have been with Samsung since their flip phone. and i even dealt with the stupid boot loader lock on the s4 for a year. and i recently got the galaxy s5 not even a week and i am going to exchange it for the htc one m8. I was greatly disappointed to find out that the Galaxy S5 (SUCH A POWERFUL PHONE) was locked down. It truly depressed me. and then recently i found out you can unlock the htc one m8 boot loader at their website, THAT IS AWESOME, but why cant sammy do that? its dumb. so i just wanted to let everyone that reads this know that htc CAN be unlocked. unlock crappy sammy. And to be honest i love the Galaxy S5, its powerful, fast, and amazing. but i cannot go another year without custom roms, kernels, and recoveries, thanks to my s4 being locked, i never got to learn the newest roms, kernels, or recoveries. so in exactly 4 days im leaving the locked down chamber of samsung and entering the freedom of htc

I would love to hear comparison of the battery in the LG G2 vs this phone. I am tossed up on going back to the LG since my experience with battery on this phone has been subpar.

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I would love to hear comparison of the battery in the LG G2 vs this phone. I am tossed up on going back to the LG since my experience with battery on this phone has been subpar.
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I've only used my GS5 unit for a little while, but I'm pretty sure the G2 has better battery life. (I was very impressed with it in my G2 review.)

That's what I thought too but I keep reading the s5 is better and I just don't see it.
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I guess this fits in this category. Every once and a while I'll check a new phone against a GoPro. For people that use Android apps to gather telemetry and what not on autocross / road courses, it might be of interest.

I'm still not a GS5 owner yet. No 32GB model along with the locked bootloader has really turned me off buying one (and I'm not going to pay full price for one from T-Mo, or switch carrier due to my work discount).
At this point I've got my eye on the OnePlus One when it comes out. Unlocked, running Cyanogenmod out of the box, nice. A little bigger than I'd like considering it's in the same class as the Galaxy Note 3, but it's still pretty enticing, especially for the price.
I've been a Samsung user for several years now, but I think AT&T has ruined it with their nonsense. I might just save my subsidized upgrade for something better down the road.

I am currently on the HTC m8. Having this itch to swap it for the Galaxy s5. Anyone had any regrets having done this? Anyone here preferring the HTC m8 over this?
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androidbuff123 said:
I am currently on the HTC m8. Having this itch to swap it for the Galaxy s5. Anyone had any regrets having done this? Anyone here preferring the HTC m8 over this?
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I still prefer the M8, mainly due to Sense 6. Much better user experience compared to TouchWiz IMO. I also prefer its design and rear curvature laugh a bit better.

I have the itch as well to switch to the S5 but I know I feel I will regret it.
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Time article
""The world's biggest handset maker has replaced the head of its mobile design team amid criticism of the latest Galaxy S5 smartphone.""
I would be curious how much of that criticism stems from America? How much of that I wonder is actually not because of the Samsung design at all, but more because of frustrations experienced from the 2 big carriers turning off features designed by Samsung and then adding their own junk on top of turning things off (like they know better than both the phone designer/manufacturer and the major App producers.)
Forced updates that contain more bloatware, turning off great features like wifi calling, initial loading of bloatware that most people would like to disable in favor of other free apps that do the same thing quicker, better, and with less memory load. Hmm Samsung; maybe your head of design team needed replacement, but I sure would look at other factors. Meanwhile Im back on my OGP until I can sell this S5 and jump ship myself.