XT860: High Battery usage "Cell standby" culprit - Motorola Droid 3

Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?

pfak said:
Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?
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Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
I'm also on rogers though, is any XT860 users on Bell also noticing the same thing? Btw I uninstalled JuiceDefender as it was slowing my phone down a lot.

danifunker said:
Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
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I use Trillian, but I also used Trillian on my old phone (HTC Desire Z) and received a magnitude better battery life (one and a half days.) Even with Trillian not enabled on my device, I am seeing the same drain occurring.

I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..

Mathieu2k4 said:
I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..
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How long do you have to go between charges of your device?

15h average
10h now with 30% remaining

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15h average
10h now with 30% remaining
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That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.

It has to have something to do with Bell Mobility. Mine has no battery problem; lasts up to 30-37 hours on one full charge. It never connects to Bell's networks (only AT&T), so I'm thinking, what if there is some Bell bloatware or low-level network reporting/feedback software that is constantly communicating to some server on Bell's networks, and since my phone has no access to Bell's networks then the software is prevented from working its evil battery-draining magic..?
I don't know. Just a suggestion; why would the exact same phone model not eat battery on AT&T's networks when it does on Bell's?

pfak said:
That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.
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"Mototola" and "better battery life" in the same sentence ?

I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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LifeInAnalog said:
I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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Motorola phones are too dependent on the network.
When I got my milestone, with the first firmware, I barely reached the 2pm, with the vodafone sim, with the same FW it lasted almost a whole day with a three.it SIM.
Looks like the situation is almost unchanged

I read in other threads that the Verizon Droid 3 had the same problem when it was released, but after the update, this problem was fixed. I'm on TELUS with my XT860.
I unplug it at 7h30 in the morning and plug it at 23h00 at night with 30% left.
Also, I read the whole CM7 ROM thread and talk about how Motorola seems to have purposefully decided to attenuate cell phone reception (in system files, fixable) to make it seem like the US Droid 3 has a better radio reception.... that last part could be speculation about how Motorola decided to program the device, but this reminds me of how Apple "fixed" the iPhone 4 deathgrip issue by only reprogramming how the device displays and understands the radio signal strenght level.

I'm using an XT860 on AT&T's network. Only had it for a few days but the battery life isn't too terrible - about on par with my Desire Z.
Right now I have been unplugged for 17 hours and am down to 17% battery life remaining. While its nothing to shout about its not too terrible either, considering it is still completely stock. Here's my usage for the day (pretty typical day for me):
Gmail and Work Email 'Pushing' to device constantly
Send/Receive approx 150 texts
Playing Wordfeud throughout the day - +/- 30 moves
30 minutes of calling - all using bluetooth connection to headset
Wifi on when at home - approx 7 hours
Display brightness at 50%
About 30 minutes of web browsing and digging around in market
According to the battery stats, cell standby is still the biggest culprit at 36% followed by phone idle at 33% and wifi at 16%. Everything else is below 10% (although not sure how much I trust the accuracy of these numbers)
We will see how it does over the next week or so. I still may decide to go with the larger 1930 mah battery for days where I use the phone more heavily but as long as I can make it from the time I rise from bed to the time I go to sleep on one charge, I'm happy.

Wow that is good battery life. My battery seems weaker.
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This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
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Endoroid said:
This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
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Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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MrObvious said:
Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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I had to Google that. No I don't believe so. Keeping in mind this is not info I've gotten from moto/bell/Verizon but rather because I spend too much time reading these forums. The speculation was that the radio searches for a signal, like it was in a low/no signal area, even if it had full strength. To elaborate on my previous post, someone who owned an OG droid and a D3 brought them around with him all day, in his office he never had any cell reception and at home he had great reception. At the office both phones lost battery at about the same rate and had similar battery usage stats, as they both spent all their time searching for signal. At home the droid3 continued to lose battery at the same rate, like it was still searching for signal, even though it had full, while the OG battery loss slowed way down.
I'd find the thread except it was awhile ago and I'm way too lazy to look for it. I also know that when Verizon released the 5.6.890 update, this issue seemed to be fixed.
Also I sometimes have to toggle airplane mode as my data seems to stop working and it never fixes this problem. I think these are 2 very separate bugs
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I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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leobg said:
I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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I emailed Motorola about it and was told they could not give a timeframe onwhen an update would be made available
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Has anyone else looked at the logs for the radio on the XT860 with the Bell firmware? It's absolutely being spammed!
If you have the Android SDK installed, you can see the radio messages by executing the following command:
Code:
adb logcat -b radio
I suspect this part of the issue, and would like to see what the results are like on the XT862 (from Verizon.)

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Anandtech preview, troubling battery life tests

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4761/motorola-droid-bionic-preview
Check it out. Doesn't seem to bode well for motorola's baseband. Hopefully they're quick to toss out a new radio. Cell standby has easily been my largest drain in the past few days.
eallan said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4761/motorola-droid-bionic-preview
Check it out. Doesn't seem to bode well for motorola's baseband. Hopefully they're quick to toss out a new radio. Cell standby has easily been my largest drain in the past few days.
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Cell Standby is 32% of my battery draining according to the chart. that and phone idle take the top 2 positions.
sLpFhaWK said:
Cell Standby is 32% of my battery draining according to the chart. that and phone idle take the top 2 positions.
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Those two take up my top as well. Thats my point, simply idling eats up the battery worse than even on my thunderbolt.
How much will a new update to the radio do for the Bionic? Didn't the TB initially have terrible battery life because of its original radio software? Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks.
I have over 28 hrs on my bionic currently and still going. I'm at 30% as of right now. Phone has been off the charger since 0630 yesterday am. It is now 1422 on the 13th.
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I have over 28 hrs on my bionic currently and still going. I'm at 30% as of right now. Phone has been off the charger since 0630 yesterday am. It is now 1422 on the 13th.
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3g?
BrianMigs said:
How much will a new update to the radio do for the Bionic? Didn't the TB initially have terrible battery life because of its original radio software? Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks.
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The thunderbolt has been through a ton of (leaked) radios. I think the consensus was that the OTA radio was a big help.
Also in the boat with standby and idle as the top battery consumers reaching 40%+ of the battery life depleters.
My Bionic goes for almost 24 hours between charges. So i don't care how much cell standby time it uses. it is getting DOUBLE what my thunderbolt does under the same usage.
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idk
The battery life on my new bionic got better when/after.
I conditioned the battery! enormous difference from first couple charges.
Realized that, once again my phone cannot replace my TV, Laptop, blender and wasnt going to help my kids behave better. It is my phone.
I installed juice defender! Huge difference. really like the app
Like a watched pot never boiling. If you stop watching the battery meter go down it actually DOES stop going down. Amazing.
My battery life is mixed 3g/4g.
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so thats how ya like it . little bit of this little bit o that eh?

droid 3 poor battery life, vs droid 2 global

This is just a rant.
I have droid 3 for about 2 weeks. I notice that D3 life is far worse than D2G. For the same usage pattern of me, I usually got about 4 days out of D2G. But for my D3, I always get less than 2 days of usage.
The culprit seems to be "cell standby" (there was another thread on this). My D2G always got about 5% on "cell standby" however, my D3 always got over 35% of power usage on "Cell Standby".
End of rant.
mohoho said:
This is just a rant.
I have droid 3 for about 2 weeks. I notice that D3 life is far worse than D2G. For the same usage pattern of me, I usually got about 4 days out of D2G. But for my D3, I always get less than 2 days of usage.
The culprit seems to be "cell standby" (there was another thread on this). My D2G always got about 5% on "cell standby" however, my D3 always got over 35% of power usage on "Cell Standby".
End of rant.
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Cell STANDBY. STANDBY. It means the phone is idling and not being used...
GoogleAndroid said:
Cell STANDBY. STANDBY. It means the phone is idling and not being used...
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+1
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Sounds to me like someone needs to switch Carrier Mode from "Global" to "CDMA".
Unless you severely hack your phone or travel outside of the US, you won't need Global mode.
This prevents the GSM radio from switching on.
Also, Cell Standby will be used frequently when you're in a weak signal area. The best solution to that is to switch cdma mode to "Home Only" and use Wifi if you're using data apps. Strong Wifi uses less battery than weak CDMA.
rynosaur said:
Sounds to me like someone needs to switch Carrier Mode from "Global" to "CDMA".
Unless you severely hack your phone or travel outside of the US, you won't need Global mode.
This prevents the GSM radio from switching on.
Also, Cell Standby will be used frequently when you're in a weak signal area. The best solution to that is to switch cdma mode to "Home Only" and use Wifi if you're using data apps. Strong Wifi uses less battery than weak CDMA.
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What's the difference between cdma home vs auto?
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how did you get 4 DAYS from a D2G?!?
jarzy00 said:
What's the difference between cdma home vs auto?
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Roaming I believe.
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mohoho said:
This is just a rant.
I have droid 3 for about 2 weeks. I notice that D3 life is far worse than D2G. For the same usage pattern of me, I usually got about 4 days out of D2G. But for my D3, I always get less than 2 days of usage.
The culprit seems to be "cell standby" (there was another thread on this). My D2G always got about 5% on "cell standby" however, my D3 always got over 35% of power usage on "Cell Standby".
End of rant.
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Actually two days of usage without a charge is pretty good. That's about what I get with my extended battery and fairly lite usage. A couple of possibilities: 1) you now have a dual core cpu which is much faster than your D2G but probably draws more power. 2) You may be using your phone a lot more. I know when I switched my wife from her Droid 1 to her new Droid 3, at first she was complaining of poor battery life. Trying to trace that down I looked at her data usage for the first month she had it and it had more than doubled from about 500 MB on the last month with the Droid 1 to over 1 GB the first month with the droid 3. See, it was her new toy so she was playing with it a lot more than usual - particularly since the phone is faster which allows her to do more with it. We are in the second month now and data usage seems to be getting back to a more normal level.
The point being that when its new, the tendency is to use it a lot - even if its just getting it all set up the way you want.

Battery drained in 5hrs.???

Hey guys Thanks for stopping by, I've seen many posts like this which I really didn't want to post but I ran out of options... Im. Currently running on gingervolt 1.3/ blitzkrieg+ 2.6.35.7, I hope you guys have all the info you need. I leave it running over night and when I leave for work in the morning at noon its already powered off because no more battery... Please let me know if there's something I can do to make it last longer... I'm not the type of person that uses the phone all day.. Thank you
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Should be in General not Development, And why don't you just shut the phone off until you go to work?
You can try: Setting the CPU lower with an apk like CPU master, CPU set, ROM toolbox, ect.... Turn down the brightness of your screen. .. Uninstall some of the apk that are always running in the background... Turn off LED message alert. Stop using apks like advanced task killer (unless you custom set it up to not kill system vital apk.) Turn off 4g unless in an area that has strong 4g sig. Recalibrate your battery after a full charge. Install GingerVolt 2.0. Buy extended battery (still $25 @ vzw website)
There are many different things you can do to get more battery life out of your phone... Look in the GingerVolt forum and check out where others have done. But get a custom to bringing your charger everywhere you go.
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Turning off background data saves a good bit too. And unless im gaming or seriously multitasking i keep cpu speeds @ 245 & 1200
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Turn off 4g. I didn't use my phone at all but to check battery status every few hours and it lasted 1 day 16 hours.
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For those that helped me out with some tips I greatly appreciate your suggestions... I will go ahead and do some tweaking and see if that helps. Once again thanks guys
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Not just turn off 4G but turn off data and wifi. These 2 radios are constantly working. The more time with them off the longer the battery will last.
mtmichaelson said:
Turn off 4g. I didn't use my phone at all but to check battery status every few hours and it lasted 1 day 16 hours.
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I hope with all the wonderful work you do for us that you get to enjoy it more than that...
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My own experience and take is that daily battery life depends on good cell signal. I live at the fringe between three cell sites. My signal is typically two bars or less. At work I have a similar situation, but shielded by building opposite the cell side.
I always stay plugged in because my battery is always being used otherwise. My guess is that people who report much greater battery life are lucky enough to be in areas with good signal strength.
As an example, this morning I got up 1.5 hours ago, took the phone off the wall charger, rebooted it and used it a bit during my morning prep. I left home an hour ago with the phone plugged in to the car charger for 20 minutes (which charges at the lower USB rate). I have been at work for 40 minutes off charger since and now have 90% left on my EXTENDED battery.
At home reception is 3G most of the time. Work 4G.
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yeah I agree, turning off 4G is not an acceptable solution....
GV2.0 unmodified with a cpu tool worked fine for me but I have gotten accustomed to having chargers with me wherever I go (home, office, car)
We are hearing battery life is much improved on ZV8, so maybe that will help too with the next GV release....
dbeauch said:
yeah I agree, turning off 4G is not an acceptable solution....
GV2.0 unmodified with a cpu tool worked fine for me but I have gotten accustomed to having chargers with me wherever I go (home, office, car)
We are hearing battery life is much improved on ZV8, so maybe that will help too with the next GV release....
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V8 battery life for me is now crap. I have gone from about 3% per hour usage to 7 to 10% usage and that is with almost no usage of the phone. This is sucking. I am about to roll back to v7 if this does not improve.
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Haxcid said:
V8 battery life for me is now crap. I have gone from about 3% per hour usage to 7 to 10% usage and that is with almost no usage of the phone. This is sucking. I am about to roll back to v7 if this does not improve.
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Not sure how your phone is different. Maybe you need a new battery or possibly a new phone. Forgot my phone at home during work today. I'm at 86% after 9.5 hours.
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I've got the same problem he has except it got worse after I went to Gingervolt 2.0. From what I've read on here it seems that not wiping date may have something to do with that so once he gets the new update incorporated into Gingervolt I'll be doing a complete wipe and trying from there.
DOWN WITH BING
Bait-Fish said:
My own experience and take is that daily battery life depends on good cell signal. I live at the fringe between three cell sites. My signal is typically two bars or less. At work I have a similar situation, but shielded by building opposite the cell side.
I always stay plugged in because my battery is always being used otherwise. My guess is that people who report much greater battery life are lucky enough to be in areas with good signal strength.
As an example, this morning I got up 1.5 hours ago, took the phone off the wall charger, rebooted it and used it a bit during my morning prep. I left home an hour ago with the phone plugged in to the car charger for 20 minutes (which charges at the lower USB rate). I have been at work for 40 minutes off charger since and now have 90% left on my EXTENDED battery.
At home reception is 3G most of the time. Work 4G.
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Sounds like you're killing the battery by always staying plugged in. I go about 11-14 hours a day on 3G (no 4G in my area) with stock battery with moderate use
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Gel Pen6 said:
Sounds like you're killing the battery by always staying plugged in. I go about 11-14 hours a day on 3G (no 4G in my area) with stock battery with moderate use
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+1 to that, my standard battery made it 16 hours today, and I live between two mountains where service is spotty and my phone continuously switches between 3g and 4g
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Killing a battery by keeping it topped off or cycling it. Which is the greater evil? This type of battery has a number of discharge life cycles. So, stressing by keeping the voltage at max or consume those life cycles? I don't know, but I certainly want to have it most available, and keeping it charged works for me. Some people don't let their fuel tanks go less than 1/2.
In the end, I have way more battery, extended and spares, to care if keeping it charged up is hurting the battery because I only have it until the next upgrade in a year.
Ideally, I would prefer to change the charge scheme so it wouldn't run the charge voltage so high maybe to 95%, to protect the battery further. But, in my time frame, doesn't matter.
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I run JuiceDefender Ultimate and it helps quite a bit. I'm using it in aggressive mode on Gingervolt 1.3 ROM, and ran it with stock before that.
I personally don't think hes killed the battery.
I have two because they gave me a special on docking station that came with an extra battery when I bought the phone. Anyway I sleep during the day because I work night shift. If my battery is almost dead I pop a new one in before bed otherwise its at about 97 percent after I got home from work. When I wake up 5-8 hours later I've lost almost 50 percent. Sometimes more from either battery.
I check the batter usage stats and Android System is up at about %97 percent...
I have all notifications turned off except Gmail and theres no WiFi or anything.
bjordont said:
When I wake up 5-8 hours later I've lost almost 50 percent. Sometimes more from either battery.
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I'm loosing abt 20% over that same time period letting JuiceDefender manage things.

Google Tech Support says Patch for Battery Drain Coming Soon

I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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Pretty certain he's correct,
Hasn't every nexus phone received a fast point release update that fixes a ton of things, improves performance and battery?
Doubt they would change that with the Nexus 4.
It would have been 4.2.1 but due to the December bug, it will have to be something else (4.2.2 probably lol)
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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No.
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I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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enviii said:
I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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Exactly.
This isn't a widespread problem.
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Google also said USB otg was supposed to be on this phone. Look at where that went.
I voided my warranty.
dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
Yeah. Android phones perform notoriously badly with low signal. I lost 30% at work in 1 hour because it kept trying to sync. Compare that with usually going home with 40% left.
Anyway I'm not saying battery can't be improved on this phone. But there really isn't a drain issue present.
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This would be nice though to get that update soon. 4.2.2 I'm guessing.
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There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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I hope they raise the damn thermal throttle too.
I hope they respond to USB OTG.
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revamper said:
There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
Nuu~ said:
Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
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It's free...just make sure to return it when you are done with Tmo.
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zephiK said:
Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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Yes, custom ROMs are already addressing certain issues. the battery drain and other stuff are definitely present in the stock firmware.
Guys, there are a lot of battery issues threads & guides & faqs and whatever on XDA. Look, for example, for one in my signature. Though it's for my previous device, most of things are still relevant.
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dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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There certainly is an issue which I've been suffering. Note in my case there is nothing recorded in the usual battery usage statistics to pin point any problem.
I found overnight and excessive daytime power drain in my case is because the CPU isn't entering deep sleep (using CPU Spy). Typically deep sleep should be in the 90 plus percentage range of all states. In my case it was spending 90% or more in the 384MHz state, so it was never really sleeping, and hadn't entered deep sleep at all, it was an unused state! This causes two problems, one, even though the CPU power drain is small, it adds up over the course of a night or day and eats power, and two, it also means the OS is up and running, so all applications are alive and any app that wants to ping home, download some ads or sync is free to do so which means the cell connection is constantly being kept active trickling packets of data back and forth, causing even more power drain.
Yes an application that has permission to stop the phone from sleeping is often the cause, in my case however battery stats showed no application keeping the phone awake, so I was baffled.
After a lot of troubleshooting I think it might be an issue with applications writing to the emulated SD card, perhaps keeping a file handle open, and this stops the phone entering deep-sleep at a low level in the kernel. As it is happening deeper down outside of Android it doesn't need an application with a keep awake permission to keep the phone awake, and also evades androids battery stats.
In my case I was running Bootlog Uptime, a small app with no permission to keep the phone awake but it does have permission to modify the contents on the SD card and I assume updating a log file on the SD card during the period the phone is awake, probably in order to detect a crash. As soon as this was uninstalled, even without restarting, my phone started deep sleeping.
Now overnight in flight mode it started out with 82% battery, and 9 hours later still had 82% battery! Now out of flight mode, it's been on for a few hours and has just dropped down to 81%.
Note that his application is running happily on a Nexus 7 and HTC One X without causing any issues, hence I think there is some driver in the kernel for the Nexus 4 that is incorrectly refusing to allow the CPU to deep sleep if it sees some activity in the flash memory.
Regards
Phil

I simply can not get good battery life with this phone!

I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
The HTC one isn't the best phone when it comes to standby time but still,I find battery life to be pretty good, super easy to get through a work day. Maybe you have an app that is running in the background and draining your battery. Install betterbatterystats and try monitoring your apps. That's all I can think of. Also take a look at the battery stats thread and see if folks can help you there.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
peterg21 said:
As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
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Wow thanks. I was starting to wonder what crazy app I downloaded. Forgot I was messing with settings. Lo and behold that option was checked. I didn't have it checked when ibfirst got this phone and had awesome batt life.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage.
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Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
Edit:Just got an update for Whatsapp (and Facebook and Skype all at once), let's hope it fixes the battery drain.....
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
godutch said:
Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
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Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
I Am Marino said:
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
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I only undervolted by 50mV in Aroma. Maybe I should set it back at standard?
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tiny4579 said:
Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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I bought a packet inspector and found it causes a lot of wake ups, like every minute or so....
Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
I whatsapp and check Twitter news apps sometime a game.
And i can do easy 12 hours max 17 with this usage .
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I was just thinking of the good battery performance I've been getting from the handset so far funnily enough.
I think it's been very good after only a couple of days with it.
Been using it moderately to heavy and it's held up pretty well. Over 13 hours now. Maybe it's certain apps u are using that's giving u problems with high drainage.
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cuyo11 said:
Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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What are your sync values set at for all your accounts...anything constantly updating will drain battery quickly
25% battery used for 1hr screen on time and 11hrs of standby
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I got mine FIXED !
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
salgrign said:
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I know that but mine was like 48 C at the peak when its hot which is very uncomfortable to hold that's why I said overheat. Anyway now its fixed and I don't have any complaints.
Arcadia310 said:
Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Also be sure to not use screen lock sounds or input sounds... the lock sound is the worst. I think it causes a wakelock bug that has been on Android since 4.0
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