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Galaxy Note on T-Mobile USA?

I have T-Mobile and am in US.... I really am interested in the Galaxy note and am wondering if it is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G/"4G"/HSPA+ network? I don't know what these frequency bands mean for compatibility ...

It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.

cadavar said:
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
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That is exactly the response I was looking for in terms of technicality goes.
Thank you very much!

interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html

crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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Hello all,
This is interesting. Is there anyways to confirm that Indian version will have "Penta" band?
I read that Note will launch in India on 3nd November. May be will have to wait to find out.

crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.

Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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i can't find anything to suggest any carrier in India uses the 1700/2100 bands needed for T-Mo (US) 3G to work anyway. so it must be about something else.

crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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There are many bands for UTMS, and t-mobile USA is the only one that uses 1700.
Odds are, even if it is pentaband, it still won't support 1700. It might, but it's unlikely.
- Frank

Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone

I've been researching a bit and it seems that the files are about the same on these phones, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That being said, I am in no way an expert, but I hope someone with more knowledge will chime in on this and give us a concrete answer.

getmouse said:
what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
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phone frequency band is hardware specific. if the crystal is not tuned for the frequency, theres nothing you can do to make the phone to accept it

I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.

torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I think that for now is the best idea

I still want this and thinking hard about pulling the trigger and just buying. Has anybody bought this on tmobiles network yet.
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You will only get Edge speeds.
There is no need to confirm anything.
Hardware IS HARDWARE.
I would not consider getting T-Mobile's version of this for the sole fact that they'll mess it up by putting a pair of 1.8 ghz Qualcomm chip in there to support their 42mbps network.
It will be garbage once that happens.
At this point, you either accept it as being Edge only on T-Mobile's network, or you don't get it altogether.

Yeah I know it only works on edge but if a million iphone users are using it then it might be usable but I kinda want a real world test of the Internet and not just specs since that's the only thing that's holding me back
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torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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You could ditch T-Mob, or not worth it? I would leave my carrier for the Note.

I made an inquiry about the Note coming to T mobile directly to someone I know at Samsung. He did get back to me and said they have figured a way around the present problem with the present chip configuration and will come out with a version that will be 1700/2100 compatible. BUT, not soon (2012) and probably will be the next version of this type of 5" + smart phone ....... So it is edge only on TMO for now..............

By the time they actually get to bring something like that out the quad core chips will be out and other makers might bring out something similar hopefully.

Howdy all?
Currently I am using Dell Streak which actually was launched for AT&T. So I was only getting TMo's EDGE speed on my Streak. Which for me was not a big deal because I would only have to deal with slow speed while I am either away from home or work.
Some might find it silly, but what I did was, removed my data portion which was with the phone and actually got TMo's 4g hotspot. And I carried both, my Streak and hotspot always with me. Which for me works out alright.

[Q]XT860 Radio Image

Is there a XT860 Radio Image or sbf / fastboot file that
will work on gsm (U.S. Bands, I.E. T-Mobile)?
instead of the chinese one, you know!

We have fastboot files from Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. All of these will work on an XT860 and GSM bands. Check out this thread for details and downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370721
As far as I know, these will not give you H+, only 3G speeds. Currently the only way to have H+ on an XT860 is to be on the Bell Firmware, which we do NOT yet have an SBF for.
Hope that helps.

gbarayah said:
We have fastboot files from Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. All of these will work on an XT860 and GSM bands. Check out this thread for details and downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370721
As far as I know, these will not give you H+, only 3G speeds. Currently the only way to have H+ on an XT860 is to be on the Bell Firmware, which we do NOT yet have an SBF for.
Hope that helps.
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i could flash em :/

If you have an xt860 afaik any firmware will work on american gsm though T-Mobile will ply get edge speeds. If you have an xt862 I do not know if xt860 radio.img will work on an xt862. They have different radio hardware
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Endoroid said:
If you have an xt860 afaik any firmware will work on american gsm though T-Mobile will ply get edge speeds. If you have an xt862 I do not know if xt860 radio.img will work on an xt862. They have different radio hardware
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afaik they all have the exact same hardware, idk i have a 62, but i want a better radio, the chinese is INDECIPHERABLE :/, i would like 3g going on tmo which i'm pretty sure possible just not on the chinese radio image, also i can flash the 60's image, i just need a proper(er) img (Hopefully bell's) And a build prop to go with it, i'm making a "Ghetto Fastboot"

ericerk said:
afaik they all have the exact same hardware, idk i have a 62, but i want a better radio, the chinese is INDECIPHERABLE :/, i would like 3g going on tmo which i'm pretty sure possible just not on the chinese radio image, also i can flash the 60's image, i just need a proper(er) img (Hopefully bell's) And a build prop to go with it, i'm making a "Ghetto Fastboot"
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As far as I know the best you can do with T-Mobile is edge speeds due to them using a band neither device ca use. I wish you the best of luck, if you succeed im sure others would be interested in your results
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Endoroid said:
As far as I know the best you can do with T-Mobile is edge speeds due to them using a band neither device ca use. I wish you the best of luck, if you succeed im sure others would be interested in your results
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Thanks!! we'll see how it goes

T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for its 3G. These phones do not have compatibility with that frequency. This is what I was trying to tell you before, when I said T-Mobile's 4G is not compatible: it's the same exact network. 3G=4G, only they call it 4G when your phone is capable of greater speeds due to more advanced radio technology, not a different frequency.
T-Mobile only uses 1900 MHz for Edge, and 2100 won't work because it's 4G only, and won't work if you don't also have access to 1700, which is for both 3G and 4G. I hope this makes sense.
I'm glad you made your own thread to deal with this issue, and I hope I am wrong and that someone more knowledgeable comes along and corrects me and tells us all how to make it work. If you figure it out I will apologize as well. However, I just want it to be clear that no one who has made gsm work on the D3 has been able to (let alone interested in) getting 3G/4G to work on T-Mobile. I have assumed it is because it's an incompatibility problem between the hardware of these phones and the network you're trying to use.
Even if you had an xt860, it wouldn't work on 3G on T-Mobile, so using their radio.img and build.prop won't help on the xt862. Just because you can flash them doesn't mean they will work.
By all means, please post results and let me know if I'm wrong. As I said, I would prefer to be wrong in this case, but I don't think I am.
By the way, the xt883 radio.img shouldn't change the functionality of the phone beyond letting it connect to gsm in the US. I really don't see what your gripe is with it. Not that I'm offended or something; who cares. But I use it every day and haven't seen any results worth frowning over, let alone trying to switch to the xt860's which is not at all compatible with CDMA.

BenSWoodruff said:
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for its 3G. These phones do not have compatibility with that frequency. This is what I was trying to tell you before, when I said T-Mobile's 4G is not compatible: it's the same exact network. 3G=4G, only they call it 4G when your phone is capable of greater speeds due to more advanced radio technology, not a different frequency.
T-Mobile only uses 1900 MHz for Edge, and 2100 won't work because it's 4G only, and won't work if you don't also have access to 1700, which is for both 3G and 4G. I hope this makes sense.
I'm glad you made your own thread to deal with this issue, and I hope I am wrong and that someone more knowledgeable comes along and corrects me and tells us all how to make it work. If you figure it out I will apologize as well. However, I just want it to be clear that no one who has made gsm work on the D3 has been able to (let alone interested in) getting 3G/4G to work on T-Mobile. I have assumed it is because it's an incompatibility problem between the hardware of these phones and the network you're trying to use.
Even if you had an xt860, it wouldn't work on 3G on T-Mobile, so using their radio.img and build.prop won't help on the xt862. Just because you can flash them doesn't mean they will work.
By all means, please post results and let me know if I'm wrong. As I said, I would prefer to be wrong in this case, but I don't think I am.
By the way, the xt883 radio.img shouldn't change the functionality of the phone beyond letting it connect to gsm in the US. I really don't see what your gripe is with it. Not that I'm offended or something; who cares. But I use it every day and haven't seen any results worth frowning over, let alone trying to switch to the xt860's which is not at all compatible with CDMA.
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That's how i've understood it, our devices lack the 1700 band. It will work on t-mobile network, but only at edge speeds. I do believe this has been tried. I also don't think an xt860 radio.img will work as expected on an xt862, but i wish him the best of luck. I would like to use t-mobile when i travel to the states, they have a really good pay per day plan compared to others i looked at(although for a week at a time i can live with edge speeds). and yes, xt860 is GSM only if the flash does work there will be no CDMA functionality

bp.img VS radio.img
What is the difference between bp.img and radio.img ?
Is it the same file ?

SX86 said:
What is the difference between bp.img and radio.img ?
Is it the same file ?
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Open in a Hex Editor to compare. I don't think they are the same... I took apart all of the files in the latest Bell update with no success, as well I tried dd'ing all of the different partition blocks to my phone just before sending it into the shop to get Bell firmware re-loaded onto it and didn't get any luck... in the end it was basically an encrypted bootloader problem.
If we can get the phone bootloader-unlocked we *might* be able to use some of the dd images that were created (I have each partition from bell 2.3.4) flashed through RSD then do the upgrade to the latest Bell, which overwrites the radio and boot partitions...
Let me know if anybody is interested in them. Please note, they the whole partitions and have extra padding on them. Also, I think I missed /preinstall, but I can't remember.
I created a new thread for this... again it's the original Bell stuff 2.3.4. I can probably do the same thing for the current Firmware as well.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449027 for the 2.3.4 dd images

I've never seen/heard of that first one you mentioned before.
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BenSWoodruff said:
I've never seen/heard of that first one you mentioned before.
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its in a candian rom, no its not the same, don't try to flash you'll mess up ur phone

So... did anyone try the XT860 radio on the XT862?

Can this device the 4G one work on tmobile Hugh speed network?

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Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mhz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.

cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!

BriCo84 said:
WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
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Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!

cambertoe said:
Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
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This is great to hear. I am going to hold off for now, as I would have to open a TMobile account, and I really dont NEED to have this until I start traveling in a few months.
Now what would be AMAZING, is if somehow this tablet could work on verizon. I have a huge corporate account with them and it would cost me next to nothing to add the tablet to the account, assuming it would work. I didn't think it was possible, but then again, I didn't think TMobile high speed connection was possible either.
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?

BriCo84 said:
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
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I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).

cambertoe said:
I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
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What about the LTE radios?

Thanks for the reply. Bought one already and hacking it today. Going to do the same thing i did to
Att's note, radio flash!
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cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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BriCo84 said:
What about the LTE radios?
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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.

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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
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I can tell you that this is legit. this is what I did. After paying I had the code in minutes and it worked
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I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
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As I said that is impossible because the carriers use incompatible setups. SIM card carriers (GSM) will only work with other SIM card carriers. Verizon uses CDMA with no SIM cards. The networks themselves are completely different and hardware cannot be hacked to work. Most of the world uses GSM with SIM cards and if you travel overseas, you'll need a GSM device to use unlocked devices on any networks. Blame Verizon for picking a standard that 80% of the world doesn't use

Has anyone tried flashing the tmobile high speed radio but on the current rooted stock ICS rom instead of the cm10 rom?
In other words, i have a stock rooted sgh-i957 on samsungs ICS rom and i want to be able to use tmobile high speed network (HSPA+). Does anyone know if thats possible?
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Need Help: network problem - very slow 3g

Everything was working fine I used to reach 12mb on 3g where I live and even more speed on lte 30 - 90mb (another city not where I live).
Now my problem in my city with almost full 3g bars I will not cross 0.35 mb on speed test and the surfing is very slow.
I tried many radios but no change?
Any help is appreciated.
My rom is ARHD 12.2
*I have galaxy note 8.0, I put my sim inside and the speed was great!!

Anyone?
I know it's a strange problem
not anly my phone even we test my friends phones HTC One & Butterfly !!

Power_Getter said:
Everything was working fine I used to reach 12mb on 3g where I live and even more speed on lte 30 - 90mb (another city not where I live).
Now my problem in my city with almost full 3g bars I will not cross 0.35 mb on speed test and the surfing is very slow.
I tried many radios but no change?
Any help is appreciated.
My rom is ARHD 12.2
*I have galaxy note 8.0, I put my sim inside and the speed was great!!
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3G is a very generic term. Do you mean EVDo or HSDPA or HSDPA+ or GSM or what?
When you do the speed test (use ookla) what does it tell you you are using?

sauprankul said:
3G is a very generic term. Do you mean EVDo or HSDPA or HSDPA+ or GSM or what?
When you do the speed test (use ookla) what does it tell you you are using?
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Sorry I mean HSDPA+
I'm using ookla and i can see my provider there.
This happen only in my city.

Power_Getter said:
Sorry I mean HSDPA+
I'm using ookla and i can see my provider there.
This happen only in my city.
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If it only happens in your city, then you should contact your carrier. Maybe your phone is using a different band or something.
But I severely doubt it is the phone's problem if two phones have it and it only happens in your city.

sauprankul said:
If it only happens in your city, then you should contact your carrier. Maybe your phone is using a different band or something.
But I severely doubt it is the phone's problem if two phones have it and it only happens in your city.
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I was trying to find where is the issue, it was working fine previously and got around 12mb. Now, my note reach this speed but not htc phones, this really confusing me.
I did almost everything even trying many rom's but no change.

Forget to mention I got almost 2mb for upload wil the download not going more than .35 mb !!!

See what frequencies the Note and One respectively are capable of on your carrier.
And it's really on H+, huh?
If so, I got nothing.

sauprankul said:
See what frequencies the Note and One respectively are capable of on your carrier.
And it's really on H+, huh?
If so, I got nothing.
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Yes both are running same frequencies, I know it's too complicated.
Thanks for your input.
It looks like all htc phones in my area
I will do one thing next, I will go back to 4.1.2

Power_Getter said:
Yes both are running same frequencies, I know it's too complicated.
Thanks for your input.
It looks like all htc phones in my area
I will do one thing next, I will go back to 4.1.2
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Sorry to bring back this thread, but this issue is really annoying.
I tested more phones from Moto, Asus, and HTC all these phone has this problem except Samsung, LG and iPhone

[Q] Moto X GSM Unlocked T-Mobile works outside the US?

Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?

aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?

moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)

TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though

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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.

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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs

joemon871 said:
Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.

TheSaw said:
3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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joemon871 said:
Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.

TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday

aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works

Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.