Anandtech preview, troubling battery life tests - Motorola Droid Bionic

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4761/motorola-droid-bionic-preview
Check it out. Doesn't seem to bode well for motorola's baseband. Hopefully they're quick to toss out a new radio. Cell standby has easily been my largest drain in the past few days.

eallan said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4761/motorola-droid-bionic-preview
Check it out. Doesn't seem to bode well for motorola's baseband. Hopefully they're quick to toss out a new radio. Cell standby has easily been my largest drain in the past few days.
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Cell Standby is 32% of my battery draining according to the chart. that and phone idle take the top 2 positions.

sLpFhaWK said:
Cell Standby is 32% of my battery draining according to the chart. that and phone idle take the top 2 positions.
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Those two take up my top as well. Thats my point, simply idling eats up the battery worse than even on my thunderbolt.

How much will a new update to the radio do for the Bionic? Didn't the TB initially have terrible battery life because of its original radio software? Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

I have over 28 hrs on my bionic currently and still going. I'm at 30% as of right now. Phone has been off the charger since 0630 yesterday am. It is now 1422 on the 13th.

eakrish said:
I have over 28 hrs on my bionic currently and still going. I'm at 30% as of right now. Phone has been off the charger since 0630 yesterday am. It is now 1422 on the 13th.
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3g?
BrianMigs said:
How much will a new update to the radio do for the Bionic? Didn't the TB initially have terrible battery life because of its original radio software? Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks.
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The thunderbolt has been through a ton of (leaked) radios. I think the consensus was that the OTA radio was a big help.

Also in the boat with standby and idle as the top battery consumers reaching 40%+ of the battery life depleters.

My Bionic goes for almost 24 hours between charges. So i don't care how much cell standby time it uses. it is getting DOUBLE what my thunderbolt does under the same usage.
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idk
The battery life on my new bionic got better when/after.
I conditioned the battery! enormous difference from first couple charges.
Realized that, once again my phone cannot replace my TV, Laptop, blender and wasnt going to help my kids behave better. It is my phone.
I installed juice defender! Huge difference. really like the app
Like a watched pot never boiling. If you stop watching the battery meter go down it actually DOES stop going down. Amazing.

My battery life is mixed 3g/4g.
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so thats how ya like it . little bit of this little bit o that eh?

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Eta of a real extended battery ?

Any idea on eta of an extended battery that's over 2000 mah ?
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charjmd7 said:
Any idea on eta of an extended battery that's over 2000 mah ?
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1) You really think the Shift needs one? Don't try the original EVO!
2) You really want your phone to be even thicker?
I am quite satisfied with the battery life. Actually very impressed. Consistently getting 16+ hours out of it. I'm usually a battery snob too. I guess to each it's own
I am satisfied enough with the allegedly 2000mAh battery I got on eBay. The nonobvious fact is that it charges much more completely when powered down. For various reasons, I don't want to leave the phone powered down all night, so I leave it plugged in but powered up. As soon as I wake up, I power it down and plug it back in, and it continues to trickle-charge for another 90 minutes, until I leave the house.
how much
T-Rave said:
I am quite satisfied with the battery life. Actually very impressed. Consistently getting 16+ hours out of it. I'm usually a battery snob too. I guess to each it's own
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I have seen 1800 and 2000 batteries on Ebay and been tempted, how much better are they?
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I have seen 1800 and 2000 batteries on Ebay and been tempted, how much better are they?
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I am curious about these batteries too. Mine is OK I get decent battery life but I am a very heavy phone user and I have to charge mine about mid day. It would be nice to get through the day without charging it.
jjb61 said:
I am curious about these batteries too. Mine is OK I get decent battery life but I am a very heavy phone user and I have to charge mine about mid day. It would be nice to get through the day without charging it.
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Mind sharing your definition of heavy use? To eat the battery in half a day... WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, Consistent music or video use...?
I just ask because that's a pretty harsh battery cycle. On my heroc, cm6 would eat it. 8 hours tops... no matter what I did. Then AOSP would last 30.
With medium to heavy usage, I get no less than 18 hours. My longest cycle has been 61 hours.
WiFi running all day... at least an hour of Angry Birds. Some YouTube. Usually 50 - 100 sms/mms. 2 - 3 hrs talk time. Bout 10 received and sent emails on average as well.
Guess that is light use compared to some abusers.
;-)
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I will say this, if you spend a lot of time in an area with low signal that will kill your battery quickly.
I work in the 9th circle of hell for cell signal and my battery dies much faster in the office than it does when I'm not in.
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I will say this, if you spend a lot of time in an area with low signal that will kill your battery quickly.
I work in the 9th circle of hell for cell signal and my battery dies much faster in the office than it does when I'm not in.
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Agreed. I work on the inland waterways... sometimes lucky to get 1x for a couple hundred nautical miles (which can be a few days at times) and... well I don't wanna address that issue.
That's why I don't base my statistics on work time at all.
Also to note.. although most phone users should already know this, downloading a 10 mb file on 3G, or even 4g for that matter, will use a hell of a lot less battery than downloading a comparable file on 1x.
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Agreed. I work on the inland waterways... sometimes lucky to get 1x for a couple hundred nautical miles (which can be a few days at times) and... well I don't wanna address that issue.
That's why I don't base my statistics on work time at all.
Also to note.. although most phone users should already know this, downloading a 10 mb file on 3G, or even 4g for that matter, will use a hell of a lot less battery than downloading a comparable file on 1x.
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Yup, between that and the Websense filters on my work pc I go nuts.
I keep a charger plugged in at the office though.
Did you get the wall I posted up for you?
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Yup, between that and the Websense filters on my work pc I go nuts.
I keep a charger plugged in at the office though.
Did you get the wall I posted up for you?
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Which one? Let's not jack this thread! To the bat cave!
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Juice defender ultimate, bcblend kernel, and stay on wifi when you can....my battery life is pretty darn good... can't say I wouldn't want more though. But try that out in the meantime.
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just turn off mobile data when u not using it and orignall battry gives u about 16 to 18 hours with mid use
i have beejive im running all day and use browser alot and youtube plus one 45 minz tv show and some games wich uses data and at night i leave the phone on with mobile data off and it gives me about 16 to 17 hours of battry life
but i have to charge tho when when i watch soccer and cricket on it
becouse soccer is about 2 hours and my cricket is about 5 to 6 hours of video streaming
BrandoKC said:
I will say this, if you spend a lot of time in an area with low signal that will kill your battery quickly.
I work in the 9th circle of hell for cell signal and my battery dies much faster in the office than it does when I'm not in.
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Agreed. I get very little signal at my house at all, I have a Sprint Airvana box that supports the signal throughout my house and it eats up my battery throughout the day.
It's ridiculous that these companies are putting the same 1500 mAh batteries into smartphones as they did in the old school phones. Forcing anyone who actually uses there phone much to be dependent on a power outlet throughout the day.
Sure, slim is "in", and it saves the manufacturer money by stiffing us with an inadequate battery, but screws the consumer that actually uses their smartphone.
Your only alternative is to spend an additional near $100.00 to get an acceptable battery that should have come with the phone to begin with.
charjmd7 said:
Any idea on eta of an extended battery that's over 2000 mah ?
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It depends on shipper's location, the shipping method, and your location
But to discuss the "battery life" of an extended battery, it depends on the quality of the battery cells. When I had my Evo 4G, I bought one of those $15 3500 mAh eBay batteries with a cover. It lasted 15-30% longer than the stock battery. Sometimes it wasn't any better than stock. Using the Seidio 3500 mAh battery, it lasted much longer than the cheapo extended battery, but it was also $50+.
If you want a quality battery, that is almost guaranteed to be rated close to what's written on the cover, get a Mugen, or a Seidio. You will also get the battery life you expect. If you want something that might or might not last longer than stock, go with the cheapo eBay batteries.
You get what you pay for.

Cell standby and phone idle eating 80a of my battery

So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
I have the extended battery and get about 12 hours of heavy video and streaming audio, web browsing, maps, E-Mail, texts & calls. This is split about 50/50 4G & WiFi. I have no idea how you're only getting 5 hours. That almost seams impossible to me. Like the above post says, maybe you have an app that isn't shutting down? I am not sure but something is DEFINITELY not normal
But if it was an app behaving badly shouldn't it show up on the battery usage log thing? I'm gonna wipe when my shift ends at 8 am and see how it lasts today with only Go SMS installed. If it is dead in a few hours again I know for sure its the phone or battery. If it lasts then I get to start the painful proccess of adding apps back one at a time until I find the culprit.
Thanks for the advice. 5 hours seems impossible to me too, but that is all it lasts. Freaking me out that it is eating so much. Maybe ill try the stock battery later. Maybe its just the battery that is FUBAR'd
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Legato Bluesummers said:
So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
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Never. LoL I don't run bloatware.
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Those with "bad" radios will obviously have a bad radio if their battery life is crap correct? My Bionic seems to do ok with battery life, but I still can't manage to get what all these other users are getting with the stock battery.
Maybe I'm a heavy user that's in denial of being a "light" user...
My battery life with the extended battery is amazing.
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Immolate said:
I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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I am having the same problem. I am going to give them a call on Monday.
Fixed it. Ran the bootstrap app to get into clockwork. Did a factory reset a few times over to make sure it was all clear. Loaded only the bare apps I needed onto phone and battery went from 7am Sunday morning til 10pm and only lost 50%. XD so it was definitely an app playing badly.
I put almost all my 180 some odd apps back on with titanium. But any that do any kind of syncing I downloaded freshly and didn't transfer any data, started brand new there too. So far today unplugged phone at 2am at work, its almost ten now and its only fallen to 50%. Granted I have far more stuff installed now and wwas using it a bit at work. Not too bad. Want to see how much longer it will go
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How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
471405 said:
How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
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damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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ROB281 said:
damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
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Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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roughly 20 texts, 5-10 calls, maybe an hour of Facebook throughout the day, a couple hours of web surfing, and maybe an hour of gaming
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471405 said:
Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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can't say for sure but I know my battery was lasting a hell of a lot longer than 5-6 hours from day 1
I have the extended battery. I get great battery life when playing games, streaming video, listening to pandora, web surfing and phone calls. I am in a 3g area only. But when it comes to just idle time it seems like its using almost twice the amount of battery life as my droid x did. My droid x with the extended battery would drop 10 to 20% while idle from 11:30 pm to 7:30am. My bionic last night, I went to bed at 11:30pm and had 80% with extended battery, I woke up at 7:30am and was at 40%???
Does that sound right?? Also when using wifi the battery drops faster, should it use more battery on wifi or 3g? I have never used any bloatware and have the same apps installed as my droid x.
I'm having the same problem with my phone. 5.5 hours of battery with little to no use. i have to keep my phone on a charger throughout the day.... a power charger. the phone will die if just connected via usb.
Have you guys calibrated the new battery? There is also a neat little calibration trick in the x2 forums, works like a charm.
Google "juhde battery" and it should show up. Can't recommend it enough...
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snowblind64 said:
Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
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Can you please post your battery usage statistics for Voice calls and Cell standby?
I'm interested to see where I stand also..
Thanks,

extended battery is a must

verizon has for 50% off so is $25 including back cover had a extended batter for droid 1 makes battery issue go away can use alot more without recharge
Up to 20 hours normal use til completely dead battery , on standard battery.
I'm fine.
wow
wish i got on 4g or 3g all day?
stock rom ?
just curious i am lucky to get 8 hour shift and down to 30 %
on 4g and custom rom also
Unleashed, unl3ashed. how ever you spell it. 1.4
Normal use for me tho, is the phone sitting idle in my pocket a lot cause of class and what not.
I'll send out probably between 100-200 texts, talk for 10-15 total minutes, maybe do a web search or two.
Battery profile set to turn data off after 15 minutes of inactivity, background data off. Screen brightness all the way down.
Like I said before in another thread, you could turn CPU scaling to ondemand and that, from my experience, saves a little juice, but has random restarts. You could also try leaving it on the stock mot_hotplug, and turn the max freq down and see if that helps.
I'm on 4g half the day, 3g the other half (when the radio is on of coarse).
Gotta recalibrate the battery too if you haven't done that. I've done both the app, and the manual way in CWM, both work fine, per long as you do it with the phone at 100% plugged in, and let it completely die before you charge it again.
What do you mean recalibrate the battery? I didn't think I had to do anything with it???
under battery on market will see battery calibrate
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verizon has for 50% off so is $25 including back cover had a extended batter for droid 1 makes battery issue go away can use alot more without recharge
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I get all day as it is? Do I really need a bigger battery?
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gotta be rooted, thats the fine print per say.
If you can't calibrate it yourself, best to just let the thing die, charge it to 100%, and let it die again.
Still, if that's still what they're going for at Verizon, it's really hard to beat that price-point. I got one and I love it. Over 24 hours on stock with my usage.
Where are you seeing it for half off?
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Where are you seeing it for half off?
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You have to put in your cart before you see the discount on Verizon site.
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I got mine half off, but thats what i get all accessories for with my corporate discount .. they didnt say anything about it being half off in general...
True. Mine was half off last night
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I just bought the extended Battery today (without my Corp Discount) and it was in fact 50% off because of a promotion that they are running. Not a bad buy for 25 bux!
Now to test and see how much life i can get out of it
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I just bought the extended Battery today (without my Corp Discount) and it was in fact 50% off because of a promotion that they are running. Not a bad buy for 25 bux!
Now to test and see how much life i can get out of it
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Only a couple hours....
**Just an update** 16 hours and 30 min so far with 40% still remaining. Definitely not bad at all and so much better then stock battery. (Was getting Max of 10%/hr with stock) **moderate use including a couple You-tube vids, checking corp mail and gmail, browsing the web, texting, and reading XDA!
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Only a couple hours....
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Yea Only 24+ hours, haha nice man!!
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Have to have the extended battery. half off doesn't hurt either.
i dont know how you guys get 20 hours on standard battery? do you mean to have 20hours of ideal time?
I picked up the extended battery at launch and love it. I was planning on running the regular battery on the weekends but find I like the feel of the extended case in my hand. With the original for some reason it feels like the phone is going to slip out of my fingers.

XT860: High Battery usage "Cell standby" culprit

Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?
pfak said:
Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?
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Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
I'm also on rogers though, is any XT860 users on Bell also noticing the same thing? Btw I uninstalled JuiceDefender as it was slowing my phone down a lot.
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Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
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I use Trillian, but I also used Trillian on my old phone (HTC Desire Z) and received a magnitude better battery life (one and a half days.) Even with Trillian not enabled on my device, I am seeing the same drain occurring.
I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..
Mathieu2k4 said:
I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..
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How long do you have to go between charges of your device?
15h average
10h now with 30% remaining
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15h average
10h now with 30% remaining
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That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.
It has to have something to do with Bell Mobility. Mine has no battery problem; lasts up to 30-37 hours on one full charge. It never connects to Bell's networks (only AT&T), so I'm thinking, what if there is some Bell bloatware or low-level network reporting/feedback software that is constantly communicating to some server on Bell's networks, and since my phone has no access to Bell's networks then the software is prevented from working its evil battery-draining magic..?
I don't know. Just a suggestion; why would the exact same phone model not eat battery on AT&T's networks when it does on Bell's?
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That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.
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"Mototola" and "better battery life" in the same sentence ?
I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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Motorola phones are too dependent on the network.
When I got my milestone, with the first firmware, I barely reached the 2pm, with the vodafone sim, with the same FW it lasted almost a whole day with a three.it SIM.
Looks like the situation is almost unchanged
I read in other threads that the Verizon Droid 3 had the same problem when it was released, but after the update, this problem was fixed. I'm on TELUS with my XT860.
I unplug it at 7h30 in the morning and plug it at 23h00 at night with 30% left.
Also, I read the whole CM7 ROM thread and talk about how Motorola seems to have purposefully decided to attenuate cell phone reception (in system files, fixable) to make it seem like the US Droid 3 has a better radio reception.... that last part could be speculation about how Motorola decided to program the device, but this reminds me of how Apple "fixed" the iPhone 4 deathgrip issue by only reprogramming how the device displays and understands the radio signal strenght level.
I'm using an XT860 on AT&T's network. Only had it for a few days but the battery life isn't too terrible - about on par with my Desire Z.
Right now I have been unplugged for 17 hours and am down to 17% battery life remaining. While its nothing to shout about its not too terrible either, considering it is still completely stock. Here's my usage for the day (pretty typical day for me):
Gmail and Work Email 'Pushing' to device constantly
Send/Receive approx 150 texts
Playing Wordfeud throughout the day - +/- 30 moves
30 minutes of calling - all using bluetooth connection to headset
Wifi on when at home - approx 7 hours
Display brightness at 50%
About 30 minutes of web browsing and digging around in market
According to the battery stats, cell standby is still the biggest culprit at 36% followed by phone idle at 33% and wifi at 16%. Everything else is below 10% (although not sure how much I trust the accuracy of these numbers)
We will see how it does over the next week or so. I still may decide to go with the larger 1930 mah battery for days where I use the phone more heavily but as long as I can make it from the time I rise from bed to the time I go to sleep on one charge, I'm happy.
Wow that is good battery life. My battery seems weaker.
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This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
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Endoroid said:
This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
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Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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MrObvious said:
Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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I had to Google that. No I don't believe so. Keeping in mind this is not info I've gotten from moto/bell/Verizon but rather because I spend too much time reading these forums. The speculation was that the radio searches for a signal, like it was in a low/no signal area, even if it had full strength. To elaborate on my previous post, someone who owned an OG droid and a D3 brought them around with him all day, in his office he never had any cell reception and at home he had great reception. At the office both phones lost battery at about the same rate and had similar battery usage stats, as they both spent all their time searching for signal. At home the droid3 continued to lose battery at the same rate, like it was still searching for signal, even though it had full, while the OG battery loss slowed way down.
I'd find the thread except it was awhile ago and I'm way too lazy to look for it. I also know that when Verizon released the 5.6.890 update, this issue seemed to be fixed.
Also I sometimes have to toggle airplane mode as my data seems to stop working and it never fixes this problem. I think these are 2 very separate bugs
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I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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leobg said:
I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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I emailed Motorola about it and was told they could not give a timeframe onwhen an update would be made available
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Has anyone else looked at the logs for the radio on the XT860 with the Bell firmware? It's absolutely being spammed!
If you have the Android SDK installed, you can see the radio messages by executing the following command:
Code:
adb logcat -b radio
I suspect this part of the issue, and would like to see what the results are like on the XT862 (from Verizon.)

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So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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Gonna need more info than that. You talking screen on time? or total? under what settings? full screen brightness?
Yeah screen on time with auto screen brightness. Pretty much on LTE all day. Only disabled bloat apps.
Full day with it, unplugged at 3am and at 8:38pm cst, I am still at 48%. Now I don't use facebook or Tweeter so that helps my battery life. Wifi at work weak and slow so I am on LTE most of the time.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
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Root doesn't mean better battery life. My nexus 5 had about the same battery and got about the same battery life as my s6. And that's rooted, stock, slimrom, and cataclysm. My G3 has about 500 more mAh than the s6 and I get about 5 hours of screen time. Stock battery was better than cyanogen battery.
It's not 2012 anymore. Root is almost obsolete. It's good for app removal, rooted app functionality, and customization. Even if underclocked and undervolted it doesn't change dramatically. If u want a better battery, buy a phone with a bigger battery. MOST people don't look at their phone for 25% of their awake hours (if avg sleep is 8 hrs.) The s6 will give u 3.5-4hrs of screen time on 14-15 hours of use. That is plenty for MOST users
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Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here!
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We badly need root. Rooting my phone has always improved the battery life and performance of your phone.
Battery life today was better I think. Screen-on time didn't even show up in the battery usage list, so i'm not sure how much it used. 20.5hrs since unplugging with 14% left.
This will definitely be a phone I'll have to get rid of after a year. With constant charging and a sealed battery, this device really doesn't have a long life. That's my main concern.
Someone in another thread turned off Enhanced LTE (Voice over LTE) under network settings and saw a much better battery life (or lack of drain).
I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
Pure+ said:
Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated mine plus turned off Wi-Fi and the hotspots setting in advanced Wi-Fi and battery life has improved. I still see screen as being one of the lowest factors for battery consumption. Our gs6 must have a very battery efficient display. Android os is now my top battery drain. I'm hoping an update to android 5.1 improves the system battery usage. I know it did on my nexus 6.
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if you heavily use it well.. thats pretty normal.. mine can last a day if i don't use it for browsing just sms.. but for calling it would mean smaller life
brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I can vouch for this myself. I was getting pretty bad drain to the point where I was about to return the phone.
The cache wipe seemed to work wonders. Along with deleting and reinstalling google play services (I searched google play services in chrome, clicked the link and jninstalled reinstalled uodates , then did cache wipe)
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Battery life seems great to me.

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